By far the best brand new Harley I’ve bought. For a stock engine to have this amount of horsepower and torque with no upgrades is awesome. Racing a friend were going over 100 he’s full throttle and I laugh and show him I’m just in 4th I’ve not even asked this bike for all she’s got yet I was just in sport mode. Best money I’ve spent. If you can afford it like to go fast feel all the horsepower and torque on stock bike this is the one.
Ive had all the cvos over the years No joke. The pan america by far handles better then ALL of them. Its the gem of the lineup.Long distance no problem. You want to go offroad no problem. Push of a button to change all dynamics no problem.
I agree ! Harley was smart to get into the adventure touring world !! They are great bikes….just a pain in the butt to work on haha, but with new technology and engineers they make life hard on us techs lol
I’m so happy about the suspension. Makes it worth every penny. Still not my fav look but it’s growing little by little. Love seeing’s master tech sharing.
Oh yeah I was obviously pretty stoked about the suspension “whooooo doggie” 🤣 yeah I wasn’t at first but I realized as a brand and as a company the look has to evolve to stay relevant
adjust your suspension for many different selection from comort , sport , offroad by a push of the button.You also can change throttle response , engine breaking , power. You can also customize and make 2 totaly custom setting.
Whatcha mean FINALLY??? My 2000 FXDX came originally from the factory with a tune-able front end with adjustable rebound/compression and a rear tune-able compression. Cmon now brother you are slippin. 😜✌🏽 DaYuM them floorboards look like murdered-out Birkenstocks but altogether a very sharp looking motorcycle indeed! ✌🏽🇺🇸🙏
Hahaha I ain’t slippin yes FXDX, sportster sports have been the only models to offer a great suspension, I guess I should have been a lil more clear, FINALLY !! On a touring bike ! Thanks for keepin me in check 🤙🏻🤣
@@VtwinRevolution my DX is Black on Black. I was working for my local H-D Dealership and had ordered an ElectraGlide standard but being as I was 30 years old and all my friends had FXR’s or Dyna’s i not only didn’t want to be the “old man” in the group but I also didn’t want to be the one who stored everyone’s jackets, bags and crap! 😜🤓
Haha, man….if you would have said smoky gold I would have offered both my boys up as trade 🤣🤣jk That smoky gold superglide sport was such a SEXY BIKE 😍😍
oh it also has 150 hp.Of course i added almost every upgrade from exhaust (vance and hines) daymakers, new skid , quick shifter etc. The list is long. Gat a PAN
I would like to know if the ST's heads are NOT VENTED, just like the VVT version of the 121 motor. Did they use the same setup, or are the heads vented like they were in 2023? Also, how do they handle the crankcase venting? In 2023 I had to run a catch can with an extra vent on the cover of the crankcase/transmission. Everyone is familiar with all the venting mods to stop oily goo from being pumped back into the intake. So... did they fix the problem and keep the EPA happy? Anyone know exactly how this works now? I've seen video on the 117 motor but it's not the 121, so need some definitive insight on this. Thanks.
Yes the ST even though it’s a non vvt motor has the exact same crankcase breathing system as the 23 CVO, as a matter of fact all 24’s have this breathing system. The air thats created by the pistons on the down stroke is vented through the crankshaft roller bearings, into the cam compartment where there is a passage that goes through the crankcase into the transmission housing, then up to the trans top cover/ breather system. Inside of it there are some baffles to stop the early heavy oil, then as the oily air continues its path it has another bend to slow it down further to separate more oil and there is another passage that the heavy oil drains back to the oil tank. From this point it goes up the rubber hose and into the breather where all the magic begins Is this the end all be all…..probably not, but in looking at the design it seems like it’ll have a much better success rate
@@VtwinRevolution Definitely appreciate your insight. Do you believe there will be less carbon buildup over time than there was on 2023 and older models? From what you described, it does seem that venting the trans top cover to a catch can may still be a good idea. I did that on my 2023 RGST and now that I'm seriously considering purchasing the 2024 CVO RG ST... I would do the same UNLESS it's just not going to make any real difference. Thanks for your time and consideration.
Yeah, with that new trans top cover being the actual breather system there will be companies that offer their own spin on it and may incorporate a trans breather as well but it’ll be a hot min before something is on the market
Seems like the challenger offers about the same performance with better suspension. For about 2/3 of the cost. Now i own a Harley, but if you want performance, the cost of this is ridiculous 😮
I agree…..the cost of these bikes have gotten out of control!!! I reaponded to another comment a while back and I agree there are other manufacturers that offer better suspension on stock bikes it’s one place it seems like Harley refuses to upgrade. BUT this new CVO ST does have some pretty amazing suspension
The PAN is an awesome bike ! Still a few electrical bugs to work out of it, when Harley went to the dual BCM it made the bike very voltage sensitive so hopefully this year they got it taken care of. They changed the battery used in the PAN
I’d love to own a pan am but they made this bike tall so us vertically challenged even with adaptive rider height some of us still can’t even get close to touching the ground.
And the crankshaft is already at bran new 6 thow. Run out. To me that is for a over price bike buy 30 thousand dollars. There is no quality in the production anymore and they no its going to fail what a joke
I won’t deny that….ive seen cranks out that much or more brand new….most fall within .002-.003” runout. It’s a production vehicle and you’re gonna have stuff that slips through that shouldn’t, happens all the time with any manufacturer ! But the bikes have gotten better over the years.
By far the best brand new Harley I’ve bought. For a stock engine to have this amount of horsepower and torque with no upgrades is awesome. Racing a friend were going over 100 he’s full throttle and I laugh and show him I’m just in 4th I’ve not even asked this bike for all she’s got yet I was just in sport mode. Best money I’ve spent. If you can afford it like to go fast feel all the horsepower and torque on stock bike this is the one.
That’s awesome !!! Congrats on your purchase !! If I could afford one o would have had it a day after riding the first one we got lol
One of the best reviews on YT
Thanks dude that’s very kind of you
Ive had all the cvos over the years No joke. The pan america by far handles better then ALL of them. Its the gem of the lineup.Long distance no problem. You want to go offroad no problem. Push of a button to change all dynamics no problem.
I agree ! Harley was smart to get into the adventure touring world !! They are great bikes….just a pain in the butt to work on haha, but with new technology and engineers they make life hard on us techs lol
Thanks for the review
Glad you liked it !
I’m so happy about the suspension. Makes it worth every penny. Still not my fav look but it’s growing little by little. Love seeing’s master tech sharing.
Oh yeah I was obviously pretty stoked about the suspension “whooooo doggie” 🤣 yeah I wasn’t at first but I realized as a brand and as a company the look has to evolve to stay relevant
Totally. The suspension is ideal.
@TomGlander yes it is 🤘
It’s a weapon of mass destruction lol. Absolutely beautiful bike.
🤣🤣 that’s awesome ! I like that
Nice job on the review!
Thank you !
Man love your flow, subded
Thanks dude !!
adjust your suspension for many different selection from comort , sport , offroad by a push of the button.You also can change throttle response , engine breaking , power. You can also customize and make 2 totaly custom setting.
So with the new 24’s you now have the ride mode selection like the PAN….just not the adjustable suspension.
Whatcha mean FINALLY???
My 2000 FXDX came originally from the factory with a tune-able front end with adjustable rebound/compression and a rear tune-able compression. Cmon now brother you are slippin. 😜✌🏽
DaYuM them floorboards look like murdered-out Birkenstocks but altogether a very sharp looking motorcycle indeed!
✌🏽🇺🇸🙏
Hahaha I ain’t slippin yes FXDX, sportster sports have been the only models to offer a great suspension, I guess I should have been a lil more clear, FINALLY !! On a touring bike ! Thanks for keepin me in check 🤙🏻🤣
what color is that FXDX ?
@@VtwinRevolution my DX is Black on Black.
I was working for my local H-D Dealership and had ordered an ElectraGlide standard but being as I was 30 years old and all my friends had FXR’s or Dyna’s i not only didn’t want to be the “old man” in the group but I also didn’t want to be the one who stored everyone’s jackets, bags and crap! 😜🤓
Haha, man….if you would have said smoky gold I would have offered both my boys up as trade 🤣🤣jk
That smoky gold superglide sport was such a SEXY BIKE 😍😍
@@VtwinRevolution ah yes I concur definitely! ✌️
oh it also has 150 hp.Of course i added almost every upgrade from exhaust (vance and hines) daymakers, new skid , quick shifter etc. The list is long. Gat a PAN
Do you have the aluminum luggage or the hard plastic ?
I would like to know if the ST's heads are NOT VENTED, just like the VVT version of the 121 motor. Did they use the same setup, or are the heads vented like they were in 2023? Also, how do they handle the crankcase venting? In 2023 I had to run a catch can with an extra vent on the cover of the crankcase/transmission. Everyone is familiar with all the venting mods to stop oily goo from being pumped back into the intake. So... did they fix the problem and keep the EPA happy? Anyone know exactly how this works now? I've seen video on the 117 motor but it's not the 121, so need some definitive insight on this. Thanks.
Yes the ST even though it’s a non vvt motor has the exact same crankcase breathing system as the 23 CVO, as a matter of fact all 24’s have this breathing system.
The air thats created by the pistons on the down stroke is vented through the crankshaft roller bearings, into the cam compartment where there is a passage that goes through the crankcase into the transmission housing, then up to the trans top cover/ breather system. Inside of it there are some baffles to stop the early heavy oil, then as the oily air continues its path it has another bend to slow it down further to separate more oil and there is another passage that the heavy oil drains back to the oil tank. From this point it goes up the rubber hose and into the breather where all the magic begins
Is this the end all be all…..probably not, but in looking at the design it seems like it’ll have a much better success rate
@@VtwinRevolution Definitely appreciate your insight. Do you believe there will be less carbon buildup over time than there was on 2023 and older models? From what you described, it does seem that venting the trans top cover to a catch can may still be a good idea. I did that on my 2023 RGST and now that I'm seriously considering purchasing the 2024 CVO RG ST... I would do the same UNLESS it's just not going to make any real difference. Thanks for your time and consideration.
Yeah, with that new trans top cover being the actual breather system there will be companies that offer their own spin on it and may incorporate a trans breather as well but it’ll be a hot min before something is on the market
Seems like the challenger offers about the same performance with better suspension. For about 2/3 of the cost. Now i own a Harley, but if you want performance, the cost of this is ridiculous 😮
I agree…..the cost of these bikes have gotten out of control!!! I reaponded to another comment a while back and I agree there are other manufacturers that offer better suspension on stock bikes it’s one place it seems like Harley refuses to upgrade. BUT this new CVO ST does have some pretty amazing suspension
40K FOR THE CHALLENGER ELITE. YOU DO THE MATH.🤡
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BOY THAT EAGLE SURE LOOKS PISSED! HA!
Haha
@@VtwinRevolution GREAT FUN REVIEW BRO...WOOOO DOGGIE!
Thank you !
You need to ride the PAN PERIOD
The PAN is an awesome bike ! Still a few electrical bugs to work out of it, when Harley went to the dual BCM it made the bike very voltage sensitive so hopefully this year they got it taken care of. They changed the battery used in the PAN
I’d love to own a pan am but they made this bike tall so us vertically challenged even with adaptive rider height some of us still can’t even get close to touching the ground.
I thought this is master technical review not master salesman
It is, I went over specs that a salesman wouldn’t know….whats wrong with being excited about a well put together product ?
should cost half
Yeah the cost of these bikes are sickening…..
And the crankshaft is already at bran new 6 thow. Run out. To me that is for a over price bike buy 30 thousand dollars. There is no quality in the production anymore and they no its going to fail what a joke
I won’t deny that….ive seen cranks out that much or more brand new….most fall within .002-.003” runout. It’s a production vehicle and you’re gonna have stuff that slips through that shouldn’t, happens all the time with any manufacturer ! But the bikes have gotten better over the years.