Obesity: England’s most pressing healthcare challenge?
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- Obesity is one of the biggest public health challenges facing the UK. In this new film, RCP special adviser on obesity Professor Rachel Batterham OBE meets leading experts and patients to consider what needs to be done to take meaningful action on this complex problem.
The documentary explores the latest science on how and why people develop obesity and the most recent available treatments. It considers obesity through the lens of health inequalities: how some groups are more affected than others, and how reducing stigma and elevating the patient voice are crucial in tackling the issue.
If it was genetics, the percentage of overweight and obese people would be the same as in 1970. It is the changed diet since the 1980s that causes this. Too much processed food with high sugar and high carbs.
It is both. Those who have the genetic predispositions are more susceptible to the negative changes/increased food availability in our environment.
@@lukehannanutrition - yes - it's called gluttony
@@peterpisspotty3052 said by everyone who doesn’t actually understand obesity.
@@lukehannanutrition - I've just lost 11 stone - I understand obesity
@@peterpisspotty3052 congrats on your weight loss. But that’s like saying “I recovered from cancer so now I’m an oncologist” - it doesn’t make you an expert.
Blaming genetics for the obesity problem is such a cop-out. Our supermarkets are atrocious: packed to the brim with nutritionally-deficient, ultra-processed rubbish. As a society, we simply eat too much of the wrong things, and we eat much too frequently. Obesity is a problem with elevated insulin. Minimise your carbohydrate intake, focus on fats and proteins for satiety, and watch the weight fall off.
100% agree. See my comment posted just now.
I'm afraid you are wrong to blame carbs. It's processed carbs, which also come with fat. As for protein, we certainly don't need any more of it. It's fibre the majority of people are lacking, not protein.
All food is good but just eat less and always keep watch how much you daily eat.
@@senadbrick … all food is not good …highly processed foods are loaded with bad oils and bad sugars. Right now, in our fridge we have popsicles that boast “no added sugar.” But reading the ingredients list shows three other forms of sugar. All under other names: sucrose, fructose, etc.
@@shirleymason7697 it's all good and natural, unless of course it contains artificial flavors or some other unusual ingredients. Main problem with obesity is overeating. Yes some stuff can make us more craving and even addicted, but overall we live life of plenty and that can be dangerous just as being poor without access to enough food. Of course not all food is equal and it's true that junk food is worse then wholesome food, but even then obesity won't go away if you are vegan or eat only organic food. Anyways, obesity is a terrible disease and what I found that works best against it is fasting and eating less. With fasting you give body time to process all the food and eating only when truly hungry, but never to the point of satisfaction or feeling full.
It's not genes that make us struggle with our weight; it's weight that makes us struggle with our jeans.
Well said
good one
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Silly boy. Love puns........
The moment genetics are brought up as a focal point was the moment this whole documentary breaks apart.
Yes genetics are a part of the problem, but look at film of people in the 50’s they are much thinner, so you can’t tell me every one’s genetics have changed.
I too gave up at that point and started studying the weights of the experts lecturing us in this rubbish film..
I immediately stopped watching. It’s obvious nonsense. I’m of the silent generation (before baby boomers} and the change in my lifetime is astonishing.
Hormones such as insulin and leptin have a huge impact on weight. That old insulin resistance is a tough nut to crack!
3 words 'What The Health'
She talks genetics but when I was growing up there was ONE obese girl in my village. I hardly ever saw fat people. Look at videos about life in the 50/60s and you can count on one hand the overweight. Genetics is bollocks. It’s fast food, convenience food, laziness and greed!
Yes it is , 100% agree.
It's genes meeting the current food environment. In a world of predatory food advertisement and production those that are more hungry and more motivated by food will find it hard to not overeat.
Genetics is the path that the medical profession can use to profit from. They will keep getting paid to do research which will take years. Then they'll create some pill which again they and the pharmaceutical industry will profit from and we will keep getting fatter because "our genes are at fault" we obese people are being screwed over big time by the medical profession and the food industry as well. We need to stop buying that junk and work together to find the solutions that work for each person, which at at the end of the day will still come down to lifestyle and food changes.
Did you watch the whole thing? They keep saying "diet and exercise are the key", they just mention genetics contribute to how easily people gain/lose weight - because it is a legitimate factor. They never say it's an excuse, nor that you can't do anything about it. It's called "nuance". Also, comparing the modern world to the 50s makes sense only insofar as it shows how big a factor access to food and social shaming has.
You may be missing the point. If you have genes that predispose you to obesity but the food you get is healthy, you're unlikely to become obese. You knew only one fat girl in your village when you were a child. If some of the slim kids have ballooned as their food changed whole others didn't, it could be far more complicated than the gluttony-and-sloth stereotype.
Unbelievable, blame peoples DNA rather than the corporate food industry.
Even more terrifyingly this statement is being made by the country’s top physicians.
Democrats Vs. Republicans
Genes Vs. Food industry
Absolutely, this seems like sponsored by mega food companies.
You can get Greggs and McDonalds delivered to your door now. Just saying.
it's nothing to do with genetics. It's not even that much to do with processed foods. It's about convenience and laziness.
Don't tell people they're lazy or interrupt their convenience though. They won't vote for you.
@@eara8426 Wrong. Republicans don't blame either of those. They blame people's habits.
Exactly: it’s professional misconduct
I never saw ANYONE laughing at fat people at the gym at all. Never ever! It's quite the opposite true; we encourage them to stay and fight the fat together. Most people in the gym are friendly, but have also their earphones in. Gym is for your training routine, not for flirting or looking (good or bad at others). At least this is my experience.
1) most people don’t need to go to a gym- walking every day is enough. 2) look at the size of the arse on him/her is a favourite Aussie comment.
In my experience I've never seen anything other than support and encouragement given to people who need it in the gym. I do wonder whether some of these experiences are perceived. In general people couldn't care less about looking or laughing at others in the gym, they're too busy concentrating on their own workout 🤔
We respect their effort in fact that’s just another excuse to not do anything. These guys are addicted to food
@@janeswinbank5872 you can work out not in a gym if you don’t like nany countries have good structure for exercise at streets they are just finding some excuse
Gym rats are happy people. It’s people who don’t exercise that are nasty. I try never to miss a work out.
Empty lives , boring jobs, financial insecurity and the availability of cheap takeaway and supermarket foods full of sugar, starches and addictive chemicals allied to the increased use of private cars has left most of us obese or overweight.
Yes. But only those unlucky some 70% who are genetically predisponed to ...
This person seems to be absolutely determined to avoid blaming sugar and carbs that we were told was the healthiest diet since 1977.
That dr. Farooki is a propagandist paid by fast food conglomerates. Genetic predisposition is nonsense. Stop eating and drinking junk.
What do you mean by carbs? Vegatables are carbohydrates. Shall we not eat them?
Carbs - bread and flour based products. Verges are ok but keto advises against potato
@@paultoomer2213 Carbs alone are not always bad in themselves. But Carbs are transformed into sugar in the body. (Keato or Low-Carb diets limits Carbs, especially processed Carbs, to shift the body away from relying on Carbs & Sugar for energy.)
But, Carby products in peoples diets have increased a lot in the last 20-30 years and they are a lot more processed now. Like pasta, baked treats, chips and white bread now have ingredients that make them faster to create. (taking out many of the healthy parts of bread, making it white, fast & processed.)
"Normal" food is now seen as fried, processed, bread, fast and full of Carbs and added sugar. And we eat way too much of it for what our bodies need.
@@MJ-qb5ph You forgot Pasta & Rice they're the worst Carbs, especially in terms of portion size. I'm Type 2 Diabetic and I attended a Diabetes Understanding Course years ago in a Health Centre in a predominantly Muslim area, and the Muslims in attendance were shocked at how much smaller the rice and potato portions need to be and mixing Naan & Chapattis & Rotis Samosas etc. They were really shocked. However the most shocking thing was the nurse practitioner who was teaching the course who actually said on front of everyone that I wouldn't know about Indian Cuisine an indirect dig at me just because I'm white, she therefore assumed I wouldn't know, she was greatly wrong and because she repeatedly singled me out like this over the course sessions, I reported her for racism and bigotry.
It is the food system, not the medical system that will fix this. Highly processed foods are killing us.
ty Ty gets it
I think it's a few factors: abundance of cheap high carb food; abuse of alcohol being completely normalised; lack of walking (which doesn't tend to make you hungry unlike heavy exercise) and lack of stigma. Stigma is not always a bad thing.
I don't think there's lack of stigma
Let's say, there are different kinds of "stigma." People should NOT be shamed, bullied, and laughed at. They SHOULD feel that they have a serious health problem and that this problem negatively affects the entire society (massive health expenditures). There is "good shame" (realistic responsibility) and "bad shame" (social dominance)
A huge issue is the convenience of food in the modern world and that humans will tend to take the easy choice.
I was bordering on clinically obese a few years or more ago, I started exercising more, but stayed overweight for a long time.
What really changed things for me were two ideas, one that you can either pay up front now with pain and suffering from exercise and eating well and get that payment back with interest in better health and life quality. Or you can enjoy yourself now by eating what you like, relaxing on the sofa watching TV, avoiding effort, and you're going to pay for it with high interest in bad health and eventually an early death. Either way, you've got to pay. I choose to pay up front with pain and effort, running an average of over 10km per day now, and when I can also going to the gym. I'm now incredibly lean, to the point that I'm one of the rare individuals for whom BMI doesn't apply, because it puts me as over weight when I have visibly lean musculature.
The other idea that I embraced is "doing the hard thing". If you want to be better than average then you have to work hard for it, there are no short cuts...
Unfortunately most people want an easy way to achieve their goals. Weight lose drugs like ozempec or whatever don't deal with the problematic behaviour of choosing the easy option of avoiding exercise and the effort of making healthy meals and eating well.
Also, this video is awful. The host is a twit, talking about "living with obesity" and "lived experience", and even worse is talk of genes for obesity. There is no such thing as genes for anything, gene expression is highly influenced by the environment which includes other genes. The woman hosting this "documentary " seems like the type who wishes to understand and help obese people and avoid putting the responsibility on them. But obese people need to take responsibility for their own health.... And if they don't, they'll eventually pay for it, in both money and serious health problems.
and lack of personal responsibility, its all about rights,
You forgot too much plant shit and the lack of red meat and other healthy animal food...
Without a doubt one of the worst films on obesity I have seen in recent times. It is totally bypassing the real reasons for obesity. Genetics? Come on... That is a mostly irrelevant side-issue, but the real reason is eating rubbish. And tons of it... No mention of what industrial sugar, or processed food do to your system... The solution is NOT to treat obesity better, but to avoid it as much as possible: By educating people, by enforcing laws on unhealthy foods etc. Was this financed by the food industry or the pharmaceutics industry? Surely one of the two.
Totally agree, see my comment posted.
Absolutely correct. Within minutes I sensed the documentary was making excuses for people making bad food choices.
Genetics is not why people keep getting fatter. It's largely to do with what they put inside themselves.
Let us talk a bit about population genetics here. Yes, there are so-called 'obesity' genes. Now, how many of the UK population has it?
Let us also talk about phenotypic expression, in general, & gene expression, in particular. This equation is commonly taught in Genetics:
Phenotype = Genetic + Environment + (Genetic x Environment)
Since the influences of genes, environment (i.e., all factors other than genes, e.g., nutrition, exercise, etc.), & the interaction of genes & environment can be quantified, how much exactly is the contribution of genes, the environment, & their interaction in the expression of obesity in the UK population?
I posit that genetic testing for obesity is in order & be done as a standard so to clarify obesity diagnostics that is due to genes. That way, it will give us a clearer picture as to whether genes is the most probable causation to any individual that is obese (or morbidly obese).
I think they are lying. They should talk more about how the context has changed in the last fifty, sixty years. Junk and processed food are available 24/7 nowadays and these are cheap and very addictive. In some neighbourhoods you cannot buy real food anymore, only junk food, and that is a real problem among others.
Absolutely true.
Is it really lying if they genuinely believe it?
Also with food being expensive for example £4 for a small packet of fruit or finding extremely unripe vegetables. Of course people are going to buy highly processes foods
When I tried to "lightly" discuss nutrition and weight to someone who is overweight, I get a lot of pushback. "Oh I eat vegetables, and oatmeal, and I don't eat rice because of the arsenic". As a nurse, I have never had to take care of a patient with arsenic poisoning . Meanwhile I watch them eat foods with ingredients you can't pronounce.
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I don’t buy into that genes cause you to be overweight. When I was at school in the 60’s and 70’s only one of our class was overweight, but not by much. We ate freshly cooked food, much smaller portions and meals out were a very occasional treat. Take out food, calorific coffees and home delivered foods were unheard of. Nowadays so many children and teens are very overweight, saying it’s genetic is a get out of jail free card. The lady who said some families eat whatever they like and don’t get fat whilst other families do get fat. That’s bizarre, has she considered that if you swapped their diets over the weights would be reversed too
That is so true, there was one over weight boy in the whole school in my school in 1970, we had a completely different diet plus more Mothers did not work and had time to cook properly.
Exactly we ate saturated fats and meats lots of cooking ! The food change has become pure poison known in ma made manufactured foods from chemicals giving us diseases and illnesses.
yep I was in school in the 90s and only one or two kids was overweight, had one classmate RIP before age 40 due to complications of obesity, I imagine that would be more common in the new generation
99% the type of foods we eat.
We blame everything on our genes. No, epigenetic tell us we are wrong.
There are no obese people, in a famine. I was obese three years ago. Now I'm not, and am the strongest version of myself, so far. I ate less, and moved more. And it worked. Stop telling people that they are powerless to make a difference. For most people, that's simply not true.
If most people can do what you did why are most people overweight? Clearly there's more to it. In a famine the population has no choice, the food is NOT THERE to be consumed, so the onus is on the powers that be to control what the public consumes. Why do you think Americans are so fat? Because they equate eating as much as they want with 'freedom' & plenty.
Anyone obessed should lose weight by default because of inflation. How can anyone pay the difference in price to stay obsessed? I don't even eat until I'm full sometimes because of how expensive food cost
Losing weight is easy, just eat less. You don't need to change your genes, just your mental attitude. Anyone can do it, if I promise a million pounds for each stone a person loses, most people would easily lose weight irrespective of their genetics.
@@Jtzist Excellent point.
@@sidstovell2177 it's like gas prices. If someone 1 year ago always put $40 in the tank and it filled the tank and still use that $40 they would have to pay the difference in order to be full. That would then cause the consumer to either cut back on gas or other things in order to get that same fi ll up. Yet obsessed people can still do this. That's why I see obsessed people as people who are wealthy. Because if they weren't they would lose weight by default of inflation
So we should be taking dietary advice from overweight doctors who never mention sugar or processed food. Who is financing these guys?
agreed
Nobody, they are just trying to justify what they want to believe. No bribes required.
LOL Yeah I noticed that too. It must be her genes!!!!!!!
Who do you think?
A friend of mine from Thailand came to see me recently and was shocked at the size of people here in the UK. I said it was due to all the processed and fast food we have in this country.
Yes, all the processed and fast food consumed in massive amounts. These people consume over 2,000 calories for breakfast. They need to stop right there, but no; lunch, tea, dinner, snacks, a little midnight snack before bed. You're talking close to 9,000 - 10,000+ calories. That's why they are gigantic and unhealthy.
In the past few days, I’ve watched two separate neighbours get their breakfast delivered by Just Eat type service. Both were midweek, not a Sunday treat for example. The ability to order junk food to our door any waking moment is not helping at all. After the mp who made comments about peoples inability to manage cooking fresh food from scratch and often on a budget, I really paid attention to the cost and time I took to prepare home made burgers and jacket potatoes with a lovely filling for the beach. The total cost was around £7 and there was enough to feed 5 people with amazing feedback. This was most significant from moody unadventurous (with food at least) teenagers who commented how much better than McDonalds or any takeaway it all was.
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@byronchavarria4954 - only Americans can think this is the only way to write it…. Bigheaded…. 🤦🏼♀️
80 % nutrition - 20 % sport/exercise
Deal
Unfortunately yes. Ilove doing Sports, but I also love eating and I really enjoy junk food from time to time.
By stopping eating junk food, soda, fruits juices, processed foods, and come back to NORMAL food made with raw ingredients.
The responsibility of fast food companies and food manufacturers is enormous in the global obesity crisis. Of course there is also everyone's responsibility, no one is forced to eat these products that are very harmful to health
"Your genes may load the gun but it's your diet/lifestyle that pulls the trigger"
the finger is sugar coated
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I'd say genes load the gun and environment pulls the trigger.
I was obese when I lived in a food desert, now I'm a healthy BMI.
You can't blame genetics for bean over weight when they are eating to many takeaways and drinking to many fizzy drinks and eating a rubbish diet People have control of their diet but often people like to try and find an easy excuse rather than taking responsibility and saying right I need to change my diet and start walking rather than getting in the car
Genetics probably plays some role in people's weight. Some people are genetically heavier set, and some people are genetically slim. But no one is genetically obese. These are probably heavier set people who lack self discipline and gorge on an unhealthy diet.
Genetics play a huge part. My sister and I have different fathers. Pretty much grew up on the same food except I ate far more as I was blessed w the skinny gene from my dad. She was always bigger than me and had to work hard to keep her weight within normal range. I was size 6-8, and she was size 12-14. All due to genetics of our different fathers.
For decades we received very bad advised don't blame people, even this documentary does not present the full picture...we are the result of very wrong guidelines from government.
@@susanasp3065 You're kidding, right? People are fatter because they are eating more junk foods, less vegetables, and leading a sedentary lifestyle. It takes work to keep the weight down, work that many just don't want to commit to.
@@Sammy-il1qf are you familiar with studies done to the contestants of the bigger looser and how the mayority regain the weight???
I used to have your same opinion, I was 10 kgr heavier than I'm now. At a point I was so sick I gave a try to the ketogenic diet because despite of eating a version the healthy diet I was feeling very sick...I couldn't believe how eating truly so many more calories I went back to the weight of when I was a teen and nearly 30 of my symptoms desapeared. A few people I know experience the same benefits on this diet, no increased exercised.
Exercise and activity have a great benefit for your health but when trying to loose weight is nearly pointless, we should approach weight lost from the point of view of hormon regulation and there is nothing most disruptive for your hormones that sugar and process food.
*_"I was laughed at in the gym, because of my size"_*
While I don't doubt that this does happen, I believe it's rare as majority of the people who go to the gym are more concerned with their workouts and doing what they (like me) need to do, or whether equipment is available rather than being concerned about who is fat or not.
As an older fat lady I can say that it's probably their imagination. Feeling exposed at your very worst is as bad as being laughed at. If not, worse.
@@cincin4515 That's a good point. I wouldn't EVER have gone to a gym when I was obese.
Since the late 70s rates of obesity have skyrocketed. If you’re looking at genetics why not look at the control mechanisms around addiction.
maybe the 'food' should be looked at. The USDA guidelines pushed grain, sugar. and seed oil. sugar IS addictive., I can't say it's the person, it is more than likely the processed 'food' that got everyone hooked. The carbohydrate insulin model explains a large portion of the obesity issue, but seed oils, (exceeding high in Ω-6 fatty acids (signaling molecules for weight gain)), cannot be overlooked, and it accounts for about 35% of the caloric intake of those who eat processed / prepared food.
Yes Great
I worked in 2000 in Uk as a nanny, and I was shocked how english people eat badly. I got very sick with the food the family was eating, I was glad to go back home after several months and find normal food.
You Czech? Slovakian?
I am Polish and I would recommend few of British dishes myself.
@@jezalb2710 I have a Hungarian housemate and she feels the same. She hates virtually all British food
@@DevonPixie1991 I would not say I hate British food. But there is only few I enjoyed
Just curious what types of food do they eat? Although I live in london, I mostly eat food from my culture.
@@imarip9781 hi it was in 2000, so its quite old. But they ate lot of food from tins. Like pasta in tin woth tomato sauce. Frozen pizzas and fish and chips. Especially the fish and chips my body couldnt take it and i just vomitted and had lot of pain, fever. Their only vedgetable was carrotes and pea 1x week. I fell very sick couple of time and told them i d cook my own food which was fine to them. They were physically very strong because the ate like this all the time and nothing happened to them. They just continued with their tins, crisps, chips, pizza and nutella. One thing was great though I cant forget was their breakfast. Roasted bread with a slice of ham, it was very tasty! I loved it!
Did he really say that there has been too much emphasis on personal responsibility?
Brilliant! It's not my fault my kids are fat - the doc said so.
Yeah that makes me so mad. The perfect answer to personal responsibility. It's like saying "well, god said I could". Well, if the doctor says that, it's written in stone.
When parents quit cooking, because both worked, nobody provides healthy meals for children. Everybody comes home tired and they opt for ready meals.
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I have never seen anyone laughing at a big person in the gym here in Australia. Everyone shows respect when someone is prepared to put in an effort to better themselves.
@bellatindale I am also in Oz and i'm at the gym 6-7 mornings a week, this is my 24th year a member. Never once seen anyone laughed at or ridiculed in any way for their size. 🥰🥰🥰
Amen to that. I am blessed with a 1m82 lean body(ladies say i look like a super model since teenager) and i exercise a lot. When i see an obese person exercising, it motivates me to exercise even harder. Seeing an obese person exercising is like seeing someone with a stubborn will figthing a formidable foe. I love that.
It was just another excuse to not look after themselves.
OK, some people are more prone to refined carb addiction from improper diet than others, just like some are more prone to alcoholism, drug use, or gambling addiction. But it should not overlooked that refined carbs and poorly sourced processed foods and the resulting insulin resistance and metabolic syndrome are the root problems of obesity in the VAST majority of the people, not genetics. And the solution is a diet that addresses the acquired hormonal problems, allowing for the breaking of the refined carb / processed food addiction. Heal the broken system and the byproduct of the healing will be natural and automatic weight loss. Trying to address weight loss by cutting calories and exercising, without fixing the fouled up hormonal system by excluding the particular types of "food" that broke it to begin with, will fail almost every time in the long haul.
Once heard someone say that rejecting/laughing at a fat person at the gym is the equivalent of doing so to a sick patient in a hospital. I remember how terrifying it was to take that first step and feeling like my body isn’t the “right” kind to even be inside a gym and that I’d be laughed out. Been consistently working out for 4 years now and been to gyms all over Europe, some in very rough areas and have come to the conclusion that most people that go and have experience are supportive to people of all sizes and happy to help. Taking that first step and actually joining a gym was by far the hardest part of my journey, but something that everyone will be proud of themselves for doing.
Gyms didn’t exist before.
The regulars at the gym would be very enthusiastic and proud of an obese person’s progress. They’d all feel invested.
Mate I'm a skinny runner and every time I see a bigger person out jogging I always have huge respect, way more so than for a fellow skinny person. Glad you have had a generally positive experience with others in gyms, I hope that is generally the case for others too. well done keeping up the hard work!
That’s nice to hear. I’ve lived in the UK. They hate fat people and feel entitled to shout out insults. For such “proper” people , they are incredibly rude.
@@lizzie1897 that’s where I live, I’m very sorry to hear that that was your experience.
Lived in Scotland for my masters and was shocked how the majority of people (not just Scots but also English) were massively obese but after visiting Tesco I wasn't really surprised anymore. There are bargains on sweets and crisps constantly through the shop. Asta was even worse because they sold a lot in xxl packages. Waitrose was only marginally better then Tesco. I always felt like patting on my back when I ended up without anything sweet after shopping. The temptations in all those stores is massive and most people are not disciplined enough to simply pass them by. Also, the majority of the food sold fell under the heading of superprocessed junk food. Stuff that only needs to be warmed up of which Pizza is just one of them.
I only shop at M&S, waitrose and sometimes morrisons for that reason. There are certain things like matcha tea, grass fed meat and no added sweetener/sugar foods I can get from there. When I stopped buying snacks/unnecessary foods it was the same as shopping at tesco or asda
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I think wairose is good for healthy foods alongside M&S which banned some sort of unhealthy food. Also if you venture in cities you might find a middle-eastern/ Mediterranean food store selling fruits you will NEVER see in supermarkets
I have to agree with you. How many people who really try to manage their weight stand behind someone's trolley in the supermarket and it is loaded to the gunnels with fizzy drinks, crisps, ready to go meals and so on. I think part of the solution is getting to the kids when they are young. Born just 7 years after the war, my mother didn't work and we had a cooked meal every day (and I was a very difficult eater, made to sit in front of a now cold, congealing meal and then sent up to bed without food). I seem to remember drinking my first coca cola well into my twenties because I just wasn't brought up on it and that means it was like it didn't exist. Then we were allowed out to play all day in the holidays, so we were running around, climbing trees etc. We also sat at the table to eat, never on the sofa.... (no eating between meals and certainly not in front of the newly acquired television). I am not saying this is the only cause, but I am agreeing that self discipline (deferred gratification) is acquired in relatively early childhood and I am so grateful that happened for me (and many others because that WAS the norm). That early acquired discipline has stayed with me throughout my life and has enabled me to eat a whole packet of biscuits from time to time etc without ballooning.
Australian supermarkets are just as bad $2 off if you buy 3 etc. Ive never fallen for it because I don't want 3.
Some of our seasonal veggies are cheaper sometimes but thats rare. It's only the garbage that's cheap.
People need to be properly educated on health and nutrition. Genetics play a very small part it is a personal responsibility to look after your health
The personal responsibility it the big one. Most people want other people to fix this issue for them, when it comes down to the individual.
I think that people at a genetic disposition for obesity in combination with the ease in obtaining ultra processed foods and convenience foods. Also mental health plays a very real role in affecting weight
This is partly true, but most people don't actually have the education needed to take personal responsibility and fast food is deliberately made to be addicting.
79%+ of overweight people in the US don't come from everyone deciding to get fat, they come from predatory "food" companies, environments that discourage healthy eating and exercise (and movement in general) and terrible education surrounding food and nutrition.
Putting it down solely to personal responsibility is letting people that are deliberately killing millions to make a profit off the hook.
They just find something to blame to not held accountable
Sadly all the advice is wrong.
I’m 2 minutes in this video and feel sure what they’ve got to say on it will only scratch the surface. The problem lies within, peoples traumas and the habits they lead us too, lack of responsibility.
So millions and millions of people randomly, at around the same point in history when these foods have become increasingly accessible , have become irresponsible?
Is this an example of mass irresponsibility? Like mass hysteria in the Victorian times?
Why is it unfathomable that massive corporations that make billions from selling ultra processed foods have a part to play in the obesity pandemic?
So massive corporations paying scientists / physicists to lie about the impact of sugar has nothing to do with it?
Littering the isles in supermarkets so 80% comprise of ultra processed foods has nothing to do with it?
I guess it’s all from within. Some voodoo psychologising spell that has strangely rendered vast swathes of the population so incredibly irresponsible when it comes to their food intake! How amazingly bizarre!
For years my doctors would just say lose weight. But never worked with me on how. I got up to 352 lbs. I finally just decided to start reducing my carbs since I am type 2 diabetic. Then I was diagnosed with hypothyroidism. I started with an endocrinologist. They helped me. It has been 5 years (with a break in 2020 and 2021 due to stage 3 cancer), I am down so far to 183 lbs. My goal is to be145 lbs. It is just really slow due to certain medical conditions and continued hormone therapy for my cancer it is really hard. I just keep going and I am not discouraged since I have gotten so far already. It is important to eat foods that work for you. What I eat and how I do intermittent fasting won't work for others. I finally found a method that works for me.
I hope your life is better now :)
Congratulations on your success. It’s really a day to day lifetime effort but in time you see results.
I wish you my best in your journey to find health, I went keto and lost the excess weight I had picked up with age plus fix the symptoms of fibromialgia and irritable bowl syndrome I saw doctor upon doctor who gave me no usefull advise. I now know what works for me too...there is not one size fits all!!
Anyone should be able to lose weight since the price of food is so expensive because of inflation. Unless you rich
@@arielsea9087 how can it be a day to day lifetime trying to lose weight when food prices are high. Wouldn't someone eventually run out of money? Inflation is real...or is it just me seeing how high food is?
One of the problems is the type of food that a lot of people eat and portion size has been getting bigger and bigger
Look at the macro break down of the people you know who are overweight. In nearly all cases the diet is high fat, high carb, and very little protein. Combine that with a complete sedentary life style and it is why the issues for the most part exists as it currently does. Individuals need to make the life style change required to change this on an individual level.
And and the price of food has been getting bigger and bigger too. Wouldn't inflation cause people to cut back on food?
Ordinary dinner plates are the platters of decades ago. I have both, so can compare.
I recovered from obesity and now I work as a PT trying to help others do the same. As you can imagine I have spent a lot of time thinking about this issue and observing behaviour. To me it seems the problem is culture, we have normalised and even applaud food addiction and comfort eating. In addition very few people seem to have an internal locus of control and feel like their own behaviours are the result of external factors. From experience I can also tell you that it is very difficult to even talk about weight-loss anymore because it's seen as offensive. But if anyone is struggling, it's so simple, count your calories and do exercise. I lost 5 stone like that.
It is not that simple,
Food addiction
Malnutrition that leads to binge eating,
among other factors, even iron deficiency can prevent weight loss, and increase the consumption of sugary foods, among others,
each body a different universe from the other
Thanks for the comment
I’m a PT also and people are constantly asking me how to lose weight. I tell them the same answer that worked for you. To date, in 16 years, I can count my successes on one hand.
@@richardblankenship5481 Are they the ones that actually did what you told them to.
@@missano3856 Yes
@@richardblankenship5481 Well, there you go. Something I'm proud of is a guy I worked with who had your standard crap body who asked me for advice, took it and wound up a shredded beast.
Drs don't tell people when they're overweight, it's as if it's taboo. The body positivity movement is doing massive harm.
In my whole life, I've never seen a fat person be laughed at for their size. It seems to me, the people featured in this documentary are just looking for excuses: "I don't exercise because people laugh at me", "genetics is to blame", "nobody has ever told me my exact BMI and what to do, and I am suddenly 30 and with a BMI of 60", "the supermarkets are to blame", etc. All that while stuffing their trolleys, fridges, freezers and pantries with pre-fabricated food of the worst kind.
Look at photos of people from the 70's you'll barely see any overweight people, it's not genetics it's the food and overeating
Yes. food that is specifically designed to create addiction, with Fructose which causes hunger and fat storage.
@@chazwyman8951 so just read labels and don't buy that crap. It takes a bit of effort to find the right foods today because there are so many options. A general piece of advice though, if it's made by a large corporation like Nestle, Kraft, etc. you probably wanna skip it.
I don't buy it. If you live on a diet of pizza, chocolate and Diet Coke you will get fat no matter what your genetics are. Cut out sugar completely and eat 3 well balanced fresh food meals a day and you will lose weight. It's as simple as that. And no I don't buy the poverty argument. Basic healthy foods are cheap. We have never spent such a small proportion of our incomes on food. What worries me is that obesity is becoming normal and what worries me even more is childhood obesity. It is borderline child abuse in my opinion.
The answer is simple go back to basics and look into human evolution.
Eat very little to no carbs as carbohydrates are not an essential nutrient to ingest. Your body will make enough glycogen to survive
Eat mainly animal fat and protien.
Eat only when hungry and to satiety.
Do NOT eat little and frequently so you can stop spikes in insulin production give it a rest.
Do NOT eat seed or vegetable oils you can run a truck on it why put it in our bodies.
Do NOT have sugar or sweetners.
Resistant training is best.
Cholesterol is not the issue carbs is.
you got it !..... but reading the comments here people still don't get it
It’s fibre people are lacking and causing poor gut health and thus the body just stores it instead of digesting it properly. Fibre iodine to regulate the thyroid which controls metabolism
@@PTSTEH20 that is so not true. Do read about it in The Fibre menace and watch what Zoe Harcombe says. Oh and follow the carnivore community to understand the truth about fibre. That includes me I haven’t eaten any fibre any plants or plant products at all in the last 6months. I believe I am one of the healthiest fittest 43 year old females in town.
Yes , Great 100 % Gratitude for the comment, No to carbs is totally for fatigue
Funny, I guess that 'weight gene' just popped up out of nowhere circa 1970's, right?
Probably came with 5G.
You can’t run off a bad diet. Start thinking about insulin levels and the foods that contribute to them. Seed oils, sugars, breads, rice, and the modern food industry are causing the problem. Some of us should never eat carbs.
I 100% agree with you 💯 👌
Nobody should eat carbs...
Thanks for the comment,
Greetings
@@cesarwarrior3723 I stopped eating most carbs recently and the excess weight is practically falling off me.
You do not "suddently" find yourself obese like that young woman seems to imply.She was overweight as a child and now extremely overweight at 30.She did not need to know her BMI, all she needed to do was look in a mirror.
She never said she became suddenly 28 stone, only that the issue had persisted for so long that she is now 28 stone. She said she was overweight as a child, its just no one had really sat down with her and told her you are very very obese and unhealthy (her BMI). Society normalises fat bodies, and so people who are fat sometimes don't realise how fat/unhealthy they are. Many people are ignorant as to basic things such as what your BMI might be if you are that size.
Definitely isn't genetics. I was chubby as a boy along with both my siblings. Then I started playing football and boxing where as they have not done any sort of exercise. They are obese now where as I'm average. My attitude to life is so different to there's also, my habit and rituals have transferred over into my career also. Accountability is needed along with more education at school
It's not that simple, each body and mind a different universe,
There is no lazy body, there is a malnourished body, with a healthy appearance at times
I'm 5'8" and 132 lbs. I am the size I am because I eat for the size of this body.
I used to be just over 200 lbs and I was the size I was because I was eating for the size of that body.
And yes, I did have complicating factors - an absorption issue prevented treatment of severe hypothyroidism for years until we figured it out (I carried a TSH of 17-22, it was amazing how functional I was). I did have a slightly slower metabolism, coupled with some pretty good depression/anxiety/fatigue issues. But I still lost weight before we figured out how to get my thyroid meds to work by simply eating less.
We overcomplicate all of this because people don't want to be at fault for something while missing the best part - it then becomes something they can fix. Food addiction is a very real thing, but instead of getting treatment, people desire to tell themselves that it's the fault of everything around them. Until this is stopped, I don't expect to see an end to the obesity crisis. Personal responsibility is something that is lacking and sorely needed.
Genetics don't change to that extent in a single generation. Also, if genetics played such a huge role barbaric surgery wouldn't be so successful in the short term.... it works by making it physically impossible for people to over eat. That's a physical limitation which indicates behavioral issues. Sidenote- there is a significant percentage barbaric surgery doesn't work for long term because they continue to over eat and eventually stretch out their stomach over a period of years and then regain weight because they continue to over eat. Obesity can largely be credited to hyper palatable cheap foods, behaviors/self soothing with foods, and obesity being more socially acceptable. By saying it's mostly genetics, you are giving away thr power to fix it because it will always be something out of your control aka out of your responsibility. i.e. external locus of control. It's damaging and only makes the crises worse.
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I solved my obesity issue when I started eating fermented foods not pickled and stopped eating pasteurised milk and cheese , only fermented cheese and yogurt, more than half of us is made of bacteria, so it have a great Impact on us .also lack of sunlight especially near infrared in the morning and evening when the uv is below 3 which penetrates deep recharges mitochondria and start repairing all the organs , even sitting outside in the shade is very good u will take about 40 percent NIR by reflection on surfaces
People need to start to be responsible with what they’re eating. We all have to control what we eat and how much we eat. But for a lot of people it’s always the same excuse: it’s too hard to work out, it’s too hard to not eat what they want, most overweight adult behave like 5 years old…
There's 6 siblings in my family....we're all different shapes and sizes.
When I was a child 50 years ago you hardly ever saw over weight people...probably because food was prepared and cooked at home instead of take away...People sat around watching telly less than they do now ....and there was no Internet to sit playing ridiculous usless games for hours on end instead of running and playing outdoors...there didn't seem to be access to so much cheap sweet rubbish....we had a treat occasionally so I 100% disagree that it's genetics.
Yes Great
Years ago I heard the bbc mention, in a news bulletin, research showing that people who sleep in complete darkness without even the light of a digital clock are less likely to be overweight. I’ve never heard this again and I wonder why it’s not more publicised. It certainly helped and helps me.
I eventually found a sleep mask that totally shuts out all the light but it wasn’t easy to find.
I lost six stone, 3 rocks,one brick and a bunch of gravel and I’m still ten pebbles overweight!
That's awesome though, hope you meet your target :)
Love your comment - try adding some 6mm grit to your diet, I think it may shift that ten pebbles of excess weight. LOL.
Tim Spectre of Zoe is the best source of research. Whatever the government says will solve your problems, do the opposite.
Genetics are a very small part Genetics don't choose what people eat
Our genes are adjusted to a primitive diet with almost zero carbs until autumn. We evolved to gorge sugar in preparation for winter. Sugar triggers fat storage and suppresses satiation, so we have reserves for winter. IN the modern world with 365 availability the winter never comes so people addicted to sweet things eat and grow fat all year round.
Most people who become fat do not do so from choice but by making poor choices. The reason they make bad choices are many. Governments and health systems promote a high carbohydrate diet and are surprised people get fat. We feed carbohydrates to animals purposely to get them fat before slaughter and as you can see so do humans.
We have change from people who used to eat into live to people who live to eat. Advertisers constantly show how eating high carb fattening foods makes for a happy life. Add to this that these high calory fattening foods are hyperpaletable and cheap and you have a recipe for anyone feeling down to indulge in them. This gets people addicted to these foods, they gain weight feel bad and eat more.
These foods also do not induce satiety. Its very easy to eat enormous amounts of these low nutrition high energy foods that no one needs in these modern times. It's much more difficult to overeat more satiating fodds like meat and fat because you soon feel full.
Doctors receive almost no nutrition education and both they and dietitians get their education from universities that depend upon grants from food and pharmaceutical industries that are happy with the status quo and resist change.
Look back to films of the early part of the 20th century and there are few fat people. Our genetics have not changed since then.
Humans evolved 4 million years ago on a largely carnivorous diet. Agriculture began around 10 thousand years ago. The hyperpaletable foods developed since the middle of the 20th century have been incorporated into our diet which we did not evolve to eat.
Why do we never see what people with this problem actually eat? Every person I know who is overweight eats junk food, a high percentage of processed food, eats large portions and regularly snacks. Including myself I know three people who eat a maximum of three nutritious meals a day, rarely if ever snack and regularly exercise. We three are our ideal weight and have toned bodies. We are each of different ethnic backgrounds. I know and have known people who yoyo between different weights when they try different diets or exercise regimes. I suspect it would be revealing to see what each of the subjects in this program eats during the day. I will also add that when I'm at a supermarket a person's size almost always (possibly always) corresponds to the food they have in their basket. For the record I have been obese and am now my ideal weight with a BMI under 20. Lost 5 stone and 8" off my waist. 90% or more of this is down to the food I eat. Maybe the other 10% is down to weight training. I'd like to suggest it is closer to 100% food. Took me 5 years through research on CZcams and books.
I've lost 23kg by not eating carbs. Doing 10k steps and not eating high fat products like McD, KFC, and Coke drinks.
Fat is healthy but of course if above calories required you put on weight. I have high fat everything like butter. It is carbs not fat.
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I also don't buy in to the "genetics is a cause of obesity theory." That's unproven, and is mostly based on statistical studies and not clinical trials. Bad science in a nutshell. We are no different genetically to our ancestors from 50, 60 or even 100 years ago who did not have an obesity problem. Something else is driving this effort to focus on genetics, and I think the finger should be firmly pointed towards the agroindustry who want us to keep consuming the crap they are feeding us.
Saturated fat , cholesterol in chicken and processed meat is a true killer . People love their meat and pay the price with their health and longevity.
Drivel do some research for heavens sake. Saturated fat is very healthy. Plant eaters need supplements the clues are there. You eat your grass i will eat beef
I’ve never taken a supplement, I’m 6’2 and 180 , no meat in 40 years , I’m 60 now , still do 250 push ups a day and carrying a ton of muscle . Plant power 👍💪💪 whereas you …. 😂😂😂😂😂
16 minutes in and the word "sugar" has not been mentioned once. This video is a pitch by the NHS to upsell (from COVID) dependency on its own "experts". Whereas the untold story is the massive scam of low fat diets and the increased use of sugars in nearly all processed foods.
I was overweight. I did not exercise. I ate second portions. I ate snacks between meals. I ate treats without thinking when watching movies etc. I’m now 7 years fit and slim and a marathon runner. Yet every day I have to actively control what I eat. I am always tempted by apple crumble, custard tarts, muffins at Pret, etc. the truth is whether it is genes or culture or social status - we have to just stop eating so much. Whatever the cause. That is the only cure. You can’t exercise out a bad diet. And you can’t lose weight if you eat so much. So even if your genes predispose you to behaviours it doesn’t really matter. We have to reduce quantities and replace junk with healthier options. Governments can help enormously by better regulation of what we eat and the way food is sold- chocolate isles before checkouts are utterly immoral and should be banned immediately.
I concur. And I say that from experience.
Right on, as we used to say.
Well done .
I recently spent three days in hospital in South Australia for a small procedure. The hospital food was largely sugary carbs. They served sickly sweet "orange juice" that was more sugar than orange. If even hospitals can't get nutrition advisors into their kitchens to formulate healthy menus, how can people from lower socioeconomic areas with poor understanding of problems with processed food be expected to learn and cope with trying to change their eating habits?
When one eats crap they will be fat, when one eats sensibly they'll be healthy, when one exercises they also be healthy. I'm 58 & weigh 54kg. Never been fat & had twins 22 years ago. I was 50kg when I became pregnant. I don't eat crap
If individual genetic is the main cause of obesity, you shouldn't be seeing a rising number of obese people in a same population year over year.👩🔬👨🔬
we drive everywhere-sugar is everywhere- no one knows how to cook their own food-teens don’t dance any more-we drink too much booze- fast food rules-quite predictable 🙄
Look back at videos from the 1960's & earlier. Nobody was fat because ultra-processed convenience foods were hardly a thing yet.
Eat less, move more. Stopping added sugar and eat a plant based diet. I lost 8 stone over 3 years. Bmi now 24.
Well done! Isn't it wonderful! Stay with it!
I wasn't overweight or fat before but when I went vegan, for ethical reasons, I lost 10kg.
Even without thinking about it my diet became significantly more nutritious and less calories dense.
I went from 65kg to 55kg. I'm female and 5 ft 7.
I started with lots of meat subistutes etc which are fairly processed but after a while I didn't even fancy them.
No cheese, no chocolate, no ice-cream just because they're not vegan.
Now chickpeas, lentils, tofu, tempeh and lots of vegetables.
Looked at the cooked breakfast menu the other day.
Vegan 'full english': 350 calories
Classic full english: 1150 calories.
I'm always satiated and satisfied. Thank God I went vegan.
u ever count calories ?
@@cloudycloud4171 no, I just eat when I'm hungry and until I'm full
@@cloudycloud4171 not good for diabetics
Well done , I’ve been veggie for 40 years . Lots of vegetables. It’s the best diet .
Access to cheap, convenient junk food plays such a huge part in the pandemic of obesity worldwide today. I was born in 1951 when supermarkets did not exist. We went to the butcher, greengrocer, bakery, fishmonger and general store for dairy products, soap etc. A side of beef would last a family of 6 for 3 days. Our plates were piled with fresh buttered cabbage and potatoes and I cannot ever remember eating snacks in between meals. Processed food is so full of sugar, salt and additives to allow a longer shelf life, containing no roughage and most importantly, they are ADDICTIVE!! That's where the problem lies, not genetics!
The modern foods are addictive, but not to everybody, those who are affected need extra effort, a lot of it.
Take control of your OWN HEALTH....they (the system) don't care about you ! Don't believe me ..go out for half an hour and take a look around*
Its sad medicine has been so corrupted but atleast people aka the masses recognize whats going on ..
Genes load the gun, lifestyle pulls the trigger.
If you are truly interested in addressing this issue, lookup UK Dr. David Unwin. This is a sugar problem, plain and simple.
Or in US, Robert Lustig. Or all the way back in UK to Yudkin , via Patrick Holford.
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Obesity IS NOT due to health inequality. It is due to cowardice and ignorance, in the Health establishment, politicans and greedy food producers. There may be some who are fat because of hormonal problems or genes but this cannot explain the fact that obese were less than 5% in the 1970s on a lowish carb intake and a highish fat intake. Then, the populations of Anglophone countries went from obtaining most of their calories from fats to obtaining them from carbohydrates for three main reasons.
1. The cowardice of the health establishment in the face of the bullying and manipulative Ancel Keys who imposed his view that fat, especially saturated fat, was the cause of CVD. He was no expert and was contradicted by lots of studies but the health establishment were cowards and didn't tell him to p**s off. Simple carbs are converted rapidly into glucose by insulin that shuts down the use of fat and converts that not used in exercise, which is most of the time, into fat. Once the simple carbs are used we are hungry again. Do this three or five times a day and we get fat. Cutting calories per meal doesn't work. We just reduce our metabolism to compensate and the lack of glucose, to which we are adapted, makes us hungry so we cannot sustain it.
2. This coincided with a fall in cooking at home so people became reliant on ready meals, a godsend for the food producers.
3. Food producers mass produced vast quantities of cheap, easy, simple carbs like white bread, pasta, pizza, rice, fruit juices, chips. 50% of the populatoin get 50-70% of their food intake from low nutrient, cheap, easy, simple to cook and eat simple carbs that carry any flavour easily. Yet they are low nutrient, rapidly turned into fat and increase inflammation leading to obesity, diabetes and CVD. Virtually every non-raw food has sugar added in some form.
The only fats we should avoid are transfats [illegal almost everywhere now], and seed oils because of they heat treatment that makes them inflammatory. Other than that, animal fats, butter, olive oil, chocolate, avocado, nuts, etc are all fine but sugar free.
So. the way to get slim and stay slim is:
1. Minimise sugar [it is difficult to entirely eliminate it] in all its forms. Sweets, biscuits, honey, syrups, cakes, alcohol, fruit juice, etc. Have them for monthly treats only. Have sugar free eveything. Eat nuts and sugar free chocolate for snacks. Learn some keto recipes. Minimise simple carbs, always use whole grains, chickpeas and lentil for the kids or yourself if you must. Learn some leafy recipes made with olive oil or butter. Don't have sweets, crisps, icecream or biscuits in the house.
2.After a week or two of adjustment, if you want to lose weight for an occasion skip breakfast, dinner or a whole day. Skipping is far easier if you are fat adapted because your body can use your fat for energy.
3. Fat and protein is far far more satisfying than carbs. You could not eat more than 700 calories at a sitting of steak and salad and a glass of wine and then not be hungry till breakfast, then have eggs with ryvita and butter. You could put away 3000 calories of pizza, wine and dessert - and it all goes to fat.
3. Keep moving. walk whenever you can, fast.
It works and is sustainable for the rest of your life.
Hi Robert - I have T2D and have researched the dietary advice/information that has been published by "Experts" and "The Establishment" from the 1950''s to the present day. Your comments sum up perfectly the conclusions that I have reached.
I reflect on how many people have suffered from chronic illness and/or premature death, lives blighted by this false information which still persists today. The actions of all those involved in this deception are criminal. All the best - Terry
Look at a person who has been lean all their life. Ask yourself how likely it is that they will become obese. Now look at a person who has been overweight most of their life, just how likely is that they will become & more importantly STAY lean? As well as genetics, behaviours are LEARNED from an early age. If you have not learned how to eat moderately & healthily & applied that learning for YEARS you will likely NEVER eat moderately & healthily save for short term diets which you will resent.
I was fat my entire life until I woke up and lost the weight at 28. Humans do have free will.
We,ve ‘traditionally’ done nothing. My dear Mother could see what was coming. When I said I was going to study nutrition ( back in 1966 ) she sagely asked if I,d then spend my life seeing obese people! Well, we got round that by not including obesity in our referral criteria. (well, not until the damage was done!)
There was no flagging of weight gain. Nothing on prevention. Medics still don,t prioritise nutrition, never mind understand our peculiar food culture. It,s still a Cinderella subject. I have spent the last 50 years following our failures on all fronts : social, cultural, emotional, psychological, political, medical in all their manifestations.We,ve spent the past 30 odd yrs talking of our obesiogenic environment. From Prof Marmot, the Black report to Lord Krebs last summer, there have been myriads of reports. And yet again, the correct Govt fails to implement all the policy recommendations. Obesity has become a dirty word, and opportunities for sensible conversation avoided. Nobody monitors weight gain successfully at those critical key life stages. Mike Lean,s work decades ago ….identifying that vital need for support. We,ve forgotten how to start the conversations. All NHS offers is last attempt,treatment. In the last resort, it is expensive bariatric surgery. And the suggestion on genetic screening. Now? In our health service whet even access to GPs is challenging ? This is not rocket science ( it would be funded if it was ) . Why are we not talking prevention? Prevention happens outside the health service. Everyone needs to be on board. It goes across all areas of our culture & society. Where is the evidence that the sugar tax had any real impact on the ever rising incidence of obesity when Lunch is coffee and a cake. Where is the conversation in making access to healthy food available and affordable? Where are the nudges to increase veg and fruit intakes, where is the positive talk? For the medics, and policy makers, it,s all negative messages. We,re still essentially using the 1987 language of NACNE. Our whole food culture needs to become more positive, nourishing and colourful. Universal and enjoyable. Who said : if you can dream it, you can do it.
Typo current Govt… ( not correct! )
You should've just taken Home science classes at school. In the 70's we were taught what makes us fat and how to avoid it and treat it. Too much sugar and starches. Then came the 80's and home science was scrapped because it was sexist and dietitians told us all to eat low fat garbage.
Now everyone pretends like they didn't know.
I was a child in the 1970's & ABSOLUTELY NO-ONE was obese back then!
So what happened?
I think that between the 70's & the early 2000's "something" has been added to our food that has made it more addictive than heroine. The poor people on 600lb life are clealy addicted to food, but why? Food sustains us. It should NOT be addictive!
My weight has yo yoed all my life. I am currently 122 lbs at 5 foot 3 in but I have been as high as 300lbs.
& why are we making excuses for this crisis?
Being overweight & obese has NOTHING to do with genetics, being big boned, & having thyroid or other medical issues. It is simply about eating too much. We used to call this gluttony.
Dont eat carb laden, processed food. Cook healthy meals. Have the odd single day liquid only fast to cleanse your system.
Of course it does not help today when non of us here in the UK can see our GP's anymore. We need our GP's!! So why are we no longer allowed to see them?
But untill we are allowed to see our GP's again, it is up to US & only us to take care of ourselves.
Stay healthy lovely people xx
If you view film of people in the 1950's they are almost universally slim. That was a time of deprivation following the war and there was less food available and smaller portions were the norm. A calorie is a calorie for all - how can genetics miraculously enable some to extract more energy from a calorie and so grow fatter for the same amount of food? Sceptical. It's sugar that's making people fat. Sugar is the enemy. Not only sugar in its obvious forms, but all carbohydrates such as beer, bread, pasta, potatoes, cakes and biscuits.
Almost not a word about food quality and poor eating habits, really? Instead, more 'studies', more treatments, more medication when it is too late. Where is the credibility? The medical profession are salivating at this, and Chris Witty is a prime example of a technocrat who thinks technical interventions are the solution.
What a complete cop out. It’s about carbs, cheap food like products, physical activity and cynical money oriented big business. I lost 7 stone reversed my need for insulin, blood pressure and other meds by going ketogenic - why cut yourself open to fix a simple dietary fix. The medical profession is letting people down apart from a small minority of practitioners who understand like David Unwin. It’s not about genetics.
What people inherit is unhealthy eating practices from their families. Fat children almost always have fat parents. There are some island communities where for centuries, they were slim and ate a healthy diet of fish, fruits, and vegetables. Then, they got McDonald’s and KFC and so forth and now these communities have abandoned their traditional diet for fast food and voila! Rampant obesity and related diseases. The same thing is happening in Dubai and India, where their traditional healthy diet is abandoned for delicious fast food - and you’ve guessed it, now there are children with Type-2 Diabetes and teens needing WLS. Genes might play some role, but that can be overcome with a healthy diet and joyful movement and self-control.
A lot of people seem to be missing the point. Nobody denies that a highly processed diet is bad. However, some people are far more vulnerable to obesity than others - and this vulnerability is genetic. There is very strong, continuously growing evidence, that the genetic variants a person inherits, and the numbers of copies of genes that a person inherits, may massively raise their risk of obesity.
We accept easily that people can inherit genes for coeliac disease. As long as these people don't eat gluten, they're fine. We accept that some people inherit genes that make them vulnerable to breast or prostate cancer. In the same way, some people inherit genes that make them vulnerable to obesity. When these genes interact with a standard western diet, the person balloons.
Let’s look at the big corporates that promotes sugar especially hidden sugar in foods … let’s look at the big mistake re healthy and unhealthy fats especially around eggs, butter & healthy ones & instead promoting margarine, vegetable oil and low fat products. And eating a little and often and therefore keeping blood sugar levels high & making them insulin resistant…
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Carbohydrates are addictive and cheap. Protein costs more and the anti meat people are trying to keep humans from consuming animal protein. Simple.
In the end it is very simple… calories in versus calories out. Not all calories are equal, that is true.
It is addiction to fast, cheap, low nutrition foods, and dependance, from an early age, on TV and video games ( rather than socializing, playing outdoors) that are sedentary.
What we need to do is educate children on how to cook a healthy meal from.scratch . The need .to reintroduce cooking skills in secondary schools. The response we are in this situation is we a medicalising people making poor choices. I lived for a few years with people who were overweight, they always ate more than me.
What happended to health promotion ,what is NHS England doing... That's the real question!
The problem is the definition of healthy. What we are told is healthy is not necessary the case.
I’m sorry - can someone explain to me, if this all came down to genetics why was there hardly any obesity before 1965? Didn’t we have genetic influences before then? I prefer the hypothesis that the rise in process food consumption, distribution and advertising coupled with massive excessive carbohydrate intake has something more to do with it. Cut the carbs right out (they are not an essential macronutrient) and diabetes and obesity can be controlled. There are so many scientists and Drs advocating this approach now. Processed carbohydrate foods are addictive. Real food (meat, fish, poultry, vegetables) are not.
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Has the DNA of the people of UK changed recently? It's not the DNA, but the food habits that has changed. The high carb diets, the Big pharma cos and the Big Food companies are responsible for this epidemic. The people who lays down dietary guidelines with conflict of interest in job and paid by the Pharma and food cos are responsible for the disaster
I live in Southport and there is more squabbling over cycle and bike lanes than obesity. We want to exercise and are told cars rule.
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To stay fit all you have to do is to cook all meals at home and stay off restaurants and the process food. Also include half hour walk twice a day.
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We need to cut back on fast food chains all over and get the options lowered because its an addiction and people don't want to go back we have opened the Pandora box of fried chicken and coke etc and now we don't want to go back. Its not all genetics that's a cop out. It has some effects but nobody is fat in a famine come on now. Action now chatting about what needs to be done. Same as politicians just talk about options not action. Genetics is rubbish who's fat in a famine ? And let's face it some can sort it and have control and self discipline and then you get the ones who can't including the woman saying its genetics she's one who can't.also not a disease its addiction and lack of self control and discipline
Just count on yourselves rather than rely on your GP in this matter cause loosing weight is not very difficult - just eat less and move more and I know what I am talking about. I lost 50 kilos in two years by doing so - from struggling to walk 5 miles to running this distance every single day.
i can't believe so-called "experts" blame genetics for why obesity runs in families. Families are obese because they usually share similar habits and lifestyles. Genetics might be the reason why one woman is 130lb and another 180lb woman - but it is not going to explain why a person is +300lb. That weight you can only achieve through perseverance and dedication - dedication to eating and sitting down.
One of the biggest problems I see is that yo-yo dieting through terrible organisations (promoted by the NHS) does not educate people. Take for example Slimming World where food is moralised into syns and exercise is portrayed as bad. Nobody is actually educating people on calories, TDEE, nutrient-dense foods or helping them understand energy balance. Once you start to realise that calories really matter and that weighing food is essential to kick start that knowledge, that's when progress is made. Intuitive eating is all well and good, if you have learned to recognise the body's cues. It's a multi-faceted problem driven by many factors. Subsidising sport and fruit and veg would be a great way to start but the Government needs to realise that by removing PE from curriculums and selling playing fields they have exacerbated this problem. When you compare the amount of sports kids from private schools do Vs kids from state schools, it's staggering. All of these small changes contribute over time. Although we must acknowledge that exercise is NOT a good way to lose weight.
And a healthy diet and manageable lifestyle does not have to cost a lot of money and healthy food can be tasty
It wont end until the Government acts because the NHS is overwhelmed with the cost implications of the multiple-issues because of obesity. In the same way that the NHS was spending millions on smoking-related diseases..now rather under control.
Think that being overweight will effect, all joints and muscles; hearts; immunities and diabetes.. a massive cost.
As a Spaniard, the first impression of a British supermarket is the long aisles of microwave meals and the longer aisles of snacks and sweets. Fresh ingredients are tucked somewhere at very expensive prices. It is quite a shock
(14:57) “We need to make sure the GPs have the equipment and the knowledge…” was the best statement made. If only the GPs in question knew the benefits of combining a 16:8 Time Restricted or Intermittent Fasting schedule with a high-fat, high-protein, low-to-zero carbohydrate intake diet, their patients would lose a significant amount of weight, reverse their disease(s) and enjoy extended longevity as well as saving money. When you only eat once or possibly twice daily with satiating (filling) meats, eggs, fish and fats, it’s amazing how wonderful they will feel! Please give each of your patients CGMs (Continuous Glucose Monitors) and help them understand which foods cause insulin spikes and which help to lower their blood glucose readings. That’s how you’re going to conquer this Monster. #MeatHeals
your GP will have to go back to school to become weight loss coaches and dieticians, they can advice you to lose weight but as to how is not their area of expertise... doctors don't fix everything
You are totally right. I really think, the purpose of this film is to benefit food and/or pharmaceutic companies by clouding the real issues behind obesity, not to improve the nation's health by helping people to eat better.
Or just intermittent fasting. Period. Oh, and watching how much food you eat in the eating window; then any diet works.
my GP had not heard of such a diet!