Jason Todd Breaks Damian Wayne
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Dick:I must Hold back against damian
Tim: I can't fight damian
Jason: *I've been waiting for this*
Would you blame Jason though
Kind remind me that part in Dark Sector game where the main character says that
Tim does want to fight Damian, The thing is that someone always holds him back
TIM WOULD SAY THAT?
(Recalls damian decapitated criminal and inserts a grenade in his mouth infront of tim first met)
Mmm nah TIM would be thinkin:
**I warn you.. if you fight me.. you lose.**
Like playing chess with tim, tim warns damian he lost the 2nd he tries.
I think we all have
We can see Jason Todd uses a crowbar to fight Damian, this is because he learned the hard way that it is a Boy Wonder's weakness
It’s their kryptonite
Oh shit
Nah💀 I'd rather have the Red Hood shoot me than use a crowbar on me.
LMFAO bro you ain't right
😱 Jason… is no better than Joker!
The best part of all of this is that Jason was drunk the whole time, as he was mourning the death of his buddy Arsenal. So he absolutely destroyed Damian while in terrible phisical conditions.
I mean I can imagine a drunk man can beat a 13 year old in a fight pretty easy
What I want to know is how the heck was he still stable even when he was drunk
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@@pandapruitt2542 Not when that thirteen year old is Damien Wayne. Please, it's a Batman character and you're talking as if the strongest would naturally always win.
@@snugdarkly I mean sure but we are talking someone that has more years of experience, more muscle mass, and has no want to hold back simply because he is drunk.....look it's just not a fair fight in anything logical and honestly I hate Damien but it is weird to me people like this scene
"Red Hood is nothing more than a glorified street fighter"
- Damian Wayne five minutes before getting fucking wrecked by the same glorified street fighter
isnt the entire bat family just glorified street fighters with gadgets though
@@osis2976 Well.... They do fight on the streets alot, lol, but they all also have had extensive training of Body, mind and soul before being sent out on the field, so they have some knowledge going forward.
Also it can vary from series to series and writers sadly.
It’s a stupider statement because Jason was trained by - and his skill acknowledged by - both of Damian’s parents
batman beating jason everytime lol, thats why batman brutly hurt jason maybe
@@arunr4407 so what? Batman also beat Damian little ass by your weird logic
Why the hell would Damian call Jason a glorified street fighter? The man was trained by Bruce himself. He might have been the roughest of the Robins, but c'mon.
Because he is arrogant he sees Jason as a street thug with a short fuse. Which Jason has a short fuse but he isn’t a common street thug
Not really he was only with Bruce a year then got killed Jason has trained the least with Batman out of everyone in the Batfamily even Cassandra and Stephanie trained longer with Bruce
@@killmonger5097 Jason was with Bruce longer than a year. Jason also trained with far more people than you might think from random teachers all over the world, the all caste, and the league of assassins.
@@killmonger5097 Natural talent, plus a year of training with Batman. You consider that to equate to a glorified street thug? I already said he was the roughest of them, and I don't just mean his attitude, but he held his own as Robin until he got killed off.
@@KombatW0mbat A shame that Damian is so cocky he can't assess his opponents properly. Given his size the ability to do that is key.
I LOVE when someone beats the crap out of Damian and show how he is not NEARLY as good as he thinks he is. Props to you Jason.
Except realistically Jason would get his ass beat seven times over by Damian
He's a child
@@ghosty8745 jason is holding back
@@ghosty8745 realistically, a child can’t do nothing against a grown ass man times stronger than said child. But logic and consistency are unknown terms inside DC.
@@jaydenjohnson6523 Jason is the worst Robin in terms of fighting skill, I'm glad this misconception that hes some sort of cool super skilled fighter barely exists these days
Damien: I was trained by the league!
Jason: And I'm drunk!
You don't have an excuse!
What's up Damian? How was your training? My name is Kevin
Jason: so was I brat
Demoman jason
Favorite panel: Jason holding a crowbar to Damian's face, asking nicely to not make him use it. And everyone in the bat family knows that if anyone has intimate knowledge of how to dismantle a person with a crowbar, it's Jason.
Bruh...😒
Jason Todd is the 2nd greatest combatant in the Bat family, second only to dick Grayson (it was actually proven in comic), the most lethal member of the bat family, and arguably the most experienced besides Bruce and Dick. Jason realistically could've ended this fight whenever he wanted, which he did, and honestly it speaks volumes to how much Dick Grayson influenced him. Fun fact, after Under the Red Hood the two original brothers took some time to just reconnect with humanity, as Jason needed the guidance of his brother to truly learn to be a man again after he died. He disconnected so heavily from people Dick took some time to show him what value people truly held beyond just 'beings that deserve protection.'
Jason coming back to the family isn't realistic really but working alongside them and being kind to them, especially Cassandra and Dick, is so perfect.
It is arguable that Jason is a better fighter, but then again who wins is up to the writer.
He is not the second best. Batman and Cassandra are both more skilled and in batman case powerful. Jason doesn't come close
@@SekyAbuelas than dick maybe but not the best in the entire family.
@@kordellswoffer1520 I didn't say most skilled, that's Cass and Dick. I said 2nd best combatant.
He holds no morals to not kill people, uses more gadgets than anyone short of the bat, is Superhuman due to the Lazarus pit (in most continuities but not all), and he has defeated Both Nightwing and the Bat on multiple occasions. The only reason I say Cass is better is due to her ability to predict your movements and intentions before you attack. That does make her the most dangerous combatant in the Batfamily.
@@tasonjodd5151 in most of those occasions batman wasn't fighting fully or Jason wasn't. Or both. The willingness to kill doesn't make him a better combatant, batman is still better from strength to speed to power to gadgets so even without skill and experience Jason is not even close. Him and dick are at best equal. Cassandra lacks a lot of skill feats besides beating her mother but if statements mean anything skill wise Jason out of his depth.
Damian is some of the most inconsistent characters ever. There are moments when he's likeable and the others is when he still act like an annoying spolit brat
Because he's a teenager who is constantly changing and growing
Sounds like most kids lol
Because DC editorial sucks, they don't update new writers on the character they are writing's previous character arcs.
Dick, Tim and Jason all became their own persons and each very different from each other. Its tough to write damian without making him like the others so people tend to keep him as the arrogant kid that he first was introduced as.
How can Damian be written without being like the others?
I personally feel like that if he cut ties with the bat family and actually completely stayed that way. Jason was his own thing until he slowly became on decent enough terms with the bat family again. Damian can go the same path but this time he actually stays on his own path and there is never a "redemption" arc or being on good terms with them to the point that he actually legit fights them and can be considered a villian in some stories.
It's because he's not designed to grow. He was designed because they needed a robin, but couldn't handle the thought of having to later create a fifth, sixth, who knows how many more. So, they took the best aspects of every other robin and removed the things used to balance said attributes like training on the pages, or character flaws, and applied them to batman's origin, put it to blend, and afterwards decided that the best way to preserve this smoothie in it's original state is to basically act like time doesn't exist, like he's always bring introduced, if isn't forced to change, they don't have to make him anything but a bland, uninspired smoothie. It won't ever taste better than others, but it won't be horrible to taste as there's nothing to taste, nothing to interact with. And sure, some have tried to remove him from the freezer and add spice, but it's surface level, easily scraped off and put back in the freezer till someone else tries. Hell, if it wasn't for the sass of 2 out of 3 robins, this would be way more apparent. That, and the fact they use him to make others change, with him simply reverting next week, while the others don't.
Damien's Holier than Thou attitude always rubbed me the wrong way. Jason Todd, yes, was an asshole but his anger came from an understandable place. Someone living on their own in crime ridden Gotham would have anger issues. And his rage became more pronounced when he took a dip in the Lazarus Pit. Jason isn't the Best Robin, but he was Bruce's Best Soldier; and Damien got to learn that the hard way.
No cap. I’ve never seen those two fight before but I always had a feeling Jason Todd would overwhelm Damien. And he did more than that in the video
"His anger came from an understandable place"
Damian is literally a Child Soldier, he was forced to kill thousands of people, to commit horrible war crimes, was abused incessantly growing up, threatened with death if he failed to live up to his Grandfather's expectations, and then became Robin, and all of this before his Age was on the double digits.
Not trying to say Jason had it easier, but comparing them is ridiculous.
Also, Damian was out of character on this issue just like in the rest of the Glass run, Damian only treats Jason badly because Jason tried to kill him when he was still starting out as Red Hood.
@@guardiansofthecontest3461
Jason took out Damian when his back was turned.
They had a fight before, it was a more direct Combat, and Damian won.
@@motivated2473 Sorry if I dismiss Damien, but his brattish attitude often hides any meaningful depth his character could have with a compelling background such as being the grandson of Ra's and the blood son of Bruce. It's like writers only think entitlement is the only emotion Damien has and little to nothing else.
And for the record, I liked Damien for the most part in the Animated Justice League War Universe. I just think his troubled childhood is hardly ever brought up, nor Talia's horrendous parenting or her mentioned rape of Bruce.
@@motivated2473 sounds like bs since dick should only be better than Jason by a bit Damien still has alot to learn he's surprising sure but Jason took on dick and batman at the same time even if he was running he got away and after that he unmasked batman just to show he could Jason is crafty and if both were fighting to the death I feel like Jason would beat Damien
I think I like Jason Todd the best out of all the “Boy Wonders”, he’s a little more grittier than the rest
Jason has all the skills but none of the fucks to give
I usually don't like gritty heroes because alot of them walk a fine line between gritty and edgy. Jason's usually cool though.
Although I still like Dick Grayson more.
@@garytaylor8193 because he ran out of fucks to give but returns them in either a fist, 9mm bullets or a crowbar
I like Jason because he's not a puss like bat
@@Lazyguy143 d
Dick Grayson got that ass tho
As someone who really hates Damian Wayne, this was fun to watch.
Damian the goat fr he was born into a fucked situation
I used to hate Damian but his character growth has been good. Hell even Batman had to learn over time.
@@astonprice-lockhart7261 I don't think Batman as ever been as arrogant as Damian. Even bats at least had a little proof to back himself up. But I'm not hating on ya for liking Damian, if he's gotten better than good that
@@OrtegaSauce Characters are designed with flaws of some sort. Like Batman vs Superman for example where they don't listen to each other due to stubbornness and fight for the sake of the readers enjoyment as opposed to having a well thought out conversation which would be boring but make more logical sense and save a lot of time and energy. Damian is not my favorite Robin but just like people we have the capacity for growth. You know what I mean?
@@astonprice-lockhart7261 yuh I gotchu. Like I said I wasn't tryna shit on you for liking him, there were brief points where I appreciated him, and those points were when he showed growth. They can make a great character outta him I feel like, it just might be a while before they make him an adult and not so crazy.
Being someone who’s actually a Damian fan, it is disappointing to see him think so little of Jason of all people. Though I suppose it’s not unexpected. I will say This is probably my favorite of the red hood looks besides Arkham night. If only he used guns with it more often.
Sadly that will never be. Jason says he’s stopped using guns
Don't worry, it's not really Damian, it's just that this was part of Glass run. The character was at his absolutely worse on this run, and also really out of character.
Damian cares about all of his family.
Damian does care for jason even hugged him in robin 2021 willamson run he was completely out of character in this run so was jason they were both character assassinated
@@animefangirl-ls5rt what?
@@StridingLuna try reading it again, but slowly
Red hood straight up like “bruh I’ve been dead and so have you”
Literally all the Batkids been deaf Grayson,Damien, and maybe tim
@@mangareader7474 Even Bruce
In Robin 2021 Issue 5 Damian literally says they have all gotten killed and Jason isnt special
@@mangareader7474 yeah Tim got killed by General zod after he came out of the phantom zone
@@sleepy8695 Well everyone has died if you're accounting for alternate universes
Ah yes demian use his PTSD against him
Im sure he will like to be reminded of what joker did to him... Oh yeah that will never backfire
That's the point tho. Hes trying to make jason mad, when you are mad you can easily get blinded by anger and make mistakes that others can capitalize on. Damian was trying to throw jason off by pissing him off so he could actually beat Jason. It just didn't work cause jason has gotten over that long ago
@@gageunruh3574 lets be honest, if jason really did get pissed by that he would have gave him a joker special lmfao one punch from todd in the chest, abdomin etc, would have left Damien incapacitated and lying on the ground struggling to breathe coming from that fact that Todd is like a superhuman from the lazarus pit and on top hes a natural born fighter
Damian is the weakest out of the four Robins. This is a fact. Tim folded him, Nightwing folded him in seconds, and Jason folded him. Sick of the narrative that Damian is already better than those three with no proof to back it up.
He’s also the only child in the family lol
He's probably the best combatant if you put them up against each other at the same age.
@Sara Moustamandi your a fan of damian because he matured in a apocalyptic alternative world? that’s some cheese
Future Damian is actually the most skilled
In Batman Beyond Bruce says that Damian has surpassed Bruce at his peak.
*Jason beating on Damian:* "Oh! So when I act like you do, people vote for me to die! But when you act like you do, you're the 'definitive Robin' that everyone loves! How's that fair, huh? How's that fair?!"
*Damian:* "This isn't about me, anymore. Is it?"
surprised to see you here!
Mustache man!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It’s you again
*Damian:* “wh-what alternate reality did you come from?!”
*Jason squints:* “new 52.”
*Damian:* well here’s a news flash, I’m the robin everybody hates now! The writers just keep pushing me like they don’t.”
Damian needed to be humbled, and Jason was the perfect member of the family to do it
The fact that people think Damien, a small child, could beat Jason, a full grown adult is crazy to me. Despite being trained by the best assasins in the world, it does not mean he can always beat the other Robins let alone grown adults. I do like damien but often his power is too much for a child to have.. so honestly it's refreshing to see his ass kicked. It just feels more real.
Not to mention Jason was trained by those same assassins too after the lazerus pit on top of Batman
Red Hood is literally one of the best killers in the world. Pretty crazy as you say
So desthstroke doesn't count ?
@@neos6694 who said anything about deathstroke
@@yurei2222 last time I checked deathstroke is an adult and Damian kicked the crap out of him
Small child or not, in comics, it's anyone's game
In another universe Edna mode is reading this to dash and saying that's the practical why of "no capes!"
Now that you mention edna, I think a really good crossover would be her having a friendly debate with Art Rosenbaum (from invincible) on redesigning some superhero costumes.
Jason is the best of Bruce's students because he learned from him, and then he took a completely different path using what he learns on his own.
Dude jason isn’t better than dick and they have settled that on many occasions
@@K3YDONTSTOP are we talking skill wise? Strength wise? Philosophy wise?
I'm talking character wise: he isn't just an inferior version of Bruce with Bruce's ideals; he's actually something new and different inside the Bat family, whether you're ok with his methods or not. To me, Nightwing has been a disappointment of a character even if DC wants to treat him as the best Robin, which he canonically is inside his universe.
I think that Jason was his greatest failure. I love Jason more than the other Robin's just out of preference but Jason is the one Bruce couldn't save. He's a direct effect of what not killing villains does, and it attacks Bruce's morals. I think that Dick is the other side of Jason. He followed Batman, learned his ways and after a certain point he went on to do his own thing. They're both great characters.
Expect Damian stupid fanboy to harass you for stating facts
He learned everything from him but mostly the negative, while dick focused on being happy
I get it. Nightwing would hold back. Tim Drake would hold back. But Jason will not, because sometimes some people DO need the whip, or worse.
if he didnt one hit would have put damien down lets be honest
Better yet grab the crowbar and humble the little shit nugget In the old tried and true joker ways
Jason is my favourite Robin, he has a balance killing the evil but not without a conscience. Dick while being the best Robin sharing Batman ideals, I can't help but argue with Batman's way of handling criminals. The problem is the collateral that happens everytime a villain put-down by batman breaks out and this is where Jason's way of crime-fighting is reasonable. He's not killing people, he's killing evil. He's killing the injustice.
To be fair that shows more of a flaw with the justice system than with Batman, Batman's goal is to deliver them to justice rather than deal it himself.
@@Awesomeisme7000 True but both Batman and RedHood are needed in my opinion for a society where the Justice system is not predicatable.
This seems more like a problem with the state, not executing them immediately after they're arrested than a batman problem
And the best part about Jason imo is he isn't willing to kill every single criminal just because, that is reserved for only the most depraved or those who get in his way
Jason has stated himself that he’s not out to kill every criminal. Just the ones beyond redemption and such
Jason always hold's back when fighting kids but you push him too far you're gonna regret it regardless if you're male,female,child,adult.
Just look at young damian here as an example
Jason’s hands are rated E for Everyone
"I've been dead before. So have you"
This reminds me of that DBZA scene where they're talking about how death carries absolutely no weight in stories like these anymore.
That’s a fact it’s just that the writers are good making the deaths emotional as if they wouldn’t come back
@Chainmaster34 Exactly why the only content i can enjoy from both series are parodies like DBZA or The Harley Quinn Show. It honestly doesn't matter who started it; they fail miserably at making me feel invested if they're not making fun of themselves.
@@shadowninja1059 I can't say every single comic book writer is bad, but what i can tell you is that having so many writers and so many IPs has lead to a complete mess in my eyes.
Dbza?
@@koleszgdanska7149 Dragon Ball Z Abridged, a comedic voice-over of DBZ scenes made by Team Four Star.
Very good stuff, but on a more sour note: extremely overrated and brought up by every DBZ fan, as they cannot shut up about it.
"Don't start a fight you can't finish"
I've been a fan of Jason Todd since I saw the Under the Red Hood adaptation,which is actually 10x better than the Comic it's based on and both are written by the same writer which is cool.
Ah yes, the Damian from the Teen Titans run that completely ignored years of his character progression in favor of writing him out of Robin, so that Tim can return to his comfort zone.
Going after Jason was completely logical in the situation, (i.e Jason mentored Damian and was the one who gave him information on the villains. The last instance almost caused the death of civilians and his entire Titans team. He has a legitimate reason to be pissed) but outright attacking him was foolish, then again the kid was always too much of a hothead and that always leads to his defeat. Adam Glass' Damian Wayne sucked
I hate when multiple writers work on a single character ignoring the past storyline
@@grandcanyon-fu9zt
That's pretty much comic's biggest flaws today, blame either popular or laziness but one thing for sure. It's not getting better.
@@Moonslight7658 it's better when a character is used for a one time.
They randomly made Tim gay.
They didn't do Tim any favors
@@Moonslight7658 That's pretty much always been comic's biggest flaws, writers get way too much liberty.
I like the idea that Damian is still behind the other Robin's. As more of a testament to them then as a downplay to Damian. I feel like even though Tim isn't known for his fighting but he would still probably beat Damian in a death match at the very least at like one HP
He’s beat Damian before
Tim drake ran damians fade really fuckin fast once. Actually had to save his life in that fight also
@sk more than likely Damian fought them to prove something
Yep, Tim would handle Damien, has.
Tim is considerably smarter than Damien and is regularly used to fighting people with more experience.
Jason handled him once, but the second and third time they fought he stood well to furious re-living jason (back when he first got revived -again- in the 2000s).
bruce even states Tim is smarter than he is, but doesn't have the confidence for it, or the drive.
but tim has helped tgrain damien and has seen him fight multiple times. So he already knows how he fights. 9/10 times Tim wins strongly. 1/10 times something bounces weirdly or knocks something form the celing on to him
i love that they showed what would happen if any of the other former robins stopped just trying to defend against Damian when he attacks them and decided they actually want to hurt him
Jason would always be the one who would not hold back because he recognises the weaknesses of Damian which is his pride and ego
Finally, I get to see these two interact in a comic. It was a pain the ass to search this online.
They have better moments.The bat family fighting is failure of writing.
They are brothers.
Yes all brothers fight but they dont seriously hurt each other in every issue
@@REALFIGURES-tj7fl yeah but it rare now
Nowadays only many of batman solo comic
Check out a channel called comicstorian
@@phantomfartz7688 Thanks
Red hood isn't wrong about the capes
It’s theorised that inside that box was one of two things
Jason’s soul
Or
His mothers ashes
what do you mean his soul?
@@karstenspencer6093 spooky lazuras pit shit
ima go with the second one
@@DanteDMC3 Foolishness Dante, foolishness.
@@potato_person power….it’s nothing but useless shit !
Jason is built like a one man army. He was trained by Batman, Lady Shiva, and Damian's mom, Talia. He took this training to heart, especially Talia's. Jason's revenge quest was possible because of Talia.
Damian: I'm the real son! And I am the best Robin!
Jason: And I am the Joker( *pulls out crowbar* )
What hurts more A *WHACK or B *THWACK?
@@Wisskeypayeroffares front hand? *WHACK* or back hand? *THWACK*
Yeah, why does Jason have a crowbar now?
@@alexdurain3753 prolly just picked it up on his way out lol
@@alexdurain3753 if he used a bat then he would be Batman...
I have never liked Damian and i always liked Jason. So this was satisfying to watch
Same
You like seeing a character you like brutalize a 13 year old?Pathetic bag of trash
This was a terrible moment for both characters
Word Damian mad annoying
tired of comics making little kids able to handle fully grown men like their nothing. even with training one good hit from an adult male and that kid will be laying on the floor. damian sucks to
@@kolat10 facts
He didn't break Damian, this is a classic example of an adult putting a child in their place.
As someone who unironically is a Damian Wayne fan I watched this knowing full well the little shit was bout to get humbled 😂 but you know still one of my favorites for some reason
I like Damian. Yes he is an insufferable pain in the ass that deserves to get his ass whooped plenty of times. But I mean, he was raised to be an assassin and was just passed off to his crime fighting dad so there is rarely a point in his life where anyone has had compassion for him. I’d probably have a chip on my shoulder too.
Lol... Right?
Of all the proteges Damian could've picked a fight with, he chooses the homicidal one with numerous kills on his hands and thinks little to nothing of the people he brutalizes.
For context: what was in that box thing that damien pulled out? It freaked out jason and isnt elaborated on at all and I dont wanna read 30 comics to find out
Never brought up again. It's supposed to be a plot point but DC forgot about it and never revealed it.
@@user-dx6zc2nf7h NOOOooooooooooooooo..... 😿
@@jbktpl1245 they think it’s his soul
Popular theory is that it's Catherine Todd's ashes.
@@richardjohnston7475 😯😯
Jason and Damien are probably the closest in training of batman’s pupils. They were both trained by Batman in many skills but both also have training in basically every way of killing (although the fact that Damien was trained specifically by one group of assassins maybe means he only knows their methods)
And Jason is much bigger and stronger, soooo yeah I’d say he’s at an advantage once he really goes all out even drunk as he was
That's what usually happens when a little Brother believes he can go Berserk on the big Brothers.
Jason had enough of his shit and went to work on him lol Definitely dig his design in this series of comics!
Yeah, he's actually a red hood.
Dick - The Strategist
Jason - The Fighter
Tim - The Detective
Damien - The Assassin
Teenage mutant ninja turtles
Leonard - leader/strategist
Raphael -muscle/fighter
Donatello -tue detective/tech guy
Michaelangelo- the baby brother (I can't think much else for Mikey that would connect him to Damien 🙂)
@@kikyoinuyashashipper4636 The Genius? Mikey is the strongest out of all the brothers despite being the weakest at first
@@zeltyzooms oh yeah ik Mikey is a genius, he learned how to not use only the most difficult weapon but also his brothers weapons as well and the last survivor through his family's sacrifices and his own strength, but I'm not doubting Mikey. Its more of Damien I'm doubting, not a big Damian fan he has his good points but also some iffy or meh ones that is difficult for me to put into words. If I had to choose from Bruce's bio kids I'm more of a Helena Wayne or the other Damien Wayne fan. Im having difficulty finding things to connect them all around but especially since the beginning. Mikey was always the fun loving type until around the end he got serious and more badass. But Damian has always been a 'serious' type since he was little maybe cracking about one or two small sarcastic jokes once in awhile in the movies but that's about it not really a fun loving Mikey type of guy. Only thing I can connect them with is mainly the end where they are older and both serious. And yeah Damien is intelligent yet I wouldn't call him a genius mainly comparing him to batman and the rest of the bat family anyway.
I like the kid, he’s a fun character. I think in time people will like him. Let’s not forget Jason was so disliked the fans voted for his death, it wasn’t the joker it was us. Damien will eventually be written as a redeemable character. Besides how cheese would it be if Damien had been written as an already developed character, there would be no where to go. They’d have to make Batman & Dick the villans
If I am not miss informed the poll was manipulated by someone on the inside and the actual results of the poll were for jason to survive which lead to the writers bringing him back
@@slain09 whaaaaaat?!!! That’s crazy!!! I had no idea
@@slain09 that’s bull everyone hated him the red hood fanatics today are now just trying to say that to justify their “hipster” type beliefs that they liked him before he was cool (ie mainstream)
@@huehue3592 no
@@huehue3592 they literally stated that the poll was rigged lmao. Why is it so hard to believe someone sent in multiple false votes when many people do the same thing today?
Jason Todd is no Nightwing, but he's still the goddamn Red Hood.
Imagine being a civilian in dc comics witnessesing what a 26 year old straight up giving the hands to a 12 year old 😂😂😭
I’m sure Jason has a reputation. Would you intervene with a vigilante who’s ready to pull out the glock and ice someone? Probably not.
Damien: "Red Hood is nothing more than a glorified street fighter."
Also Damien: Gets fucking destroyed by a Red Hood who clearly isn't even really trying.
What's up Damian? How was your training? My name is Kevin
And this is why Red hood is his #2 fav brother after Nightwing. He is the one they are willing to beat the hell out of him to keep safe.
I guess the *NO CAPES!* lesson really works well 🤣
Damian: doing some of the most awesome acrobatics ever
Jason: *F’ing throws himself around like a rock*
It’s ironic, because Jason was exactly what Damian wanted Batman to be
It’s ironic how Damian looks down on Jason almost but at the end of the day they are almost the same Robin and share literally almost the same experience both became killers both died and came back they have more in common than any of the other robins Damian looking down on Jason is like him looking down on himself it looked like Damian was winning but Jason was just chilling letting little dude get some licks in but took care of it pretty fast Jason is one of my favorite Batfamily member even when he became the red hood and a antihero Damian needs to start respecting the other batmembers skills because at the end of the day they were all taught by his dad and that makes them as dangerous or even more dangerous than Damian and they are all full grown adults if Damian was older I believe he would become the most skilled out of all of them just because he been doing this since birth so he has a leg up but at the end of the day these are all adults so Damian need to chill until he grows a little lol
Damian got his ass beat with a crowbar and then he threatened to explode at the end of it all. He really do be tryna steal Jason's thing
Love your name lol
Always loved Jason, my favorite member of the Bat Family. Red hood’s my favorite DC character.
This is like the time Peter griffin beat a karate black belt!
“I don’t care what color your belt is you are a child and I am stronger than you.”
To be fair a 16 year old black belt could probably beat your average adult
Damian may have had the most complete training out of all the robins but what he has in training he greatly lacks in experience something the rest of his brothers have the edge on him.
Experience outranks everything
Not to mention, Jason at this point is at his physical Prime and is jacked. Jason had the experience and pure physical prowess edge.
I could never understand how a boy with almost no muscle whatsoever could even stand to someone clearly buffed. There is no reasoning, his punches, kicks, everything he throws should not even phase the big dude. Also in videos where batman fights Damian, it's jsut laughable how they try to make it look like those sticks of hands would throw a punch that would hurt a man 10x his size. There is this scene where he jumps with his hand on Batman, like what the actual heck would a 10 pounds arm falling to you do. Not just Jason, but every robin, batman, everyone who is an adult and has trained should wipe the floor with this kid in a fist fight. He should use weapons, blades, tricks when he fights, and almost never attempt fair hand to hand.
Damian usually uses a staff in the comics. He used to use a sword, but stopped. Still, that gives a bit more reason as to how he could beat someone bigger than him.
Genetically modifed
@@KURENANI to do what? Mass is mass, weight is weight
Damian is The skinniest Robin (because of his age) and Jason is The bulkiest, he stood no chance here.
Coz it's a comicbook. Someone will be what the writers decide. If the decision was Jason losing a fight, then this would have a different ending.
I love how he pointed out the cape. All the other robins don't have one anymore now that they are solo (at least i know Jason and Dick don't have capes).
Damien has either never heard that saying “There’s always someone better than you.” or he’s just so arrogant he doesn’t believe in that. Either way that arrogance hold him back *sooo* much. I honestly think he could surpass all if not, most of the bat family if he just dropped that attitude, and realize he can *learn* from the people better than him instead of seeing them as a threat to his ego.
True Damien fashion, absolutely no respect and no foresight. He is so formidable and capable, but anger and rashness only ensures failure when problems arise. Or when you encounter another Robin who’s way more than a glorified street fighter. Never underestimate your opponent.
D: Glorified street fighter!
J: Arent we on a street?
D: 😶
Teen Titans Rebirth is Damian's version of Ric Grayson Arc for Dick, One Year Later for Cass, Bendis's Superman for Jon, and Heroes in Crisis for Wally. The type of that the fans tried to completely forget the existence of the comic book run or arc.
This 5:05 scene is controversial because an Arabian/Chinese like Damian (he also reads Quran) has a suicide bomb vest.
Where did Chinese come from? Arabia makes sense cause of Talia's background but Bruce is an American he has never canonically been any other race.
@@liberleo1384 Chinese (for Talia) came from Melisandre (Chinese/Arabian) and Ra's Al Ghul (Chinese/Arabian). Ra's Chinese came from his father The Sensei.
@@rayjohnnercacao3703 ah ok thx for answering, I didn't know that Talia's side of the family had any Chinese in it
He literally picked the worst BatFam member to pick a fight with. He chose the one guy who wouldn't hold back. When Cassie first came around, she beat a lot of the BatFam members in a fight (Though, the argument could be made that they were caught off guard). But when she got to Jason, he was the only one who won his fight against her
Which comic was this
Jason Todd isn't the smartest, most tactical, forward thinking or respected of the Bat family. What he is however is the only one of them that came out a soldier and when he fights, he fights to the bone. You take a mix between Batman and The Punisher and what you get is someone who ends fights.
@@jda7667 Its when shes first introduced, Redhood almost guts her but Dick stops him. All the CC fans cry she was just testing him but I don't see how you test someone by almost getting disemboweled by a dude in a mask and a 3rd party save you. As a character her fan's head canon is worse than batman's and partially due to terrible writing.
@@bmagada ahhh I see
In this case he did hold back, he was actually drunk in this fight
This proves that not all people who share some similar traits can get along easily
I feel like Damian would be a good successor to Batman given time to grow up and mature but I feel like his personality is something that will never really change and that's why he'll probably end up a villain instead. When people talk about which of the robins is best suited to take on the mantle of Batman everyone wants to go straight to who is the strongest or most skilled but you gotta consider the characters personalities and what drives them to wanna fight crime and save people because I feel that is the most important quality in a hero not how powerful or great they are but what kinda person they are. In my opinion the best person to take on the mantle based purely on personality I'd have to say Batgirl would make the most sense, she's well trained and experienced, her father is chef of police and she has good relations with all of the members of the bat family, she's hard wired to wanna help and save people, and I feel like she's the lease likely to mess up being Batman. The only problem is she's not a man. So I'd say the second most qualified to be Batman (excluding Terry McGinnis) is Dick but you know dick doesn't wanna be Batman so the third most qualified is tim with his tech and detective skills and his level headed attitude. I'd say Jason is the third most qualified but he doesn't wanna be Batman, honestly I don't think any of the robins wanna be Batman but Jason really doesn't wanna be Batman. The fifth most qualified is of course Damian
No one wants or is asking for Jason to be Batman he doesn’t need to not want it lol
" but I feel like his personality is something that will never really change"
He has gotten a character development, a rarity in DC Comics. Damian nowadays is almost like a different character from his 2016 and 2006 iterations. He is now completely against killing, he chooses a path that is neither Bruce or Ra's path, he wants to help people more, and has amassed a lot of friends.
Cassandra Cain is now currently the only Batfamily member who wants the Batman mantle. All the Robins (now Damian included) don't want that mantle, now opting to choose their own path.
In a comic Jason actually does become batman and even Dick realized Jason was a better batman than Bruce ever was in that comic
@@ScaryBlueLobster where does Dick say that which comic is it or are you just talking and Jason never became Batman he was playing dress up
@@killmonger5097 well when batman is presumed dead jason todd takes up the spot for him the comic is called battle for the cowl #1
Nightwing : The roided super nice oldest brother who will turn a blind eye to every thing
Redhood: the absolute menace of middle brother who will fold you without a needed reason.
Dude got trained by the all castle in the new 52 and beat rhas al ghul, dude can summon swords that feed off the energy of his soul. Jason is possibly the most slept on in the bat family.
Mf is pretty much the Doomslayer of the Bat family lmfao
Dick: I just out maneuvered a child and won.
Tim: I just out smarted a child and won.
Jason: I just fought a child and won.
Damian: I just had the worst day of my life.
Finally hopefully some de-escalation in Damien‘s inflated ego possibly (probably not).
Damien has proven he is not a Robin with wearing a suicide vest to a brawl & not what Gotham or the DC world needs.
This comic run was a character assassination. Damian no longer acts like this, and didn’t before this run in recent years.
Imagine using this comic run which completely assassinated him as a character he didn't act like this before this run nor does he act like this after it
You love the dark knight right? So his biggest struggle is to raise a child who wants to do the 1 thing je doesn't do. Yeah he is a spoiled little snot. If you don't see how cool that is. Then stop reading man. Walk away. Fatherhood is the biggest test of life. Are you a jerk or just a kid that doesn't get life yet?
Always appreciate some Jason love!
I wanna see red hood training Damian in young justice.
Really glad that Jason put Damian in his place. And I hope he remembers it, too.
Jason really followed Edna Modes' "No capes" lol
Damian was trained to kill from the day he was born, but Red Hood can be considered more ruthless than him.
Edna : NO CAPES !
Jason : all right
*Jason ditch the cape*
Batman : first Dick, now Jason 😠
I mean, you think people would grab Batman's cape more.
@@atomic747 Surely it must be made of anti-grab material named Batcotton
@@atomic747 His actually can detach if need be, but yeah a few have done that.
I mean we’ve seen him actually use his cape for a practical reason. It’s a glider.
People forget post new 52. We got way more about Jasons training. Not only did he havw Bruce's training he had league of Shadows training and training from a secrer society of immortala named the all cast.
Kinda love the poetic justice of Jason using a crowbar
i may actually be a Damian fan but Jason will always be my number 1 so this was fun to watch
5:24 Jason was just so sad! He didn't want this. He saw himself in Damian, that's why he reached out to him in the first place. They're just... too much alike.
havent watched the video yet but i know damian just got HUMBLED
In other words, Jason got sick of little bro's crap and made it very clear Damien crossed a line.
I do love how the batfamily does tend to act like family, even the more estranged members like Todd. Your older siblings having enough and putting their foot down is TERRIFYING, even more so than your parents doing so, precisely because it's not normally their job. You KNOW you done goofed if your usually tolerant or uninvolved sibling gets involved.
Seeing Damian getting beaten really puts a smile on my face
“Damian. Don’t do this.”
Right there, that’s where Damian lost.
If or when Damian begins to control his arrogance he just might be able to adapt to the situation at hand, instead of having a single plan in his mind that he "knows" will work.
All of the other Robins have learned to adapt and change their plan of attack on the fly, Damian stubbornly tries to drive his point home while the others can read him like a book.
That being said, I think once they have had their run of Damian the "kid" in the comics, a mature Damian would be 'Batman level' scary to fight.
Love this moment, but stories like this just go to show one of the downsides of having multiple authors give different takes on the same character - Inconsistency. Some writers are just bad writers that lucked into this industry, and it shows especially when a bad author tries to work with a character that's been previously handled by a good one.
Was Damien portrayed well before this cause I only ever had memory of him being an arrogant and entitled brat?
@@liberleo1384 I honestly love his portrayal in the Injustice comic series. He's an arrogant, entitled brat there, but the plot doesn't fold around him like it does in some comics. Or in the New 52 era DC animated stuff. Movies like Batman vs Robin and Teen Titans vs Justice League were so cringe.
@@alexwyckoff8962
Fair enough, personally his arrogance and actions towards other people especially the robins has always thrown me off his character but I guess to it's more tolerable when he isn't the main focus.
It doesn't help he is generally considered the "heir" to the cowl because of him being related to Bruce by blood and how not only certain writers but some fans devalue the other robins relationship with batman so as to completely remove other candidates like Cass when it just feels unearned and forced.
@@liberleo1384 I completely agree. In my view, the successor to the cowl by default should be Dick or Tim. But I think a lot of the writers who get their hands on Damien love the edgy component of his character, and so they way overhype him.
@@alexwyckoff8962
yeah I agree out of the robins I would say dick and Tim are the best candidates as well.
Though if we were to go outside that I would say Cassandra/orphan should be the protector of Gotham.
This is due to her adhering to batman's philosophy and methods while also legitimately accepting them as her own. Not only that but she also actually wanting to inherit the position due to her respect of batman and his methods rather then obligation or proving a point like the other robins.
You're right about the writers just wanting to write Damien as a cringy edgelord more then anything else that's probably why he fails to move past the original interpretation of him which means he never progresses past being a brat.
With Red Hood being one of my favorites & Damian being my most hated, THIS was extremely satisfying.
Damien getting humbled never fails to satisfy me😂
Damien’s like: bro Jason’s the one big brother i wished I never had
As someone who first heard of Damian via the animated movies, this was pretty cathartic to watch, not gonna lie.
Seeing Damian get the snot beat out of him will never not be satisfying.
Jason really just said "You're playing with the big boys now."
Master Roshi: going into battle with the sole purpose of *THINKING* your going to win is *ARROGANT* and *ARROGANCE IS FOR FOOLS NOT WARRIORS!!!*
Gotta love sibling fights
Damien deserved everbit of this ass whooping 😂
i love seeing the older robins teaching this young punk some manners.
the music really kicks ass, much like when Jason kicked Damian's
4:56 I feel this sums him up perfectly
If only Damian truly knew Jason's trauma.
the messed up part is people think hes talking about the other when he says for him when he means bruce