How Adidas Wrecked the Predator Line!
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I actually really liked the predator X with the blue uefa star design. Looked nice, and felt incredible to shoot with
I'm still wearing those predator powerswerve in matches. To me they are the best boots ever.
I am watching in 2004 and we still have the F50.
why did adidas kill all the predator, f50, nitrocharge and 11pro
bought 2 f50's and one 11pro from a sale of our nearby outlet store for 30 bucks each. I was so happy but also sad to see these boots almost thrown out like this.
LOL, I got a pair of f50s for $19 at an Adidas outlet in the States. I was wondering why they were so cheap at the time, until 2 months later the X and the Ace (ugly af imo) came out.
Like I said in the video, their boots weren't selling well at all.
This was a great video, man! It's funny because I don't think any of the newer Predators were bad, I owned the LZ 2s and they were great. I remember when the LZ 1 came out and people did not like that shoe at all, but there were some that were really excited about it because it wasn't even leather at that point. I think from 2012 to 2014 adidas only used Taurus leather in their new boots (even the adipures/11pros), and it was good but not premium like k-leather. However, I think you forgot to mention why adidas stopped using kangaroo leather in the first place. That was because there was controversy of using kangaroo leather. At the time between the Absolute and the X were launched, people were up in arms about the killing of kangaroos to make the leather, even today people are still complaining. David Beckham's Predator Absolutes did not feature k-leather, it was made with a microfiber synthetic. I guess adidas were under more pressure to ditch k-leather, probably because they had 2-3 top silos that feature k-leather and it looked bad. Now they only have the Copa (& the Copa 17.1), everything else is synthetic (with leather variations). So that's probably why they made the X with Taurus leather and never went back to k-leather, simply because of the backlash with animals rights and that jazz.
Joshua Khosrofian kool
Joshua Khosrofian I still got some LZ1 and LZ2 at home, colorways are awesome and got the lethal zone rubber which I loved
If anyone's looking to sell a pair of lz2 in a size 9 or 9.5 us hmu
Joshua Khosrofian I owned the lz2. Insole was too flat, toe box too small. No lock down. I don't like grippy upper. It just wasn't for me. Sold it after 2 months. But make no mistake, it was a beautiful boot.
I guess f*** those PETA s*ckers
I actually loved the Predator X (10th) , I had 3 pairs and I keep hassling Adidas Support to bring it back.
Supposed to be finishing an essay, but this is too tempting
The Predator x was my favorite model:(
Really love content like this. Keep it up Josh !
Great video! Boots history is an interesting subject in general, and given your knowledge and collection you are exactly the right person to talk about it. Hoping for more!
wow josh this storytime/history video was so cool i never became a boot entusiest until 2014 becsuse im only 15 now and its cool knowing what boots were really like back then and how people felt about them. Please do more videos like this
Do a video on the history of the Nike CTR or the death of it!
It never really died, it was just rebranded.
Soccer Reviews For You Thanks for all the great content!
Soccer Reviews For You rebranded to?
Joe W I believe they became the Magista line
I reckon the t90 would be a much better topic
I will always be a sucker for the SG Adi Predator X. One of the most comfortable boots I've ever laced up (wore them for rugby instead of football). If I could find 5 pairs in the black colorway, I could die a happy man. Cheers!
favourite boots were Always Adidas.Their boots were made of good quality leather that adapted to my feet nicely, high comfort level and nice ball feel.. Nike boots always felt too snug and stiff, no feel at all. Boots changed a lot since then.
WTF HAPPENED AT 1:51 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Laughed to the point of tears when you said "...dug the hole deeper and then buried it" 😂😂
1. adipower soleplate
2. k- leather
3. huge strike zone
would equal modern predator
Well I bought Adidas ace 17.1 leather and is close to old predators. Should try it!
+pradip1995hero that shoe is nothing like the Predators. It practically is a leather F50
pradip1995hero unfortunately that's just your preference but in all honesty that model isn't close to any of the classic predators if you say from the Mania to the Powerswerves. It is more or less just a copy of the latter leather f50 adizeros from late 2013 to early 2015
black and white preds with the swerve Adidas logo on the sides were my jam
you should do a video like this for the nike T90 line
Josh, I agree that the Predator family lost sight of its ancestry after X. The development of non-rubber elements and closer to bareskin material helped push the family out. The Predator X was last pair before I move to AdiZero and the Ace.
I can't for the snow to clear in Winnipeg and play outside on grass. Thanks for the videos and keep up the good work.
I don't think it has to do with the LZs at all. I know a lot of people (including myself) who were a big fan of the LZs. It has just to do with marketing that they didn't continue the Preds. Lightweight boots are the boots that most people want to buy at the moment. Because of that Nike also killed the T90 line. When Nike introduced the brand new Magista line, Adidas had to come up with something brand new too. If you ask me, the first generation Xs and Aces could have easily been named next generation "F50" and "Predator". They just renamed the boots to get the the most hype and attention. Nike did the same with their Magista line. They could have named it Maestri iv or Maestri DF but a new name fitted the "brand new technology knitted upper"-marketing stragety more and people were hyped about it even more!
I always found it funny when my teammates spent a lot of money every year on the premium versions of these shoes and bragged about all the amazing technology in them. I had an absolute blast with the tungsten powder thing. I mean, I don't want to completely throw all those concepts out of the window and some of those concepts might have been useful at the professional level where players do everything to get to peak performance and every detail matters, but as an amateur football player, you won't notice any difference. It doesn't matter if your shoe is a few gras lighter or heavier for example.
Just get a shoe that fits and feels comfortable and save your money.
I wore total 90s through school up until around 2000 when I got the predator precision, that started my love of Adidas not just football boots but sportswear in general. wore predators all the way up to the aweful predator TRX, now just wear copas on hard ground and Kings on soft ground. glad to see Adidas on top again with the new lines, everyone I play with seems to be wearing Adidas again. shame about the predators though, such a nice looking boot. even in the dodgy colourways
Josh IMO it seems like Adidas tried to market the boot more as a flashy control silo akin to the Nike CTR instead of competing with the Nike Tiempo line, where both could be the faces of modern leather options.
The adiPower Predator was the shit. The leather wasn't durable enough (I went through about 9 pair in the 4 years I could still find them), but the combination of the sturdy soleplate/heel counter, lightweight build and impeccable ball feel make it my favorite pair of boots (and the only ones I'd buy 3 years after the ended production).
Man I miss predators those where my go to football cleats its a shame they are no longer making them probably my favorite pair was when they released the ones for the World Cup 2006 had the gold/black ones
Do this for the T90!
I want the ctr360 back 😩😩
I miss the Predator and adiPure/11pro lines so much. Why Adidas decided to discontinue those, I will never understand. The F50 line also should have never been ended.
Thank God they still make the Copa Mundial and the rest of their heritage models.
The Predator LZ 1 is a classic for me because those were some of the first cleats I got. I remember having those and the Adipower TRX in the light blue and volt color way. That were the hay day of my soccer playing days.
I think that the shoe that also helped kill the predator was the rise of the CTR360. That shoe quickly became popular and overshadowed the T90 line, and I think adidas saw this trend and decided to follow along and turn the predators into a control shoe, and that deviation from the original predators wasn't a good choice in the long run and essentially killed the line. So I think that they were basically following the control boot trend and ended up doing it poorly and sacrificing the predators in the process.
Would say the CTR360 wasn't the only death of the predator but also the death of the so called power boots if you put marketing terms.
It would literally make my life if you gifted me one of those power swerves 😩😩
I really enjoyed this video, predator an T90 marked the end of an era.
I still got the 1st generation f50, I prefer them over pretty much any current boot
yeah like i mentioned, i think adidas back then during their calf skin leather beginnings, they were trying to use less kangaroo leather.
because many organizations were fighting against them and even beckham was a big factor that he was a voice against kangaroo leather use. hence him using synthetic preds
I don't really buy that as an excuse though. No other brand was phasing out kangaroo leather at the time, and Adidas never stopped production of the most popular kangaroo leather on the market, their own Copa Mundial. They made the Beckham models synthetic which is fine, but the other ones stayed leather. As far as I'm concerned, the quality took a dip because they thought they could get away with it.
Homero trevino That p.o.s news about fighting against K-leather use, it's like Trump giving you alternative facts.
Josh looks like a Canadian Marco Asensio
8:30 Is probably to this day the most comfortable boot/shoe/cleat whatever, that I've ever worn.
Kieran so so true man
the predator X was a great boot to play in!!
I think the launch of the adipure1 at the same time took a lot off the leather lovers away from the predator bc that model got less leather.
pretty interesting video josh, I agree, light shoes killed the preds
I feel like they should rerelease the predator but lighter while still maintaining the old look and feel.
That's the thing, the Predator isn't supposed to be thin and light. That's part of what makes it a Predator.
josh pl do some old jersey stuff for instance man united jersey from season 2008-09 real madrid 3rd kit from 2014-15 bayern kit from 2013-14
I actually think the lz 1 is one of the nicest looking boots. I remember i had like 3 or 4 pairs ( not due to durability just because I wanted more colours and mam was able to get them for discount)
Predator 9s came in so many good color ways , I remember Xavi wearing them for a long time and finally switching to the x , Adizeros were awesome! I got an ag pair , they are one of my favorite cleats ever , the adipowers looked ok but I never tried them. The X did not have awesome color ways either , I remember a David Beckham edition that was interesting but the rest were meh.
Great video! Really took me back to a great era of soccer going over the various editions.
I do agree that the predator X killed it! I never really agreed that the LZs killed it though since predators as well known as K-Leather boots, it is also very well known for its elements! It would have been nice if LZ came with real leather or something as similar to leather rather than pure synthetics. Great video!
I didn't get a chance to try the classic predators, so I really hope adidas brings back the preds
I just got a pair of Hypervenom Phantom 3s and I feel like it's Nike version of the Predator, especially in the Strike Night color way. Just look at them, it's a what a modern day Predator should look like, especially with the rate dependent foam.
I don't know about that comparison.
I don't really think that's anything to do with the predators more so to do with the t90s.
do more history videos like this!!
Those Champagne Predator Mania re-releasing this summer will make a killing. I don't get why they don't mass release them.
The Champagne predator mania is pretty much like a cheap variation if u ask me. No,K-Leather upper or the famous bladed soleplates of the original. But will make a killing for sure.
Sick video man , Will you ever bring back retro un boxing josh ??
Yes.
Thanks, informative video. In 2010 I was able to buy a predator X FG (black and red) for 15 dollars and i really liked it, i still have those and use sometimes.
I understand that New Balance is not the most popular brand, I also understand that most of your views come from reviewing top line boots. But I was wondering if you could review the New Balance Furon 2 Dispatch.
I had a pair of Predator Instincts and I really loved them they were my favourite boots ever
Great video Josh. I really don't like that trend going on now when all the major companies release the same style/color soccer cleats.
Hi Josh..!. I guess u should start a poll on every video asking people about stufd related to the video...it will help u i guess... :)
I really liked the predator x
Please please please make a retro review of the predator pulse or bring back the series
I agree with you, what made the Predator boots iconic was the tongue and the kangaroo leather. Those two should've have been the 2 elements that remained in all Predator boots. Every Predator after the PowerSwerve sucks ass
U should try to do one for each old adidas boots !!
I owned almost every model of the predator (from the champions league power swerve you showed, and more) Out of all of them, the adipower is the best boot ive ever owned. Once they got rid of the power bar, the line died. I also wasnt the biggest fan of the flap tongue, It was a needed upgrade. The launch colour ways were TERRIBLE, you weren't wrong there hahahah
daniel carpino Agreed Adipowers was the height of all Predators with modern revolution of no tongue, also sprint frame, being leather, and very light weight! I think also with likes of Beckham, Gerrard retiring...there was no face representative. I think Adidas has redeemed themselves with Adidas ace 17.1 leather version, which reminds me of previous predators! 😎
Hey Josh this is dope man, more of this content bro
i had the chance to play with most of the predator models and like josh said the last real predator was the powerswerve.. predator models always had a way of getting used to you instead if you getting used to them kind of thing. The x was a rougher shoe that took a while to break in and wasnt as confortable... the lz were just not for me.. maybe because i have wide feet and the k leather was amazingly soft and confy.. the adipower where not bad but they werent as durable
Adidas soccer died when they got rid of the adipures
Josh, there is going to be a new version of the Adidas predator soon. It'll be the mania remake.
They've done this before. Limited edition releases don't really count.
Soccer Reviews For You that's fair. I would just like to see a predator comeback within the next few years.
They are back
=As a marketing student, my understanding is, Adidas just want to change brand image.
Let's look back the revolution of 2015, are the 3 lines really revolutional? No. ace15.1 is basically same idea of predator.
Things changed when the ace15+ primeknit came out. Then the purecontrol. That's the real time point the revolution started.
So the publish of new 3 lines in 2015 was simply a change of brand image. Teenages find it's no more 20 years old predator but cool and new ace and X series. People buy that kind of stuff.
And if adidas didn't cut off the predator, ace15.1 would simply be predator gen 15. And be marketing as "non-stop grip" is the new rubberized elements and it performs even better. I guess that's how marketing works.
That's obvious though, as I explain in the video. What I'm saying is that one bad Predator and the successful launch of the F50 adizero resulted in a major shift in how their boots would be moving forward. The Powerswerve was a popular boot and the Predator X was not. That changed not necessarily because people all of a sudden decided that the Predator concept was no good, they just messed with the formula too much which caused Predator fans to look elsewhere for new boots. It's not always down to marketing. The product actually does matter as well.
Soccer Reviews For You Not doubt. I really was a predator fan but I do hate when gen 10 to 14 came out. But now, they just became some classic.
But if you ask me do I want old preds back? I will say no because the "light and thin" and knitted shoes really out perform those old preds now. I have some collections of old preds which is good enough.
Outperform isn't really accurate. What we had then and what we have now is not a case of better and worse, they're just different styles. You can absolutely prefer one over another, but I definitely wouldn't say that any of them outperform each other. If you wanted to wear Predator Manias from 2002 right now, they're still awesome boots. You would not be put at any kind of disadvantage.
I don't think outperform is at all the best word to use if you ask me..Know for the fact these are shoes not cars or some sort of performance enhancing equipments. It is pretty much personal preference and taste of any football boots wearers or enthusiasts. You're saying it "outperform" based on your preference. Even though the new generations of boots will outsell the old ones,however would happily welcome any old predators with open arms.
The LZ1 is a gorgeous boot imo
I could agree with you more josh, adidas dogged the grave Fri the predator line in 2010. and honestly powerswerves are the last true predators.
Josh,
Loved the video. Do you think the limited release of the Predator Mania Champagne that is to release in May is going to keep the history of the predator in mind? I read it was supposed to have a sprint frame on them, which to mean sounds like a good idea for a "modern day" predator model.
They've done remake versions of the Predator before. It's one thing for a boot to look like an older model, but if it's not the same materials and construction, it quite simply isn't the same.
I honestly think that adidas should bring back the predator and the F50 . They were the biggest know adidas cleats and to me the most comfortable. The predators bring back a lot of childhood memories and the f50 brings back the sensation of something light but at the same time really comfortable. I still now days prefer to buy F50 or predators than any new adidas boot
In my honest opinions,that was one of the most stupidest move from Adidas and it's something I feel adidas should never have done. The Ace line is pretty much the only line that I can see lasting a long time cuz of it's laceless system which is pretty gimmicky. The Messi line for me was and is still the most unnecessary line in the new roster of boots. In all honesty would still buy the f50 adizeros or the preds over the X or Ace line.
Brilliant video pal
Maybe if we start wearing our old predators and posting them on Twitter, Instagram, Faceboo, etc...I mean, letting know Adidas that people want a predator boot! And no more primeknit stuff or laceless..
many of the people including myself do at times post countless pictures of the older adidas models. I mean I'm sure adidas do know people including myself still loves the preds but these money grabbing shenanigans are pretty much thinking for the younger generations who would choose gimmicks like laceless purecontrol
And now they are coming back!
Patrik Mellin albeit being a renamed ace 18..
Last true Predator were the Adipowers! Leather are always the true form of predator. Also the iconic tongue line. Miss my Manias. #ChildhoodMemories 😭😭😭
they're bringing it back
Adidas is coming out with a limited edition predator mania remake this spring for around $350. No chance that I'll get a pair of them.
It's not the first time they've done a remake of an older Predator model. They're not quite the same thing though.
I personally loved playing in the LZ1 it was a great shoe
Hey Josh, do you think that Adidas had planned to move towards the two platform model with the Ace and X eventually or it was a reaction of poor reception from the new predator lines?
Adidas in general over the last couple of years seems to be very reactionary with their releases, which is a good and bad thing. It's always exciting for new stuff to release, but some of the stuff they've put out has definitely been questionable in my opinion.
you still haven't done a review on those blue precesions have you?
Adidas messed up big time getting rid of historical loved football lines Predator,F50,Adipure. Remember Adidas its never to late to change !
plz plz do a comparison between copa sl and copa 17.1
Could you please do a review on the hypervenom 3 proximo 2 please
I think that if the style of play is changing the shoes will always change like it did in the Predator line ;)
Style of play has nothing to do with the shoes people are wearing.
ouch
Is this video in preparation for the upcoming Champagne White Predator Mania Retro/rerelease?
And I'd love to see similar a video on Nike's decision to axe the T90 line for the hypervenom
Nope. Adidas has done tribute remakes of older Predator models in the past, this is nothing new. They're nothing even close to the originals.
Will you be getting the remakes of the Mania in for review? If not, will we see a retro review on any more Preds you haven't done before or a history of/evolution video of the Preds like you did with the Vapors? I really enjoy your videos of disccontinued models.
And do you think Brands like Adidas and Nike will ever do proper retro releases of soccer cleats like the way Nike does with Jordans?
What boot do you think is the most similar to the original copa mundial
Probably the Puma Top Di.
who is watching after the predator 18 has been released
If i'm really being honest I liked the Predator LZ
Look up adidas rugby they have a predator line with a striking area.
Hey Josh!
Do you prefer middle lacing or off centred lacing for fit?
(if off centred, Is it inwards like obra or outwards like hypervenom)
thanks.
I don't really have a strong preference if I'm honest. Central lacing tends to work the best based on my experiences, but there are off centred lacing system out there that work really well too.
do a play review of the hypervenom 3 techcraft
I have these adidas predadors that are white and gold. i do not know a lot about soccer shoes and I remember somebody gave me these. I believe they were david Beckham shoes and I want to know how much would these probably go for. Does anybody here know???
Josh! Is there any sock boot out there better than the Predator Instinct (pro)?
It's not a matter of better or worse, they're just different.
Hey josh. What do you think I should get? I have the hypervenoms phinish 2 right now and the durability is horrible for the level that I play. I wanted to ask you what should I get? The mercurial veloce or the ace 17.1? I think I can get the ace in old color ways for the price of the veloce.
It all depends on what type of fit and feel that you're looking for.
Soccer Reviews For You Right now those are what I am lucky for. I'm a cm and want a clean touch and don't like bulky cleats like the ace 15.1.
what is that red boot called behind you, to the left of the white and blue CTRs, and above the all yellow mercurial?
F50i Tunit.
I wore every pair of predators from my youth all the way up to the instincts I still have my all black instincts, I have not touched another pair of adidas boots since
can you do a nike total 90 too
Josh which one do u prefer?
Ace 17.3 Primemesh or Predator Instinct (pro version £165)
The Predator Instinct is so much better. It's not even close.
Soccer Reviews For You ok thank you!
I wish they would bring the predator back!!!
Robin Van Persie wears Adipower Predator for years because its successor's not using leather anymore. Then he changes to F50 with the leather variant coz it's still leather
He was wearing a shoe with an adiPower soleplate and stud pattern. The upper was fully custom.
anyone know where I can get a replacement / donor tounge or just the elastic strap