Not only is the kit from Harrier absolute quality, the customer service is exceptional. Kate and her team are making ultra running kit accessible for all. I bought the ultra bundle and jacket recently and I am so impressed with the quality of the kit. Well thought out, well designed and very well made. Thanks for another great video, Loyd. Its a relief to actually already have the stuff you are reviewing for once rather than having to go out and buy it!!
I totally agree Steven, brilliant kit for the money! We are currently working on a fully bespoke Run4Adventure cap so hopefully we'll have them available soon. Really glad you enjoyed the video and thanks for watching channel 🙏😊
Nice….bought one and tested it on a 7 mile trail recce around Totley, Gillifield Wood & Holmesfield (yesterday 28th April 2024) - loaded with FRA bad weather gear. Loved it….not really aware of it which is fab 🤩
I thought that was an ace review - well done Loyd! I’ve got the original Kinder 10L and think it’s brilliant - loads of storage space and really good value.
Thanks very much, I'm glad you enjoyed the video. The original vest was really good but I think the latest version has been made even better. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏😊
Harrier are just brilliant and it’s great that they take on board feedback about their products to improve them. Love my original Curbar 5L and with bigger events in the pipeline, the Kinder 10l is definitely on my Wishlist. Hydration pack showdown sounds like a great idea!
Totally agree Kate, they make some great trail kit. The Kinder would definitely give you a lot more storage space. Keep your eyes peeled for a showdown video 😉 Thanks for watching and supporting the channel 🙏
Really glad you are enjoying your Harrier kit Gemma. It's really hard to beat it when it comes to value for money! Thanks for watching, I'm glad you enjoyed the video 🙏😊
Fantastic in depth review. I've just got my Kinder 10 and used it once in the Alps for a hike. Might be worth noting that other soft bottles do fit in the pockets, my Kalenji ones from my previous pack fit perfectly so at least I'm not wasting those. I am going to buy the bladder though as I like to have both options. Next outing is the Fairfield Horseshoe this weekend where I'm sure it will work perfectly!
Another informative review Loyd. I’m really impressed with the VFM that Harrier are able to offer with their kit. Would be interesting to see a running vest comparison with your best in category winner.
Well that was a very thorough review, not that I'd expect any less from you. Would love to see a showdown video of running packs, would be really useful I think.
I'm really glad you thought so, I always try and make our reviews as honest and as informative as possible. Keep your eyes peeled for our showdown video coming soon! Thanks for watching and supporting the channel 🙏😊
Great review mate, I've got a few bits from harrier and was surprised how good the quality is for the price. Would definitely like to see a hydration pack showdown video 😊👍🏻 thank you for the video
Thanks Lorinda, that's very kind and I'm glad you're enjoying the channel. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's really appreciated 🙏😊
Thanks Lorinda, that's very kind and I'm glad you're enjoying the channel. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's really appreciated 🙏😊
I’ve recently bought the Harrier waterproof jacket following your recommendation and I am so impressed by the quality and well thought out features of the jacket. From the looks of this test it may be time to replace my Inov-8 vest with the Harrier vest to match the jacket! ….. Would definitely like to see you do a ‘showdown’ best of the vests test! 👍
Sorry Lloyd, a very running CZcamsr question here 😅 Do the side pockets fit a go pro on a mini tri pod in there? The ones you mentioned that are now 9cm whereas on the previous version of the vest were 11.5
I'm just trying to get hold of one Paul and then it'll definitely feature in the showdown video 👍 Hope you're fit and well mate and thanks for watching 🙏
I'm looking for a 10 litre vest atm. I have the Salomon ADV 5 and the Salomon active skin 8 and think both are great (though haven't found a satisfactory way to store my poles on either). Would you suggest switching to Harrier or something else? I love the pole storage loops on the back of this one...
love mine! it took me through any weather, over any surface, and did take quite a beating. still going strong. will you also do a review of the new Curbar 5L, Loyd?
It's a great pack Ozenfant 👍 I wasn't planning on a Curbar 5l review but I'll see what I can do. Thanks for watching and supporting the channel its appreciated 🙏
Great review. I've had my Kinder 10 for a couple of months and I'm very pleased with it. In your review you showed 3 front pockets on each side, large mesh at the bottom, water bottle in the middle and a top zip/ fold down pocket at the top (depending on which side). There's an additional pocket behind those too. Also worth noting the vest takes bladders with a top tube out over the shoulders, as well as at the bottom. I'm slightly disappointed they've done away with the front pole mountings, the back position is hard to get at and the poles bounce a bit too much (probably my running style). That minor point aside, it's a comfortable vest, and great value like the rest of Harrier kit.
Thanks Jack, and yes it is a shame about the front holders. When we were making the new batch we couldn't get the correct components to have a decent front carry option. Before Xmas the world of manufacturing went a bit crazy and there were issues and delays all over the place. So we had to make the decision to leave them off. So im sorry about that, hope we can get it sorted again in future! Kate
@@harrier_trail_running Thanks Kate, I appreciate all the difficulties you had in the run up to Christmas! That minor issue aside I'm impressed with both the vest and the Exmoor/Dartmoor jacket. Good stuff!
It is a shame about the front pole system, I also prefer to have my poles on the front of my pack Jack. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏😊
Thanks very much, glad you enjoyed the video. Kate got back to you I see, not only great kit but awesome customer service as well 👍 Thanks for watching and supporting the channel its really appreciated 🙏
Thanks for the review Loyd! I've always wanted to test their waterproof jacket and now I am impressed with this vest. Sadly, Harrier still do NOT deliver to European countries... Always up for those showdowns thou :)
Ive got the Stanage vest and I wonder if the change in sizing means that it wont get an update. Looking at the other changes, the location of the zipped pocket was an issue for me too as was the the size of some of the stretchy pockets on the front. I also appreciate the tidying up of the zip pulls and other loops, now that Ive run in my vest a few times I'll be doing the same soon.
Hi Jon, to make things less confusing we have now made the Kinder in XL sizng up to 48" (that is equivalent to the old Stanage XXL). Same in the Curbar so more sizes available in both models and more colours :)
The update has definitely improved an already good running vest Jon, I think you'd like the updates 👍 Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏
Hi Loyd Any issues with getting Salomon bottles in the front pockets? The harrier bottles look quite a lot shorter so am slightly worried about the fit… thanks!
You'd definitely want Harrier bottles, they are specifically designed for the vest. You're right Salomon bottles are slimmer and longer, I'm not sure they'd work 🤔 Hope this helps and thanks for watching the channel Nick 🙏😊
Real shame about the loss of front pole carrying. Plus one for the showdown review. I wish more vests would have something on the back to clip a light to.
It is a shame but the back system does work well. There's normally somewhere to clip a light on most packs Chris, what pack do you use? Keep your eyes peeled for a running pack showdown video 😉 Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏
The issue I have is no bottles included, add in two bottles and it’s £80, a quick search online and you can get a Salomon Adv Skin 8 for for £80. Or an Ultimate Direction 10l for £100.
There you go, sounds like a pretty good deal to me! That is brilliant value for money 👍 Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏
We'll I'm glad you know know Marcus. They make some really well thought out trail running kit at amazingly good prices! 👍 Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏
@@Run4Adventure I've just ordered a Curbar beginners bundle as I am returning to endurance racing after a few years off. Keep up the fantastic work on your channel and good luck with going "fullt-ime"
Looks like the flasks are positioned a bit lower then on a lot of different brands what makes drinking from them while running a bit more uncomfortable or am I wrong at that?
They are definitely a bit lower than the current Salomon packs Bob but Harrier do make a long straw bottle if it is an issue. Hope this helps and thanks for watching the channel 🙏😊
It surprises me how a pack like this can be priced this competitively. Packs from other popular brands can be double the price of this yet is not double the quality. In fact there are some really thoughtful elements like the bungee cords at the back to tighten down the content when running light that I rarely see from other brands.
Thank you Mohamed! the main difference is that we only sell direct to customer so the usual 30% middle man / retailer cut is never taken. Plus we are only 3 people in the company. We do everything ourselves and use the odd freelancer so we keep costs right down. Different model to other brands but is working for us so far :) thanks a lot for your comments. Kate
@@harrier_trail_running Hi Kate. It's the quality of your products at this price point that stands you out. I've got my eye out on the Baslow waist pack when more come in stock.
The Harrier kit is brilliant value for money Mohamed 👍 Like Kate said, if you cut out the middle man it makes a big difference. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏
Thanks Alexandre, I'm glad you enjoyed the video 😊 I know of the Aonije pack but I haven't tried running with one. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏
I wanted to like this vest but I found this product very poor. If you rely on using a bladder in the back then avoid this vest. It bounces around and into the back no matter how tight the feeble elastic draw strings are pulled. The poor design will make this uncomfortable and unusable on long runs. A badly placed phone pocket which can’t take a large modern phone is sort of ok at this price and quality but a full hydration vest which can’t hold the bladder is pointless. There are far better designed and better quality hydration packs out there which can support front and back hydration options. Returns with Harrier was a nightmare too.
Sorry to hear that! I don't use a bladder in any of my hydration vest so I've not had any problems. Did you attach your bladder to the bladder loop in the vest to stop it sliding down? 🤔 This is the first negative feedback I've heard about the Harrier brand, I hope you got things sorted out in the end 👍
@@Run4AdventureI was surprised too. I have tended to run more solo and less reliant on aid stations or just out where there are few shops, so I like to carry lots of fluid. I did attach the bladder but the loop is not adjustable , also as there are not any tightening straps near the top and the vest and it is quite loose there ( unless fully packed), the bladder jumps around and bangs into my back. Some other brands have external secure adjustments which can be used, on the move, as the bladder shrinks, they can be tightened, if that makes sense? Also as there is no padding between the runner’s back and the vest, all movement is felt and I suspect the bladder will quickly warm up with body heat in spring/summer, which can be a problem with bladders. The vest would probably be better if it wasn’t sold as a bladder supporting vest. That is just my take on it though, and you appeared to have fun with it in your test run 😊. If you use it again I would be interested in your experience with the bladder.
Not only is the kit from Harrier absolute quality, the customer service is exceptional. Kate and her team are making ultra running kit accessible for all. I bought the ultra bundle and jacket recently and I am so impressed with the quality of the kit. Well thought out, well designed and very well made. Thanks for another great video, Loyd. Its a relief to actually already have the stuff you are reviewing for once rather than having to go out and buy it!!
Also, are you likely to be getting any caps in anytime soon?
Thank you Steven much appreciated! Kate
I totally agree Steven, brilliant kit for the money! We are currently working on a fully bespoke Run4Adventure cap so hopefully we'll have them available soon. Really glad you enjoyed the video and thanks for watching channel 🙏😊
Good evening Run4adventure and all the runners. Great and clear informative review. Here my like. A nice week for everyone.
Thanks Manuel 😊
Really glad you are enjoying the channel and thanks for all of the support! 🙏
Nice….bought one and tested it on a 7 mile trail recce around Totley, Gillifield Wood & Holmesfield (yesterday 28th April 2024) - loaded with FRA bad weather gear. Loved it….not really aware of it which is fab 🤩
I thought that was an ace review - well done Loyd! I’ve got the original Kinder 10L and think it’s brilliant - loads of storage space and really good value.
Thanks very much, I'm glad you enjoyed the video. The original vest was really good but I think the latest version has been made even better. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏😊
Harrier are just brilliant and it’s great that they take on board feedback about their products to improve them. Love my original Curbar 5L and with bigger events in the pipeline, the Kinder 10l is definitely on my Wishlist. Hydration pack showdown sounds like a great idea!
Totally agree Kate, they make some great trail kit. The Kinder would definitely give you a lot more storage space. Keep your eyes peeled for a showdown video 😉
Thanks for watching and supporting the channel 🙏
I've used Harrier kit as local to me and love to support new players to the market and been really impressed, great review.
Really glad you are enjoying your Harrier kit Gemma. It's really hard to beat it when it comes to value for money! Thanks for watching, I'm glad you enjoyed the video 🙏😊
Fantastic in depth review. I've just got my Kinder 10 and used it once in the Alps for a hike. Might be worth noting that other soft bottles do fit in the pockets, my Kalenji ones from my previous pack fit perfectly so at least I'm not wasting those. I am going to buy the bladder though as I like to have both options. Next outing is the Fairfield Horseshoe this weekend where I'm sure it will work perfectly!
Another informative review Loyd. I’m really impressed with the VFM that Harrier are able to offer with their kit. Would be interesting to see a running vest comparison with your best in category winner.
Thanks Roger, really glad you enjoyed it. I'm going to be doing a running pack showdown video soon on the channel 👍
Thanks for watching 🙏
Looks to be high quality at a very competitive price point! I'm intrigued! Great review!
It really is Chad, great value for money that's for sure 👍
Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏
Well that was a very thorough review, not that I'd expect any less from you. Would love to see a showdown video of running packs, would be really useful I think.
I'm really glad you thought so, I always try and make our reviews as honest and as informative as possible. Keep your eyes peeled for our showdown video coming soon! Thanks for watching and supporting the channel 🙏😊
Great review mate, I've got a few bits from harrier and was surprised how good the quality is for the price. Would definitely like to see a hydration pack showdown video 😊👍🏻 thank you for the video
Thanks Aaron and keep your eyes peeled for a running pack showdown video! Thanks for watching mate 🙏
Love your videos, great review and looking forward to more from your channel
Thanks Lorinda, that's very kind and I'm glad you're enjoying the channel. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's really appreciated 🙏😊
Thanks Lorinda, that's very kind and I'm glad you're enjoying the channel. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's really appreciated 🙏😊
It’s great to support British companies it’s even better when the products are of such quality and well thought out great video thanks loyd 👍🏻
Totally agree Kevin 👍
Fantastic products and amazing value for money! Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏
Was looking for my first running vest, bought the Kinder 10l after watching this vid. Thanks Loyd 👍
That's awesome, hope you enjoy your Kinder vest 👍
Thanks for watching 🙏
I’ve recently bought the Harrier waterproof jacket following your recommendation and I am so impressed by the quality and well thought out features of the jacket. From the looks of this test it may be time to replace my Inov-8 vest with the Harrier vest to match the jacket! ….. Would definitely like to see you do a ‘showdown’ best of the vests test! 👍
That's great to hear, really glad you're enjoying your new jacket 😊
Keep your eyes peeled for a showdown video, thanks for watching 🙏
Ps bought the Harrier Kinder 10L based on your great informative review 🤘
Awesome, I hope you enjoy your new running vest 👍🙂
Sorry Lloyd, a very running CZcamsr question here 😅 Do the side pockets fit a go pro on a mini tri pod in there? The ones you mentioned that are now 9cm whereas on the previous version of the vest were 11.5
Top review. Can you do showdown against the new Salomon 12l that is due out in March
I'm just trying to get hold of one Paul and then it'll definitely feature in the showdown video 👍
Hope you're fit and well mate and thanks for watching 🙏
I'm looking for a 10 litre vest atm. I have the Salomon ADV 5 and the Salomon active skin 8 and think both are great (though haven't found a satisfactory way to store my poles on either). Would you suggest switching to Harrier or something else? I love the pole storage loops on the back of this one...
love mine! it took me through any weather, over any surface, and did take quite a beating. still going strong.
will you also do a review of the new Curbar 5L, Loyd?
It's a great pack Ozenfant 👍
I wasn't planning on a Curbar 5l review but I'll see what I can do. Thanks for watching and supporting the channel its appreciated 🙏
Great review. I've had my Kinder 10 for a couple of months and I'm very pleased with it.
In your review you showed 3 front pockets on each side, large mesh at the bottom, water bottle in the middle and a top zip/ fold down pocket at the top (depending on which side). There's an additional pocket behind those too. Also worth noting the vest takes bladders with a top tube out over the shoulders, as well as at the bottom.
I'm slightly disappointed they've done away with the front pole mountings, the back position is hard to get at and the poles bounce a bit too much (probably my running style).
That minor point aside, it's a comfortable vest, and great value like the rest of Harrier kit.
Thanks Jack, and yes it is a shame about the front holders. When we were making the new batch we couldn't get the correct components to have a decent front carry option. Before Xmas the world of manufacturing went a bit crazy and there were issues and delays all over the place. So we had to make the decision to leave them off. So im sorry about that, hope we can get it sorted again in future! Kate
@@harrier_trail_running Thanks Kate, I appreciate all the difficulties you had in the run up to Christmas! That minor issue aside I'm impressed with both the vest and the Exmoor/Dartmoor jacket. Good stuff!
It is a shame about the front pole system, I also prefer to have my poles on the front of my pack Jack. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏😊
Yes to the video please 😀
Okey dokey, keep your eyes peeled! Thanks for watching 🙏😉
The Harrier waist belt bag is also great quality.
Great review….. yes, yes, yes a review would be grand ! Is Harrier a UK company or available in the States?
Yes we do ship to the states :) there is info on the website menu, help, delivery. Thanks, Kate
Thanks very much, glad you enjoyed the video. Kate got back to you I see, not only great kit but awesome customer service as well 👍
Thanks for watching and supporting the channel its really appreciated 🙏
Harrier really do some great gear at a fraction of the price of the bigger brands without loss of quality. Great gear great prices 👏 👍
Totally agree Sean, great kit for the money! Thanks for watching mate 🙏😊
Looks like a great pack. It's my birthday next month and I'm on a the market for a new 5l pack and Harrier is definitely on the short list.
They make some great value kit Ian, I don't think you'd be disappointed 👍
Thanks for watching mate, hope the recovery is still going well 🙏
Thanks Loyd. Recovery is cautiously going well as long as I keep the pace down. Been slowly building and up to 70km p/w just now. 🤞
Thanks for the review Loyd! I've always wanted to test their waterproof jacket and now I am impressed with this vest. Sadly, Harrier still do NOT deliver to European countries... Always up for those showdowns thou :)
I'm sure they'll sort out the European deliveries soon Naim 👍
Keep your eyes peeled for our showdown video, coming soon! Thanks for watching 🙏
Not a brand I’m particularly familiar with here in the US but for that price it looks like a fantastic vest.
The Harrier kit is brilliant value for money Christopher 👍
Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏
The new version of the vest fits a large 6.7" smartphone in the side zipped pocket under the arm? I don't understand why they reduced the zipper?
I'm not sure why they did it either, I think you'd struggle to fit a big mobile phone in there 🤔
Thanks for watching 🙏
Ive got the Stanage vest and I wonder if the change in sizing means that it wont get an update. Looking at the other changes, the location of the zipped pocket was an issue for me too as was the the size of some of the stretchy pockets on the front. I also appreciate the tidying up of the zip pulls and other loops, now that Ive run in my vest a few times I'll be doing the same soon.
Hi Jon, to make things less confusing we have now made the Kinder in XL sizng up to 48" (that is equivalent to the old Stanage XXL). Same in the Curbar so more sizes available in both models and more colours :)
@@harrier_trail_running thanks Kate, that makes sense
The update has definitely improved an already good running vest Jon, I think you'd like the updates 👍
Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏
There’s gonna be a showdown👍
Queue the good, the bad and the ugly theme tune!! 😂
Keep your eyes peeled Paul, coming soon 😉
Hi Loyd
Any issues with getting Salomon bottles in the front pockets? The harrier bottles look quite a lot shorter so am slightly worried about the fit… thanks!
You'd definitely want Harrier bottles, they are specifically designed for the vest. You're right Salomon bottles are slimmer and longer, I'm not sure they'd work 🤔
Hope this helps and thanks for watching the channel Nick 🙏😊
@@Run4Adventure Thanks Loyd - really appreciate the reply! I think I'll go for the Salomon adv skin 12...
Real shame about the loss of front pole carrying. Plus one for the showdown review. I wish more vests would have something on the back to clip a light to.
It is a shame but the back system does work well. There's normally somewhere to clip a light on most packs Chris, what pack do you use? Keep your eyes peeled for a running pack showdown video 😉
Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏
The issue I have is no bottles included, add in two bottles and it’s £80, a quick search online and you can get a Salomon Adv Skin 8 for for £80. Or an Ultimate Direction 10l for £100.
Ours with a welcome discount and two bottles is £71 and you get a free gift :)
There you go, sounds like a pretty good deal to me! That is brilliant value for money 👍
Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏
Brilliant I didn’t even know Harrier existed
Hello 😄
@@harrier_trail_running The purchase of a Kinder is imminent
@@MTeague1963 ha, excellent 👌
We'll I'm glad you know know Marcus. They make some really well thought out trail running kit at amazingly good prices! 👍
Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏
@@Run4Adventure I've just ordered a Curbar beginners bundle as I am returning to endurance racing after a few years off. Keep up the fantastic work on your channel and good luck with going "fullt-ime"
Looks like the flasks are positioned a bit lower then on a lot of different brands what makes drinking from them while running a bit more uncomfortable or am I wrong at that?
They are definitely a bit lower than the current Salomon packs Bob but Harrier do make a long straw bottle if it is an issue. Hope this helps and thanks for watching the channel 🙏😊
It surprises me how a pack like this can be priced this competitively. Packs from other popular brands can be double the price of this yet is not double the quality. In fact there are some really thoughtful elements like the bungee cords at the back to tighten down the content when running light that I rarely see from other brands.
Thank you Mohamed! the main difference is that we only sell direct to customer so the usual 30% middle man / retailer cut is never taken. Plus we are only 3 people in the company. We do everything ourselves and use the odd freelancer so we keep costs right down. Different model to other brands but is working for us so far :) thanks a lot for your comments. Kate
@@harrier_trail_running Hi Kate. It's the quality of your products at this price point that stands you out. I've got my eye out on the Baslow waist pack when more come in stock.
@@m3phist0 thank you :) more small belts should arrive end of April.
The Harrier kit is brilliant value for money Mohamed 👍
Like Kate said, if you cut out the middle man it makes a big difference. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏
Great video... Thanks!!! Have you ever tried the Aonije 8l vest kit??? It's incredible and Very acessible!! Aliexpress - china
Thanks Alexandre, I'm glad you enjoyed the video 😊
I know of the Aonije pack but I haven't tried running with one. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏
1 vote for the showdown video from me please!
Okey dokey, keep your eyes peeled. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏😊
big enough for a hand axe and fly fishing rod?
I have no idea Jack, I’ve never tried to fit an axe or a fishing rod inside it? Also it depends on the size of the axe and rod? Sorry I can help 👍
@@Run4Adventure all good :) would a one handed axe fit?
@@JackFrost008 It should do 👍
@@Run4Adventure nice, stilll thinking about it, need to make it as light as possible
I wanted to like this vest but I found this product very poor. If you rely on using a bladder in the back then avoid this vest. It bounces around and into the back no matter how tight the feeble elastic draw strings are pulled. The poor design will make this uncomfortable and unusable on long runs. A badly placed phone pocket which can’t take a large modern phone is sort of ok at this price and quality but a full hydration vest which can’t hold the bladder is pointless. There are far better designed and better quality hydration packs out there which can support front and back hydration options. Returns with Harrier was a nightmare too.
Sorry to hear that! I don't use a bladder in any of my hydration vest so I've not had any problems. Did you attach your bladder to the bladder loop in the vest to stop it sliding down? 🤔
This is the first negative feedback I've heard about the Harrier brand, I hope you got things sorted out in the end 👍
@@Run4AdventureI was surprised too. I have tended to run more solo and less reliant on aid stations or just out where there are few shops, so I like to carry lots of fluid. I did attach the bladder but the loop is not adjustable , also as there are not any tightening straps near the top and the vest and it is quite loose there ( unless fully packed), the bladder jumps around and bangs into my back. Some other brands have external secure adjustments which can be used, on the move, as the bladder shrinks, they can be tightened, if that makes sense? Also as there is no padding between the runner’s back and the vest, all movement is felt and I suspect the bladder will quickly warm up with body heat in spring/summer, which can be a problem with bladders. The vest would probably be better if it wasn’t sold as a bladder supporting vest. That is just my take on it though, and you appeared to have fun with it in your test run 😊. If you use it again I would be interested in your experience with the bladder.