@@apolloisnotashirt Perhaps Ranni has the best option over all the other gods. It is dark and gloomy but people are free. But with Miquella it is absolute control and loving people against their will.
@@SuperUniverse Imo she is indeed the best option because its basically pure free will. Frenzied flame second for me because deep down I'm still nihilistic. And Goldmask third, while i like the idea of not having my fate be predetermined by fickle gods, and my morals and values attached to what the order already upholds, its not really free will.
@@apolloisnotashirt True. I think each option has its own compromise. I notice that a lot of people chose the Ranni Ending since you get to marry Ranni. Funny enough they want to marry her other half too :)
Saint Trina was the only part of Miquella that understood that, if he turns into a god, he'll end up like Marika. She became a god to avenge her people and became a monster for it, enslaving the omens, misbegotten and such, and when she realized she destroyed the Elden Ring. Miquella wanted to be a god of love and compassion but couldn't see that he was following his mother's steps, and Saint Trina wanted to spare him from such fate.
To me St. Trina / Thioller reflect drug / addiction. - Eternal Slepp - Thiollier obsession « Want to see St Trina one last time » - Deepest zone in the dlc, we dive so deep in the darkness, death bed. - « Pleasant sleep » - Hidden Needle ( hidden like if it was a shame ) - « Please kill me, please make it (him) stop » - Her Flower are « toxic » except the last one St Trina drop ( items description ) - Thiollier see him as weak and useless, no self confidence, he only find peace in the sleep. - Thiollier gameplay is based on poison ( like any drug) - Needles needles needles 💉 all on his body ( chest armor description item )
This sheds light on Radagon and Marika. When Miquella became a god, his humanity became St Trina. Maybe when Marika became a god 😮 became Radagon. Then, probably during the shattering, they recombined. With Marika being a self-center fuckass, her subconscious other half fell in love with her. Maybe St Trina wants to stop Miquella because, deep down, Miquella knows what he is doing is wrong
That miquella split off his emotional and kind aspect (st Trina) of himself in order to become a god, and st trina has been trapped down in the fissure by him because she disagreed and didn’t want him to be hurt by doing this.
St. Trina is begging for the Tarnished to stop Miquella and save him from himself by killing him. That by becoming a god, Miquella is actually damning himself.
@@KhangNguyen-ij4xh This right here is why i don't think Miquella is as evil as people are saying. He KNEW this. He was very much aware of it. So i think this means he doesn't care what happens to him as long as he is able to succeed and thus create a new age of peace and compassion. Problem is, after he abandoned his kindess/love, he just goes on to do the most unspeakable shit imaginable and gives us zero reason to trust him. So i like to think that as soon as he got rid of his love, that is the exact moment he doomed not only his plan to complete failure; but himself as well. Trina wants him dead simply because she loves her other half, and doesn't want to see him destroy himself by ascending to goodhood. Poor little guy man i actually feel bad for him. As Ymir states, he KNEW his bloodline was messed up and batshit crazy. So he tried to fix things his own way, all of his previous acts of benevolence, trying to find a cure for the scarlet rot, feeding his own blood to a big ass tree who would later serve as a safe haven for the oppressed and a defiance to the Erdtree and the Golden Order's tyranny, all those things, for nothing. All failures. All because he thought that abandoning everything he's ever stood for to become a God was the definitive solution. And then he fails once more, becoming nothing but the empty, loveless shell of the benevolent Empyrean he once was.
St. Trina, the purple flower thing is miquellas alterante personality, his compassionate and loving personality, that he cast aside to become a god bc St. Trina was expressing doubts about godhood being a neccesary thing to do, so miquella cast St. Trina aside. Eventually the tarnished would stumble upon st. Trina and st trina would beg the tarnished to kill miquella
To think St. Trina was Miquella's conscience as a literal split personality.
Miquella is a HE
St. Trina is a SHE
And they're two completely different characters
@@taunttitan1714yeah and they’ve split into two characters but they were once part of one full being
@@taunttitan1714 St. Trina is a literal manifestation of Miquella's Human Half. His Discarded Half to be exact.
@@taunttitan1714Completely different personas, but not characters.
@@taunttitan1714 Smells like copium. Remember Radagon and Marika are two halves of the same person too lol. Miquella is just like his parent(s). Haha.
Basically Death is an act of kindness you can give to miquella who would be too far gone from his obession over godhood and Radahn
Also an act of forgiveness before he would ascend to godhood and become another tool for the Greater Will.
@@apolloisnotashirt Perhaps Ranni has the best option over all the other gods.
It is dark and gloomy but people are free.
But with Miquella it is absolute control and loving people against their will.
@@SuperUniverse Imo she is indeed the best option because its basically pure free will. Frenzied flame second for me because deep down I'm still nihilistic. And Goldmask third, while i like the idea of not having my fate be predetermined by fickle gods, and my morals and values attached to what the order already upholds, its not really free will.
@@apolloisnotashirt True. I think each option has its own compromise. I notice that a lot of people chose the Ranni Ending since you get to marry Ranni. Funny enough they want to marry her other half too :)
Duskborn ending is nice
the most hauntingly beautiful dialogue in the whole game
And music
“You must kill Miquella”
I’m trying St. Trina I really am but this giant redhead who is duel wielding swords as big as me is kinda getting in the way.
Miquella : Promise me you will be my consort
Trina : Promise me you gonna kill me
DUDE
I've never Seen something so haunting in a game. The music, the voice in anguish, the petals breaking... This moment is truly something else
might be one of my favourite moments in a game
The voice actor did such a fantastic job with their delivery, I wish there was more.
Her voice is so soothing
She says Kill Miquella, but he's way too hard. been doing ir for an hour last night and an hour this morning.
No such thing as "too hard" lol all dlc's are ramped up in difficulty
I shield poked him to death 😂
There's no such thing as too hard. Its all just skill issue.
@crazypkm same and I don’t feel an ounce of remorse for it either fuck em
Saint Trina was the only part of Miquella that understood that, if he turns into a god, he'll end up like Marika. She became a god to avenge her people and became a monster for it, enslaving the omens, misbegotten and such, and when she realized she destroyed the Elden Ring. Miquella wanted to be a god of love and compassion but couldn't see that he was following his mother's steps, and Saint Trina wanted to spare him from such fate.
her voice is asmr level soothing
To me St. Trina / Thioller reflect drug / addiction.
- Eternal Slepp
- Thiollier obsession « Want to see St Trina one last time »
- Deepest zone in the dlc, we dive so deep in the darkness, death bed.
- « Pleasant sleep »
- Hidden Needle ( hidden like if it was a shame )
- « Please kill me, please make it (him) stop »
- Her Flower are « toxic » except the last one St Trina drop ( items description )
- Thiollier see him as weak and useless, no self confidence, he only find peace in the sleep.
- Thiollier gameplay is based on poison ( like any drug)
- Needles needles needles 💉 all on his body ( chest armor description item )
Truly beautiful dialogue.
Thanks for this!
Tysm 💞💜
You're welcome!
This sheds light on Radagon and Marika. When Miquella became a god, his humanity became St Trina. Maybe when Marika became a god 😮 became Radagon. Then, probably during the shattering, they recombined.
With Marika being a self-center fuckass, her subconscious other half fell in love with her. Maybe St Trina wants to stop Miquella because, deep down, Miquella knows what he is doing is wrong
Did anyone else really love the eerie music here?
Voz dela é tão calmante que faz nós cair no sono ou chorar de angústia
Man I missed so much content because I didn’t know how to progress the quests
How do you activate dialogue? Just drink nectar or do you need special equipment or event to get dialogue? Or is it just random?
you just keep imbibing nectar. repeatedly. i think after 6 times you get all of the dialogue
After 4 times you will hear the dialogue, I got goosebumps the first time I heard it
After 4 times and you will get it.
@@luigi1456thank you.
So miquella discard his other half like Vergil here?
Essentially yep but said other half wants us to murder miquilla
The key to this parabole lies in the antechamber of the messiah's
Why when I got to the room after fighting the boss, the girl is on the ground and not moving? What do I have to do?
if u killed miquella, u basicall killed st trina too, since she is the other part of miquella
@@mariambeesa8533 ok thank you, and yes I killed miquella
She's asking you to mercy kill Miquella so that she could be at peace with her other half.
So St Trina is asleep ? And what happened to Ranni ? Does she show up in the DLC as well ?
As far as I know, nothing in the dlc affects the base game, and vice versa.
wtf this supposed to mean
That miquella split off his emotional and kind aspect (st Trina) of himself in order to become a god, and st trina has been trapped down in the fissure by him because she disagreed and didn’t want him to be hurt by doing this.
St. Trina is begging for the Tarnished to stop Miquella and save him from himself by killing him. That by becoming a god, Miquella is actually damning himself.
@@KingXJAnonthe saddest part is that Miquella knows this, but does it anyway. Trina IS Miquella, meaning he already had doubts
@@KhangNguyen-ij4xh This right here is why i don't think Miquella is as evil as people are saying. He KNEW this. He was very much aware of it. So i think this means he doesn't care what happens to him as long as he is able to succeed and thus create a new age of peace and compassion.
Problem is, after he abandoned his kindess/love, he just goes on to do the most unspeakable shit imaginable and gives us zero reason to trust him. So i like to think that as soon as he got rid of his love, that is the exact moment he doomed not only his plan to complete failure; but himself as well.
Trina wants him dead simply because she loves her other half, and doesn't want to see him destroy himself by ascending to goodhood.
Poor little guy man i actually feel bad for him. As Ymir states, he KNEW his bloodline was messed up and batshit crazy. So he tried to fix things his own way, all of his previous acts of benevolence, trying to find a cure for the scarlet rot, feeding his own blood to a big ass tree who would later serve as a safe haven for the oppressed and a defiance to the Erdtree and the Golden Order's tyranny, all those things, for nothing. All failures. All because he thought that abandoning everything he's ever stood for to become a God was the definitive solution. And then he fails once more, becoming nothing but the empty, loveless shell of the benevolent Empyrean he once was.
St. Trina, the purple flower thing is miquellas alterante personality, his compassionate and loving personality, that he cast aside to become a god bc St. Trina was expressing doubts about godhood being a neccesary thing to do, so miquella cast St. Trina aside. Eventually the tarnished would stumble upon st. Trina and st trina would beg the tarnished to kill miquella