I have heard background instruments in music that I have heard for 40 years that I did not know were part of the recordings. Those who have said that the T1 will bring your old music library back to life weren't kidding. Music that I had stopped listening to due to having heard it for far too many years, sounds new again. These are the best I've ever heard, including various models I have tested. A few times, in percussion portions, I turned my head thinking that someone was standing beside me tapping on wood! The clarity and definition is stunning. I have heard the scratching of fingers on the guitar, and new levels of classical music I did not know existed. The 'soundstage" is remarkable and the detachable cable is a game changer: too many headphones die due to cable issues and the break-away safety factor is protection after spending considerable money to obtain such high end headphones. These are the Mercedes Benz of headphones.
I wonder if the new earpads will do any change to the old T1's, I hope you put the earpads from the new version onto the old headphone and have a listen. If the new pads are memory foam, it means they're more dense than the old pads, and that means they create a better seal, keep more energy inside, etc. and that should improve the bass. That's how what usually happens with memory pads, same thing on the AKG K712, if you put the K701 pads on, the extra bass K712 has is lost. I see on the video that the ear pad opening on the new pads is slightly smaller than on the old, which might be a problem for me since my ears just about fit inside the old version pads.
We can really hear the excitement in your voice with this video, Mike. Its palpable.. and i dont blame u ---I cant wait to get my hands on one, as well.
It looks amazing! not ugly as the senheizer plasic voklkswagen, it looks like mercedes. how does it stands vs the american pearls like oppo pm1 and audese lcd X?
I would guessed there should be a twist lock for the cable attachment or something in that nature, but I guess not. Not sure how I feel about that. Had a pair of Audiotechnia ATHNC9 headphone, nice little thing for its price, but do not have a secure attachment. Can't tell you how many time I ripped the cable out of that thing. But also I do have the old T1 so I might just being bias.
Nice video! Thanks :) I was wondering if you've tried these new T1 with the Apogee Groove? I have the Groove and was thinking about getting the new T1, but I'm not sure if it's powerful enough for them!?
Last question on these. How would these compare to the Nad Viso closed headphone. These are my closed back ones currently. Also any comments vs Senn 700?
Hello Mike. May I ask your opinions on a headphone for acoustic music and k-pop (their mixes usually are a bit hot on low treble). I'm between the Solo2, ATH-ESW9a and MDR-MA900, which one would be your choice? Thanks and keep with the good videos.
hello, what's the output jack from the 2nd gen? is there any 3.5mm jack inside? and can I use it with portable amp that drive headphones 300 ohm? I only had Govibe Magnum Amp, it works perfectly with my DT-880Pro 250ohm, I love it so much and I only need about 40% volume with it ... but this T1 is 600ohm, so I'm not sure if I can pair it with Govibe Magnum since I haven't ever tried any 600ohm headphone ... thanks in advance ... :)
Guys I need an advise! I need some very good headphones for mixing, I have a chance to buy the T1 1st gen(used) for about 600 USD in very good shape. I've been researching the difference between the two generations and I don´t know if it worth to buy the 2nd gen because of the lack of info. I tested the Shure 1840 but as they were new, they were not in their optimal performance , I also realized the impedance is quite low, now I'm not Shure about anything... I would really appreciate any answer!!!
1st gen has more air in the music, but it can be a bit bright for some people. 2nd gen is more forgiving and easier on the ears. The gem is the AK version of T1, AK T1p. You can buy that for under $500 these days. I just bought one for $380.
Hi-Fi Insider thank you for your reply. Ultimately would you say that Gen 2 is a refinement of rhe original or not?Unfortunately i can’t find the AK version of these headphones in rhe UK where i am based. Can you please point me somewhere?
I've watched videos of the reviewer going on and on and on for 30 min. about every frequency of the sound and it's just not necessary IMHO. Shit or get off the can.... I just want to know does it sound good and should I buy it. I go to the reviewer because I trust his/her opinion and expertise and if they fail me a few times then I won't follow them.
+derbigpr500 I never used the case. The new carrying case is more useful. Yeah, these are worth upgrading to. Vocals sound more organic. No loss in detail at all.
+derbigpr500 I just got mine today. This one is an upgrade from the old one IMO and the new case is much better than the old one too. With this you can travel arround with it with ease.
+Hi-Fi Insider So vocals are less forward, but more organic? I heard lower mids are forward and upper mids recessed? can you confirm? I like upper mids to be upfront. Thanks.
+flip#1 Theoratically yes. With Beyers it's like this: The higher the Ohms, the thinner the wire used for the voice coil. On the T1 we're speaking of 0,018mm diameter wire. When you have thinner wire, the mass of the voice coil gets lower and you can make more windings using the same volume. More windings = higher inductivity = better efficiency of the system. Having a low mass voice coil also helps with efficiency and allows for better impulsecontrol, higher cut-off frequency and response/authority. Thanks to the huge magnets the T1 needs virtually no power, however it requires high voltages due to the greater impedance. You can actually run them of battery powered devices, they are that efficient. However a wall powered desktop amp like the SPL Phonitors or Lake People/Violectric amps with their high power *and* voltage delivery definitely won't do them harm!
Sorry but always wondered. I never actually met a person that does this but when you talk, you constantly make this snoring(?) noise. Is it called something? Because being your longtime sub, I have to admit I was so bothered by it but now I used to it
***** I'm actually saving up for the HE-1000 right now a long with a good DAC/Amp to go along with and I'm nearly there! But the T1 Gen. 2 really do interest me...
In a sense, you're right. But there are a few choices when it comes to prestigious high performance super-materials like carbon fibre is just one example. Anyway, I think it's stupid and ugly to put plastic on a high end product. You won't be getting your money's worth. But that's just me.
+woopygoman You're clearly not an engineer or anything remotely related to it, otherwise you'd know that certain types of plastic can be very high end, very expensive. It's a common misconception among clueless people to think of plastic as a cheap material. It's not. And it's actually the best material to use for this application. Why? Well, it's a simple reason, plastic gives you INFINITE ability to make the part exactly like you want, to have exactly those acoustic properties that you need, exactly those physical properties, shape, design, weight, etc. that you need. You won't get that with metals or woods, you can just change their shape, but you're stuck with their properties. Why do you think Sennheiser used plastic on HD800's? Or Beyerdynamic on T1's? Why didn't they make a driver baffle out of gold? Or platinum? Or diamond? Because they tried to save money? No, that plastic is actually more expensive per weight of unit than aluminium, steel, any wood, etc. They used it because it allowed them to achieve the exact acoustic properties, while keeping the design and light weight untouched. Believe it or not (and ask and fellow engineer), using metal on headphones is actually cheaper than using high end polymer materials, and that's actually cheap and lazy design, again it's super simple to take a piece of aluminium, and CNC machine it...and people who don't know better will go all crazy and think the headphone is the best thing ever just because it's made out of aluminium, not realizing that's actually far from ideal when it comes to acoustics. Case in point would be Master&Dynamics. Those headphones would take me about 15 minutes to design their ear cup shells in any CAD program from start to finish, that's how simple they are, and even easier to produce if you have a basic CNC machine and anodizing setup. It would much MUCH harder and more expensive to make the HD800's shell for example. Again, metals and wood aren't ideal, they limit you a lot when designing a product. We're talking about high end headphones that could otherwise use high end polymer's. And carbon fiber? No, just no. Carbon fiber is one of the worst materials in the world when it comes to acoustics, basically it has all the properties you don't want in an audio product, and using it on headphones for anything other than cosmetic reasons would be absolutely idiotic. Point is, you shouldn't be thinking that it's stupid and ugly to put plastic on a high end product, because you clearly don't have the most basic understanding of material engineering or what goes on behind the design of high end headphones, and therefore can't and shouldn't express you opinion on it, unless you want to show people you don't know what you're talking about. I'm sorry if I insulted you in any way, but I'm just saying the truth. Too many people nowadays have too many opinions on too many topics, none of which they understand, and if we don't stop it, we'll end up in a world where everyone will think they can talk about any topic out there and make fools out of themselves without even realizing it.
+derbigpr500 Hey I see you around EVERYWHERE on CZcams and HeadFi and you always post something insightful. Have you gotten around to comparing the new T1's to the old version and whether it's a real noticeable upgrade?
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I have heard background instruments in music that I have heard for 40 years that I did not know were part of the recordings.
Those who have said that the T1 will bring your old music library back to life weren't kidding. Music that I had stopped listening to due to having heard it for far too many years, sounds new again. These are the best I've ever heard, including various models I have tested. A few times, in percussion portions, I turned my head thinking that someone was standing beside me tapping on wood! The clarity and definition is stunning. I have heard the scratching of fingers on the guitar, and new levels of classical music I did not know existed. The 'soundstage" is remarkable and the detachable cable is a game changer: too many headphones die due to cable issues and the break-away safety factor is protection after spending considerable money to obtain such high end headphones. These are the Mercedes Benz of headphones.
I wonder if the new earpads will do any change to the old T1's, I hope you put the earpads from the new version onto the old headphone and have a listen. If the new pads are memory foam, it means they're more dense than the old pads, and that means they create a better seal, keep more energy inside, etc. and that should improve the bass. That's how what usually happens with memory pads, same thing on the AKG K712, if you put the K701 pads on, the extra bass K712 has is lost. I see on the video that the ear pad opening on the new pads is slightly smaller than on the old, which might be a problem for me since my ears just about fit inside the old version pads.
I remember when you unboxed the first genertion of the T1's. Awesome
+Abraham Lendechy yeah, video quality have come a long way since then. :)
Can't Wait For The Full Review!!! like and favorite
+DJ MAXTRIM Thank you! :)
I've heard they really shine on tubes, hope I can find one I want 2nd gen 600ohm no other
We can really hear the excitement in your voice with this video, Mike. Its palpable.. and i dont blame u ---I cant wait to get my hands on one, as well.
+Stephen Spangenberg pls. keep me posted on how you like em'.
+hifiguy528 Will do
It looks amazing! not ugly as the senheizer plasic voklkswagen, it looks like mercedes. how does it stands vs the american pearls like oppo pm1 and audese lcd X?
The mods on the Gen 1, are a beauty
I would guessed there should be a twist lock for the cable attachment or something in that nature, but I guess not. Not sure how I feel about that. Had a pair of Audiotechnia ATHNC9 headphone, nice little thing for its price, but do not have a secure attachment. Can't tell you how many time I ripped the cable out of that thing. But also I do have the old T1 so I might just being bias.
the tuning change.case and pleather headband is what make the gen 2 inferior to me
T1 packaging is much more premium!
Hi everyone. I have a Question, Please help me. Which are the best Headphones under $ 100 to listen to music?
And don't forget you must have an headphone ampli that will cost the same price.....and a very good DAC/player.....
Nice video! Thanks :) I was wondering if you've tried these new T1 with the Apogee Groove? I have the Groove and was thinking about getting the new T1, but I'm not sure if it's powerful enough for them!?
Are the Bluetooth headphones today better than the wireless headphones of (not so) old? They used to cut out and have many problems.
Would these be worth the upgrade from the DT1990?
if you enjoy the 1990, i think no.
Nice headphone! I have DT990 as my first high ohm headphone. It is pretty sweet!
I just bought the DT990 Limited Edition. Will have video when it arrives. :)
That is awesome! Ever thought, I'm an deaf but I love great music equipment.
Are they working with an cyrus one amp?
They have 600ohm impedance and i don‘t know if they‘re working on my cyrus one.
Last question on these. How would these compare to the Nad Viso closed headphone. These are my closed back ones currently. Also any comments vs Senn 700?
T1 v2 is top dog of those
Hello Mike. May I ask your opinions on a headphone for acoustic music and k-pop (their mixes usually are a bit hot on low treble). I'm between the Solo2, ATH-ESW9a and MDR-MA900, which one would be your choice? Thanks and keep with the good videos.
+Kenji Saka Solo2 are excellent and won't need an amp.
hello, what's the output jack from the 2nd gen? is there any 3.5mm jack inside?
and can I use it with portable amp that drive headphones 300 ohm? I only had Govibe Magnum Amp, it works perfectly with my DT-880Pro 250ohm, I love it so much and I only need about 40% volume with it ...
but this T1 is 600ohm, so I'm not sure if I can pair it with Govibe Magnum since I haven't ever tried any 600ohm headphone ...
thanks in advance ... :)
Know where I can get a balanced XLR to 1/4 adapter? Thank you
Guys I need an advise!
I need some very good headphones for mixing, I have a chance to buy the T1 1st gen(used) for about 600 USD in very good shape. I've been researching the difference between the two generations and I don´t know if it worth to buy the 2nd gen because of the lack of info.
I tested the Shure 1840 but as they were new, they were not in their optimal performance , I also realized the impedance is quite low, now I'm not Shure about anything...
I would really appreciate any answer!!!
I guess you could call these the high end $1000 version of the dt990 I just bought
It has been over a year since you got them. When will give your detailed opinion on the sound difference, and which one is better (gen 1 vs gen 2)?
Hi Edward. Go with 2nd gen. T1. It's easier on the ears and more upgradable.
What Amp & Dac being used , Also when the full comparison is coming ?? :)
I am wondering to know how is the new t1 compare with McIntosh MHP1000. Since they all come from beyerdynamic drivers.
+Jun Liu McIntosh is more neutral, like HD800.
Where is the full review?
Hey Mike I wanna know if you could do a video of what your top 5 or 10 headphones are!
+biggybtoussaint check out my write-up in TONEAudio. Most still stands. www.tonepublications.com/blog/10-favorite-headphones-from-hifiguy-528/
+Hi-Fi Insider thanks
They are better or Sony MDR-Z7? Thanks
how are compared with the HD800?
@ Hi-Fi Insider what's your conclusion on the sound of the Gen. 2 compared to the originals?
1st gen has more air in the music, but it can be a bit bright for some people. 2nd gen is more forgiving and easier on the ears. The gem is the AK version of T1, AK T1p. You can buy that for under $500 these days. I just bought one for $380.
Hi-Fi Insider thank you for your reply. Ultimately would you say that Gen 2 is a refinement of rhe original or not?Unfortunately i can’t find the AK version of these headphones in rhe UK where i am based. Can you please point me somewhere?
Where did you get your T1 modified? Looking to do the same thing to mine to make it have a detachable cable.
reach out to my friend. Let him know Mike sent ya. www.head-fi.org/u/348881/peterek
Thanks for describing what we all already know.
did you already know this in 2015 when the headphone was released and the video was made? :)
Hi-Fi Insider haha!!! Fait point ! I just wish you did more actual sound reviews.
I've watched videos of the reviewer going on and on and on for 30 min. about every frequency of the sound and it's just not necessary IMHO. Shit or get off the can.... I just want to know does it sound good and should I buy it. I go to the reviewer because I trust his/her opinion and expertise and if they fail me a few times then I won't follow them.
Hey Mike! would you recommend these or the Akg K812? thanks.
+TheMrgonzalo05 these are more forgiving so it's easier to enjoy with a wide variety of gear.
+hifiguy528 thanks Mike.
My wallet is crying. Tell me it's not worth upgrading from an old version. But damn, why don't they come with the aluminium case anymore...
+derbigpr500 I never used the case. The new carrying case is more useful. Yeah, these are worth upgrading to. Vocals sound more organic. No loss in detail at all.
+derbigpr500 I just got mine today. This one is an upgrade from the old one IMO and the new case is much better than the old one too. With this you can travel arround with it with ease.
+Hi-Fi Insider So vocals are less forward, but more organic? I heard lower mids are forward and upper mids recessed? can you confirm? I like upper mids to be upfront. Thanks.
no love for Bang & Olfuson?
Hey do any of you peeps know if the astell and Kern ak120 is a good beginner dap for getting into hi rez audio. The older
+Jeffrey Wilke go for the JR.
+hifiguy528 thanks
Wow! SO FAST!
Can you tell me if the bass is deeper on V2? I owned the V1 and that's really all it needed was deeper bass.
V2
+Hi-Fi Insider Thanks. Looks like I'll buy them then.
you sold the v1 I will buy it from you ?
does it mean the higher ohms the better the sound will get?
With higher ohms you need a strong amp to push the headphones to its full potential. The amp is sorta like the key to unlocking the great sound.
+flip#1
Theoratically yes.
With Beyers it's like this:
The higher the Ohms, the thinner the wire used for the voice coil.
On the T1 we're speaking of 0,018mm diameter wire.
When you have thinner wire, the mass of the voice coil gets lower and you can make more windings using the same volume.
More windings = higher inductivity = better efficiency of the system.
Having a low mass voice coil also helps with efficiency and allows for better impulsecontrol, higher cut-off frequency and response/authority.
Thanks to the huge magnets the T1 needs virtually no power, however it requires high voltages due to the greater impedance. You can actually run them of battery powered devices, they are that efficient.
However a wall powered desktop amp like the SPL Phonitors or Lake People/Violectric amps with their high power *and* voltage delivery definitely won't do them harm!
hifiguy528 can u do an unboxing of v-moda crossfade wireless
+Austin Tran I'll try to get my paws on them. :)
I wonder when you order the T1 cause on the official website they tell me I need to wait 4-6 weeks:(
+柴伊 you can order from wooaudio.com/headphones/beyerdynamic/t1.html ship international by FedEx.
***** Thank you very much!
Wow i dont understand the technology at all. The headphonepads are not connected together there is only the headband. What is this magic???
Hey I modified those V1s! :D
your mod looks better than version 2
YIC Thanks! I'm Peterek over on Head-fi BTW.
One more thing Lol. How about the T1 vs Audeze led-XC?
T1
T1 Gen.2 The best
Eric T1
So hot! Thanks, Mike!
would you say these are neutral?
WOW these are beautiful! But far beyond my headphone budget. :-(
these are more expensive than my rig...
Actually it is my computer more expensive than this headphone :D
Version 1 is better looking and has a nicer case.
Sorry but always wondered. I never actually met a person that does this but when you talk, you constantly make this snoring(?) noise. Is it called something? Because being your longtime sub, I have to admit I was so bothered by it but now I used to it
+JtheKproduction Yea, it's called breathing.
+JtheKproduction Sorry that you're bothered by it. I have a breathing condition... :(
***** no you dont have to be sorry about it i was just wondering
they 740.00 on amazon
Review please.. Unboxings are boring without the sound quality review
I want one!
+Ansar Arif these are worth owning. The new lower retail price helps too! $1099.
***** I'm actually saving up for the HE-1000 right now a long with a good DAC/Amp to go along with and I'm nearly there! But the T1 Gen. 2 really do interest me...
+hifiguy528 you say that like its a low price
+AsianObama lower than last generation... $200 less!
Hahaha man your voice is unique !
amazing...
My rent is almost half the price of these things.
Sadly my rent is nearly four times
*looks at T1s* *looks down at my T51s* *looks at the T1s again).................................................... :( lol
+Magnetorheological time to add new T1 to the collection. :D
Am I seeing plastic on a thousand dollar set of cans? WTF!!??
+woopygoman LESS WEIGHT = MORE COMFORT
In a sense, you're right. But there are a few choices when it comes to prestigious high performance super-materials like carbon fibre is just one example. Anyway, I think it's stupid and ugly to put plastic on a high end product. You won't be getting your money's worth. But that's just me.
+woopygoman You're clearly not an engineer or anything remotely related to it, otherwise you'd know that certain types of plastic can be very high end, very expensive. It's a common misconception among clueless people to think of plastic as a cheap material. It's not. And it's actually the best material to use for this application. Why? Well, it's a simple reason, plastic gives you INFINITE ability to make the part exactly like you want, to have exactly those acoustic properties that you need, exactly those physical properties, shape, design, weight, etc. that you need. You won't get that with metals or woods, you can just change their shape, but you're stuck with their properties.
Why do you think Sennheiser used plastic on HD800's? Or Beyerdynamic on T1's? Why didn't they make a driver baffle out of gold? Or platinum? Or diamond? Because they tried to save money? No, that plastic is actually more expensive per weight of unit than aluminium, steel, any wood, etc. They used it because it allowed them to achieve the exact acoustic properties, while keeping the design and light weight untouched. Believe it or not (and ask and fellow engineer), using metal on headphones is actually cheaper than using high end polymer materials, and that's actually cheap and lazy design, again it's super simple to take a piece of aluminium, and CNC machine it...and people who don't know better will go all crazy and think the headphone is the best thing ever just because it's made out of aluminium, not realizing that's actually far from ideal when it comes to acoustics. Case in point would be Master&Dynamics. Those headphones would take me about 15 minutes to design their ear cup shells in any CAD program from start to finish, that's how simple they are, and even easier to produce if you have a basic CNC machine and anodizing setup. It would much MUCH harder and more expensive to make the HD800's shell for example. Again, metals and wood aren't ideal, they limit you a lot when designing a product. We're talking about high end headphones that could otherwise use high end polymer's. And carbon fiber? No, just no. Carbon fiber is one of the worst materials in the world when it comes to acoustics, basically it has all the properties you don't want in an audio product, and using it on headphones for anything other than cosmetic reasons would be absolutely idiotic. Point is, you shouldn't be thinking that it's stupid and ugly to put plastic on a high end product, because you clearly don't have the most basic understanding of material engineering or what goes on behind the design of high end headphones, and therefore can't and shouldn't express you opinion on it, unless you want to show people you don't know what you're talking about.
I'm sorry if I insulted you in any way, but I'm just saying the truth. Too many people nowadays have too many opinions on too many topics, none of which they understand, and if we don't stop it, we'll end up in a world where everyone will think they can talk about any topic out there and make fools out of themselves without even realizing it.
+derbigpr500 Hey I see you around EVERYWHERE on CZcams and HeadFi and you always post something insightful. Have you gotten around to comparing the new T1's to the old version and whether it's a real noticeable upgrade?
Hablas como Donald Trump
Wow! SO FAST!