WHAT ARE THE BEST BLUE CARDS IN cEDH?

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  • čas přidán 5. 09. 2024

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  • @skylarthoma5353
    @skylarthoma5353 Před 5 měsíci +118

    The scrolling menu is so satisfying. Well done Cam! Do it for the next 3 colors too!

  • @charlottehgomez
    @charlottehgomez Před 5 měsíci +89

    you guys introducing decimals into your rating system... magnificent.
    (can't wait for tyler to see it)

  • @jacob510
    @jacob510 Před 5 měsíci +85

    Blue eyes toon dragon is on theme for best blue cards

    • @Hashbrown1682
      @Hashbrown1682 Před 5 měsíci +5

      That would be a great alter for Gilded drake

  • @mimiklureaegis9906
    @mimiklureaegis9906 Před 5 měsíci +29

    It’s the “Let’s talk about Thassa’s Oracle. Oh.” For me.
    😂😂😂

  • @dredge_into_delve2439
    @dredge_into_delve2439 Před 5 měsíci +18

    Can't recall a time where there were so many cards to talk about on your 'best cards of X color' episodes (and having more cards left over too). Think it's because blue has a lot of redundant cards that are very playable (and interacting on the stack is always good). Lovely to see these discussions as they are very insightful and entertaining. Top tier content!

  • @malikileefred6011
    @malikileefred6011 Před 5 měsíci +10

    I love how there’s two displaced kittens at 50:04

  • @Digmeonformore
    @Digmeonformore Před 5 měsíci +31

    in recent weeks i found hullbreaker horror to be absolutely insane. it's so hard to stop and opens up so many winning lines in midrange pods with bouncing bowmasters and clones. for me currently a 4,675/5 🤣

    • @Kirkland_Signature
      @Kirkland_Signature Před 5 měsíci +3

      Been having a similar experience with Hullbreaker Horror, I was in a game a few weeks ago where a Talion player was miles ahead of everyone else and we’d been playing for like 2.5hr. They had the ring out along with HH and I was like dude just bounce the ring, draw your deck and play Thassa’s Oracle, GG lol

    • @damo9961
      @damo9961 Před 5 měsíci +2

      Yeah card is a staple. Sure it's 7 mana but the format is so grindy right now that you always get there to play it's basically a one card wincon

    • @syndicate5357
      @syndicate5357 Před 5 měsíci +1

      HBH is just a win

  • @METROIDFAN258
    @METROIDFAN258 Před 5 měsíci +2

    Love the scrolling list at the bottom. Makes it so much easier to follow along 👌🏻

  • @Hysteria19
    @Hysteria19 Před 5 měsíci +11

    imposter mech has the upside of being way harder to kill if you copy an opponents bowmasters because they can't ping it since its not a creature

  • @jonnybirch2268
    @jonnybirch2268 Před 5 měsíci +6

    I LOVE Mystic Remora, don’t get me wrong. But when considering its power level, I’m always reminded of a tournament I played in.
    I was playing Tivit going second. Breya played a turn one fish. We didn’t feed it at all, yet Breya kept it around for FOUR TURNS. Finally couldn’t pay for it and sacced it…
    …I won the very next turn 😂

  • @jericknm
    @jericknm Před 5 měsíci +3

    Ok now I need a podcast about that binder

  • @Bouillestfu
    @Bouillestfu Před 5 měsíci +3

    1:30 now I want a Jace-Son planeswalker for that Horror set!

  • @axismt
    @axismt Před 5 měsíci +3

    Bowmaster killed Timetwister. Really hard to use it if you have no way to interact with an opponent's Bowmaster. I'm convinced that Bowmaster is on par with Hullbreacher and needs banning consideration.

  • @bingus2464
    @bingus2464 Před 5 měsíci +3

    Comparing this to the white episode really emphasizes how strong blue is. We also missed polymorph

  • @THE_T.o.P
    @THE_T.o.P Před 5 měsíci +2

    Channel is popping off, deservedly!

  • @MrPhantomPC
    @MrPhantomPC Před 5 měsíci +13

    I’m at the point where Lorien Revealed goes in every blue deck. What an absolute unit of a card; the sketchy no land keeps with mana crypt become god hands with Lorien Revealed, and with the shift of the meta going midrange it’s a card you don’t hate drawing late in the game, and you don’t mind pitching it to force of will/negation or Gemstone Cavern even because it’s not a combo piece.

    • @autopsipath
      @autopsipath Před 5 měsíci

      Im running 4 of it in every 60 card deck I play in the formats it's legal and it's amazing, you can cut some lands for it and feel no punishment and have some colour fixing and by turn 5 or 6 if the way is clear to hard cast it's refiling my hand at the perfect time and the cmc isn't an issue. Pitches to force of negation and subtlety of course.

  • @jades-stars
    @jades-stars Před 4 měsíci

    In the clones section I think an honorable mention should be dance of many, it offers the flexibility of phantasmal image with the downsides of flesh duplicate, however it has a big upside in that it makes a token copy on etb, and for some strategies that does double etb effects, or actively doubles tokens it will get the edge above flesh duplicate. Also being an enchantment can make it a little awkward sometimes, but it rarely comes up unless discussing kinnan or kenrith specifically.

  • @unnoticed67
    @unnoticed67 Před 5 měsíci +1

    I like that the cards at the bottom of the screen now scroll, that's fantastic :) Also, MORE DECIMALS.

  • @alexmarshall4854
    @alexmarshall4854 Před 5 měsíci +1

    the formatting of these videos are fantastic

  • @ayejay7024
    @ayejay7024 Před 5 měsíci

    would love to see this where instead of doing an overlay of ther standings, you guys have like a whiteboard with the cards in order on there so you can both stop forgetting where you have things. also ranking them 0-5, putting them in tiers is probably more accurate. love the video!

  • @travismanzo3035
    @travismanzo3035 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Do an episode ranking best non-blue cedh decks???

  • @egoish6762
    @egoish6762 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Surprised metamorph is lower than phimage, copying the ring seems much better and 3 mana dockside is still a dockside.
    Glad Dylan mentioned snapback over snap, i think it's all round better.

  • @PolskiSuzeren
    @PolskiSuzeren Před 5 měsíci +4

    Imposter mech being a vehicle (and not a creature) is a big upside when it's in play, having a non-creature bowmaster or talion is super nice, but being much easier to counter and not being able to force multiply your own gameplan is a problem.

  • @MageSkeleton
    @MageSkeleton Před 5 měsíci +1

    would be good to also mention how much the card is if you wanted the lowest priced version "today."

  • @patjanes8532
    @patjanes8532 Před 5 měsíci +1

    I love the moving card ratings!

  • @ritchie1457
    @ritchie1457 Před 4 měsíci

    Laboratory Maniac and Jace Wielder of Mysteries technically would still be win conditions if Thassa’s Oracle didnt exist but I feel like they would be lower in the list because of their mana costs

  • @BabelTriumphant
    @BabelTriumphant Před 5 měsíci +1

    I like Gilded Drake over Duplicate because UU is pretty steep especially in 3+ color decks

  • @Nullking_
    @Nullking_ Před 5 měsíci

    I play Tivit, so 2 clones and gilded drake are amazing. I just won a game in seat 1 and seat 2 had malcolm / kediss, they played T1 malcolm and I gilded draked it T2 helping me to the win.

  • @ValinShadow
    @ValinShadow Před 5 měsíci

    awesome video and analysis. the only thing I think I disagree with is Intuition at #9 4.94444 because while it is a powerful card to be sure, it's not an auto include in every blue deck (as evidence Dylan doesn't run it in Atraxa)
    I think Flusterstorm is more likely a 4.85 and Intuition is a 4.8 on your scale.
    awesome video again though. love your content!

  • @jennaeasley2277
    @jennaeasley2277 Před 5 měsíci

    57:43 I’d watch you guys talk about cards for 6 days

  • @Maverickstyg
    @Maverickstyg Před 5 měsíci

    Never change, guys. The level of confusion cleared by making this a 1-10 scale is definitively NOT outweighed by the humor of your 1-5 scale 😂

  • @Just_C0rey13
    @Just_C0rey13 Před 5 měsíci +4

    I think Cyc Rift deserves to be higher. It's such a devastating spell IF you can overload it.

    • @BabelTriumphant
      @BabelTriumphant Před 5 měsíci +1

      I cannot fathom a blue deck that wouldn’t play it. Great for 2, backbreaking for 7, plays nice with Ad Naus.

    • @armandomedina2778
      @armandomedina2778 Před 5 měsíci

      ​@BabelTriumphant yuriko doesn't have the mana to cast and control/tempo builds would really not like their stax pieces bounced

  • @bigschaeff1
    @bigschaeff1 Před 5 měsíci

    Very surprised that cons Sphinx and hullbreaker horror weren’t addressed

  • @kingsquibblebort
    @kingsquibblebort Před 5 měsíci +1

    Love the Gay To Win shirt Cam’s wearing!

    • @peruru84
      @peruru84 Před 5 měsíci

      I've been dying to buy it but I cant find it in the store!

  • @inklorde2853
    @inklorde2853 Před 5 měsíci

    Fluster storm saved me a lot may I add and also mana drain u get the mana. Back

  • @gammarayrjs
    @gammarayrjs Před 5 měsíci

    Malachai, Children of the Corn; Green White
    I had to dig for an answer

  • @mightywizard422
    @mightywizard422 Před 5 měsíci

    Toon Blue Eyes shirt goes hard AF

  • @liquidxan6698
    @liquidxan6698 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Are the gay to win shirts always available?

  • @masonowens3107
    @masonowens3107 Před 5 měsíci

    We could get killer clowns in the next dnd set if they do spell jammer

  • @sayntfuu
    @sayntfuu Před 4 měsíci

    Are we proxying the Time Twister?

  • @jontaefant9104
    @jontaefant9104 Před 5 měsíci

    I wonder where commandeer would go on the list

  • @level11biggerbadderbosses31
    @level11biggerbadderbosses31 Před 5 měsíci

    I feel like the Alien from The Thing would be izzet prob

  • @TripsAhoy
    @TripsAhoy Před 5 měsíci

    Another perfect list! ❤❤❤

    • @B1gLupu
      @B1gLupu Před 3 měsíci

      Mana Drain missing is a bit strange, but it's a niche card nowdays for sure.

  • @friendo6257
    @friendo6257 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Best mtg content

  • @09Dragonite
    @09Dragonite Před 5 měsíci

    You know, if the format of EDH as a whole were ever *actually* balanced, I think there is an absurdly strong argument for banning Rhystic Study.
    I know that's a really unpopular opinion, but like, it HAS to be the best spell in cEDH that isn't directly a win condition. And the fact that it's color-locked and has NO downside whatsoever for who casts it is honestly just format warping. Like, I don't know if you noticed or not, but THE MOMENT that you realized that your forgot about Rhystic Study as a card was literally *list shifting*. I think the nearest equivalent to it in any color is *maybe* Demonic Tutor (a card that you will NEVER cut from ANY black deck list).
    I would've said Necropotence, but even THAT card comes with a VERY heavy downside by comparison. And as messed up as it is, even Griselbrand comes with *some* downside, which is WAY more than Rhystic most of the time *and* those spells are almost never used as *passive* value cards - they're explosive value or *active* cards. Where Rhystic is a Set and Forget spell that can begin *in play* on turn 1. I mean, you're welcome to mulligan for Dark Ritual and Necro as much as you want, but you're *STILL* killing yourself to net that card advantage.
    Idk, I'm just saying that the bullshit argument for why Primeval Titan and Sylvan Primordial are banned cards is simultaneously an argument for why Rhystic Study probably also ought to be a banned card at the bare minimum.

  • @thehitchhikingchef
    @thehitchhikingchef Před 5 měsíci

    I think that because of the spells having thier own categories and the list being so black and white(this card better than this card) we would benefit from tier lists instead of top 10style lists

  • @GatesOfElysia
    @GatesOfElysia Před 5 měsíci

    Sorry bit late but a horror villain who's nonblack could be Carrie's mom; religious freak is very mono white

  • @schrodingersowl8774
    @schrodingersowl8774 Před 5 měsíci +1

    A 9000 dollar power 9 card not even making the top 20 really goes to show how absurd blue is as a colour compared to the other colours

  • @JellemaDilemma
    @JellemaDilemma Před 5 měsíci

    I’m surprised Tsakashima wasn’t in the clone pile.

  • @thomasschoaf6067
    @thomasschoaf6067 Před 5 měsíci

    Cam (currently talking about a card and rating it a five) : “Let’s talk about the … OH wait we forgot (insert blue card here)”
    Dylan: “Oh yeah that one’s real good”
    Cam: “Where does this even go!?!”

    • @thomasschoaf6067
      @thomasschoaf6067 Před 5 měsíci

      For real, I hope you see this Cam and Dylan, I love your channel and you bring my such joy listening to you guys every week. Dylan I’m super stoked you’re full time now! You guys are the absolute best and I hope we meet someday!

  • @changminsong
    @changminsong Před 5 měsíci

    When I saw this I was like how in the holy hell are they actually gonna keep this at 10 cards. There is just no way.

  • @TheFu3lman
    @TheFu3lman Před 5 měsíci

    Displacer Kitten is on your list twice. There's irony there.

  • @stormtrooperjeepjk
    @stormtrooperjeepjk Před 5 měsíci

    I think you missed trickbind..... I've been seeing this a lot now..... It hits thassa and even the rad counters for a turn

  • @noahpetrasko6777
    @noahpetrasko6777 Před 5 měsíci

    Flesh duplicate is much better with things like displacer kitten and hullbreaker horror for the non-kenrith decks

  • @GonzoEDH
    @GonzoEDH Před 5 měsíci +1

    How do I get the gay to win shirt?

  • @DannysPlaylist224
    @DannysPlaylist224 Před 5 měsíci

    There are so many blue cars XDXDXD great video

  • @damo9961
    @damo9961 Před 5 měsíci

    I want a Ron Jeremy card to helm a deck

  • @Houdini1138
    @Houdini1138 Před 5 měsíci

    Cam 100% said Clown. I heard clown. Lol😂

  • @andytheindividual3862
    @andytheindividual3862 Před 5 měsíci

    black next maybe? D:

  • @RodrigoCML7
    @RodrigoCML7 Před 5 měsíci

    Cam, we already got a horror clown set. It’s called unfinity.

  • @Olivia-ev9hk
    @Olivia-ev9hk Před 5 měsíci

    Leprechaun is a mono green villain.

  • @B1gLupu
    @B1gLupu Před 5 měsíci

    "It's barely a 4.9, it's like a 4.94, it rounds down"
    The math ain't mathing. Wouldnt it be 4.86 then?

  • @user-iq5vv6nv6o
    @user-iq5vv6nv6o Před 5 měsíci

    American Horror Story universes beyond?

  • @bigschaeff1
    @bigschaeff1 Před 5 měsíci

    Blue has so many good cards

  • @syndicate5357
    @syndicate5357 Před 5 měsíci

    Id rather see a brainstorm or flusterstorm over a mystical tutor these days

  • @papaflowers5726
    @papaflowers5726 Před 5 měsíci

    Children of the corn can arguably be white. The kid from sleepaway camp is probably just red. Freddy could be blue?

  • @Delarissa
    @Delarissa Před 5 měsíci

    Imposter Mech copying Bowmaster has been very very nice for me.

  • @vidgapbaker7588
    @vidgapbaker7588 Před 5 měsíci

    this list is just 3-5 . there is now need for 1 and 2

  • @andyontaneda996
    @andyontaneda996 Před 5 měsíci

    Swan song a 5 loooooooool about fluster 🤣

  • @toctheyounger
    @toctheyounger Před 5 měsíci

    Non black 80s horror is very clearly the Thing, which is obviously simic.

  • @claudeducharme007
    @claudeducharme007 Před 5 měsíci

    What’s a good commander to start cedh with? Something simple for my simple mind

  • @jordancaldwell2208
    @jordancaldwell2208 Před 5 měsíci

    So pretty much every card on here is basically Time Walk.

  • @heirkaiba
    @heirkaiba Před 5 měsíci

    I think that Dragon with Blue-Eyes is the best clue card. Also I hate Yugi Muto

  • @CptnHowdy2475
    @CptnHowdy2475 Před 5 měsíci

    Yo killer clowns would be lit

  • @andrewkelley6039
    @andrewkelley6039 Před 5 měsíci

    MYSTIKAL ZOOTER

  • @peruru84
    @peruru84 Před 5 měsíci

    Pls sell us the shirt guys 😭

  • @eric.ingram
    @eric.ingram Před 5 měsíci

    I thought I won games because of my food chain XD

  • @nerdystore
    @nerdystore Před 5 měsíci

    He definitely said clowns.

  • @TeaHauss
    @TeaHauss Před 5 měsíci

    I have a lier deck that could easily be cedh, so having this list tells me cards I shouldn't play, appreciate it :P

  • @dasfabelwesen
    @dasfabelwesen Před 5 měsíci

    A counterspell needs to help me win, not help me to not loose. Force of negation and mindbreak trap are working only if you can present a win at instant speed. If you put countespells in your deck with the intention to counter rhystic studies, you will loose.

  • @raedien
    @raedien Před 5 měsíci

    Mystic Remora:
    U - Suspend 4
    Win the Game.

  • @DrumCorpsLink
    @DrumCorpsLink Před 5 měsíci +1

    How can thassa's oracle be #1? A 5/5 means it goes in every deck running blue but Oracle doesn't. Oracle on its own does nothing, and you need cards from a totally different color for it to be as useful as it is. Rhystic, Mystic, and force go in every single deck running blue, but thassa's doesn't go in a deck unless it runs BLACK.

  • @Dubhats
    @Dubhats Před 5 měsíci

    Honestly Brain freeze is more useful than Oracle as an individual card. I have used Brain freeze against my opponents once they've made infinite storm with like a Food Chain line or like some other infinite loop and just won the game AFTER they thought they had won the game.

  • @Rizso1
    @Rizso1 Před 5 měsíci

    5.0 cards i would say is cards always want to see in start hand so would put thoracle and brainfreeze at a 4,9

  • @aklepatzky
    @aklepatzky Před 5 měsíci

    5:00: the 3 mana sol ring, the 3 mana mana crypt. overrated

  • @cookingisfire
    @cookingisfire Před 5 měsíci

    How did Otawara not make the bounce list?

    • @kraakelol
      @kraakelol Před 5 měsíci +3

      It’s a land, so will go in the land video. I assume😊

  • @jordancaldwell2208
    @jordancaldwell2208 Před 5 měsíci

    Definitely heard clowns

  • @jerzyhansen4199
    @jerzyhansen4199 Před 5 měsíci

    Yo! Don’t be afraid to show Terese Nielsen‘s art on cards!! She is a legend and her art will always be one of the best magic has had to offer. Her art is not a reflection of her personal beliefs. It’s OK to showcase her cards.

  • @syndicate5357
    @syndicate5357 Před 5 měsíci

    Putting twister that low is sacrilegious... also no windfall?
    Those are for the aggro mulls not a tactic really

  • @alessandrodellanno948
    @alessandrodellanno948 Před 5 měsíci

    Wotc hasn't printed good blue cards/cool blue legendary creatures in a while. Blue reminds me of when you say something is good because it used to be good way before

  • @kenlikescarbs
    @kenlikescarbs Před 5 měsíci +1

    engorgesness

  • @aaronupward
    @aaronupward Před 5 měsíci

    Wonder if there are enough good red cards for a video ?😂

  • @andrewkelley6039
    @andrewkelley6039 Před 5 měsíci

    Green being the grand finale of this series is great because its the supreme colour and played by only the best magic players...like me.

  • @2fuffstraining47
    @2fuffstraining47 Před 5 měsíci

    I'm really surprised Intuition got rated so highly. I get it, but if we're talking about 1-card wincons I think I rate HBH higher in the decks that want these types of cards.

  • @youngguunz
    @youngguunz Před 5 měsíci

    I disagree that oracle is better than rhystic and fish. some blue decks won't play oracle while they all want the draw pieces. Not having hullbreaker on the list is sinful.

  • @FullFatMayo1
    @FullFatMayo1 Před 5 měsíci

    Definitely not top 10 but Impostor Mech being an Orcish Bowmasters that doesn’t die to Orcish Bowmasters in an Orcish Bowmasters meta is huge.

  • @danielchang3213
    @danielchang3213 Před 5 měsíci

    Resculpt is one of the best blue cards in cedh

  • @damiantey4593
    @damiantey4593 Před 5 měsíci

    Hot take: Xenomorphs are gruul.

  • @brucewaters1617
    @brucewaters1617 Před 5 měsíci

    Steal enchantment left off

  • @j2c695
    @j2c695 Před 5 měsíci

    Cam are you gay? I’m telling your girlfriend 🤣