The GREATEST EVER Premier League CB is... | Winner Stays On with Carra and Henry! 🆚
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Jamie Carragher plays Winner Stays On with Thierry Henry to decide the greatest ever Premier League centre back and the greatest all time football manager.
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Love or hate Jamie, the guy is definitely a genuine football historian and has a lot of knowledge of the game outside of England.
His ball knowledge is unmatched. I'm not a Liverpool fan but I genuinely love hearing everything he has to say, you can clearly tell he's still completely dedicated to the game albiet in a different manner now.
A genuine football historian would never put Mourinho above Sacchi smh
@feelingspeed yes he would
@@feelingspeed he was right Jose is better
For me vidic better than van djk
ELITE ball knowledge from Carra
lad, hes just old. he remembers all these managers
He literally forgot that Juventus used to fix games under Capello reign lmao
Van dijk over John Terry? 🤔
@@Shano_7Yes
@@psychobread1252 negative ball knowledge 😂
Look at what Tony adams did at the division 1 era and he continued doing it in the prem he's in the top 5 cb for sure in england he always has to be in the conversation
passion merchant
@@Fahim321 captaining the same team for 3 decades
@@Fahim321ehhhh???
People living too much in nostalgia
@@HhHh-dn4cy I've watched tony adams play for arsenal in 96
Bro as an Arsenal fan...this is why i can never hate on this guy....His football knowledge is something else
Why would you hate on anyone just because you like arsenal? You're not a child.
No time mate @@_Highvalue_
@@_Highvalue_ another way to say what that commenter said is "Even though this guy goes after my club quite a lot and dismissed my manager immediately in this quiz, I can't hate on him, he knows his stuff."
That's why he mentioned the club he supports, did that really not even cross your mind as you wrote your reply?
The greatest ever premier league centre back is a toss up between harry maguire and mustafi tough one to call
😂
Nah Phil jones the only answer.
wow thanks for reminding me of mustafi gonna go cry now
That’s World Cup winner Mustafi to you sunshine. Absolute goat
Mustafi clear tho
Carragher is not only a very very smart pundit. He also has literally played with and against these players like Terry. So his opinion is of much higher value than others. Sure he has some bias towards VVD both being Liverpool sided but he was happy to be subjective in choosing Jaap Staam over his teammate Hyppia
Probably because Hyppia over Stam would’ve been indefensible. I hate Terry as a person but he’s clearly the best defender this league has seen.
i was not happy he chose jaap over sami
@@sodapop83Loved Hyppia, great servant to the club but Staam was better. Our team was very mediocre in that era and the only trophies we won were nicked by Owen's sheer pace on counterattack
That's the little give for the future take.
@@Edyoucation-fe1qq Disagree completely, Virgil Van Dijk has been a revelation, for nobody to dribble past him in 18 months when he first arrived to only one player dribbling past him this season, I'm sorry but you can't ignore things like that, it's never been seen before for a defender to be that successful at his trade. Apart from club bias people will only say Terry or Rio etc for their medal hauls, but teams win trophies, players contribute, and Van Dijk has contributed far more to his team than any other defender this league has ever seen.
Thank you Jamie Carragher you can spot Talent ❤❤❤❤
LOL … all those names are more than talent😂 but I LIKE 👍🏻 your comment
Pep is the GOAT. He changed the modern football and won a lot:
- Two trebles
- 3 Champions League
- He won in TOP leagues
If Fergie hadnt dropped an absolute howler and he had stayed longer it would be Stam, without question.
Marcello Lippi!?! Multiple league titles, Champions League and a World Cup!
Exactly lol.
u right. The only thing is international management is quite random. It depends mostly on the players you have at the time. That Italy team was insane - buffon, cannavaro, pirlo, del piero etc.
exactly, how could they leave him out?
Julian Alvarez must be the 2023 ballon d'Or winner as he won the treble (EPL, UCL, FA Cup) and World Cup using ur logic
@GOATMessuimere
So u r saying that Lippi's career was like the last season of Alvarez?
Jamie choosing van dijk as best prem cb ever… who seen that coming 😭
Cry
But he chose sir Alex and pep over klopp so…..
He’s right tho
@@Tjmufc765cos klopp was managing liverpool 30 years ago in 94...
@@watsappenin2865 rattled scouser
That manager one was really difficult to only pick one, so many iconic figures
What Sir Alex did with that Aberdeen team and to be the only team to beat Real Madrid in a European final is mental
It is not the only team it is the last team who beats Madrid in a European final.
Er, Liverpool beat Madrid the European Cup final in 1981.
Chelsea beat Madrid in uefa super cup and uefa cup winners cup final.
inter milan too
Benfica beat them in the 62 final, Inter Milan in the 64 final and Liverpool in the 81 final. What are you talking about?
Love this format, would definitely watch more of this
Carra knows ball. Probably the best knowledge out of the newer pundits. Some of the older ones are still unmatched, they remember goalscorers from FA cup semi finals 40 years ago.
Loved the respect Jamie gave to Fabio Capello, one of the greats of football management no question about it but he undressed himself putting that park the bus merchant Mourinho ahead of Arrigo Sacchi.
Great Knowledge. I think he got each and every perfectly.
Jamie has a great memory, and actually an acceptable argument, i would chose Pep as the best manager, but his argument about SAF was really good, winning with small club and top club really shows a true quality.
Carragher has insane Ball knowledge! 4:32
If Van Dijk had chosen City in 2017 instead of Liverpool, he’d have quite easily have won 5 PL in row at City and no one would have even questioned him being one of the best ever. He was a phenom for those 3 years until his ACL injury, a Rolls Royce who had everything.
Always find it bizarre that people try to compare him with Terry or Vidic, who were great penalty box defenders who were nothing like VvD in style.
And yet Terry won trophies over prime Arsenal and prime United and a CL winning Liverpool. Whats your argument? VvD had 1 good season. Thats all
Btw he didnt invent the Rolls Royce defending, Rio was doing it before
@@BannyV19 Terry was lucky he played under a defensive Mourinho when they were outspending everyone, he had him defending on his 18 yard box. He couldn’t play a high line & we all saw what happened when he did. Got turned for pace easily and struggled.
@@BannyV19 Rio was never a leader nor had the passing range. Plus had a blooper reel bigger than anyone. Another lucky to play under Ferguson.
@rossisempre86 lol then clearly youre only 10. Rio was known for his passing range and tekkers for a defender. If youre too young, go watch his video compilations or read his player profile
You could play spin the bottle for any of them defenders all top drawer .john terry was mmy favourite but i think vvd has took cb role to new heights
Sky Sports need to hire Thierry asap
"Please don't have me whacked, Carlo" -Jamie Carragher
"Pep has not won a championship with a small team", Yeah well all of us have been saying this for quite some time now.
neither has klopp tho n i'm a liverpool fan. Dortmund and Liverpool r not small teams. he got mainz promoted in 3rd place. still more impressive than winning the league with Barca with messi and xavi, Bayern and mega rich 115 charges fc tho, imo.
This is the same argument against Nessi and other great players and managers who started their careers right at the top and never built their reputations by being successful at smaller clubs. This is just a dumb argument as it implies being successful at a big is much easier, which is far from the case. Managers have a lot more room at smaller clubs than the two clubs where they have to deliver instant success. Also, it has been much tougher in the last twenty years or so for small clubs to succeed as football isn't as equal as it used to be. Days when a promoted could be champion in a couple of years are over. However, Leicester City did great in 2016. So, why is Ranieri not mentioned since he managed Leicester to the single greatest ac achievement we've seen in Premier League history? Or at the biggest shock. Arsenal's 2004 unbeaten season night is a greater achievement. Managers and players can only beat who is in front of them and not managing or playing for a small shouldn't make their achievement less. It's best to compare when they have equal or similar teams. It is like the old claim about Messi not being good since he never played at Stoke in the winter.
@jack28aug not a single team in the epl has had more financial backing than City have. News flash - not all big teams come with bank accounts balance. Bayern are rich and always buy the best players within the league annually. Lewandowski was Klopp, Neuer, That list is long. Klopp is an underdog manager. He's a firm believer in developing players who are underrated.
I dare say, klopp has never signed a world class player in their prime. Never ever.
Couldn't win the champion league with bayern
@@23293 so what? Winning the Champions League isn't an easy thing to do. Mourinho was at Real Madrid for the same number of years and he didn't win the Champions League either. Guardiola has been in four UCL finals and won three. Ancelotti has won one more and Guardiola is much younger than Ancelotti. The UCL is the hardest thing to win and there are a lot of factors that contribute to winning. Many great teams and managers don't win it or don't win it more than once.
Where's Micah? 😂
he's a right back?
@@kibipennelli as a pundit...
His chilling with Kate
Getting his hair sprayed on😂
Hope Vidic gets a mention. He’s been my personal favorite over the past 25 years
henry,s jacket 🔥
Henry’s underpants 😂
Van Dijk is the most talented CB the PL has ever had. I'm not sure if he's the best "defender" of them all, but he's the most athletic combined with defending, goalscoring, and a great passing range.
That penalty against kepa 😭
love to see some of the old lot play a high line
@@jnes624 90% of teams played a high line 15 years ago, 11 man behind the ball was never a thing 😂😂😂😂 now they do because they can’t defend
Imagine thinking Jose's Chelsea with played a high line@@kieranj1332
Villas boas came in and changed to a high line and John Terry looked like Dejan Lovren
Parking the bus has always been a thing
@@kieranj1332 90% of the team ? LOL, you must be 10 years old talke about 15 years ago, funny
I'm a united fan, but I actually think Pep's achievements are better than Sir Alex... The argument for Sir Alex and Aberdeen is an ok one... but after seeing so many great managers show up at Old Trafford, and they still suck? Actually shows what a great job Pep has done... he turned a good Barca side to a great side, he changed the way Bayern played, and city as well... he's managed some really big characters, and many many different players, yet he still managed to make all these players play the same way as he wanted... that's a very underrated skill.
I think it would be fair to say that the United inherited by Sir Alex were pretty average at the time, which adds to his achievements
Before ppl say carra is being bias, kompany and stam both said the same
Stam said it coz he is a Dutch player ..
Max player says Rio and Terry are the best ever … what your point ?
@@dibeshshrestha9277 stam played for United too tho. Kompany definitely doesn’t have any connection to Liverpool either. Maldini also said the same
@@dibeshshrestha9277 Or because Van Dijk is the best defender the league's ever seen. Why is this statement so hard to be a true one for you?
@@darthpepe2994 coz I can name many players who are actually better than van dijk.. he is just hyped and Carragher named him as best coz he is a Liverpool player .. he still plays so there is a recently bias aswll ..
u guys haven’t seen how good other players were .. and look at the strikers now .. they rubbish other than 2-3 ..
Appreciation for Del Bosque gained my like, good ball knowledge
Imagine if Van Dijk, Nemanja Vidic ever played together 😮💨with Kyle Walker and Ashley Cole maybe the greatest back four you could ever wish for!
John Terry’s Chelsea 04-05 season only conceded 15 goals all season.
In a team that was entirely built around not conceding goals. At an individual level Van Dijk is better.
@@aVerySmugeaf if we're talking an individual level, vidic is miles ahead of VVD and has won more than him
@@GameVaultTrailer Vidic got carried by Rio. Man was as likely to get sent off as he was to put in a 10/10. I always found it odd that people put him in the conversation when he wasn't even the best CB in his team. Ferdinand was clear, Van Dijk is better than Ferdinand and Vidic.
@@JaiAnt-ui7ip are you only able to judge a player if they're the only one on the pitch? Sounds like a hard life being that silly.
@@GameVaultTrailer😂😂
Van Dijk, Vidic and Terry might be the best 3
Stam clear of all 3
Stam is better than all of them.
Stam might be better, but because of his suspension, most of the pundits wont consider him among the greats unfortunately
Nice game👍👍👍👍👍👍👍 we need more
But but but Richards burst onto the scene!!!
Imagine picking a man with 1 league title and 4-5 good seasons over someone like Ferdinand, Terry or Adams, all with at least 4 titles and 10 top seasons.
His bias towards Liverpool and recency bias is a joke.
You’re forgetting how good van dijk was at Southampton
@@callumLB05 Yes, that was definitely at the level of a league winning side like Adams, Ferdinand and Terry did for nearly a decade
@@MrPeanut17lufc yes because you definitely didn’t just say that van dijk has only had 4-5 “good” seasons when in reality he’s been playing at a top level for nearly 10.
@@callumLB05 no he hasn't, don't be silly.. before joining Liverpool he was nowhere near the level of Terry, Adams or Ferdinand, he missed all of 20/21 season and was average at best, last season.
Football fans have a tendency to look at previous footballers especially english defenders and put them up as perfection but I watched all these players growing up and albeit excellent CB's but on a purely individual level VVD is just an all round better CB then all 3 in my opinion.
Is it Pep's fault he is so good that only world class teams want him? When you are the best, you will go to the best
dont agree with everything but knowledge of the game is respect worthy
Crazy to think that the first, first team Pep managed was Barceona with Messi, Xavi, Iniesta etc. No doubt he's a genius but he has managed huge clubs with huge transfer budgets. I'd love to see him leave City and go and get a Swindon or a Macclesfield promoted. Then I'd genuinely put him above the likes of Capello, Mourinho, Ancelotti, Sacchi, Ferguson, del Bosque etc. Until then, I think he's a great manager, amongst other greats
We are even on SAF🎉
Titi's laughter when JC23 tried answering Stam and Desially is everything awesome and half😂😅...
Nobody calls Thierry or Carra those names.
@@SteveAustin-zv1nnim here thinkin JC23 .. .whos that guy😂
@@SteveAustin-zv1nnpeople say Titi sometimes, JC23 on the other hand...
Abel Xavier... There was a Middlesbrough beast
Depends how you to measure 'greatest'. If its based on ability and transformative effect, the best ever CB is VVD.
i love this show i love jamie too much
I don’t get choosing Maurinho over Ancelloti!
First time seen he talks sense !
Carra really knows football
Not including Shanks or Paisley in the manager one was odd
True but it would be hard for them to truly rate them
Need a link to Thierrys tracksuit
Carra is a baller with his beautiful game knowledge. Loved and agreed with the manger breakdown but think there is some red bias re VVD being the best Pl defender ever
Finally SAF getting some respect for his earlier achievements.
Van Dijk is EASILY the greatest centre back.
Might not win as much as some others but on overall ability I think he is miles clear of everyone
Nice joke, you should try stand up comedy
True , his prime year is too short but none of the great defenders on this list got his defending skills.
I wish he this talent when he is 18 years old then nobody have doubt.
The players at Chelsea and at England that trained with John Terry all say that he was something else. Always better than everyone else.
They really don’t mention Bob Paisley anymore. I ain’t even a Liverpool fan but winning 1 less trophy than Sir Alex while managing 10-12 less years than sir Alex is NOT to be overlooked.
Those who played the game to a good standard+ can appreciate VVD more than the armchair fan. Football has evolved a lot in 10-20 years and Terry would be Ben Mee by today's standards, and didn't have the attributes to be more. It's why it's hard to compare eras.
That manager stays on was brilliant, and I would say SAF as well because what he achieved with a club like Aberdeen will likely never be seen again. Managing to beat Bayern Munich and Real Madrid on the way to winning a European Trophy was nothing short of a miracle.
fair play Cara. Final decison is spot on
I know I've been hating him for ages but my resoect for him. Increased after this
Carlo always gets disrespected, won league in England, Spain, France, Italy and Germany. Plus 4 champions leagues.
The graphic was showing Gareth SouthHate. 😅 What he said about the Sir Alex, that he won with a smaller Team and that is why he was chosing him over Guardiola. To be honest, then he should have chosen Klopp over Guardiola,too. Klopp always took a "smaller" team and won the maximum
Facts…you put Pep and Klopp’s Dortmund and Liverpool teams and he doesn’t win anything
Paul McGrath
Liverpool fan, but has to be Sir Alex over Pep. The longevity, consistency and without relying on 1/few superstars as well as doing it organically, has to be him. The older managers just handled way more things beyond the coaching. The likes of Sir Alex, Paisley, etc did everything at the club so not really much comparison. For modern day managers, I'd say probably Sir Alex, Ancelloti, Pep, Jose, Klopp, Wenger.
Curious how you're taking Klopp over Wenger?
Paisley should've been in this conversation
I'll be surprised if anyone prior to the 90s ever will be
I slightly, only barely, disagree on Sir Alex. He didn’t manage any European team but I believe he would be successful ANYWHERE
John Terry gets forgotten 🤣
Pep is an already established manager of course he's not gonna take a team like that same for SAF if he was already established he wouldn't have taken abderdeen. Pep got the edge bro took over Barca first team as an inexperienced top coach and looked at players like Deco, Dinho, zambrotta and Eto'o on his first interview and said they aren't apart of his plans then went on to let some of them go promoted youngsters and brought in unknowns and went on to win 6 trophies on his debut season
@@JaiAnt-ui7ip quite juvenile of you. You must've been watching football through a kitchen window.
@@Poopinthestreet-pajeeeet this isn't about who's more successful
Eto'o scored over 30 goals and scored in the CL final during Pep's first season, but agree about the rest.
@@scaredmuffin6371 not the point the point is Pep wasn't established and made that statement he sent off deco zambrotta and others Eto'o proved himself and asked to stay it was worth it. Many other manager wouldn't tell Eto'o, zambrotta, deco and Dinho they aren't apart of their plans my brother. They'd gladly take all those legends in the squad
@@JaiAnt-ui7ip as I said name the established manager that was in his prime and took over a team like Sunderland, Burnley, Wolvesburg, Stuttgart etc... only established managers do this are managers like Jose Mourinho and rafa benitez after they've failed at big clubs and nearing the ending of their managerial career their last "Hoorah"
We would never know what pep would have done with a small team thank to Thierry ohenry getting frank rijkard sacked in 2008
Tony Adams, Nemanja Vidic, John Terry, Ricardo Carvalho, Jaap Stam, etc
People saying his ball knowledge elite and yet he unquestionably put Van Dijk above Vidic 😯
Paul Mcgrath won PFA players player but doesn't get a mention!
I wonder why???????
Underrated
Thiago Silva belongs to the all time category for me as well even though is premier league time is short
Needed Shankly and Clough in this debate
I agree with Jamie about SAF. Pep hasn't had to motivate a small team to get a major trophy. He's always had top players.
Jamie’s views are always on point and very unbiased, this is why he’s one of the best. Like to hear some of the others and you know they’d have bias picks
Elite ball knowledge from r kid
What has VvD done that John Terry hasnt done?
Pep is never gonna take a team like that because he can’t do it without money
Why should he? He never had the need to. Thats the point you guys are missing. It is disappointed that Caragher doesn't see stupid it is ti judge players and magaers for which tram they didn't mabage or play for. The sane argument apolies to Messi. For me Guardiola is the Messi of football. They both started at the very top and never had to go for smalker clubs yi prive themselves. Guardiola has literally managed three teans only and hadnt bern manager as long as the other greats. It's bot easy to manage Barca, Bayern and Man City and sert and keep sethi g bew stabdards that proves difficult for any to follow. Guardiola has dibe practicalky what every great manager has dine and he has done ina very dhor period comparatively. And wrre not simply talking about great nunbers and trophies. I'm taking about how he can reievent positions and creates that insisy on emposibg their style on their oppnents. Great managers like Ferguson, Wenger abd Mourinho alk bended their knee to his Barca, the nost dominant team team I've ever. From a footballing oiint of view it is about enposing yourself on the oppnebts and no team has been able to do tgat better Guardiola Barca. He also indurectly assissted dominant Spanish team which was nade up mostly of Barca team. Guardikka us the goat and will go down as the goat. Even putting aside his incredube record, i willl akways defend Guardiola because he is a football lover he isnt anti football unlike Mourinho. I nucg prefer mabagers who are forward thibking and play in open abd attack minded way and who will try ti enoose that on their oppositiin. I dislike mabagers who are so defebsive ninded and oark the bus and are risk averse. Defending all the time and hanging gir dear life. That kills it for the neutrals.
2009-12 barca is the greatest team to ever play the game and they were mediocre when pep joined and the entire squad combined is less than 100m so shut ur mouth
@@aryanulhas9775but Barca was not any average team by any measure😂
Guardiola creates dynasties, gives them a style , and leaves his mark. That's worth more than just winning. Many clubs spend that much money but don't win like pep does.
For me its Terry /Liverpool fan
I also feel that Pep won't be able to win major trophies with clubs that can't spend big money or those that already have star players.
That's just a hypothetical. Much like the revisionism of Mourinho's UCL win with Porto, not forgetting the amount of players he had that won the Ballon d'Or/were in the World XI. It's world class players like Deco, Ricardo Carvalho etc.
Why would Pep also go to a smaller team? Messi and Ronaldo wouldn't go to a small team to "prove" themselves. The best are for the best.
I dont know why People always complain... This is his personal opinión, you all said that Carra is crazy or doesn't know anything about football... Carra was not the best defense, but he still played at first división in premier league. Have some respect... To me Ronaldinho is the best player ever when he was at his prime, and thats my opinión, and u guys can like any other player and is no problem.
Also, im pretty sure Carra knows, in general, more about football than any of you
well, i never saw that coming...
Ancelotti is the greatest manager to do it. hes won everywhere at the highest level for so many years
Van Dijk vs JT not even argument
The space shuttle
Yeah man uuuuuuuuuu
Please reply
Cara judges on what they have done in the premier league…. And he chooses VVD over Terry?????? Huh???? 5 premier league titles over VVD 1??
Good show
How could you not even mention Vidić...
The only one who won PL Player of the season twice.
If we judging on premier league we have someone who never won premier league judging based on premier league and he feels like some of those names can be less or equal in the term of defensive level.
Jose was never wrong guys.
As a man city fan , i totally agree with him picking Ferguson over Pep .
It must be Harry Magwaya the goat of CBs
He’s a Liverpool fan and legend ofc he’s going for shadow man can’t tackle VVD
Had dinner with Sacchi like he had a call with Kane??
Terry
Wow i almost thought he picked Van Dyk over Terry
I have so much respect for JC as a chelsea fan he is so unbiased unlike GN
Nonsense
@@MikeGSKOnly the vvd take was somewhat bad, which was still valid if you ask me, other than that he was spot on
VVD over Nemanja Vidić and John Terry is mental
John Terry is the best CB that's been in the league.
No chance, he looked good with Mourinhos Bus, Rio and VVD alot better.
@@WebleyCrusher c'mon that's nonsense and you know it. I'd put Rio and Virgil right behind him but John Terry was unreal on his day. Even with his lack of pace he made up for it with positioning and anticipation.
Sir Alex did it with Aberdeen in Scottish Premiership! Am I missing something. Did he win with Aberdeen in Europe?
Is this a joke?
Yes and he beat real Madrid in the final the only team to do it.