It breaks my heart , because they both are so broken that you can feel their pain, but can't stop watching this scene because Sara and Jessica are so great in it, and it is just worth it. At least they are in the mend right now.
Arizona cheated but callie has a child with mark and if that character had not died she would have cheated on arizona for sure because after all he was her sex buddy. callie tries to dominate arizona and that's not good. And after this scene she insults arizona in front of the whole fraternity.....that is surely worst than cheating.
The way Callie says "How could you do this" is the most heart wrenching thing ever. The emotion is soo raw and real. In that moment you can see and hear just how broken Callie is. This makes me want to cuss Arizona out and I don't even cuss. How dare she blame Callie. How dare act like a victim.
I highly doubt Arizona and Callie will come back from this. What Arizona said was so horrible. Callie not only lost Mark, she had to put up with Arizona's depression for months. She had to deal with the fact that Arizona kept blaming her for the leg. Even with all the crap Callie was put through, she never left Arizona. Just because she wasn't on the plane, doesn't mean she didn't suffer.
I just have to say Sara processed those emotions perfectly! I could write an epistle on every emotion she displayed in those few seconds. Callie is trying to process all Arizona is saying, you can see the confusion the hurt the pain and then in that last frame when she dropped her eyebrows u saw her anger. Her emotional check out. That final frame said "I am done"... Can't wait to see how season 10 plays out. This scene broke my heart for Callie everyone I watched it. I felt for her deeply.
I think Arizona in this particular scene, diverted the issue, from the "I-cheated-on-my-wife" to "you-cut-my-leg" part. Callie has no intention of cutting her leg. Callie even fought with Hunt to keep Arizona's leg from being amputated. Callie's reason for cutting Robbin's leg is justifiable. Its is her life (Arizona's) that was at stake at that time. I understand the hardships that Arizona have been through but cheating on her faithful and supportive wife will not be justifiable.
I just can't believe what I saw on this show. I'm still like shocked from all of this and I just can't beilieve anything. My head is spinning in so many directions honestly. I'm lost for words. Speechless.
For me this phrase: "Stick out your leg and I will go grab a bone saw and let’s even the score!" is the worst that Arizona said to Callie... And when Callie said:" Apparently, I lost you" ... worth it more than a leg!
Exactly! I love their story and what they've been through but if they're going to end like this, nothing has been worth it. I hate how emotionally attached Shonda gets us to the characters over 4 and a half seasons, then completely destroys it in a few episodes. It makes me feel stupid and dead inside.
Arizona shouts, “You want it? The street cred? The badge of honor? The warrior wound? Great. Stick out your leg and I’ll go grab a bone saw and let’s even the score.”
Im completely agree! this situation brings "salsa" on this relationship. I mean, i never thought that Shonda could put this couple on this situation. It's hard, painfull, horrible,confusing, crap, and everything!
Me too. I'm really looking forward to the next season. Arizona has to suffer, as Callie suffered all these seasons. She lost Mark, almost lost Arizona, suffered a car accident, was betrayed by George and the Arizona and was left by Erica. Arizona has to suffer a lot before Callie to forgive her, because I do not want them separated forever.
I can't stop watching that. This acting is emmyworthy! Capshaw's expression and Ramirez's face and the most devastating words "Apparently I lost you" I can feel her sadness and pain.
I don't understand how Shonda thinks she can blame this infidelity on Arizona's leg. Callie was faced with two options, have her wife/mother of her child live without a leg or die. I think if we were faced with this decision, it'd be clear. Arizona didn't consider Callie when she wanted kids, she left her and went to Africa, she's now cheated on her and has the balls to blame this on Callie? Callie lost her best friend, father of her child and her wife. If this comes down to teams, Team Callie.
I think that Shonda will have this break up (if they do, you never know what may happen) and use it to their advantage. Either way, we've been promised more Calzona screen time and I'm perfectly fine with that :D Oh and dude, you hit the nail on the head with that. I think they need to break up for a while too. :D
Same, I think Arizona has just completely snapped with all the ptsd. She never spoke about it, but this is not the way to solve it. Callie is suffering and Arizona is blinded, but I can see them using this to their advantage. Definitely something big will happen in season 10!
Arizona: I lost Mark, you almost died, YOU WEREN’T ON THE FREAKING PLANE! You wanted the street cred, the badge of honor, the warrior wounds. Then great! Stick out your leg and I will go grab a bone saw and let’s even the score!
This was brilliant. Jessica Capshaw acted so well this season, and if you paid attention at all to the progression Arizona was making this season, you saw something like this coming. She accepted that Callie was trying to save her life, but she never forgave Callie, and that kind of resentment doesn't just go away. It's not right because they're married, but it's justifiable, and it's both party's fault (much more Arizona's, but Callie did have a blind eye here). Now, can it be fixed?
Truly these minutes were losses. AZ is lost herself in his own bitterness and pain without measure their words were like daggers aimed at the heart of Callie. Callie is lost in astonishment and despair not understand what happened to Arizona.
I understand that all those words and feelings that AZ showed, she comes from the chapter bringing 9x03-04. After these chapters she again said nothing of what she felt, but she chose not to ease the relationship with Callie. All she keeps resentment is a Denture space can not fill. She says leg, I think it is the heart that she no longer has. AZ chose the easy way out is to blame the other for not taking charge of their own mistakes and chose the most hurtful words were not words, were knives.
? Has anyone who has commented know someone who has lost a limb as I have and jcap has done a great job in playing the part so well as has sara as the loving part trying to right their world
I hope so, this is all just a bad dream and when Callie wakes up....Arizona sleeping happily in her arms.....GA needs Calzona, to the air we breathe !!!
I so agree. Once Arizona said she'd go get a bone saw and even the score.....that would have been it for me. There's no going back after that. Too hurtful.
I find this entire situation completely interesting. I didn't until this scene. Now that I sit back there were so many subtle things all season. When Callie asked AZ "we're gonna have 2 sell Mark's place" she almost broke down then. She's been suppressing the whole season. Even when she told Derek he was egotistical it took PRYING
Arizona has sooo much anger bottled up and now she's venting, Callie stuck with her through everything and never blamed her for the car accident, this other women came between them but I hope they can work through this, Callie has been hurt in so many ways, I feel really bad for her she's lost so much.
All i can say is: really bad ass acting from Sara and Jessica! When Callie realizes that Arizona cheated on her...you could hear her heart breaking...and by "apparently i lost you"...puuuh....my heart was breaking....
This is deeper than "omg, i miss my leg". This is Arizona attempting to find herself again and she can't. She'd rather Callie have left her to die than make her half a person. It's a huge betrayal as far as Arizona can tell, and in some ways its a bit selfish of Arizona, but she's dealing with grief and PTSD that she's kept bottled up all season long, and this cheating incident is just a catalyst to let Arizona express her frustrations and anger. It just sucks that Callie was cheated on...again
I agree so much! When Arizona said Callie didn't understand, all she didn't understand was the plane crash experience. But she had to deal with saving Arizona's life while making a decision that she'd get blamed for forever, losing sex in "five months because of that damn leg", losing Mark (who, as you said, was basically her life and always was) & the one she chose to spend all of her life with. To cheat like that was more than cruel, and Arizona is just making excuses by bringing up the crash
He was her confident before and after Arizona appeared. Now, it was Arizona's turn to show her that she it´s more than just a wife, a real friend, and she failed. Both made mistakes. Callie too, i can´t deny that,but she has proved be a good man in a storm, more times than Az.
what great performances from these ladies....I saw this coming and I don't see it ending anytime soon into the new season. There is however, unfinished business between these two...There is so much love and angst written in to these characters. Whoever is writing for this pairing seems personally invested for whatever reason, and the acting is outstanding. Winning Combo, this is out of the park.
PART 2: Arizona: (screaming) YOU WEREN’T ON THE PLANE, CALLIE! You weren’t in the woods! You did not hear Meredith crying for Lexie, Mark moaning in pain or hear me scream in pain! You weren't there and you keep acting like you were but you weren’t. It wasn’t your experience. Callie: I lost Mark. You almost died!
If only Arizona could get over the leg issue and see what she has in front of her -, a loving, caring wife, a beautiful child and a wonderful family - and grow up a bit! Leave the other woman alone and concentrate on what's important. She's only going to want her because Arizona's unavailable. She only wants a fling.
sometimes unfold. Despite our best efforts, there are going to be instances when shit just won't work out. Sometimes things that took a lot of effort to build just fall apart. It's part of life's rich tapestry.
I understand that she did not have the same experience but that doesn't mean that she hasn't suffered her own emotional trauma that is fundamentally entwined with the plane crash, she said "we survived" not because she wants credit, which is what Arizona implied, but because their marriage, their relationship survived all of the emotional traumas that sprung from that crash, because they're meant to be a team but Arizona is very individual and doesn't understand the concept of a team imho.
Arizona's point is that Callie, this entire season, has essentially acted like she was on the plane. Look back over the season and you can see it. Even in this scene, Callie said that everything that "we survived ... the plane crash." Objectively, Callie didn't have to survive the plane crash because she wasn't on it. Subjectively, yes, she feels like she was there and she lost a lot because of it, but she did not have the same experience that Arizona, Mark, Meredith, Derek, and Cristina did
True that Az said she understood Callie is "bi" but that is really just what the writers have her saying. Being with men in the past doesn't change the fact that she has chosen to be a lesbian. And like she cried to Az, "We're married!!" So sad...
Think my heart just actually broke :'( Arizona-"you didn't lose anything!" (Pause) callie-"apparently I lost you" poor calzona :'( can't wait for next season to see how this turns out :'( gonna be a long wait :'(
So sad this last episode. I felt the pain. I could not believe A cheated on C and she loves C so much. Now, reading all the comments I realize that A needs help. She was bottling up her pain inside trying to be normal again, but nothing will ever be the same, because she experienced trauma! She cheated with the first person who acknowledged her one leg and looked past it. Callie for her, took away her womanhood, her beauty and the woman she slept with gave her back some dignity & control.
Arizona mocking Callie, "I lost Mark, you almost died, you weren't on the freakin plane." I think Arizona would have prefered that Callie was on it. I didn't see anything were Callie pretended she was there; she survived the plane crash meaning she had loved ones that died and almost died and the decisions that had to be made after, etc... That was down right cruel of Arizona and she will never stop blaming Callie. Callie needs to walk away, move on, and Arizona gets no parental rights.
She didn't blame her just because things are went ok. I do understand both of them. Az is still in stress and some sort of shock condition. She still can't understand the fact she could die because of leg and this amputation. It was so hard for Callie to say ''cut it off'' to leave Az alive and she did it. Az will understand it, just she needs more time. I expected such end of this episode. Want things to be ok again. S.Rhimes, you're great! Don't allow people to relax hah
we need to see a moment when arizon finally learn that technically callie didn't cup it, she trust alex on this and was to effraid to loose her, bc she is her love life, and it wasn't easy knowing that arizona didn't want this. and from there they will understand each others, and move on but arizona will have to fight to get her back, callie didn't deserve this
Lauracastlelover she said "you want the street cresds, the badge of honor, the warrior wounds, then stick out your legs and ill grab a bone saw and we'll even out the score!"
I must admit they deserve at least an Emmy, as splendid performance rarely seen on tv. This scene, like the bathroom in the 9x3 (I think), fill us all ever experience emotions until we see Sara and JCAP acting. They are wonderful actresses.
I'm so agree when you said: Az is a female versian of Mark...but she was like that BEFORE meet Callie, maybe she want to be like that again. Lauren woke up that feeling. It's just a suposition. XD
I, as all of you, are sadden about the storyline. But it does ring true, as to dealing with something so profound. I think the next season we will see (1) base on a previous episode when Arizona asked for papers saying the baby was hers. A custody battle. Also, (2) Arizona will discover that Karev cut off her leg not Callie. can't remember the episode, but right after Arizona discovered her leg was gone, Callie told not to tell her he did it. there are many story lines can be used.
i kept watching this over and over again cause Im still in shock and hasn't been properly received by my head. I mean, how could it be so tragic? My brain refuse to accept these twists that Shonda creates.
Shonda is extremely strategic, she knows what to do with these characters. First, keeping us the audience on edge, then acknowledging ptsd and its effects. She is also teaching us an important lesson, things might appear perfect on the surface but might be broken inside and it can take just one anomaly to set things on course. You can't just brush things under a rug, you have to deal with it. Arizona needs therapy, I think somehow we and Callie had forgotten her trauma, but she didn't.
After AZ revealing her residual anger that we haven't seen since episode 5.... I read the "I can't lose you" scene completely differently now. I see it as a non deceleration of love but a "my whole life is chaos/I have nothing left but you" a clinging on in a sense. From a setup stand point, I think they end up together. The whole situation is unfortunate
Still disturbed and (Windchaser) I'm with you on this. Maybe in a few days I'll cease being upset but at this point Arizona you doesn't deserve Callie and vice versa. I must admit I thought the scene would've been worse so I guess there is hope. My heart was in my mouth when Callie looked at the Scrubs. I was like oh sh*t.
Just mustered up the courage to watch this scene again, last night was way too much. All I have to say is, Arizona cheating is the LEAST of calzona's troubles. Arizona is still struggling with this leg loss, and this story this season for her is about coping and getting back on track. Yes she had amazing support from Callie, but she's not and can't get back to normal. The big problem here was obviously lack of communication and expression of true feelings.
PART 3: Arizona: I lost Mark, you almost died, YOU WEREN’T ON THE FREAKING PLANE! You wanted the street cred, the badge of honor, the warrior wounds. Then great! Stick out your leg and I will go grab a bone saw and let’s even the score! Callie: It always comes back to the leg. Arizona: I trusted you more than anything. More than anyone in my life and you decided to cut it off… Callie: TO SAVE YOUR LIFE! Arizona: YOU DIDN’T LOSE ANYTHING! I did. I did. Callie: Apparently, I lost you.
I don´t understand why people want to categorize a person just by sexual preferences...i mean, doesn't matter if Callie is bi,straight,lesb, or whatever...she is so in love of Az. doesn't matter if she was with a man or a woman, she is in love of one person. We can't categorize the love.
I didn't say that Callie didn't suffer on her own - I said the opposite. My point is that Arizona, still dealing with her own PTSD still has this anger towards Callie, something they both thought that they were past. You can see it here, initially Arizona sounds very apologetic for what happened, then Callie brings up the plane and Arizona explodes. Then Arizona says "oh!" and starts to sob. She didn't even realize she's still angry until that moment.
I know that Arizona was the one in the plane, that she was hurt, that she lost her leg, but Callie lost something too. She lost her best friend, her baby's father, she had to choose between her wife's live and her wife's leg. What was she supposed to do? Was she supposed to save the leg and let her wife die? I think she made the only choice she could make, the only rational choice, and she saved Arizona's life. I don't understand why Arizona doesn't see that. And yes, she can be hurt, but she -
- didn't have the right to cheat on Callie, after everything she's made for her, after that Callie was so patient and lovely with her, even when she treated like a crap with no reasons. So I'm sorry, but Arizona was the only one that made a mistake and her speech has absolutely no sense.
I have never been a huge fan of Arizona, but I have always loved Callie and this scene broke my heart. What Arizona done was Spiteful and hurtful and in my eyes totally unforgivable.
My problem isn't the fact that she cheated, people cope in hurtful ways sometimes. My big problem with AZ is that her leg seems to mean more to her than her family, her friends and her actual life. For someone who has actually experienced the impact of great loss she seems to still have very little concept of the value of the people around her. Putting Callie in the position of having to chose whether to save her life or her leg was unfair; she pretty much set Callie up to be the bad guy.
They need a break, Arizona needs to heal herself before she can try to heal theire mariage. I think pretty early in season 10 we will see that they still love each other and that moving on isnt that easy... They hit ground, Callie needs to walk away for a while, but they have to get back together. Even Shonda cant break up Calzona for good.
I think what everyone is failing to get out of this is that maybe Arizona would have preferred to die than to be without her leg. And THAT is a huge deal.
I'm all about this show and Revenge. It's going to suck having to wait so long for the next season. But, i guess now I have time to catch up on my anime. Callie buzzed through an entire deck of emotions in this scene. When her brows dropped I was thinking "well, the excrement has collided with the air rotation unit". I love Callie and Arizona as a couple, but I won't be horribly devastated if they don't stay together. Grey's has, in my opinion, realistically portrayed life events as they
Me too, I am a believer of Calzona as well...I think Callie could hook up with a man, but it is just an matter of time - they will find each other again...
Oh god.. I love Arizona and i love callie!! And I don't know i love the part if arizona says ''You don't are on the freaking plane'' I dont know i love this aprt! :$
People have to remember that Arizona has PTSD it doesn't go away over night. So for her to bring it up again and again is totally understandable. Like the way Cristina talked about the woods, it was prob just if not worse for az because she could move. It jacks what she did but she not a horrible person she had a horrible thing happen to her
Callie should show Arizona her file without telling her whose it is then ask her to make a call based on facts, then she will know the choice that Callie had to make. Callie's right, she lost Arizona from the moment that she woke up without a leg. If you look back through the episodes, Arizona hasnt been the same since the crash and Callie has been the punching bag ever since. I dont agree with whats happening but its a testament to the skill of these two actresses to play such in depth roles.
It's more than the leg. When it came down to cutting it or losing her callie needed to act like her wife and not her doctor. We are all different, but arizona (if you watch the car crash episode) wanted to save the baby even if it meant losing callie because thats what callie wanted and her being the person she is, she respected her wishes. I'm team calzona because this isn't over yet and i have hope for them, but in that moment callie wasn't the best wife according to arizona.
Callie is too classy for that. Remember when Izzie was all prepared for a fist fight in the cafeteria after Callie found out she was cheating with George? But she just wanted to talk....Callie has dignity and she does deserve better than "player" Arizona...In some of the fanfic Erica comes back to comfort Callie....
PTSD can really change yourlife. 35 years lives with 2 legs but in split second u lost 1. Imagine that!! Frustration, anger, betrayal, incompetent, useless, ashamed - building up bit by bit inside u, nuthin can stop it when it explode. Its common sense Az mad at Callie for choping off her leg. But if Callie really a good wife, she should know that Az have long gone. Az died et the moment she wakes up with 1 leg.
Sandra Oh announced that she will def. not be back after this season, if there is another season and I think Patrick Dempsey is only signed on for this next season. So I really will be surprised if this isn't the end of Grey's.
This is heartbreaking! Callie is so hurt that she can't even respond :'( Oh fuck, I feel so bad for Callie, she looks so broken, and when she says: "Apparently I lost you." in such a defeated voice I couldn't help but cry. She deserves so much better! She's been there for Arizona throughout it all, and all she gets in return is crap.
And to be honest, I would not want Callie back to be with a man. I prefer to have a time, a long transition time, to keep the grief of losing her wife, her marriage, and that will show more next to Sophia. Although it would not be wrong flirted with other people in the face of Az. Not for revenge, but to show that she continues.
"Apparently I lost you"
Callie broke my heart when she said that.
It breaks my heart , because they both are so broken that you can feel their pain, but can't stop watching this scene because Sara and Jessica are so great in it, and it is just worth it. At least they are in the mend right now.
If Callie lost a leg she would be like take the leg take whatever you want as long as I can see my family at the end of the day
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Their voices, their looks, their tears, everything was perfect. Everything absolutely everything was perfect in this scene. Applause for them.
Can't stop watching this scene :( it breaks my heart everytime but the acting from Jessica and Sara is just mind blowing :(
Arizona cheated but callie has a child with mark and if that character had not died she would have cheated on arizona for sure because after all he was her sex buddy.
callie tries to dominate arizona and that's not good. And after this scene she insults arizona in front of the whole fraternity.....that is surely worst than cheating.
And that my friend is TALENT! The acting from Jessica and Sara in this scene is amazing they both deserve an award!
The way Callie says "How could you do this" is the most heart wrenching thing ever. The emotion is soo raw and real. In that moment you can see and hear just how broken Callie is. This makes me want to cuss Arizona out and I don't even cuss. How dare she blame Callie. How dare act like a victim.
now we finally know what Arizona meant by I lost everything:her leg and their baby
I highly doubt Arizona and Callie will come back from this. What Arizona said was so horrible. Callie not only lost Mark, she had to put up with Arizona's depression for months. She had to deal with the fact that Arizona kept blaming her for the leg. Even with all the crap Callie was put through, she never left Arizona. Just because she wasn't on the plane, doesn't mean she didn't suffer.
I love this writing. Big ups Shonda, keeps me at my feet guesing
I just have to say Sara processed those emotions perfectly! I could write an epistle on every emotion she displayed in those few seconds. Callie is trying to process all Arizona is saying, you can see the confusion the hurt the pain and then in that last frame when she dropped her eyebrows u saw her anger. Her emotional check out. That final frame said "I am done"... Can't wait to see how season 10 plays out. This scene broke my heart for Callie everyone I watched it. I felt for her deeply.
I think Arizona in this particular scene, diverted the issue, from the "I-cheated-on-my-wife" to "you-cut-my-leg" part. Callie has no intention of cutting her leg. Callie even fought with Hunt to keep Arizona's leg from being amputated. Callie's reason for cutting Robbin's leg is justifiable. Its is her life (Arizona's) that was at stake at that time.
I understand the hardships that Arizona have been through but cheating on her faithful and supportive wife will not be justifiable.
I just can't believe what I saw on this show. I'm still like shocked from all of this and I just can't beilieve anything. My head is spinning in so many directions honestly. I'm lost for words. Speechless.
For me this phrase: "Stick out your leg and I will go grab a bone saw and let’s even the score!" is the worst that Arizona said to Callie...
And when Callie said:" Apparently, I lost you" ... worth it more than a leg!
OUCH!! That was really raw!! Thanks for uploading every week this season. Can't wait for S10 and for your brill uploads
Exactly! I love their story and what they've been through but if they're going to end like this, nothing has been worth it.
I hate how emotionally attached Shonda gets us to the characters over 4 and a half seasons, then completely destroys it in a few episodes.
It makes me feel stupid and dead inside.
Same😢
Arizona shouts, “You want it? The street cred? The badge of honor? The warrior wound? Great. Stick out your leg and I’ll go grab a bone saw and let’s even the score.”
Im completely agree! this situation brings "salsa" on this relationship. I mean, i never thought that Shonda could put this couple on this situation. It's hard, painfull, horrible,confusing, crap, and everything!
This is such a sad scene.. and the music is just.. *cry*
This scene keeps breaking my heart :(. Shonda Rhimes... you are such an evil genius. Super acting by Jess and Sara:)
Me too. I'm really looking forward to the next season. Arizona has to suffer, as Callie suffered all these seasons. She lost Mark, almost lost Arizona, suffered a car accident, was betrayed by George and the Arizona and was left by Erica. Arizona has to suffer a lot before Callie to forgive her, because I do not want them separated forever.
I can't stop watching that. This acting is emmyworthy!
Capshaw's expression and Ramirez's face and the most devastating words "Apparently I lost you" I can feel her sadness and pain.
I don't understand how Shonda thinks she can blame this infidelity on Arizona's leg.
Callie was faced with two options, have her wife/mother of her child live without a leg or die. I think if we were faced with this decision, it'd be clear.
Arizona didn't consider Callie when she wanted kids, she left her and went to Africa, she's now cheated on her and has the balls to blame this on Callie?
Callie lost her best friend, father of her child and her wife.
If this comes down to teams, Team Callie.
Amazing acting, jcap and Sara are amazing!
I think that Shonda will have this break up (if they do, you never know what may happen) and use it to their advantage.
Either way, we've been promised more Calzona screen time and I'm perfectly fine with that :D
Oh and dude, you hit the nail on the head with that. I think they need to break up for a while too. :D
Same, I think Arizona has just completely snapped with all the ptsd. She never spoke about it, but this is not the way to solve it.
Callie is suffering and Arizona is blinded, but I can see them using this to their advantage.
Definitely something big will happen in season 10!
Arizona: I lost Mark, you almost died, YOU WEREN’T ON THE FREAKING PLANE! You wanted the street cred, the badge of honor, the warrior wounds. Then great! Stick out your leg and I will go grab a bone saw and let’s even the score!
This was brilliant. Jessica Capshaw acted so well this season, and if you paid attention at all to the progression Arizona was making this season, you saw something like this coming. She accepted that Callie was trying to save her life, but she never forgave Callie, and that kind of resentment doesn't just go away. It's not right because they're married, but it's justifiable, and it's both party's fault (much more Arizona's, but Callie did have a blind eye here). Now, can it be fixed?
Truly these minutes were losses. AZ is lost herself in his own bitterness and pain without measure their words were like daggers aimed at the heart of Callie.
Callie is lost in astonishment and despair not understand what happened to Arizona.
I understand that all those words and feelings that AZ showed, she comes from the chapter bringing 9x03-04. After these chapters she again said nothing of what she felt, but she chose not to ease the relationship with Callie. All she keeps resentment is a Denture space can not fill. She says leg, I think it is the heart that she no longer has. AZ chose the easy way out is to blame the other for not taking charge of their own mistakes and chose the most hurtful words were not words, were knives.
? Has anyone who has commented know someone who has lost a limb as I have and jcap has done a great job in playing the part so well as has sara as the loving part trying to right their world
I hope so, this is all just a bad dream and when Callie wakes up....Arizona sleeping happily in her arms.....GA needs Calzona, to the air we breathe !!!
Thank you for posting. Can't wait for september. Or mayby i can, if they don't fix things.
JCap says they we're applauded for this scene by the crew and all. Well they did a great job. *hands down*
I so agree. Once Arizona said she'd go get a bone saw and even the score.....that would have been it for me. There's no going back after that. Too hurtful.
The song is Freight train - Sara Jackson Holman.
I find this entire situation completely interesting. I didn't until this scene. Now that I sit back there were so many subtle things all season. When Callie asked AZ "we're gonna have 2 sell Mark's place" she almost broke down then. She's been suppressing the whole season. Even when she told Derek he was egotistical it took PRYING
Arizona has sooo much anger bottled up and now she's venting, Callie stuck with her through everything and never blamed her for the car accident, this other women came between them but I hope they can work through this, Callie has been hurt in so many ways, I feel really bad for her she's lost so much.
All i can say is: really bad ass acting from Sara and Jessica!
When Callie realizes that Arizona cheated on her...you could hear her heart breaking...and by "apparently i lost you"...puuuh....my heart was breaking....
This is deeper than "omg, i miss my leg". This is Arizona attempting to find herself again and she can't. She'd rather Callie have left her to die than make her half a person. It's a huge betrayal as far as Arizona can tell, and in some ways its a bit selfish of Arizona, but she's dealing with grief and PTSD that she's kept bottled up all season long, and this cheating incident is just a catalyst to let Arizona express her frustrations and anger. It just sucks that Callie was cheated on...again
Perfectly said, you have to keep your characters alive and your audience engaged.
"apparently I lost you" broke my heart!
I agree so much! When Arizona said Callie didn't understand, all she didn't understand was the plane crash experience. But she had to deal with saving Arizona's life while making a decision that she'd get blamed for forever, losing sex in "five months because of that damn leg", losing Mark (who, as you said, was basically her life and always was) & the one she chose to spend all of her life with. To cheat like that was more than cruel, and Arizona is just making excuses by bringing up the crash
He was her confident before and after Arizona appeared. Now, it was Arizona's turn to show her that she it´s more than just a wife, a real friend, and she failed. Both made mistakes.
Callie too, i can´t deny that,but she has proved be a good man in a storm, more times than Az.
What a performance by Jessica Capshaw.
what great performances from these ladies....I saw this coming and I don't see it ending anytime soon into the new season. There is however, unfinished business between these two...There is so much love and angst written in to these characters. Whoever is writing for this pairing seems personally invested for whatever reason, and the acting is outstanding. Winning Combo, this is out of the park.
PART 2:
Arizona: (screaming) YOU WEREN’T ON THE PLANE, CALLIE! You weren’t in the woods! You did not hear Meredith crying for Lexie, Mark moaning in pain or hear me scream in pain! You weren't there and you keep acting like you were but you weren’t. It wasn’t your experience.
Callie: I lost Mark. You almost died!
If only Arizona could get over the leg issue and see what she has in front of her -, a loving, caring wife, a beautiful child and a wonderful family - and grow up a bit! Leave the other woman alone and concentrate on what's important. She's only going to want her because Arizona's unavailable. She only wants a fling.
sometimes unfold. Despite our best efforts, there are going to be instances when shit just won't work out. Sometimes things that took a lot of effort to build just fall apart.
It's part of life's rich tapestry.
Soo sad!! I can't get over that last line "Apparently, I lost you."
I understand that she did not have the same experience but that doesn't mean that she hasn't suffered her own emotional trauma that is fundamentally entwined with the plane crash, she said "we survived" not because she wants credit, which is what Arizona implied, but because their marriage, their relationship survived all of the emotional traumas that sprung from that crash, because they're meant to be a team but Arizona is very individual and doesn't understand the concept of a team imho.
Arizona's point is that Callie, this entire season, has essentially acted like she was on the plane. Look back over the season and you can see it. Even in this scene, Callie said that everything that "we survived ... the plane crash." Objectively, Callie didn't have to survive the plane crash because she wasn't on it. Subjectively, yes, she feels like she was there and she lost a lot because of it, but she did not have the same experience that Arizona, Mark, Meredith, Derek, and Cristina did
WOW!!
I'm speechless.
True that Az said she understood Callie is "bi" but that is really just what the writers have her saying. Being with men in the past doesn't change the fact that she has chosen to be a lesbian. And like she cried to Az, "We're married!!" So sad...
Think my heart just actually broke :'( Arizona-"you didn't lose anything!" (Pause) callie-"apparently I lost you" poor calzona :'( can't wait for next season to see how this turns out :'( gonna be a long wait :'(
So sad this last episode. I felt the pain. I could not believe A cheated on C and she loves C so much. Now, reading all the comments I realize that A needs help. She was bottling up her pain inside trying to be normal again, but nothing will ever be the same, because she experienced trauma! She cheated with the first person who acknowledged her one leg and looked past it. Callie for her, took away her womanhood, her beauty and the woman she slept with gave her back some dignity & control.
Arizona mocking Callie, "I lost Mark, you almost died, you weren't on the freakin plane." I think Arizona would have prefered that Callie was on it. I didn't see anything were Callie pretended she was there; she survived the plane crash meaning she had loved ones that died and almost died and the decisions that had to be made after, etc...
That was down right cruel of Arizona and she will never stop blaming Callie. Callie needs to walk away, move on, and Arizona gets no parental rights.
She didn't blame her just because things are went ok. I do understand both of them. Az is still in stress and some sort of shock condition. She still can't understand the fact she could die because of leg and this amputation. It was so hard for Callie to say ''cut it off'' to leave Az alive and she did it. Az will understand it, just she needs more time. I expected such end of this episode. Want things to be ok again. S.Rhimes, you're great! Don't allow people to relax hah
callie's face just kills me!
we need to see a moment when arizon finally learn that technically callie didn't cup it, she trust alex on this and was to effraid to loose her, bc she is her love life, and it wasn't easy knowing that arizona didn't want this.
and from there they will understand each others, and move on
but arizona will have to fight to get her back, callie didn't deserve this
Lauracastlelover she said "you want the street cresds, the badge of honor, the warrior wounds, then stick out your legs and ill grab a bone saw and we'll even out the score!"
I must admit they deserve at least an Emmy, as splendid performance rarely seen on tv. This scene, like the bathroom in the 9x3 (I think), fill us all ever experience emotions until we see Sara and JCAP acting. They are wonderful actresses.
I'm so agree when you said: Az is a female versian of Mark...but she was like that BEFORE meet Callie, maybe she want to be like that again. Lauren woke up that feeling. It's just a suposition. XD
I can't wait to see if Callie and Arizona will be together, and if not will they be able to find there way back to each other.
I, as all of you, are sadden about the storyline. But it does ring true, as to dealing with something so profound. I think the next season we will see (1) base on a previous episode when Arizona asked for papers saying the baby was hers. A custody battle. Also, (2) Arizona will discover that Karev cut off her leg not Callie. can't remember the episode, but right after Arizona discovered her leg was gone, Callie told not to tell her he did it. there are many story lines can be used.
i kept watching this over and over again cause Im still in shock and hasn't been properly received by my head. I mean, how could it be so tragic? My brain refuse to accept these twists that Shonda creates.
My heart have been broken whenever I see Caliie cried, Arizona will regret about this
Shonda is extremely strategic, she knows what to do with these characters. First, keeping us the audience on edge, then acknowledging ptsd and its effects. She is also teaching us an important lesson, things might appear perfect on the surface but might be broken inside and it can take just one anomaly to set things on course. You can't just brush things under a rug, you have to deal with it. Arizona needs therapy, I think somehow we and Callie had forgotten her trauma, but she didn't.
After AZ revealing her residual anger that we haven't seen since episode 5.... I read the "I can't lose you" scene completely differently now. I see it as a non deceleration of love but a "my whole life is chaos/I have nothing left but you" a clinging on in a sense. From a setup stand point, I think they end up together. The whole situation is unfortunate
Still disturbed and (Windchaser) I'm with you on this. Maybe in a few days I'll cease being upset but at this point Arizona you doesn't deserve Callie and vice versa. I must admit I thought the scene would've been worse so I guess there is hope. My heart was in my mouth when Callie looked at the Scrubs. I was like oh sh*t.
Just mustered up the courage to watch this scene again, last night was way too much. All I have to say is, Arizona cheating is the LEAST of calzona's troubles. Arizona is still struggling with this leg loss, and this story this season for her is about coping and getting back on track. Yes she had amazing support from Callie, but she's not and can't get back to normal. The big problem here was obviously lack of communication and expression of true feelings.
PART 3:
Arizona: I lost Mark, you almost died, YOU WEREN’T ON THE FREAKING PLANE! You wanted the street cred, the badge of honor, the warrior wounds. Then great! Stick out your leg and I will go grab a bone saw and let’s even the score!
Callie: It always comes back to the leg.
Arizona: I trusted you more than anything. More than anyone in my life and you decided to cut it off…
Callie: TO SAVE YOUR LIFE!
Arizona: YOU DIDN’T LOSE ANYTHING! I did. I did.
Callie: Apparently, I lost you.
In a way, Arizona is right. Callie keeps acting like she was on the plane but then again it doesn't give her an excuse to cheat on her wife
I don´t understand why people want to categorize a person just by sexual preferences...i mean, doesn't matter if Callie is bi,straight,lesb, or whatever...she is so in love of Az. doesn't matter if she was with a man or a woman, she is in love of one person.
We can't categorize the love.
I fucking can't wait for season 10. . We're all've been waiting for months. .
I didn't say that Callie didn't suffer on her own - I said the opposite. My point is that Arizona, still dealing with her own PTSD still has this anger towards Callie, something they both thought that they were past. You can see it here, initially Arizona sounds very apologetic for what happened, then Callie brings up the plane and Arizona explodes. Then Arizona says "oh!" and starts to sob. She didn't even realize she's still angry until that moment.
I know that Arizona was the one in the plane, that she was hurt, that she lost her leg, but Callie lost something too. She lost her best friend, her baby's father, she had to choose between her wife's live and her wife's leg. What was she supposed to do? Was she supposed to save the leg and let her wife die? I think she made the only choice she could make, the only rational choice, and she saved Arizona's life. I don't understand why Arizona doesn't see that. And yes, she can be hurt, but she -
- didn't have the right to cheat on Callie, after everything she's made for her, after that Callie was so patient and lovely with her, even when she treated like a crap with no reasons. So I'm sorry, but Arizona was the only one that made a mistake and her speech has absolutely no sense.
I have never been a huge fan of Arizona, but I have always loved Callie and this scene broke my heart. What Arizona done was Spiteful and hurtful and in my eyes totally unforgivable.
My problem isn't the fact that she cheated, people cope in hurtful ways sometimes. My big problem with AZ is that her leg seems to mean more to her than her family, her friends and her actual life. For someone who has actually experienced the impact of great loss she seems to still have very little concept of the value of the people around her. Putting Callie in the position of having to chose whether to save her life or her leg was unfair; she pretty much set Callie up to be the bad guy.
my heart crashed into pieces.....
They need a break, Arizona needs to heal herself before she can try to heal theire mariage. I think pretty early in season 10 we will see that they still love each other and that moving on isnt that easy... They hit ground, Callie needs to walk away for a while, but they have to get back together. Even Shonda cant break up Calzona for good.
I think what everyone is failing to get out of this is that maybe Arizona would have preferred to die than to be without her leg. And THAT is a huge deal.
I'm all about this show and Revenge. It's going to suck having to wait so long for the next season. But, i guess now I have time to catch up on my anime.
Callie buzzed through an entire deck of emotions in this scene. When her brows dropped I was thinking "well, the excrement has collided with the air rotation unit".
I love Callie and Arizona as a couple, but I won't be horribly devastated if they don't stay together. Grey's has, in my opinion, realistically portrayed life events as they
This is SO heartbreaking.
Me too, I am a believer of Calzona as well...I think Callie could hook up with a man, but it is just an matter of time - they will find each other again...
:(
i'm gonna keep the faith that they will find each other again
Oh god.. I love Arizona and i love callie!! And I don't know i love the part if arizona says ''You don't are on the freaking plane'' I dont know i love this aprt! :$
People have to remember that Arizona has PTSD it doesn't go away over night. So for her to bring it up again and again is totally understandable. Like the way Cristina talked about the woods, it was prob just if not worse for az because she could move. It jacks what she did but she not a horrible person she had a horrible thing happen to her
Well this is going to be the longest hiatus ever but great acting by both or them.
Callie should show Arizona her file without telling her whose it is then ask her to make a call based on facts, then she will know the choice that Callie had to make. Callie's right, she lost Arizona from the moment that she woke up without a leg. If you look back through the episodes, Arizona hasnt been the same since the crash and Callie has been the punching bag ever since. I dont agree with whats happening but its a testament to the skill of these two actresses to play such in depth roles.
It's more than the leg. When it came down to cutting it or losing her callie needed to act like her wife and not her doctor. We are all different, but arizona (if you watch the car crash episode) wanted to save the baby even if it meant losing callie because thats what callie wanted and her being the person she is, she respected her wishes. I'm team calzona because this isn't over yet and i have hope for them, but in that moment callie wasn't the best wife according to arizona.
Callie is too classy for that. Remember when Izzie was all prepared for a fist fight in the cafeteria after Callie found out she was cheating with George? But she just wanted to talk....Callie has dignity and she does deserve better than "player" Arizona...In some of the fanfic Erica comes back to comfort Callie....
PTSD can really change yourlife. 35 years lives with 2 legs but in split second u lost 1. Imagine that!! Frustration, anger, betrayal, incompetent, useless, ashamed - building up bit by bit inside u, nuthin can stop it when it explode. Its common sense Az mad at Callie for choping off her leg. But if Callie really a good wife, she should know that Az have long gone. Az died et the moment she wakes up with 1 leg.
Sandra Oh announced that she will def. not be back after this season, if there is another season and I think Patrick Dempsey is only signed on for this next season. So I really will be surprised if this isn't the end of Grey's.
Broken Calzona...I uh...please excuse me while I cry some more.... :'(
This is heartbreaking! Callie is so hurt that she can't even respond :'(
Oh fuck, I feel so bad for Callie, she looks so broken, and when she says: "Apparently I lost you." in such a defeated voice I couldn't help but cry.
She deserves so much better! She's been there for Arizona throughout it all, and all she gets in return is crap.
And to be honest, I would not want Callie back to be with a man. I prefer to have a time, a long transition time, to keep the grief of losing her wife, her marriage, and that will show more next to Sophia. Although it would not be wrong flirted with other people in the face of Az. Not for revenge, but to show that she continues.