Scotland - Rob Roy MacGregor's Grave
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- čas přidán 29. 08. 2024
- This one was taken at the grave of Rob Roy MacGregor. We were on a two-day Timberbush Tour into the Highlands. On our way up to Fort William we made this stop at Balquhidder. The man speaking is one of our favorite Timberbush Tours guides, Marty. He is extremely knowledgeable with a very dry sense of humor. Rob Roy is Marty's favorite historical figure and this is evident from his presentation. This stop at Balquhidder was fascinating because it's not the typical touristy venue. There was no gift shop selling Rob Roy knick knacks or other schemes to turn a tourist dollar (or rather pound) just a simple gravesite in a beautiful, rural Scottish churchyard in the village that Rob Roy called home.
This is an older video from 2010. It's not in widescreen or HD but still worth seeing.
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I was driving through Scotland. A country and it's people, I love. I came upon this little church, stopped, and thought, I will have a gander at that. Well, I was knocked out, when I saw the names, on them graves. And looking out, I could see the site of his home. This, was over 30 years ago, I have never forgot the experience. Never will. God bless Scotland.
Rob Roy is in my direct paternal linage, thank you as I have not visited Scotland yet!
Same
Same for me, he is my 6th great grandfather. I would love to visit Scotland just to see his grave and where he lived.
its still raining btw
I'm a direct decenant of Rob Roy and have a great amount of respect for him and his honor and can't help but feel sorry and a little bit hurt that this situation!!
I'm sure that they could of said that since it's obviously a grave yard can we have our talk outside of the graveyard next to it (iv been there so very many times and there's always room ) and if you must look be extremely respectful to the graveyard and even more the grave of the person who you visit!! It's really not a big deal to have the historical speach next to the graveyard since it's looking out over the two lochs and a beautiful river balvaig with lovely mountains looking over you!!!
The raised voice in the graveyard just seems so disrespectful and unnecessary especially when you see the area !!!
If you really respect anyone let alone a famous person from history please please let them rest in peace not treat them like a cash machine for people who really don't care about it that much!!
If it was for direct decenants for the first time yes make a acception but not for everyday tourists!!!
Please respect peoples resting places!!!
En choli!!!?
I was at this grave 30 years ago, fabulous, he's my hero and in from London!! 66
Wonderful job my man.
Amazing thank you so much for sharing.
Marty!!! the best guide...
I was about to skip this but ended up watching it twice. Well done
thank you to post it!!
This is a great video and information. Total props to the tour guide!
p.s. Ha McDonalds 😅
I loved the movie now knowing it's base off real person makes it even better
He is my 10x great grandfather and found out my friend from England is descended from him too, small world lol
Becky Clark so we’re related
I’m related to him too
He’s my 9x great grandfather
@@noremac7494 same
Bollocks
Lmao I leaned more about that man in 5 minutes than I did throughout that movie. Well done!
Wouldn’t take a lot to be more historically accurate than Braveheart
we dont know but we where from alpine royal is my race
Braveheart depicts all the real battles Wallace fought, so who cares about if there was some romance chucked in and how in real life the battles were fought differently. Who cares? FFS it's a Hollywood Movie, it's was a master piece of a film and nothing will beat it anytime soon. I bet you don't even know any real Scots history but just had to put your 2 bobs worth in. Pathetic go read a book real Scots history is even better in real life from what we know. Alba Gu Bràth (Scotland Forever)
My Grandmother is a direct descendant of his her maiden name was Macgregor.
Scott S I'm a descendent of his too.
Scott S so am i
:) very nice!
THIS GUY IS MY EPIC ANCESTOR WOOOOOO
LITTLE MISS GAMER he an ancestor of mine to
LITTLE MISS GAMER i'm a descendant too
Same here :D
LITTLE MISS GAMER congratulations
Same!
interesting looking grave...........
MacGregor despite them! 👊
In April 1603, James VI of Scotland issued an edict that proclaimed the name of MacGregor as "altogidder abolisheed". Most of what he said follows the movie's plot. I know some parts of the movie have Scottish history wrong. For example, the Argyles were not Jacobites and were not friendly to the McGregor clan.
I'm a descendant of him, welcome to the clan
jesse stoehr so am I my name is lilly Gregg
as regom macgregor
You should be proud you come from a beautiful bloodline of proud Scotts
Im a decendent of him to
Bruh, Rob Roy is my Great, Great, Great, GrandFather.
I’m a MacGregor 🏴
Høłłÿ Mćgrëgør u rich then?
brother
Rob Roy MacGregor, My 9x Greatgrandfather(GGF), through my 6x Greatgrandmother(GGM), Ann Temperance MacGregor. Ann married my 6x GGF Captain Henry Connelly who fought in the American Revolutionary War in North Carolina from 1776-1781 fighting both the British Army and their Loyalist Allies. So, my family had a hatred of the Hanoverian Monarchy that stretched back 3 generations.
I'm descended from them too :)
Archie Cunningham was responsible for the theft of the money. The Duke of Montrose, aka John Graham. I always get a chill when I hear that name. Nice vid, good job.
Good video
I am a decendant of Rob Roy MacGregor.
I've been to Rob Roy's grave in Balquhidder. We didn't go on a guided tour.
I am actually one of his direct descendants
Aidan Cothran me and you are related
Rest In Peace My Great Ancestor. My Grand Mother had our family tree traced back to Rob Roy. Before she died. Our Surname went through a few changes owing to a smuggler in the family who would change his name every so often to evade capture.
ez az én nagy uticélom! ❤
I'm from the McPhees. My dad is William McPhee
nice video
The Movie was a classic...John Hurt and Tim Roth stole the show as villains
My family..oh hell yeah!!!
Just curios: Scotland isn't exactly in the tropics, it must get real cold there. Wouldn't the men's legs get cold wearing those skirts?
Rob roy was my grandpa, i dont know much of him sadly but i know that he was a peacefully man
He was ur grand pa was he he died 300 yearz ago lol u blow ass
@@waterpuppyaquatics7864
😂😂😂😂😂 LOL!!!
I'm related to him
Stalis I’m related to you then
BROGAMERS XD that makes 3 then
Make that 4
My partner is his great great great great great grandaughter. As for the missing man and the money, I think given Scottish loyalty he would not have robbed Rob Roy. Personally I think he was murdered. There is actually no evidence that Rob Roy ever fought 21 duels. Please get your facts right. Rob Roy was a man of his time.
Visited the church yard on a visit in2010 . A nice place took photos of the grave quite a laugh, imagined Liam Neeson lying there. No offence.😀😾🇬🇧🇦🇺
A legend lie there...🙂
my father was named robert roy harry mcKay
How do you get this tour ?
Scotland's Rob Roy MacGregor was a REAL man, England's Robin Hood never, ever existed.
I fancy Tim Roth
Mc = second son. I've never heard of that, I presumed it was just Mac abbreviated ?
Sidlawman Detecting as did I, but I also thought it may have been Irish Gaelic. Glad I know now.
MAC son of MC scond son of !!!!
So now I know...
Mac.Swayne
Mac.Gregor
Mac.Donald
In OE Swayne = Swine = Pig Farmer
Mc 2nd Son of a Pig Farmer
Mac Son of a Pig Framer
There is also a Castle in Ireland 'MacSwayne' so Mac can be found in Eastern Scotland as well as Ireland.
Mc is just Mac abbreviated . This “second son” thing is utter tripe. All of Rob Roy’s sons were MacGriogair or MacGregor (anglicised).
@@sidlawman2 Yes agreed, my Father got fed up signing his cheque books so he changed it from M little c large to Mac
The grave of my 9th Great Grandfather
He is my 8th great grandfather
I am a descendent of him
Good talk but many errors. One glaring one is Rob Roy had 4 sons. the fifth one was adopted
I’m related to this guy
My family still have his shape nose.
Rob Roy y sus clanes huyeron del campo de batalla de GlenShiel abandonando a 240 españoles que habían ido a ayudarlos.
So the word robber comes from rob Roy ??
Hello
Like a lot of people's fake claims, Rob Roy MacGregor is my Dad.
So rob Roy was an extortionist
yes my ansistor was that ha ha
Looks like we have a clan
Macgregor DESPITE THEM
as regom macgregom
get youre facts reet he was the marquis of montrose not a duke
Lot of us are decedents of him huh? 😊
Brittney MacGregor yes but my family had to change last names after he died because they were looking for us
Debatable whether Rob Roy is even buried there , in fact most experts would say he isnt.
Nice story for Yank tourists though.
a am to direct descendant ny name is gary relly mt gran was mary nacgre
And what about Archie
The McDonald joke was verra funny, too bad most of them was Chinese....Gregory of MacGregor in America
I'm one of his grandchildren
my name is holly macgregor :)
I'm supposed to be a descendant of the McGregor Clan as well. Pretty cool. I would like to do one of those DNA test, and see how much of my DNA comes up European.
You mean there wasn’t an evil 🦹 English henchmen for real to keep his foot on the poor downtrodden locals like in the film.
How disappointing
ah thought mac was Scottish n mc wis irish. but interesting video.
Mac, Mc and M' are all Scottish variations meaning "Son of".
Star Wars is more historically accurate than Braveheart
Szkocki Janosik
Evidently Allan MacDonald went to America where his descendant's open a hamburger establishment.; MCDONALDS.
he can live again by ressurrection.acts24.15
Never let actual history and culture stand in the way of good bullshit for tourists. This 'presentation' is almost as bad as the movie starring Liam Neeson! This guy is obviously NOT a Gaelic speaker. EVERY single Gaelic definition is not only badly pronounced and completely wrongly defined. Clearly he offers nothing about the culture of the Gael.
1. 'Gregorach' does not not mean 'Children of the mist' That would have to be 'Clann a' cheo'. 'Gregorach' from Gaelic 'Griogarach' simply means MacGregor. The plural 'Griogaraich' means MacGregors. The suffix ' -ach' more often that never denoted your patriarchal lineage i.e. of the common progenitor.
2. In the Gaidhealtachd, folks rarely used 'mac' except in reference to their own father's first name. This was called the 'sloinneadh'. So 'mac' simply means 'son' and ONLY means "son of" when used in front of the name of the progenitor.
3. Mc or Mic does NOT mean "second son", but is simply the genitive of 'mac', and even then has to lenient in use i.e. son of son of would be 'mac mhic' or 'mac 'ic'.
4. Roy from the Gaelic 'Ruadh' means copper-red and not "bright red" which would be 'dearg'.
5. Nowhere in the great elegy ' Marbhrann do Rob Ruadh' (69 lines) is Rob ever referred to as a "cattle thief". Highland custom demanded proof of strength and stealth when carrying out a traditional 'creach' (pronounced kre-ach). i.e. the ability to move live stock from one area to another without leaving trace. This was recognised in the Highlands as part of their military training and essential for leadership and extolled in piobaireachd songs such as ' Togail nam Bo' as well as the heroic panegyrics. .
6. Rob did not invent the 'watch service' - that was his father Domhnall Glas. This was a legitimate service of protection endorsed by the government on renewal license.
7. The term 'mail from the Gaelic 'mal' does not mean 'money'' but means 'rent'. We get the 'Black Watch' from this.
8. Rob had ALWAYS been 'big' in the cattle industry and had been business partner with Montrose for 20 + years before his troubles with him began, indeed owned over 7,000 acres of land, and held the barony of Inversnaid.
9. There is nor evidence that the herdsman was called "Allan", although he may have been a MacDonald or perhaps 'Donald' having been his father's name.
10. It was actually 12 and not 7 years on the run.
11. Rob died at the age of 63 NOT '64' (1671 - 1734).
12. The dispute between the MacLarens and the MacGregors of Balquidder (there were many branches) was not over "cattle" but over the land of Innernenty.
13. Rob did NOT die seven days after the sword-wound, but gangrene (not septicemia) had set in due to the blade having been rusted that wounded him by 'Stewart of Inbhir na h-iolaire'. (an Appin household). It took the whole summer and autumn of 1734 for the disease to spread.
14. It was NOT the 'British' government' who firstly made the MacGregor name illegal since the first proscriptions of the use of their name can be traced back to 16th Century Scotland i.e. pre-union, and intermittently, long before that.
15. Also this is NOT the FINAL resting place of Rob Roy.
Conclusion: Out of a total score of 15 (fifteen)you have scored a total of : 0 (zero)
Finishing comments: I can't see how any 'historian' would "join this 'guide' on ANY theory". But this is typical of the state of heritage in Scotland and is indeed endemic. Outsiders who have no bond nor link let loose on a culture that the have no connection or empathy with is the cultural plague of a nation that doesn' t give a shit about its own culture. Instead they laugh at, and mock genuine tradition-bearers and genuine patriots, such as the great ' Highland Partisan ', Rob Roy MacGregor.. It's like agonsingly enduring watching 'Joe from the Bronx' trying to tell the tale or relating ethos of 'Chief Seattle' ! It is deconstructionism fueled by generational anti-Highland sentiment.
Ach, history is a story, this guy is a storyteller and he does a good job. Most people wouldn't have heard of Rob Roy but for myth and legend. I'd rather listen to this guy than listen to you.
Timberbush Tours, you should be ashamed of what you make money from.
I’m related to this guy
Same on my dad side of the family