Dunlop Trailmax Raid Tyres - Almost 4000 miles later, what do I think?
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- čas přidán 5. 08. 2024
- The Dunlop Trailmax Raid sits slap bang in the middle of their Premium Adventure Tyre range and offers a true 50/50 performance. These high silica content tyres promise good tarmac performance in both dry and wet conditions as well as enhanced grip and stability off-road. I've covered almost 4000 miles on them since the summer of 2023, so how did I get on and how do the Raid tyres perform. Are they a perfect all-round adventure travel tyre?
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00:00 - Introduction
01:08 - Road
04:28 - Gravel
06:06 - Mud
07:05 - Are they a good all-round adventure tyre?
08:06 - Long Term Conclusions & Pricing - Auta a dopravní prostředky
**There is a typo on the pricing graphic, it should of course say 2024 not 2022!
Yup, like this format better. No distractions from the information
Thanks for the great review, I’m off to Morocco in April and have been watching every RAID review, looks like I’ll be trying these,Thanks
Another really helpful review, thank you 👍
No problem
Great review there Tony. Ride safe.
Just bought new dream machine and as a part of deal they gave me set of these tires, first have to wear out OEMs but then should be blast.... keep up good work, cheers V!
Thanks Tony, everything I wanted/needed to know about these tyres.
No problem
Perfect format Tony for a product like a tyre. Thank you
Thanks for the feedback
Perfect info,thks.
Great review Tony, thanks.👍
No problem 👍
Thank you for the review. Hope I'll remember these by the time I got to change my tiers on the Africa.
Great video thanks for the update as I did purchase a set after your last video so interesting to see as I will be doing some touring in Europe this year 2024
Glad to help
Really good video, really answered my questions, I will try a set of these tires.
Glad I could help
Loving my Raids on my 990 in deep sand, rocky uphills and curvy canyon roads
Great vid, thanks
No problem 👍
Just put a set on my Tiger 1200 yesterday. Hope they perform as well on a slightly heavier bike. Started scrubbing them in yesterday and they are quieter than I expected. Take care!
Excellent review of your experience with those tires.
Thanks! 👍
The inset video at 1:35 made me chuckle, but I don’t know how else you could have described it 😆. Count me as one who enjoyed this format of review 👍! Keep them coming 😃!
I couldnt resist it
Thx for the review and your impressions. I bought one for the fron of DL650 (110/80R19) also based on this review. So far approx 1000km and they are almost as good on tarmac as my previous TKC70 and much better offroad. However, I have to point one thing - they need like 100km to scrub the slick layer. It scared a sh*t out of me during the first few kilometers and I was almost rethinking my choices - I had a feeling of loosing the front in almost every corner. I haven't had this feeling w. new TKC70. But after like 100kms the "run-away" feeling disappeared and the rubber holds just fine.
I appreciate the review.
I've seen one other long(ish) term review, at 8000 miles. He had a KTM 890 and the Raids were at the fail profile height point. Right down to the wear bars. His use was nearly all off paved roads.
I wanted something a bit more aggressive that the Mission's I was running. I have to ride quite a way on highway to get to the trails I want to ride. The Missions sux in deep sand/deep mud. You have to get going too fast before mud casts off. The Raids should clear better, with the bigger spaces, but I was glad to hear they were alright on pavement.
I have these same tires on my Africa Twin and I agree with absolutely everything said either! I found them to produce a little more noise than my Karoo but otherwise he is spot on.
I have these on and fully agree with your review, good job!
How many miles did you get from the rear? What bike have you them on and what are they like in the wet tarmac ? :)
@@markworthington1710 1.5k km so far on my T7, they look and feel good as new. These are amazing: just a bit stiff and noisy on the road if you compare with the (also amazing, as far as I’m concerned) STR Rally. Weirdly, noise comes into play after 1k km only. I’m overly cautions on wet road but they feel good and solid.
@@shutupandance thanks for you response on then so far! My super bikes that loud I’m hoping not hoping not to hear the tyres 😂 I have a set of STR’s in the garage to try as well but haven’t put them on yet and they’re too soft to do a 5k mile trip sadly
Excellent review Tony, like the format too. I pretty much agree with everything you said, my regular riding is the grey lanes of West Sussex and Hampshire, and my regular trips to Ireland, they are a fab tyre for this. Great in the wet too..i actually like riding in the rain and have total confidence in the Raid's. One surface they don't like, and i don't like and NO tyre likes is wet chalk!!, which you come across here in the South Downs...cheers Steve
Cheers Steve, yep they were a more friendly tyre than I was expecting.
Great review Tony. I’ve just specced 9:44 these for my new 24 Tiger Rally Pro 900. Hopefully they’ll perform very well. Thank you👍
Good luck!
I really like this style of video. Allows you to focus better on all important details about the products you review
Glad you liked it!
Great review thank you. They sound very very similar to the Mitas E07+ in how they perform. Exactly what you were saying about narrow rural lanes, a 50/50 tyre is less of a twisty champ but its great on dirty dodgy surfaces. If you ride in rural areas a lot these would do well by the sounds of it.
Thanks for watching!
Thanks for the review. I’ve been running the Missions on my Tiger 900 up here in Idaho. Dry mostly with sections of the 1” gravel that just sucks! I have zero feel from my front tire and it’s not really enjoyable. I’m hoping the Raids will give me a bit more confidence. On the pavement they’re fine. I don’t notice much noise. But being an old man I ride like one and my chicken strips are pretty wide. Thanks again
Cheers Bob, and thanks for the feedback. Don't worry about the chicken strips, there no indication of how good a rider you are 👍
This format works well for tyre reviews. I've been working through your various tyre reviews and think I'll opt for Meridians on my 790 Adventure to replace Anakee Adventures which have maybe another 1,000 miles in them.
Thanks for the feedback, I loved the meridians on my 790 Adventure, bloody good tyre as long as you stick to tarmac and dry stone/gravel
I concur with your review.
These work as well as you would ever need, in all conditions that you would be using a 400 lb adventure bike for. They grip as well as you wou need on road, with a little noise, and made my KTM 790 adv safe off road, especially in slick conditions. Considering it’s not a dirt bike. They clog up in deeper muck, but still pull the bike along. Which is not the conditions I expect to be riding in much anyway.
Thanks, yep i think they do exactly what a 50/50 tyre should
I've got these fitted on my Tiger Rally Pro which does a bit of easy off road, nothing in the real mud. Like you, I ride in the south east of England, and these tyres cannot cope with clay at my skill level. Better rides would get more out of them but a mud slick is a great talent leveller. I am just putting a set on my 701 for which I have 2 sets of wheels. I like using 50/50 tyres in the summer as they are a bit unpredictable and make summer green lane riding in the dry a bit more challenging. In the wet and mud my 701 is on Michelin Trackers but I'd choose these Dunlops for a big, dry trip or for a trip like the Nordic TET which is 95% gravel or tarmac. I wasted a set of Anakee Wilds on the Nordic TET. These would have been a lot more pleasant and long lasting.
I have the MIssions on my Tiger 900RP...and my next ones will be the Raids. I'm going from San Diego, ,down to La Paz, Baja and back soon. Probably will keep the MIssions on and then go to the Raids later.
Keep it short and Sweet. No one like blah blah blah. Thanks for the Info, Kiaora. Stay upright.
Interesting information, thanks.
Since the TrailMax Mission is their 50/50 tire; I think these are 40/60. ✌🏻
Dunlop UK consider it the other way around. The Trail a true 50/50, the mission more 60/40
What section is the rear tyre, please? They look good. A possibility for my SCR950 when I wear out the originals. The lack of longevity is the only drawback. The Missions sound better for me, perhaps.
Good review, Tony and you answered my question at the end. The rear is a 150. Nick
Nice that you like these tyres, however Dunlop is a channel partner I believe so you probably aren't going to say too much in criticism about them.🤷
Then you'd be wrong, i'm always open and honest about all items I review
It’s a great tire, I switched from the missions because of the grip in the rain
I’m wanting to swap from the missions too as they’re awful in the wet! How have you found these? Miles covered so far? What bike are they fitted on? :)
Good vid and presentation. May do a set on my BMW R9T UGS. Lot of hard pak gravel
Cheers, I genuinely think these offer all you need from a 50/50 tyre
@@mancavemoto pricey about 400 plus a set from Revzilla. Look good tires are most everything
Loved the review dude🤙🏻
Question; how did you get your tyres with the yellow lettering around them? That looks nice! 🛞
Cheers, they’re tyre stickers that you can get from Dunlop dealers, or Dunlop directly. Check out there page on Instagram as the do giveaways each week I believe?
Thanks for good review. How do they run on sand country/forest roads? How on the grass at short distance, often required to pass through?
Thanks, pretty good, I don’t have much sandy soil but it coped with Thetford Forest OK. Grass is fine, wet grass is tricky for most tyres. But again if you’re careful these work fine
Great 👍 review mate , I’m from Australia and are running the Trailmax Missions , BUT the rear is 11.5 mm depth and front only 8.5mm ( so they wear about the same time ) I ride enduro bikes and ADV , and have been for some years in Australian bush , desert and high Country. So I have developed a tyre choice for my Enduro/ Dual /sport , So D606 rear and Pirelli M21 rallycross front “ after years of using Motoz , Golden-tyres, and others ( the Dunlop last also as long and half the price( and traction in ALL conditions are very similar. And M21 is a freak of nature and does everything fantastic ( in my opinion ) and last at least twice as long . Anyway on my Big ADV I’m going to Try the Trailmax raid front . As it looks like will fulfil my requirements as lasting twice as long as rear Trailmax mission . How many km have you got out of front and how many do you think you will get ?
Regards
Paul .
I've added roughly another 1000 miles since the video and theres still plenty of life in them. I reckon another 2k should be ok?
Great review as always. Quick question that ive never seen asked maybe because its daft but how does a 50/50 affect MPG ?
Cheers, in reality it should have negligible effect, there’s little extra rolling resistance
@mancavemoto to be fair, it's an good question about mpg! How about the weight of the tyres? Mitas e07 are a very heavy tyre compared to a 90/10 road tyre! I believe its as much as 10kgs from a light road tyre, to a heavy 50/50 tyre! More noticeable leaning into a corner! So much can change mpg, tyre choice, psi, extras....panniers..lights, crash bars etc! Style of riding! E5 over e10 fuel! Never use e10!!!!!!!!!!!!!!❤
I'm running the Missions on my Pan America, not noisy.
do you still have your interceptor good sir? and how is it treating you?
I do and there’s a update video coming soon!
how do i get a set with the yellow decals?
The decals are supplied seperately, you should be able to get some from your local dealer?
It does appeal as a touring bike, however, the screen adjustment is a problem for me, sometimes you just want to lower the screen as you enter villages etc and then up the screen as you enter nationals etc, it doesn’t have to be electric, a clasp would do it, similar to the on the new Triumph 1200 Explorer for example. I am surprised at Honda to make a basic mistake on a touring bike!
Interested in how the new Mitas Trail + compare...
I’ve never used them
All tyres are compromises. But these look good. Yiu have to be honest about what you need, and for me a 70/30 fits, although I prefer the look of those.
Ride safe 👍
Totally agree
how they handle sport tarmac driving with high angle?
Obviously some compromise versus a pure road tyre, but much grippier than I was expecting and they are confidence inspiring. I didn’t find them sketchy, but with any tyre like this I would be going too far over on wet tarmac
I have same tires on my AT. It is great tiers, but I am not impressed about performance on wet. Almost kill me few times! That is a problem for me because in my country we have lots of rain.
Wet Tarmac or wet dirt/mud? You can't ride them like a road tyre in the wet, nearly but not quite, and be careful with the tyre pressure
Let me ask.. would buy another set or will get something different??
Yes I’ll be replacing these with another set
@@mancavemoto well I thank you for your review.. no one has said anything about the mileage.. quite expensive here in the US been a little hesitant on purchasing a set until I seen the mileage people are getting..thanks again..stay safe and keep it shiny side up
what is the best adventure tire for road and dirt in your opinion?
I guess that depends on how much road and how much off road. I’ve been impressed with the Raids and I’ll definitely fit them again
@@mancavemoto On hwy to get to the dirt , how did they do?
Feb '22 prices ???
Good spot, that’s a typo and should say 2024!
I have trailamax mission and on wet is really bad rubber, always traction control saves me, abs even in light wet floor is there. for the price a bad rubber
The missions are awful in the wet!
@@markworthington1710 i know pal…no morr
Anakee wild or trailmax?
I've only ridden the Anakee wild for short periods when theyve been fitted to press bikes. My initial impression is that the Raids are better oon the road, and the Wilds better when things get a bit muddy off road?
Thanks mate. Prefer this format to the talking helmet stuff.
So front rear Miles total and rear miles total please 🙏. I’m in Australia, we use Km but I will do the conversation.
Thanks
Paul
I'm over 6500km with this set at the moment
@@mancavemotothanks, I got around 12000 kms rear on Trailmax mission front and rear , ( just your front what kms do you think you will get ) as I may try the raid front next time .
you won't get the same mileage as the missions, i changed front and rear with around 7500km of use, largely on tarmac
@@mancavemoto ok 👍 thanks , I may look at using the TCK 80 front or the Motoz Dual venture next time with the Trailmax mission rear .
These or karoo 4 🤔
I’ve only had a little time on Karoo 4’s and I found them a little more ‘buzzy’ on tarmac, but they are a decent tyre
Prefer this format for this type of review
Anyone experiencing speed wobbles with these at about 90mph ?
Not me
@@mancavemoto thanks
My CB500X gets twitchy if you go much over 75 mph.
@Thirsty_Fox Hi from NZ
cb500x 2022 Owner
Do you find the Raid's somewhat noisy? Have heard the Raid is noisier on a 19" 110 front, than an 21" 90
Am I the only one who has found this tire to be super noisy? Starting at 39 mph it has a loud howling. It goes away at 48mph and appears again at 70 mph..... they also wear fast... i am looking somewhere else for my next tire. After 2,000 miles you probably are off with a 70/30 profile tire. I just cannot recommend them.
Interesting, as the first thing I pointed out was the lack of noise. They were quieter than the stock Karoo Streets!
@@mancavemoto i may have gotten a bad rear tire. I only know of a couple of people with the same issue. One rides a tenere 700 and cb500x and I ride a vstrom 800 de.
Did you watch the video before commenting?
@trailrider1980 Cool, I wasn’t disputing your comment it was just very different from my experience.
@@alrightdave6135 yes, i did watch the whole video, you just have not heard my tires. I dont think these tires are that great. Going with mitas e07 next. Believe me I was very disappointed. At first i thought it was my set up so took it to the shop and tried to correct and double check many things. I was never able to correct the loud howling as I mentioned above.
I’ve really rated your helmet reviews but have to say I’m not convinced you’ve done much / any real off road on these tyres. Nothing on the vid was anything approaching a typical green lane. Could you hand on heart say you’ve done enough miles and ridden in sufficiently challenging conditions to be able to review off road ability? I’m interested in these but need to be sure they will work on wet muddy Uk green lanes.
If you’ve based that statement on the footage in this video then i hope you realise that I’ve not filmed every mile I’ve covered! I’m not an expert off roader, but I have ridden in enough muddy green lanes to know that these may struggle. Maybe a lighter bike would make them more effective, but for me they are maybe not aggressive enough for anything deeper than a few inches. Interestingly though they are now standard fit on the bikes at the Honda adventure centre
This guys comment is about a duchebag as it gets.
@@ck166666 agree with you. Classifying into gravel and mud is not indicative of extended off road riding.
@@ck166666 maybe you should do it your fuckin self ey?
@devinhelgeson These are a 50/50 tyre designed for big adventure bikes, they are not enduro tyres.