Ep. 329: Avoiding Situationships | Whoreible Decisions w/ Mandii B & Weezy
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- čas přidán 29. 07. 2023
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You can definitely be an advocate and still be frustrated .. frustration is a natural emotion and this is new to all of us
Agreed
Agree
I really like seeing mandi and weezy having respectful and understanding communication on things they dont agree on ie the pronouns conundrum. Happy to see you getting along and having good convo it makes the pod tons better IMO :)
Yep creates a way better show
Thanks y’all!! ❤❤❤❤
BIG Agree 🥰😇
I love the fresh no eye makeup on mandi face she’s so pretty, both are.
Agreed , Mandi is a beauty
This was very raw and honest, happy to see mandi evolving and just being super genuine
Shout out to Mandi for clearly explaining her frustrations. Weezy tried to conflate the conversation. Why can’t someone be frustrated. That doesn’t mean resistance or non acceptance. They have feelings and so do we. Accepting your lifestyle doesn’t automatically change my vocabulary in two seconds of meeting you. We need to stop tip toeing around certain topics. How are we suppose to silence our emotions?
Because Mandi was centering herself in a situation that is not about her. Her feelings are true and valid but also very insensitive to those who actually identify that way. That’s all Wheezy was pointing out. Two things can be true at once.
54:56 😂🎉😂🎉😂 hey little one lmfao
I agree with Mandi regarding being an advocate and keeping it real. We can stand up for people and disagree with some parts of their lives.
That’s not what’s she said but okay.
You CAN be an advocate and frustrated.
I've used she&he for 30 years and it takes a lil bit more energy. They/them is a different conjugation that you have to insert into sentences that usually use she/he.
I see a lot of people attaching their sentiments regarding the Trans community to Mandy’s frustrations. It’s important to distinguish that Mandy’s frustration comes from being a GENUINE actor attempting to get it right. Not frustrated at their existence or society adopting proper verbiage.
Was going to say the same thing.
This needs to be pinned
Exactly thank you.
I love Mandi's vulnerability at the end of the episode when discussing her heartbreak, such growth!
Thank you for the episode guys!
you guys get more gorgeous every episode😍
I’m literally crying at Mandi right now talking about how to speak to that 7 year old!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣 “hey little one”. I LOVE you girl 👊🏽. I definitely needed that laugh.
Mandi has grown so much, and I love how vulnerable she is at the end of the show when talking about her heartbreak.
I appreciate the episode, folks 💜.
Nothing is more frustrating than Weezy not understanding that it’s frustrating to not easily offend people because a group of people decided to change the definition some super fundamental words of the English language…
Girl!! She’s so disingenuous for the sake of not offending. Thank you Mandi for SPEAKING REAL. Can always count on her for that.
how is me thinking being frustrated with someone’s gender is not a REAL response? Idgaf how many episodes you listen to, what other shit you say about me - but my opinion isn’t disingenuous. You don’t fuckin know me. If what mandii said is real to you than that’s great, but it’s her real emotion and I gave mine. I am VERY aware that most of y’all wont agree with me but if I was so worried about offending people I wouldn’t have a podcast. I am and have always been a lot more sensitive to lgbtq+ issues on this show and this literally doesn’t stray from my normal attitude. You DONT know me. Remember that the next time you someone is more “real” just because you agree with them.
@@WHOREibleDecisions Never claimed to know you. Don’t care to know you. You were being COMPLETELY dismissive of Mandi’s real emotions of being frustrated. Its human nature to be frustrated when you trying something new and coming up short. It’s a learning curve for everyone. It’s unfair to ask for grace on one side and not give it to the other side, especially to those who are genuinely trying.
@@WHOREibleDecisionsit’s not just in this instance but you virtue signal quite often, or pick the side that is “politically correct”. For example in one of your podcasts you guys were discussing racism in corporate America. Mandi mentioned that Asians tend to have more advantage over black people in the corporate environment. Instead of letting Mandi explain why she thinks that and what her experiences were, you immediately became defensive, started saying that Asians face racism too. That’s an example of you sugar coating things, hence why people say Mandi is more real. You don’t have to agree with the other opinion but you can try and understand why they came to that conclusion
Most y’all slow anyway don’t know there their and they’re so wouldn’t expect you to know they them boo
you’re allowed to be frustrated Mandi. you used the right word it’s not like you were being disrespectful about it
I definitely felt Mandii on this one. Love the raw conversations because we won’t always share the same feelings.
When you guys are good, this pod can't be touched. This pod works when there is no shade or beef. Yall just vibe. Keep this energy bro.
This was definitely one of the best solo episodes. Thanks ladies!!
I get where Mandy was coming from on They/Them.. the bottom line is we use those words as plural but to now have to use it as singular replacing he/she is difficult. I mean even with a trans friend i had, it took a long time for me to go from knowing him as a her and all my memories of him was when he was a she lol so I had to transition my speech as he transitioned who he was. But now its easy since he actually looks and sounds more masculine.
I’m obsessed with mandii….. everything about her just makes me so happy lmao. thank you for your authentic self always & just you being you. wow, thank you so much. i can’t wait until you find the man that is deserving of you.
Such a great episode! Love you ladies ❤ & yes I agree y’all get Finer each & every episode sheeshh 🫶🏽🥰😍
Love the growth in the both of you. I hope you two manifest the relationship you desire. Love y’all, I really enjoyed this episode!
I wish the end of the convo was longer because it was so good!!! I relate so much and ya’ll were dropping some gems!!!
Wow!!!!!!!!!! Def needed to hear the dating part of this episode. Right on time! Love y’all !!!
The pronoun convo is certainly polarizing. Think I understand what Weezy is trying to communicate. But it might be the effect of rose-colored glasses that many of us try to navigate relationships with. Think of the dynamic between close loved ones... its very possible to fully love and support them, and simultaneously be frustrated at the effort it takes to love them well. Hell, I feel this with my own child, and I dare someone to say I'm not her biggest advocate. Maybe its the difference between sympathy and empathy? Or momentary exhaustion. Idk. The human condition is nuanced. And sometimes, that nuance feels uncomfortable or even hurtful. Two things can still be true. Love the convo! Both of your hearts seem pure in this regardless of how it comes out.
Thiss was an excellent pod !! Mandii’s vulnerability speaking on dating and her last relationship was refreshing 🙌🏾
Gosh, I can relate to Mandi so much. Although it's been years, I can almost feel the pain all over again just listening to her tell her story.
I so loved the dating part of the episode and how real you ladies were soo much appreciated. 👏🏾👏🏾
Mandi I applaud you this episode
Love you!
Can’t wait to see y’all in Seattle!🥰
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Love how Mandi was just honest and Weezy was virtue signalling.
Thank you Mandi for the vulnerability boo🙏🏾❤️ You got this, the right man is out there for both of y'all. He/she gone show up and show out for ya!!!
I completely understand Mandy’s frustration and reason for it. I feel you!
"And it gets wide" 😅😂🤣🤣 I flipping sweat these women ❤
Love her 😂😂😂
Omg!! 10:24 not the shoutout I wanted!! Lmfao!! I promise I’m not bad!😂😂😂 i had soooo much fun up there tho!! Haha
I love this😢😢😢
So honest
Facts Mandy. If I have to tiptoe over my words just to have a conversation with you then I’d rather just not talk to u. I’m a gay woman and NONE of my friends speak using those “internet” words and I’m not gonna stress myself out dealing with those sensitive ass people.
It's generally women who are being insulted, compromised and erased at every turn.
The growth from Mandy is so beautiful ❤ I love that for you !!
Just started watching y’all. This intro is crazy😂😂
What?!?? Phoenix getting love!!! Lemme go buy my tickets! And it’s right before my birthday🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
I was at the Cincinnati show, i’m definitely going to be at the one in ATL! We need more black representation in Cincy and you showing up was just the beginning!!
I absolutely love Whorible!!! I cannot wait to see you guys in NYC. I missed the meet and greet tickets but I will definitely be volunteering for games. 😘😘
I went to the first show, and one it was soo good. And two Mandy looked soo good!! Can’t wait for y’all to come to Boston because it’s going to be epic!
Just got my ticket! Cant wait 🎉🎉🎉
We can’t wait to see you
And bonus hole?? I WISH TF I would go to the doc and they address my good pun pun as a BONUS HOLE!
Y’all should really get TS Madison on the show.
I can understand where Mandi is coming from but frustration definitely centers yourself in this conversation when it’s about how someone else wants to be identified. Language changes all the time and sometimes it takes a while for us to catch up so I get it. But to say one is frustrated about pronouns, which is a part of speech that has always existed, can be insensitive.
And the bonus hole convo, Mandi literally read the full article that states it would be used for non binary or trans people, and it’s recommended to speak to those people to see what term they would prefer. It’s quite literally a list of words a doctor could use if their patient isn’t comfortable with vagina. This isn’t a war or change to cis women for gods sake. It’s more inclusive language but obviously a cis woman won’t get her vagina called a bonus hole by their doctor. Y’all being weird and transphobic in the comments for no ass reason you need to talk less and listen more.
Well said 👏🏾
I’m ready, mad i have to wait for November lol
Same Mandii, I can’t have conversations with kids either. My bf son is 11. What do I say besides “You hungry, what you want to eat?” Or “How was school” … 😑
Do you feel like you're his step mom and have to build a relationship with him or you just barely see him?
When I tell you I LIVE for Weezy and her big rings
Mandii 😂 I heard myself out loud talking bout "Hi little kid" 😂
Sooooloooooo! Our favorite❣️😘😘
I agree with Mandi about being an advocate and being frustrated! I don't agree with the term bonus whole for bio women!
This is my first time agreeing with Mandii on the “they/their” conversation. When we look at English it tells us that they/their means more than one so even I’ve had a hard time adjusting to this. Weezy trying to use the N word as it being the same is a bad comparison because the N word has always been negative. Even black ppl use it as one sometimes where you trying to say someone new pronouns is hard if you’ve found out about it 3 years ago and don’t have a lot of ppl around you who use them.
I just got my ticket for Orlando 🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽
The end … mandi
Yessss Mandi
I get how Mandi is frustrated with the pronoun thing. I have never met anyone yet with those pronouns and I know I’ll be like Mandi but not out disrespect
I met a "they"... i just don't talk to them because where the other ones at
@@keeshreewithbte you ain’t shit lmfaooooo
@@keeshreewithbte😂
Mandi… yes! 👏🏾👏🏾
Cute outfits !!
How’s everything Going ladies?
Nicely, asked
Its okay to mess up as an ally/advocate. Honestly as someone who identifies as she/they (nonbinary), MOST folks who use they/them pronouns aren't out here frustrated at people who generally trying and fucking up. Ive known about additonal pronouns for over a decade and STILL mess up every now and then. It seems like people who get frustrated that they mess up are placing pressure on themselves to be perfect. Are there nonbinary folks on social media who are upset? Yes, probably because most people are actively resistant to trying to learn and expand their understanding. NO ONE is upset at people genuinely trying. Don't let social media cloud your assumptions, especially if most of y'all haven't actually met or had a conversation with a nonbinary person.
I wonder how many years we are away from getting an app like Feeld but for people like Mandii who want a serious relationship with no kids and marriage. People who want commitment in a "non-traditional" sense. These apps exist for fun/play but there are many women like Mandii out there who are a niche "market" and need to find likeminded people.
Phx az show, I’ll be there 🎉
Sorry Weezy but no. Lol you cannot invalidate Mandi’s feelings “in defense” of “them’s” feelings.
I’m with Mandi on this one, I have a cousin who is transitioning and for 20 something years I’ve used the pronoun she. Now I’m working on always using her or they them. I mess up sometimes, sometimes I go she I mean he. So it is frustrating not at my cousin but because I want to get it right and because my brain is not use to it. I think it’s fair to give grace on both sides. He always says it’s okay I know you are trying and I appreciate that.
Mandi, baby, it’s all about perspective. Your ex was not the “best you can get”, nor should you resent the growth that you experienced from that relationship. A person can end up not being for you, but the things you learned and ways you changed are for YOU.
Comparison can distort our value of our experiences. Maybe he wasn’t your person, but the selflessness and nourishment you learned through that relationship will help you in future ones.
Keep growing and loving and always remember - the amount of pain you can endure does NOT equal how valuable you are. You don’t have to eat ish, nor do you have to abandon or resent the growth you learned through former pain. Just don’t do it that way again. 😘
4:21 I definitely don’t recall y’all asking for kinksters in Detroit! Don’t come for us! 😅❤
Someone from Alabama here! We sell sex toys here BUT they have to be sold as novelty toys/ educational toys.
So in Alabama, if you see and N&T store, that's a sex store.
I get what you are saying Mandii
I swear, it’s so interesting that trans men always get ignored in these conversations. The bonus hole thing reminds of the birthing person discussions - the birthing person isn’t for everyone, but for people that are pregnant that don’t identify as women and don’t want to be referred as such.
It’s not rocket science cuz the percentage of trans people in the world isn’t even high. With that being said, I don’t think Mandi being frustrated is an issue cuz her frustration is from not wanting to offend someone…which is different from someone being frustrated because they don’t gaf.
RIP Kevin Samuels. Always wanted to see him on a podcast like this or lip service. Keep going ladies💪🏿
No see I completely understand mandiis frustration
I feel Mandi means by 'frustrated' in the sense of having to rearrange my sentence structure because someone changes their pronoun usage. Its frustrating in the same sense of learning Spanish becsuse your boyfriend/husband/partner mother only speakers Spanish. Its frustrating because of the learning curve. Like yeah it's something I'm still gonna do regardless but im still frustrated cause I'm trying so hard yet there's still slip ups.
I hate when people compare pronouns to the n-word. They are not the same thing. Pronouns are words that are acceptable for everyone it just depends on what they want. The n-Word is a derogatory term! I think it’s okay to admit it is frustrating to try to address
someone with the correct pronouns and still be an ally. Also I agree with y’all, it’s disrespectful af to call a vagina a bonus hole. That is offensive af!
Also I agree people are delusional bc when it comes to the doctor, it’s about your chromosomes and what parts you actually have. Why would you want to pay and see a doctor who is admitting they don’t know how to help you and when billing, your insurance is likely not going to cover a gyn visit if you don’t have a vagina! If anything they are helping you.
This! I was gonna say the same thing about comparing it to the N-word. So tiring. It’s always nonblack ppl too. Or in Weezy’s case… barely black lol
I agree with Mandi. She is allowed to be frustrated about the changes as much as they are. Her feelings are just as valid. It's new to them as much as it is new to us. What if she had her religious views or own beliefs that did not align with lgbtq views but is adjusting?. That is where majority of us are. We are being forced to address someone as they wish and suck up how we feel, what personal values is being broken, etc and that is not right. We should be allowed to feel frustrated. I am frustrated with all the pronouns but that does not mean I do not care about lgbtq struggles.
AYEE
I love that someone kinky like me with our beautiful name … Ambrosia
I'm not calling any individual by "They or them" you can't teach me all my life proper grammar, then 40+ years later want me to throw that teaching out the window cause some people are confused about who they are. Them and they are plural so unless you have multiple personalities I cant' respect it and won't acknowledge it. Just making up $h!t as they go along. I said what I said and I stand on it.
Fyi, I checked the "bonus hole" story. It was flagged as false on Politifact.
I just wanna know what is mandi lip combo?
First time Weezy was ignorant…she is frustrated , that’s real
Ya’ll coming to london?
26:29 i think its just hard to say *THEY THEM* because a lot of people dont look like they thems - we are so used to separating people into he or she. Even if its someone gay or bi, its not difficult to put someone into a category because we're going by what they look like or act like. A gay man that's feminine, its not hard to call him SHE if they identify as that. But people that look like a boy or girl or present as masculine or feminine its easy to group them. There are more and more people that identify as non binary or they/them that still present very masculine or feminine.
People just need to stop getting offended so quickly. It's different if someone asked to be called something (pronoun, name, whatever) and they corrected you multiple times but you blatantly call them something else weeks/months later
I'M FRUSTRATED THAT PEOPLE ARE CROSSING T'S AND DOTTING I'S FOR SOME IMAGINARY SHIT, GET REAL..
I got tickets for the LA show in September and this episode just made me soooooooo excited to go!!! Lol def bout to go shopping for a hella sexy fit to wear 😈👅
And I promise to abide by the rules 😂
Me too imma see them at NYC and cant wait
Lmaooo there's no set way of being a mother. One guidelinr rule my mom would dub it as :just make sure the kid is good 24/7
Me when i have mine: treat em better than I would treat myself at my best
Are you girls coming to Oregon?
No, but they will be in Seattle and San Francisco
@@syckindahead Seattle when? Do you know.
It’s good that Mandi was honest because it’s relatable to a lot of people. But if everyone was comfortable expressing their frustration with trying to understand pronouns then no progress would be made. So I’m glad Weezy challenged Mandi. And when two cis people have these conversations we shouldn’t be taking it personally, we should be open to being uncomfortable. It’s not even about us, we need to do our best to understand, respect, and advocate the way we can. We also shouldn’t be coming for Mandi or Weezy, we all should be having these convos with our friends and family!
I can tell ya rn, as a healthcare worker, I will NOT be using the term "bonus hole". Tfffff
"Bonus holes" is misogynistic and dumb not because it might be more inclusive to Trans women and Trans people-- I want a world where Trans women and Trans people can live fruitfully and safely-- but it implies that not having a vagina is the norm, the default...having 1 hole (implied: a penis) is the standard for bodies/humans and having more than one hole (vagina) is something other than normal or default...
Lies with the Pineapple. I tested it. Made my ex eat a Pineapple Dole ice cream and Disneyland and it definitely tasted like pineapple. A little sweet and creamy.
Miami show please ❤
Would you guys ever consider a matchmaker?
I understand what mandii is trying to say
Tbh that's why you would never catch me at a show on your tour...I'm hungry I want two pizzas and a Pepsi... I'm tired of judging people even if I don't say it out loud it's still in my mind...and it's completely draining...I want to go to Daytona beach... I love watching this show because it keeps my attention...I'm happy i don't sleep with anyone.. I want some new work sketchers lol 😂..okay bye see ya on the flip side 😅❤
Yes we have sex shops in Alabama, but you have to sign a waiver when purchasing saying it's for research purposes 😂😂😂
12:40 during?😮
#yeahheaux
I don’t think Mandi has a strong sense of self yet it heels she’s in limbo
I live in Birmingham Alabama, we have I think two sex stores that I know of. I’ve been to them and they have all the things. I think I need to take a field trip back!