Destroying the Fuhrerbunker - 30th Anniversary

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  • čas přidán 20. 05. 2018
  • 2018 marks the 30th anniversary of the East German's attempt to destroy Hitler's infamous Berlin bunker in the summer of 1988. After lying forgotten and buried behind the Berlin Wall since the 1960s, the Fuhrerbunker re-emerged just before the fall of communism in East Germany and efforts were made to eradicate this historically important site. These efforts were not entirely successful, as we shall see...
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Komentáře • 405

  • @karldelavigne8134
    @karldelavigne8134 Před 5 lety +5253

    Had they not been demolished, the bunkers would probably have become the biggest tourist attraction in Berlin.

  • @yellowbusguy
    @yellowbusguy Před 5 lety +1181

    The amount of steel reinforcing is amazing.

    • @antidoteify
      @antidoteify Před 5 lety +124

      Yeah they really had to work hard to manage to erase the site

  • @patrickguinnane
    @patrickguinnane Před 5 lety +2077

    I was there. It is a rather strange feeling, in the middle of a housing estate but knowing 15ft below the surface WW2 ended

    • @MarkFeltonProductions
      @MarkFeltonProductions  Před 5 lety +737

      I had the same feeling myself - so nondescript for somewhere of considerable historical importance.

  • @Henry_0209
    @Henry_0209 Před 5 lety +1300

    A little bit disappointed that the interior photos of the bunker in 1987 are not in the Video. During the demolition process, the eastgerman photographer Robert Conrad dressed up as a worker , sneaked into the construction site, and finnaly into the Führerbunker. There he took the last photos of the inside of the bunker before it was demolished. When he was down there, he also discovered some kind of escape- or supplytunnel, even big enough for trucks to pass trough, but as he realized that the tunnel leads into west-berlin, he was too afraid to explore it any further.

  • @bertsedgwick9828
    @bertsedgwick9828 Před 5 lety +841

    4:52 "Rather grim East German houses" pmsl. That estate looks lovely compared to the council flat Estates over here in England lol

    • @HustleMuscleGhias
      @HustleMuscleGhias Před 5 lety +41

      That was nothing compared to Cabrini Green in Chicago.

    • @neildahlgaard-sigsworth3819
      @neildahlgaard-sigsworth3819 Před 5 lety +33

      Bert Sedgwick that because they spent money on both the buildings and things for the population to do, unlike here.

    • @68air
      @68air Před 5 lety +70

      YES I thought that comment was particularly subjective and useless. The flats look anything but "grim". Grim would be Auschwitz et al

  • @bigbrowntau
    @bigbrowntau Před 5 lety +188

    One of the things about Berlin is that it's always rebuilding. Every time you build there, it impacts the historical layer beneath, or removes a building that someone wants to preserve. Like the Fuehrerbunker, the old DDR parliament building was also controversial. Demolish it? Preserve it? Always a hard decision. Thank you for another great video!

  • @skypilot257
    @skypilot257 Před 5 lety +158

    I was stationed in Berlin 87-90. Watched the demolition.

  • @thinman8621
    @thinman8621 Před 3 lety +46

    Look at 4:04 for clear picture of how much steel rebar the Germans put in there concrete. Holy Mackeral! It's no wonder the bunker was still intact after being bombed during the war. Awesome build quality.

  • @powerslave6944
    @powerslave6944 Před 5 lety +658

    Not to worry; Hitler’s ghost always appear every April 30th at the parking lot.

  • @michaelbrown5838
    @michaelbrown5838 Před 5 lety +681

    Those who forget the past are doomed to repeat it.

  • @muddshshshark
    @muddshshshark Před 5 lety +278

    Drink every time he says "Bunker"

  • @sturmtruppe7071
    @sturmtruppe7071 Před 5 lety +102

    Still remember when my grandma told me she once stood infront of it in 1944 as a 12 year old girl. 1 week later she moved with her family to the land house near Lübeck. :D

  • @shauntaylor6040
    @shauntaylor6040 Před 5 lety +34

    The walls are still intact but the roof was taken off and the rooms filled in with rubble. Detectors can still pick up the iron rods that reinforced the concrete.

  • @notmenotme614
    @notmenotme614 Před 4 lety +133

    “Grim workers housing”
    To rent a flat like that would cost you a fortune in London!

  • @justonemori
    @justonemori Před 4 lety +87

    Holy moly that's the motherload of rebar.

  • @ultramet
    @ultramet Před 4 lety +25

    I was just in Berlin and actually stumbled upon this site after eating at an Indian restaurant and then walking towards the Mall of Berlin. It’s indeed just a parking lot today. A tour guide was around there and told me in German that the actual site where Hitler was found dead , within the bunker, complex is now where a child’s playground is located (within that ugly DDR housing complex). I saw the playground as well. The ironies of history are fascinating.

  • @juslangley
    @juslangley Před 5 lety +124

    It really is a sad thing that this was destroyed. Yes, I understand the reasoning; officials didn't want it to be a "temple" to Nazism, but from a historical perspective, it's an utter tragedy.

    • @JAG8691
      @JAG8691 Před 5 lety +13

      Justin E. L. I suspect that it is more likely to encourage a future growth in people admiring Hitler and the Nazis than if a museum demonstrating the horrors of the third reich had been opened to the public, after all the bunker is still there, it is an unofficial Nazi shrine.But what has been done cannot be undone we can only build for the future and educate the younger generations in the true history of the planet and hope that they don't repeat history,but knowing human nature I wouldn't bet on a conflict free world in the future.

  • @georgschmidt2091
    @georgschmidt2091 Před 5 lety +510

    Berlin in the 30s was beautiful compared to today.

  • @bomber2518
    @bomber2518 Před 5 lety +68

    They can erase buildings and land marks but you can’t erase people’s memories

  • @crafter170
    @crafter170 Před 5 lety +17

    Was there in 1990 chipping bits off of the Berlin wall ...The west was bright and colourful When you stepped back through the hole in the wall the East looked like it was painted with drab grey and black paint ....funnily enough the eastern bloc women were always dressed immaculately. Very clean and pretty especially when you ventured to Czechoslovakia. The further east you went the more beautiful they looked .Anyway thanks for another fantastic vid .Brilliant.

  • @rare6499
    @rare6499 Před 5 lety +80

    Great video, some interesting pictures a couple of which were new to me. I always find it amazing how relatively quickly a site can change so dramatically. The new Chancellery was an amazing building, I would have loved to have seen it.

  • @joerusso7683
    @joerusso7683 Před 5 lety +33

    Thanks Mr Felton. It's awesome that I can find your great documentaries like this on CZcams and actually learn something, especially when all we get here in the U.S. the same old recycled shows on AHC and THC. You deserve more exposure. Thank you.

  • @ringbimmer
    @ringbimmer Před 5 lety +275

    Destroying all those historical buildings. Damn!

  • @titansofsteel3896
    @titansofsteel3896 Před 5 lety +48

    Just saw the documentary on Hitler's train. I enjoyed your observations on it.

  • @segerton65
    @segerton65 Před 5 lety +17

    As always great research and photographic evidence mark Felton.

  • @richardsmith2879
    @richardsmith2879 Před 4 lety +84

    Those “grim” houses looked quite smart I thought. Look at British social housing of the period...

  • @alexschneider915
    @alexschneider915 Před 5 lety +14

    Thank you mark
    For upload all the video about ww2
    It really was really helpful and entertaining

  • @blazeaglory
    @blazeaglory Před 4 lety +29

    Its just amazing and creepy how things have changed. From immaculate and sure to broken and illusive.

  • @megakev321
    @megakev321 Před 4 lety +339

    Why would they demolish such an interesting historical artifact? They could have made it into a museum or something.

  • @pneulancer
    @pneulancer Před 5 lety +261

    Since they destroyed this; shouldn't they also destroy every edifice that Stalin lived in or was built during his reign of terror?

  • @JohnDoe-ml8ru
    @JohnDoe-ml8ru Před 5 lety +1684

    Should have been made into a museum, not destroyed. :(

    • @Exodon2020
      @Exodon2020 Před 5 lety +170

      East German leadership avoided being confronted with the past as much as possible. Germany's Nazi Past was shoved on the West German government which was depicted a direct continuation of the Nazi government and done.

    • @SoloTravelerOffTheBeatenPath
      @SoloTravelerOffTheBeatenPath Před 5 lety +459

      Commies are known for destruction and erasing of history.

  • @Neil-Aspinall
    @Neil-Aspinall Před 4 lety +11

    Mark I have been to the present day bunker site. You do get a real sense of history being there.

  • @mrhaltstop2294
    @mrhaltstop2294 Před 5 lety +185

    Hopefully the eagle's nest in Berchtesgaden is preserved...they wanted to destroy it as well
    Destroying monuments and buildings is destroying History...even if they belong to a terror regime

  • @paintbox9899
    @paintbox9899 Před 5 lety +7

    Thanks for excellent breakdown, amazing whats underneath all our cities!

  • @volvo1354
    @volvo1354 Před 5 lety +4

    interesting piece, nicely put together

  • @tomg3818
    @tomg3818 Před 5 lety +5

    Great video. Very informative. Left a like 👍

  • @alanhaynes418
    @alanhaynes418 Před 5 lety +20

    I remember extensively exploring this area after the wall came down, but before much in the way of demolition had taken place.
    I also used to sneak into no-mans land between the walls with a German friend through gaps on the western side which he had discovered.
    One time, when we returned to our entrance gap, there was an East German work team, complete with armed guard, fixing the hole.
    Luckily we managed to nip past them, because they were so shocked to see us approaching from behind them.

  • @rokadaprliinnysystemyaczno4761

    And of course it was just a coincidence that the bunker was fully destroyed on the eve of 1989 ;)

  • @davenmac732
    @davenmac732 Před 5 lety +7

    always well done your narration is the same as if i were watching the history channel

  • @BlackfyreHD
    @BlackfyreHD Před 5 lety +94

    Would of been fascinating if they had preserved the bunker and turned it into some form of attraction. I would of loved to of gone inside when I visited Berlin.

    • @webinator9715
      @webinator9715 Před 5 lety +12

      I would have loved it if you had learned proper grammar.

  • @eyesofisabelofficial
    @eyesofisabelofficial Před 5 lety +13

    Wow, I was there in the May of 1988 and took a similar photo to the one showing the grassy mound from a viewing platform erected by the US army in the american sector.

  • @USER351
    @USER351 Před 5 lety +12

    I have been to that site twice and do not think those apartment buildings look rather “grim”. Much nicer than what I have seen in the U.K.

  • @robvernon3124
    @robvernon3124 Před 5 lety +1

    Enjoyed watching..thankyou

  • @mayamanign
    @mayamanign Před 5 lety +4

    How can I not give a thumbs up to a man who has a King Tiger as his commuter car.

  • @jackpinesavage1628
    @jackpinesavage1628 Před 4 lety +5

    It's amazing, Mr. Felton, that you allow comments in the videos you post. I should try to not scroll down to read them after I watch your videos to avoid becoming very angry. Yes sir, that's what I'm going to do from now on.

  • @scotthopkins7711
    @scotthopkins7711 Před 5 lety +719

    Shame it was looted and destroyed.

    • @DavBlc7
      @DavBlc7 Před 5 lety +43

      Not shame cos revenge for Germans looted and destroyed Russian homes plus killing many civilians. That's why they want to wipe out any Nazi symbols.

    • @Hasse479
      @Hasse479 Před 5 lety +161

      David Black How many russian civilians were killed by the germans, and how many was killed by the communist bolscheviks? I think you will find the russians real enemy in the statistics. The ukranians remember holodomor and saw the germans as liberators. Same with the balts.

    • @rnrailproductions5049
      @rnrailproductions5049 Před 5 lety +7

      stenen sture same with Native peoples in the caucus, especially the religious Islamic And Orthodox Christians.

    • @Cortesevasive
      @Cortesevasive Před 5 lety +5

      @@Janibek35 It sort of does mate

    • @paolopapolli6002
      @paolopapolli6002 Před 5 lety +21

      LUL POOR FUHRER HIS BUNKER DESTROYED I CRY FOR THIS THING EVERY NIGHT DAMN

  • @royrached6668
    @royrached6668 Před 5 lety +5

    McDonald's: where u want us to deliver....hmmm the same apartment of the old Fuher bunker area plz ... :P

  • @sotisthethird5377
    @sotisthethird5377 Před 4 lety +38

    I was at that "bunker" 5 weeks ago. and it's just sad what they did to it..

  • @bbenjoe
    @bbenjoe Před 5 lety +133

    The complex should've been protected as a museum of some sort.

  • @nicholass3964
    @nicholass3964 Před 5 lety +2

    Great minidocumentary

  • @AlphaChinoz
    @AlphaChinoz Před 4 lety +18

    omfg someone was clearly try to reaching out of collapse building at 1:15 .! death caughted on photography

  • @Horizon344
    @Horizon344 Před 5 lety +2

    Excellent research

  • @richardlawson4317
    @richardlawson4317 Před 5 lety +65

    Rather grim workers' housing?? They look fine to me. Rentals nowadays in most large cities are beyond the pay scale of most people. I would gladly rent an apartment there!!

    • @sharyncarr4279
      @sharyncarr4279 Před 5 lety +11

      Except for one problem, the buildings are filled with asbestos and the German government has a serious concern as to what to do with them.

    • @folkestender2025
      @folkestender2025 Před 5 lety +2

      They are not grim workers houses, they are normal modern 80th Style apartment blocks at this area. I know more ugly houses.
      upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/aa/Berlin_2011_location_of_Führerbunker.jpg

  • @tommygun6028
    @tommygun6028 Před 5 lety +1

    Great video 😎👍🤝

  • @anthonyartusa7425
    @anthonyartusa7425 Před 4 lety +39

    It really is a shame that the bunkers were destroyed, it would really cool to tour the bunkers.

  • @sirbadassstudios
    @sirbadassstudios Před 4 lety +2

    So is the bunker still there buried under the ground and rooms still under the building being inaccessible?

  • @zillsburyy1
    @zillsburyy1 Před 5 lety

    Cool video

  • @DCDi34
    @DCDi34 Před 4 lety +13

    Such beautiful buildings compared to what's there today.

  • @global001
    @global001 Před 5 lety +13

    what would've been good here is if you'd shown plans & photos of the interior to bring more life to you other great images

  • @wolfthequarrelsome504
    @wolfthequarrelsome504 Před 5 lety +21

    Next . Let's destroy the Churchill bunker.

  • @rupertbaxter2274
    @rupertbaxter2274 Před 5 lety +701

    ...desperately trying to erase and forget the lessons of history.

    • @secretm.5896
      @secretm.5896 Před 5 lety +52

      Which is wrong. Germany should live with it's past instead of trying to forget it. No one alive now, except some dying soldiers were there at that time and shooud feel guilty anyway. So whats the problem.

    • @oooSturmgeistooo
      @oooSturmgeistooo Před 5 lety +80

      Belive me...germany learned its lesson and is far away from "erasing and forgetting"....

    • @thanosthethiccfarmer1850
      @thanosthethiccfarmer1850 Před 5 lety +7

      if Germany does attempt another major war they might just get dropped kicked again like he last two times

    • @charlestorruella6140
      @charlestorruella6140 Před 5 lety +13

      @@thanosthethiccfarmer1850 ya like the last 2 times where millons of poeple died ya we kick the shit out if them allright right after the destroyed mist if Europe.

    • @batman-cw2hd
      @batman-cw2hd Před 5 lety +32

      That cowardly shameless bastard Hitler was afraid of facing a trial, facing the German people, and taking responsibility for his crimes against humanity, so he put a bullet in his head that was a easier way out.

  • @Naturelover12184
    @Naturelover12184 Před 5 lety +9

    I'm gonna build again

  • @Thepriest39
    @Thepriest39 Před 5 lety +22

    The Germans knew how to build some tuff shit. Experts in re-enforced concrete.

  • @anthonywalsh7613
    @anthonywalsh7613 Před 5 lety +4

    I actually went & saw this in 1988 from a platform from west Berlin

  • @JohnDoe-pv2iu
    @JohnDoe-pv2iu Před 4 lety +3

    Soviet era 'houses', an appointment building. Probably should refer to them as 'housing'. Great Video.

  • @terencehayes9840
    @terencehayes9840 Před 4 lety +1

    Great video

  • @rnrailproductions5049
    @rnrailproductions5049 Před 5 lety +14

    It would’ve been great to build some entrance or whatever and restore the bunker for historical purposes.

  • @RoseSharon7777
    @RoseSharon7777 Před 5 lety

    I'd like to know when they were built and are there any pics of that?

    • @KarlfMjolnir
      @KarlfMjolnir Před 5 lety +3

      I believe he said 1935 for the older part and 1942 for the newerbunker? Or did you mean the buildings?

  • @robertsmith5744
    @robertsmith5744 Před 5 lety +3

    There is a sign marking this spot, use google maps and across the street to the south of the US embassy is the parking lot and the sign.

  • @jimmcrae1258
    @jimmcrae1258 Před 5 lety +1

    I drove past the car park in a tour bus last year , if you're not told what it was you would be oblivious and the irony is it is only just down the road from the Holocaust memorial.

  • @noneofyourbusiness2107
    @noneofyourbusiness2107 Před 4 lety +7

    its such a good piece of history

  • @MilesBader
    @MilesBader Před 5 lety +18

    "for these rather grim east german houses" ...
    Hmmm? They look pretty nice to me... (dunno what the interior is like, of course)

  • @Whitpusmc
    @Whitpusmc Před 5 lety +37

    The problem is that destroying these symbols of evil allows modern society to pretend it never happened or that it’s evil deeds were overstated.

    • @Xfire209
      @Xfire209 Před 5 lety +11

      You have clearly never been to Germany and have no idea how much they publish newspaper articles, books etc. on that subject. Or how often it is talked about in school. So relax and stop worrying about some pieces of bombed out rubble.

    • @kspfan001
      @kspfan001 Před 5 lety +7

      thats what the concentration camp preservation is for. this bunker would just be a neonazi shrine.

  • @timheersma4708
    @timheersma4708 Před 4 lety +19

    There were photos taken by a brave soul that snuck in during demolition,/construction. There was not much left worth seeing.

  • @opoxious1592
    @opoxious1592 Před 5 lety +6

    I would love to add that "Reichs Kanzlei" sign to my collection.
    I wonder if it would have survived post-war Germany

  • @martijnquaedvlieg9828
    @martijnquaedvlieg9828 Před 4 lety +4

    Interesting to see that there is a VW T3 Transporter in DDR use on 3:35. I knew some of those were exported to the DDR, but they were vastly expensive there.

  • @kenboon1478
    @kenboon1478 Před 5 lety +388

    The bunkers along with the Reich's chancellory should have been preserved!

    • @DavBlc7
      @DavBlc7 Před 5 lety +29

      Not think so, The Allies and the Russians decided to wipe out any Nazi symbols close to Hitler. All building that Hitler live in during his leadership were wiped out so and not to became memorials to Hitler for his followers.
      They failed to destroy the underground bunkers because it was decided it was not safe blowing it up as it was close to buildings around the site filled with people so they had to cover it with soil and grass.

    • @magnusgreel275
      @magnusgreel275 Před 5 lety +18

      @@DavBlc7 I agree. I don't like the Soviets, but they made the right decision destroying that stuff. It's awesome that they literally paved over it with a parking lot! The final backhand against the Nazis. The third Reich, with all the killing, torture, pain and war... And what have they got to show for it? A parking lot and a sign. Well done, hope it was all worth it, fools.

    • @napoleonibonaparte7198
      @napoleonibonaparte7198 Před 5 lety +17

      sean sims And make it a pilgrimage site for Nazis? No.

    • @batman-cw2hd
      @batman-cw2hd Před 5 lety +10

      That cowardly shameless bastard Hitler was afraid of facing a trial, facing the German people, and taking responsibility for his crimes against humanity, so he put a bullet in his head that was a easier way out.

    • @MayhemicMAD
      @MayhemicMAD Před 5 lety +6

      While I absolutely agree with you, there is in fact one location left intact and turned into a museum. The eagles nest on the Obersalzberg.

  • @andrewpante6047
    @andrewpante6047 Před 4 lety +4

    Drink every time he says Furhrer bunker !

  • @Keln02
    @Keln02 Před 5 lety

    How big was the darn thing?

  • @rabot8837
    @rabot8837 Před 5 lety +16

    Looks like Detroit :)

  • @klaus3794
    @klaus3794 Před 5 lety

    At 4:41: on the right hand side you see the blue big sign explaining the bunker system. Some people told me their is sigh - apparently they are wrong.

  • @ecthelion1735
    @ecthelion1735 Před 5 lety +21

    What a tragedy.

  • @tomcatsherman6360
    @tomcatsherman6360 Před 5 lety +2

    0:01 royal tiger from Lagleize , Belgieum

  • @BHuang92
    @BHuang92 Před 5 lety +3

    I went to the site of the Fuhrerbunker and felt some very bad vibes to the area. The tour guide was explaining the history behind it while I was taking pictures and noticed the sky getting darker. As the tour guide finished, it started pouring immediately.

  • @TomMoose
    @TomMoose Před 3 lety +10

    Always appreciate your vids. Not sure I concur with “rather grim East German houses” description. These were prime real estate and not the low level construction you find in other less wealthy parts of former East Berlin. Also would prob be nice to mention that the Holocaust museum and memorial are practically across the street, wich is a nice up yours to the nazi regime.

  • @joeblogs8204
    @joeblogs8204 Před 5 lety +15

    grim east german workers houses? ook what they are buiding in the UK and charging us a a fortune !

  • @Mr-Damage
    @Mr-Damage Před 4 lety +8

    I reckon just one brick from the bunker would be worth a bit

  • @jaywilliams9294
    @jaywilliams9294 Před 5 lety +2

    Just imagine if you live right next to where Hitler killed himself

  • @pheasantpluckersson2138

    Whilhelmstrasse looks a lot better these days, new buildings, trees and walkways

  • @McRocket
    @McRocket Před 5 lety +3

    Grim and interesting.

  • @mattezhackblip
    @mattezhackblip Před 5 lety +10

    You can't bury history.

  • @jeffkardosjr.3825
    @jeffkardosjr.3825 Před 5 lety +14

    What's "grim" about those houses?

  • @Sol_Invictus_
    @Sol_Invictus_ Před 5 lety +4

    Wow even Master Hand was in on the destruction

  • @jamesdavidson7604
    @jamesdavidson7604 Před 5 lety +17

    They should buy the parking lot, excavate the site, rebuild it as best as possible and make it a museum

  • @-__-_-_--__--_-__-_____--_-___

    Damn it would've been cool to visit

  • @adamantiuscloudcat1799
    @adamantiuscloudcat1799 Před 5 lety +11

    When the scene of the crime is destroyed, so no one can grab evidence. 😁

  • @443drag
    @443drag Před 5 lety +5

    It would have been a good spot for a sewage treatment plant.

  • @one4allall4one91
    @one4allall4one91 Před 4 lety +18

    If this could had waited 4 more years the bunker would have been saved. 4 short years later the soviet union dissolved.

  • @Arkeze
    @Arkeze Před 5 lety +11

    The end of WW2 depresses the shit out of me, it’s the end of the greatest conflict in world history that will never happen again. I sometimes wish 1939-1945 would go on forever in a time loop. I know everyone who fought and suffered would probably want to punch my teeth down my throat for that, well except for Churchill lol that ol boy loved the war and was the high point of his entire life and saved his name from failure and obscurity. The way everyone dressed, how the cars looked, buildings looked, a time when people like Hitler and Stalin, Mussolini, Churchill, FDR, and Emperor Hirohito existed. It’s a world that not even the greatest fiction writers could conjure up and is like something straight out of a George Orwell movie but it’s real and it happened. Now we live in a time where everyone is on their iPhone and kids eat tide pods and play with fidget spinners and school shootings are a thing. It’s quite strange that a time period that was absolute hell on earth for millions and millions of people is my happy place. No matter what bad is happening in the world or to me, alls I got to do is turn on a ww2 documentary or open up a WW2 book and transport myself inside a B29 over Germany, or in a submarine In the Atlantic or a spy in occupied France and all is right in the world.

    • @bryggreen77
      @bryggreen77 Před 5 lety +5

      Cody Columbia I dig what you said. Agree with a lot of it.

    • @bhishakhakim9357
      @bhishakhakim9357 Před 5 lety +5

      I always knew I wasn't the only one!

  • @tykellerman6384
    @tykellerman6384 Před 5 lety +4

    Thanks mark phenomenal how much concrete was used during war time I imagine slave labor played a huge part🤠👍