What makes them so popular? Well for me it was the fact that they got 5 tours in the desert in Iraq and the mountains of Afghanistan and worked incredibly well in both. Sturdy and rugged enough for 3-4 day missions where your carrying 80+ pounds of gear and light and nimble enough for the in and out door kicking in the urban warfare. They just work well and last great.
@@availablehage I’d compare it to a good all terrain tire in mud. Does it work? Yes is it a super swamper? No. But unless the only thing you want with it is to go through a bog then I’d rather have the all terrain
It served me well from Everest base camp, to Kanchenjungha BC to Annapurna, to rain forests of Java and Sumatra. Stays totally waterproof for 30 days plus+ (I haven't tested its capability beyond that). Excellent grip in almost any terrain. Excellent toe guard, protects your foot like a feather in the rugged high mountain down trail. Ortholite is an excellent addition for flat footers (like me). Highly recommended.
I bought my first pair Quest 4D over 4 years ago. I’ve worn them on countless hikes as well as weekend wear. A year ago I switched jobs a year ago and they became my daily wear. I’m former LEO and have worn many different boots. These are hands down my favorite and I just bought my second pair today.
I wear these for work boots as well as hiking. They are the perfect work boot if you dont stand in place all day or need saftey toes. They do feel very light for how much support they give. They are just better than any boot ive ever owned because the way i feel at the end of the day. Ive worn these 40hrs a week for 4 years and i cant imagine switching to something else
Wow very interesting , I need a gore-tex work book capable of munching miles. My current Hanwag Banks said to have them checked every 6 years and I wore them out in 9 months , the Vibram soles are not durable enough
As with my other Salomoms these are so comfortable out of the box , apart from the crippling plastic piece that pushes into the outside of your foot, I found this a mile into a walk, it’s horrendous on rocky uneven ground as they transfer pressure from the sole into the side of your foot. I’ve had Salomon boots for twenty years and this is the first time I’ve experienced this in any footwear.
Best boots Ive bought. 8/14hours a day, 5 days a week. Kept my feet warm and dry on every occasion. And like you said they don't make your feet feel bashed up and the end of the day. Great boots for sure 👌
I just bougth a pair for my trip in Corsica next week. They seem to be confortable and very ankle supportive (I really need that). I hope they won’t disappoint me next week.
I think these boots are great for long distances on dry, technical trails. They are incredibly comfortable. But for winter walking in the UK, especially on places like Dartmoor or places in Wales, where it's boggy and wet all the time, the boots are almost useless at keeping your feet dry. I'd rather have dry feet with less comfort, which is why I eventually ditched the Salomon's and went for Meindl Bhutans (leather boots), which, whilst not the most comfortable, certainly work well at keeping your feet dry during hours of trekking through wet ground.
The Soloman Quest 4 is my second choice as I have been trying to locate a pair of Mammut Sapuen High Gortex boots with an orange color in a size 8 for the past 3 months with no luck. The Mammut boots are less than half the weight of the Soloman and at close to 80 years old that makes a hugh difference!! It also has a steel shank and uses memory foam for a perfect fit. Living in Prescott, AZ I do a lot of hiking in the Sierra Nevada Mts. and deserts in AZ and Utah. The Mammut has only 1 disadvantage and that is it may not be the best choice in the desert even with Gortex construction. If I am not able to find the Mammut boot in the next 2 weeks I will have no choice but to buy the Soloman.
Thanks for the review Will. Been looking at these for my next purchase and I was looking for a boot that could handle bogs on my river explores and multi day on various ground. This sounds like the boot. Chees. Mark
I agree with everything you've stated having thrashed a pair of 4D 3 GTX's in rough filthy terrain throughout this last winter . I rotate the use of the Salomons between a pair of Han Wag Tatra's + Zamberlan Vioz GTX Darwin's - all boots get similar wear and treatment . Unfortunately the Salomons build quality is already showing signs of fatigue and looking , at the present decline rate , like they'll not remain waterproof for another six months . All damage is occurring from bottom of tongue where on right boot the suede has already actually split to the sole , forward to toecap protection mouldings which on both boots the rubber/plastic has detached from the suede in multiple places that will inevitably join to create larger 'fault' areas etc. I do not use Hydrobloc or similar wax products on any Vortex lined boots as I ALWAYS blast them clean before allowing them days to dry off naturally in a cool dark hallway . Neither of the other 2 pairs are showing ANY sign of structural weakness . Prior to last year I've invariably bought one very good pair of boots £200+ once a year and worn them everyday until (usually) the soles wear through ; the Salomons wouldn't last 6 months if so treated . In short , if you're not doing more than 10-15miles a week in any conditions they'll , maybe , last a couple of years ; if you do more than 20 miles a week they'll prob not last a year . I love these boots so it is terribly disappointing to think to replace with a different make . They were £70 and £50 cheaper than other pairs , but , at £179 I had hoped for more .
@@vikingmountain8348 Thanku kindly for this info - guarantees hadn't occurred to me . I can't remember from whom I bought them - bank statement time , yawn . My pair continue to crack and generally head toward falling apart at a shocking rate ; ironically , I'm having to wear them more cos the Han Wag heel tread has worn through , which again is very disappointing . They've lasted under a year with partial use - resoleable but not through Cotswold where I bought them !!? I'm gonna look at Zamberlan''s Trail Lite range hoping to find something light that'll last . PS I'll google your new boots*
the quality of these boots is truly disappointing to say the least... I've gone to 3 pairs in less than 2 years. All had crumbling soles and GTX failure. My last pair lasted 3 months... I easily do 20 miles each week.
@@den_bosmens_outdoor Mine have deteriorated more since posting ; they are now 'ragged' , cracked everywhere ; and 'not quite' waterproof . Shitcore . I am about to send them back , guarantee etc. , but it's all a massive pain in the f*nking arse eh . Anyone reading this ~ DONT buy these boots unless you're a "towny" looking for "good looking" boots for bad weather in the park . They do not stand up to , even , moderate use if worn everyday in tough conditions . They are lush comfortable , light , good looking ; BUT , shit quality .
@@adzdahlman9724 I know, these stand up to nothing. 3 months of use and deteriorating soles is not normal. There is a structural problem with these boots. I just had to offer to replace them with a voucher, but no similar sizes or boots are in stock so that is a shitty deal...
Great Video..thanks..I've been researching and reading alot about the Salomon hikers. In your opinion would you prefer the Quest over the X Ultra . ? I wear a 11.5 to 12 and wide shoe. Looking for a good hiking mid shoe for wet conditions.. I was thinking of getting the X Ultra 4. I unfortunately order a low rise Salomon x utra 3 and its too narrow. Thanks for any help
Great video. How are the sizing of these boots? Are they accurate for U.K. sizes? I.e. is a size 46 equivalent to a UK 11? I use Merrill boots and their sizing is way out with U.K. sizing. Their size 12 boots are equivalent to a U.K. 11. Very confusing.
Just found your video, I thought at last a review the replicates my real world hiking in Ireland, after having major leaking in my 14 month old 500km Merrell MOAB's and resorting to plastic bags on my feet on a 50KM Road Bog more Bog bit of trail and then more Bog walk over two days I have had enough - will certainly check these out
Love how you make it sound like your own personal opinion when you talk about what these boots might be good for, but you've actually just used the blurb from the Salomon website. Verbatim. 🤣 This is why CZcams reviews are not reviews...they are sales pitches dressed up as reviews. Just be honest 🤷🏻♂️...great boot though 👍🏻
Thank you for the review. I'm thinking about buying these boots. I would use them in the summer, too. Do you think they would be too hot or heavy? Thank you.
The Salomons Quest 4D (Forces) are among my favourite boots, but... I have returned 2 pairs of Mk1 in 3 years with major sole defects and GTX failure. I am now on my 3rd pair, the Mk2 let's say, and I notice that also in this 2nd version the sole is not as good as it should be. The heel is crumbling after a good 3 months of use... To be fair, Salomon replaced the boots 2 times without a problem because of their 2 yr warranty, so that is nice, but it isn't normal. It really is a big flaw on these boots. And ok, I use these boots hard and often, but that is why I have the Forces version. So for the harder jobs I always use my military Meindl Island Pro MFS boots, indestructable and reliable.
Approx. how many kms until they fell apart? The Vibram sole on my La Sportiva's are disintegrating in 3 months too, but I'm reading online people say boot life is like 800kms (which is in line with them failing), to me that's very quick, I can do that in under 3 months. I guess I'm trying to calibrate my expectations and see how fast other hard use hikers burn through boots.
3:23 Durability does not sell boots. Reviewers rarely have that type of long term perspective, as things move too fast nowadays. I think consumers can be much more attentive to sustainability than what they are. Even the top end leather boots nowadays include technology that really does not last more than five years, like the gore tex lining inside of the boot and the soft rubber of the vibram soles. Thanksfully, you can at least repair those, and, if you treat the leather nicely, a boot may last 10 years or more depending on how much you use them.
It sold me! When I was shopping at REI I mentioned I valued durability and was told without getting a leather boot. That these would be one of the most durable and would last longer compared to other mesh boots because the quests are reinforced in what would be common failure points in other boots.
@@RsDefcon theres never a rule without exceptions, I was commenting on the larger picture. we dont have time, so usually people dont have time to wear them out either.
I've got da shoes X ultra 4 Gore-tex, they are super comfy. However, I find the soles pick up a lot of small stones and muck, painful to clean. Also at this time of year couch grass seeds get stuck in fabric, inside shoe, inner sole etc. But they do ok playing footy with dog. I've got an old pair of Salomans for walking and they do the same with the stones but great support. I think I may go back to leather boots - Brashers lightweight with gortex inner because they are just easier and keep my feet relatively dry - up to top of ankle. Appreciate vid, thanks.
I've bought myself a pair, but I am getting pains on the outside of my foot from them. It seems like the plastic thingy that rises from the sole up towards the laces digs in to my foot, and since this is hard plastic, i doubt it will get better with break-in... Just looking a the construction, I find it wierd that they have this hard thing sticking up, as potential presure-points are usually something you wish to avoid in a shoe or boot.
I haven't tried it yet - my impression is it's a bit gimmicky but I might be proved wrong when I try it! I enjoyed testing the Hoka One One Stinson Mid though. Will
i find them great on wet rock. unless its polished or moss covered. sole longevity isnt great because of the soft stickiness in them. the grip almost anything
I struggle getting a tight fit on the laces especially round the tongue - Any suggestions ? Also I have inserted a sports insole for more comfort would that be ok ?
David. curious, if you are still out there. are you in a wide boot vs regular width. for me these are low volume so that obviously isnt the issue. superfeet etc will bring your arch up, Narrowing the foot. it also puts your angle in neutral positiopn. i change out the insoles with every pair. tightening up. plant your foot on an incline, let gravity pull your foot back into heel cup. tighten toes work upward. the instep lock really does work to isolate the upper and lower boot
Comfy out of the box. That's where the positives end. Had 5 pairs (3 of the 4D GTX). All fell apart or leaked within months. Salomon are happy to replace with their 2 year warranty and I could have kept it going for years. Never again.
from someone who has worn both. i think quests offer better lateral support for off trail hiking signifivantly traversing. the grip is better for rock scrambling, but the tread doesnt last as long. however i heard the new 4 is slightly harder rubber
How is the durability i work as a mailman and we go through lots of shoes. I will be wearing them everyday walking up to 8 to 10km a day. Also how does it perform in the winter?
I’m torn as to whether to purchase these boots or not. I’ve read a number of buyer reviews who claim they fall apart and leak in a short time of having them. I’ve recently read a blog by a trekker who claims his Salomon did wear and tear very quickly and was blogging about a pair of Bestard Breithorn boots and rating them better durability. In the other hand, I’ve been reading really positive stuff about the Quest 4D boot too. Part of me thinks the negative reviews are from people who haven’t done the routine boot cleaning care and drying of the boot.
Same problem I'm having. I also just really love the way these boots look. I know that shouldn't be your highest criteria when looking for footwear, but I really do love the design of them.
There are always going to be complaints about boots no matter what you buy. I just purchased a pair of Lowa Caminos that blew out in 5 miles. That's a top-of-the-line boot there was obviously a manufacturing hiccup. I use those for winter hiking and the Solomons for everything else. Never had an issue
@@MisfitsFiendClub138 I purchased a pair of Mammut Trovat Tour High back in October. They are amazing boots. They've taken everything Dartmoor can throw at them. They're insanely good boots. I read too many negatives about the Salomon boots. Enough to make me not purchase them.
I have an older pair of salomon quest 4d and I love them. Great comfort. Yes they're not light but not heavy either. I've worn them on short hikes to all day treks. Very happy with them. I've had Merrell and wasn't impressed. Yes Merrell stands by there products but for the price they don't last long and there waterproofing isn't the best. Merrell should've stuck with gortex. I've had under armour boots and they were really nice. Lasted well too. Had another pair of Salomon mid boots but they seem very narrow. I think the x ultra 3. Great grip but as I said very narrow.
Merrell are comfortable shoes but their goretex lining doesn't seem to be as well designed as my Scarpa's. I think the issue is the seams. All Merrell shoes I've bought have leaked within a year. Salomon are better made than Merrell and Scarpas are better still but not quite as comfortable. Columbia seem to be surprisingly tough for the money. Not always the most technical but outdry works well for me and they stand-up to abuse.
Would these be suitable for a 7-day trek in Nepal during the dry season? I understand that there can be some snow at higher elevations of the trek I will be doing, but mostly dry.
These are wider than the x ultra 3. I have them as well and bought the quests on a lucky find. Far more comfortable and yes definitely wider than the x ultras. Unless you normally wear wides you should be good
I have my Meindl German mountain boots from cold winter walks but just cant find a walking shoe that doent let water in after walking 90 minuets over the downs on wet grass. The Adidas terrex i bought yesterday resulted in socks i had to wring out. Both pair of Gortex merrels i ended up with damo feet as did my Karimore shoes . If only i can find a true waterproof walking shoe
I walked 85 miles on flat ground, around Chicago, so light but my left lttile toes nail is black, boots are so comftable and light, wore them for 4 days inc in flight, maybe it's my left foot :P
I'm new to hiking. We've been doing a day hike, mostly short ones, every week for some time now. Would these be overkill? What else would be recommendable?
I think they'd only be overkill if you're planning to wear them primarily on easy hikes over hot days. If the temperature is mild to cold, I don't think they'd necessarily be overkill on any off-road terrain. If you do want something for easy hikes in hot weather, you might be better off looking for some walking shoes, rather than boots. Hope that helps! Will
@@OutdoorsMagicTV we only get hot days 6-8 weeks out of the year, and I wouldn't really call them hot. But I guess it's considered hot for the northwest USA. Then it seems these will be good for me. Thanks for sharing your perspective!
Zamberlan boots are the business . I've thrashed every boot on the planet . Salomon's are light , comfy , good looking , waterproof...? , but not for long . Honestly - look at Zamberlan Trail Lites - however that's spelt P.S.. ... BUT...... If you are only wearing them for ten milesish , or less a week , they are very comfortable boots . The soles are grippier and more tactile than Vibram , and , in my opinion , these are extremely lightweight boots . They are waterproof until they start falling apart ha ha .
I live in NYC and in the summer, even when it gets to the mid 90s with wool socks, these boots don't smother my feet. I tend to overheat quickly too, so I really trust these boots. I've worn the previous model, wet, when it dropped to the teens F and my toes didn't get too cold either. I love these things and think you'd be well served on day hikes. They might be a little more than what you need, but you'll have room to grow if you take on more intense trips.
My continued ramblings concerned the Salomon boots . All Zamberlans are lush . Salomon s , could be up there but for the unpredictable quality of products used . Even on the same boot . On my boots now , all the nubuck/suede has cracked to shit - if Salomon used good quality leather etc. their boots would rock . Alas they don't . Still looking for the bank statement to return the f*cking things . Big yawns .
I just bought the X Ultra 3 boots for day hikes. Very comfortable. Might go for these when I get into multi day backpacking trips. I have read the quests can be overkill for a moderate hike
No mate . I have narrow size and they fit like a glove . I reckon a broad foot would exacerbate the pressure even more so where sole meets suede around at widest point of the foot . Mine are truly falling apart , everything is coming unstuck , the suede is cracking through to the goretex more by the week . They are extremely comfy but , with extra stretch , wouldn't last 6 months . Dig deeper and get Zamberlans , £2 - £300 will get you a Bently instead of an MG*
Well, I'm sure being endorsed by almost every soldier, SEAL, or Green Beret helps popularity for the Quest line of boots. How are the new Quest 4 GTX boots holding up? When I look at recent reviews of all of their new lineup of the 4 series like Ultra 4 GTX, tons of bad reviews from the people that have actually put them to the test and not just casually wear them. Seems like the newest products from Salomon may have taken a huge hit in quality in the last year or two. Maybe it's covid related, changing suppliers or something. All I'm seeing recently is SOLD OUT and mediocore reviews for Salomon.
I Bought a pair in the UK and the moment it rained they filled with water, I had to hike 200 miles with wet feet everyday, boot tops were covered by goretex pants so water came through so called Goretex membrane, my feet were ruined. But I did get my money back on warranty from Go outdoors. (great company). Now its 100% one piece leather with a ton of beeswax and never had wet feet again.
After 8 months of steady hiking on easy to moderate trails they are coming apart. Both toe caps are separating and the right one has a cracked sole. Definitely not worth $250 USD
For anybody that does serious hiking. Look elsewhere. The lugs on the garbage contagrip soles fell apart from one day of hiking looking for shed antlers. Sad cause everything else about the boot is super nice. Saloman needs to ditch the contagrip and put vibrams on these.
If anybody is interested in these boots id highly advise against. The older quest are way better however since the quest 4, the quality is absolutely shocking, profit over quality unfortunately, a few months in these and ive returned them, leaking like made and absolutely no grip, comfy as hell however only plus side to them but the plastic crap on the side digs into your foot
I feel the same way, yet I have had three pairs so far and I'm still tempted by these. They're just so comfortable. I used to have Meindl Bhutans and they were exhausting to wear and in the end they leaked too. I think that with boots there's a tendency to think they will last for years because people say they do, but this doesn't account for the real metric which is mileage. Salomons are not a tough boot but they are really comfortable straight out the box: thus they are a low mileage luxury boot and will need replacing sooner than comparable priced boots.
Agreed. I used Salomon Quests for many years for Dartmoor hiking. Amazingly comfortable, but always leaked eventually. Recently got some Meindl Bhutans which are definitely more durable and waterproof, but no where near as comfortable. It's a trade off really. Comfort but wet feet, or dry but achy/blistered feet.
They are some of the worst boots I’ve ever owned. Terrible grip on wet slippy rocks no feeling through the sole and take ages to dry out. My Matterhorns were way way better
I love watching these videos to see how wild Will's lockdown hair gets...
The situation is critical now.
What makes them so popular? Well for me it was the fact that they got 5 tours in the desert in Iraq and the mountains of Afghanistan and worked incredibly well in both. Sturdy and rugged enough for 3-4 day missions where your carrying 80+ pounds of gear and light and nimble enough for the in and out door kicking in the urban warfare. They just work well and last great.
Thank you for your service.
Good enough for me. Thanks for everything.
Does it serve in slippery mud tracks? You could help me a bit
@@availablehage I’d compare it to a good all terrain tire in mud. Does it work? Yes is it a super swamper? No. But unless the only thing you want with it is to go through a bog then I’d rather have the all terrain
@@PaulMcCabe 🤣🤣🤣
It served me well from Everest base camp, to Kanchenjungha BC to Annapurna, to rain forests of Java and Sumatra. Stays totally waterproof for 30 days plus+ (I haven't tested its capability beyond that). Excellent grip in almost any terrain. Excellent toe guard, protects your foot like a feather in the rugged high mountain down trail. Ortholite is an excellent addition for flat footers (like me). Highly recommended.
I bought my first pair Quest 4D over 4 years ago. I’ve worn them on countless hikes as well as weekend wear. A year ago I switched jobs a year ago and they became my daily wear. I’m former LEO and have worn many different boots. These are hands down my favorite and I just bought my second pair today.
Thanks for the review. Haven’t worn them in a few years, but when it comes time to get new boots I will have them on my short list.
I wear these for work boots as well as hiking. They are the perfect work boot if you dont stand in place all day or need saftey toes. They do feel very light for how much support they give. They are just better than any boot ive ever owned because the way i feel at the end of the day. Ive worn these 40hrs a week for 4 years and i cant imagine switching to something else
Wow very interesting , I need a gore-tex work book capable of munching miles. My current Hanwag Banks said to have them checked every 6 years and I wore them out in 9 months , the Vibram soles are not durable enough
As with my other Salomoms these are so comfortable out of the box , apart from the crippling plastic piece that pushes into the outside of your foot, I found this a mile into a walk, it’s horrendous on rocky uneven ground as they transfer pressure from the sole into the side of your foot. I’ve had Salomon boots for twenty years and this is the first time I’ve experienced this in any footwear.
Best boots Ive bought. 8/14hours a day, 5 days a week. Kept my feet warm and dry on every occasion. And like you said they don't make your feet feel bashed up and the end of the day. Great boots for sure 👌
I brought a pair of these in February but found them to be really bulky, I then brought a pair of Mammut Ducan Highs and they are amazing.
WOWWW That is a very good review. Thank you sir 👍👍👍
I just bougth a pair for my trip in Corsica next week. They seem to be confortable and very ankle supportive (I really need that). I hope they won’t disappoint me next week.
Had mine for 13 years. Still use them.
I think these boots are great for long distances on dry, technical trails. They are incredibly comfortable. But for winter walking in the UK, especially on places like Dartmoor or places in Wales, where it's boggy and wet all the time, the boots are almost useless at keeping your feet dry. I'd rather have dry feet with less comfort, which is why I eventually ditched the Salomon's and went for Meindl Bhutans (leather boots), which, whilst not the most comfortable, certainly work well at keeping your feet dry during hours of trekking through wet ground.
Thanks for this
The Soloman Quest 4 is my second choice as I have been trying to locate a pair of Mammut Sapuen High Gortex boots with an orange color in a size 8 for the past 3 months with no luck. The Mammut boots are less than half the weight of the Soloman and at close to 80 years old that makes a hugh difference!! It also has a steel shank and uses memory foam for a perfect fit. Living in Prescott, AZ I do a lot of hiking in the Sierra Nevada Mts. and deserts in AZ and Utah. The Mammut has only 1 disadvantage and that is it may not be the best choice in the desert even with Gortex construction. If I am not able to find the Mammut boot in the next 2 weeks I will have no choice but to buy the Soloman.
Thanks for the review Will. Been looking at these for my next purchase and I was looking for a boot that could handle bogs on my river explores and multi day on various ground. This sounds like the boot. Chees. Mark
coool. need some
I wore Hokas in Afghanistan for the rough terrain for 3 months and they handled very well and still wore them two years after in California
I agree with everything you've stated having thrashed a pair of 4D 3 GTX's in rough filthy terrain throughout this last winter . I rotate the use of the Salomons between a pair of Han Wag Tatra's + Zamberlan Vioz GTX Darwin's - all boots get similar wear and treatment . Unfortunately the Salomons build quality is already showing signs of fatigue and looking , at the present decline rate , like they'll not remain waterproof for another six months . All damage is occurring from bottom of tongue where on right boot the suede has already actually split to the sole , forward to toecap protection mouldings which on both boots the rubber/plastic has detached from the suede in multiple places that will inevitably join to create larger 'fault' areas etc. I do not use Hydrobloc or similar wax products on any Vortex lined boots as I ALWAYS blast them clean before allowing them days to dry off naturally in a cool dark hallway . Neither of the other 2 pairs are showing ANY sign of structural weakness . Prior to last year I've invariably bought one very good pair of boots £200+ once a year and worn them everyday until (usually) the soles wear through ; the Salomons wouldn't last 6 months if so treated . In short , if you're not doing more than 10-15miles a week in any conditions they'll , maybe , last a couple of years ; if you do more than 20 miles a week they'll prob not last a year . I love these boots so it is terribly disappointing to think to replace with a different make . They were £70 and £50 cheaper than other pairs , but , at £179 I had hoped for more .
Salomon have 2 years warranty I just pass mine and have the x alp gore-tex forces suppose to have them on June 2 :)
@@vikingmountain8348 Thanku kindly for this info - guarantees hadn't occurred to me . I can't remember from whom I bought them - bank statement time , yawn . My pair continue to crack and generally head toward falling apart at a shocking rate ; ironically , I'm having to wear them more cos the Han Wag heel tread has worn through , which again is very disappointing . They've lasted under a year with partial use - resoleable but not through Cotswold where I bought them !!? I'm gonna look at Zamberlan''s Trail Lite range hoping to find something light that'll last .
PS I'll google your new boots*
the quality of these boots is truly disappointing to say the least... I've gone to 3 pairs in less than 2 years. All had crumbling soles and GTX failure. My last pair lasted 3 months... I easily do 20 miles each week.
@@den_bosmens_outdoor Mine have deteriorated more since posting ; they are now 'ragged' , cracked everywhere ; and 'not quite' waterproof . Shitcore . I am about to send them back , guarantee etc. , but it's all a massive pain in the f*nking arse eh . Anyone reading this ~ DONT buy these boots unless you're a "towny" looking for "good looking" boots for bad weather in the park . They do not stand up to , even , moderate use if worn everyday in tough conditions . They are lush comfortable , light , good looking ; BUT , shit quality .
@@adzdahlman9724 I know, these stand up to nothing. 3 months of use and deteriorating soles is not normal. There is a structural problem with these boots. I just had to offer to replace them with a voucher, but no similar sizes or boots are in stock so that is a shitty deal...
I have two pairs. I have had these since 2016. The pair I am wearing now are my oldest. Still nice to wear for dirty jobs
Great review
Hey Will! Great video….how did these boots hold up over the year since you’ve had these?
Great Video..thanks..I've been researching and reading alot about the Salomon hikers.
In your opinion would you prefer the Quest over the X Ultra . ? I wear a 11.5 to 12 and wide shoe. Looking for a good hiking mid shoe for wet conditions..
I was thinking of getting the X Ultra 4.
I unfortunately order a low rise Salomon x utra 3 and its too narrow.
Thanks for any help
Now all I can think about is the Neolithic people hehe how did they keep their feet dry
Barefoot!
Leather shoes
Im about to buy my third pair!
Great video. How are the sizing of these boots? Are they accurate for U.K. sizes? I.e. is a size 46 equivalent to a UK 11? I use Merrill boots and their sizing is way out with U.K. sizing. Their size 12 boots are equivalent to a U.K. 11. Very confusing.
Just found your video, I thought at last a review the replicates my real world hiking in Ireland, after having major leaking in my 14 month old 500km Merrell MOAB's and resorting to plastic bags on my feet on a 50KM Road Bog more Bog bit of trail and then more Bog walk over two days I have had enough - will certainly check these out
Thanks for the comment. This was filmed in west Wales just across the water from you 😄
Love how you make it sound like your own personal opinion when you talk about what these boots might be good for, but you've actually just used the blurb from the Salomon website. Verbatim. 🤣 This is why CZcams reviews are not reviews...they are sales pitches dressed up as reviews. Just be honest 🤷🏻♂️...great boot though 👍🏻
Thank you for the review. I'm thinking about buying these boots. I would use them in the summer, too. Do you think they would be too hot or heavy? Thank you.
I’m going to start every day on trail now with “let’s get cracking.”
Channel intro is shorter than it takes me to move the mouse to skip it. Well played sir.
You wanna get some Gators btw 🤣, needed these in Brecon yesterday. Just ordered myself a pair of Olive Green ones. Hopefully they’ll do the trick!
Finally upgraded from Under Armour Newell ridge to these. 🤙
Great Video, quick question. You said that you had owned the 4d 3's, would you recommend this boot over the older version?
Thanks! Yes I'd say so. The change isn't radical but it's not a regression. Will
The Salomons Quest 4D (Forces) are among my favourite boots, but... I have returned 2 pairs of Mk1 in 3 years with major sole defects and GTX failure. I am now on my 3rd pair, the Mk2 let's say, and I notice that also in this 2nd version the sole is not as good as it should be. The heel is crumbling after a good 3 months of use... To be fair, Salomon replaced the boots 2 times without a problem because of their 2 yr warranty, so that is nice, but it isn't normal. It really is a big flaw on these boots. And ok, I use these boots hard and often, but that is why I have the Forces version. So for the harder jobs I always use my military Meindl Island Pro MFS boots, indestructable and reliable.
Approx. how many kms until they fell apart? The Vibram sole on my La Sportiva's are disintegrating in 3 months too, but I'm reading online people say boot life is like 800kms (which is in line with them failing), to me that's very quick, I can do that in under 3 months. I guess I'm trying to calibrate my expectations and see how fast other hard use hikers burn through boots.
Thanks for your video.
What would you recommend on sizing, would you recommend half or full size up or are they ok with normal UK sizing.
No problem. I'd say you can stick with your usual UK size. Will
Nice review, Thanks. What camera/ lens do you use to film yourself.? Thanks.
Thanks. Just. Gopro Hero 8 and then a little Canon M10
Good looking boots, but I hear far too many complaints about durability to ever buy a pair.
3:23 Durability does not sell boots. Reviewers rarely have that type of long term perspective, as things move too fast nowadays. I think consumers can be much more attentive to sustainability than what they are. Even the top end leather boots nowadays include technology that really does not last more than five years, like the gore tex lining inside of the boot and the soft rubber of the vibram soles. Thanksfully, you can at least repair those, and, if you treat the leather nicely, a boot may last 10 years or more depending on how much you use them.
It sold me! When I was shopping at REI I mentioned I valued durability and was told without getting a leather boot. That these would be one of the most durable and would last longer compared to other mesh boots because the quests are reinforced in what would be common failure points in other boots.
@@RsDefcon theres never a rule without exceptions, I was commenting on the larger picture. we dont have time, so usually people dont have time to wear them out either.
I've got da shoes X ultra 4 Gore-tex, they are super comfy. However, I find the soles pick up a lot of small stones and muck, painful to clean. Also at this time of year couch grass seeds get stuck in fabric, inside shoe, inner sole etc. But they do ok playing footy with dog. I've got an old pair of Salomans for walking and they do the same with the stones but great support. I think I may go back to leather boots - Brashers lightweight with gortex inner because they are just easier and keep my feet relatively dry - up to top of ankle. Appreciate vid, thanks.
I've bought myself a pair, but I am getting pains on the outside of my foot from them. It seems like the plastic thingy that rises from the sole up towards the laces digs in to my foot, and since this is hard plastic, i doubt it will get better with break-in...
Just looking a the construction, I find it wierd that they have this hard thing sticking up, as potential presure-points are usually something you wish to avoid in a shoe or boot.
Are they direct-attached like other hiking boots?
They also make a quest 4 goretex advanced that cost a bit more any idea if what the difference is between them?
Thanks for the review Will.
What do you think of the new Hoka one one Tennine hike gtx?
I haven't tried it yet - my impression is it's a bit gimmicky but I might be proved wrong when I try it! I enjoyed testing the Hoka One One Stinson Mid though. Will
@@OutdoorsMagicTV thanks for your response. Much appreciated! Looking forward to your next video.
Loved everything about my last pair apart from the sole ,terrible on wet rock ,hopefully a vibram soles boot will be better
Salomon do have a version of their Contragrip with better grip on wet rock - but it doesn't seem to be used here. Will
i find them great on wet rock. unless its polished or moss covered. sole longevity isnt great because of the soft stickiness in them. the grip almost anything
I struggle getting a tight fit on the laces especially round the tongue - Any suggestions ? Also I have inserted a sports insole for more comfort would that be ok ?
David. curious, if you are still out there. are you in a wide boot vs regular width. for me these are low volume so that obviously isnt the issue. superfeet etc will bring your arch up, Narrowing the foot. it also puts your angle in neutral positiopn. i change out the insoles with every pair. tightening up. plant your foot on an incline, let gravity pull your foot back into heel cup. tighten toes work upward. the instep lock really does work to isolate the upper and lower boot
Great video would you get a size up i take size 7 in a shoe would you get a size 8 in this boot
My first pair of hiking. How do u tie these boots
Is it waterproof… can use in snow ? Quest 4 or northface vectiv u can advice ?
Comfy out of the box. That's where the positives end. Had 5 pairs (3 of the 4D GTX). All fell apart or leaked within months.
Salomon are happy to replace with their 2 year warranty and I could have kept it going for years.
Never again.
i'm just curious why after the first two or three... or four... you still got more?
@@fre3radic4l because he's full of s h i t
I imagine if they could be good for the really hot weather of places like Middle East, South America or Africa.
If you have a choice between Columbia vs Solomon shoes , which would you prefer especially from trekking and backpacking point of view.?
from someone who has worn both. i think quests offer better lateral support for off trail hiking signifivantly traversing. the grip is better for rock scrambling, but the tread doesnt last as long. however i heard the new 4 is slightly harder rubber
@@michaelgeorge3092 thanks
I always assumed these were so popular, because the previous boot (3D) was incredible...
Have you tried the quest element salomon boot?
How is the durability i work as a mailman and we go through lots of shoes. I will be wearing them everyday walking up to 8 to 10km a day. Also how does it perform in the winter?
Salomons are great...for a week! Sometimes for even less. After that, they give up ending up to the trashcan. I'll stick to Hanwag/Lowa.
After seeing the amount of flex they’ve got I think I’ll stick with my scarpa sl’s
I’m torn as to whether to purchase these boots or not. I’ve read a number of buyer reviews who claim they fall apart and leak in a short time of having them. I’ve recently read a blog by a trekker who claims his Salomon did wear and tear very quickly and was blogging about a pair of Bestard Breithorn boots and rating them better durability.
In the other hand, I’ve been reading really positive stuff about the Quest 4D boot too.
Part of me thinks the negative reviews are from people who haven’t done the routine boot cleaning care and drying of the boot.
Same problem I'm having. I also just really love the way these boots look. I know that shouldn't be your highest criteria when looking for footwear, but I really do love the design of them.
There are always going to be complaints about boots no matter what you buy. I just purchased a pair of Lowa Caminos that blew out in 5 miles. That's a top-of-the-line boot there was obviously a manufacturing hiccup. I use those for winter hiking and the Solomons for everything else. Never had an issue
@@paddlefaster I went with Mammut Trovat Tour High GTX in the end. Had them since October last year and they are superb!
The Salomon Quest 4 GTX has a fantastic design for comfort, but the materials are very poor quality. This boot will fail you in less than a year
@@MisfitsFiendClub138 I purchased a pair of Mammut Trovat Tour High back in October. They are amazing boots. They've taken everything Dartmoor can throw at them. They're insanely good boots.
I read too many negatives about the Salomon boots. Enough to make me not purchase them.
I have an older pair of salomon quest 4d and I love them. Great comfort. Yes they're not light but not heavy either. I've worn them on short hikes to all day treks. Very happy with them. I've had Merrell and wasn't impressed. Yes Merrell stands by there products but for the price they don't last long and there waterproofing isn't the best. Merrell should've stuck with gortex. I've had under armour boots and they were really nice. Lasted well too. Had another pair of Salomon mid boots but they seem very narrow. I think the x ultra 3. Great grip but as I said very narrow.
Agree there, nice boots but narrow. Shame as my merrell's don't grip as the sight of rain
Merrell are comfortable shoes but their goretex lining doesn't seem to be as well designed as my Scarpa's. I think the issue is the seams. All Merrell shoes I've bought have leaked within a year. Salomon are better made than Merrell and Scarpas are better still but not quite as comfortable. Columbia seem to be surprisingly tough for the money. Not always the most technical but outdry works well for me and they stand-up to abuse.
Would these be suitable for a 7-day trek in Nepal during the dry season? I understand that there can be some snow at higher elevations of the trek I will be doing, but mostly dry.
I'd say so, yes.
Thank you@@OutdoorsMagicTV
Are the mid version better for most, less extreme situations?
Yes, I'd say so. A real all-round that works in the mountains but that's also comfortable enough for casual use. Will
Any reviews of using it on slippery mud slopes and mossy rocks?
yes. its great on wet rock, unless its polished riverrock. mossy rock sucks. mud is fine as i find grip
How's the sizing. I had the x ultra 3 returned to get the x ultra 3 wide. Are these wider than previous version.
These are wider than the x ultra 3. I have them as well and bought the quests on a lucky find. Far more comfortable and yes definitely wider than the x ultras. Unless you normally wear wides you should be good
@@travisfox4305 thank you for remembering and replying. Very helpful.
Do you have to wear Solomon's two sizes bigger than your normal foot size to protect your toes?
No normal size shoe
Go half a size up, they’re amazing boots. Walked up and down in the forests of colorado.
How do you expect them to be durable? They are notorious for leaking after a year of use
What ! They last a year ? I'm gona get two pairs...
Warranty 2 years ;) and trust me they apply the warranty
@@vikingmountain8348 not the point.
I have my Meindl German mountain boots from cold winter walks but just cant find a walking shoe that doent let water in after walking 90 minuets over the downs on wet grass.
The Adidas terrex i bought yesterday resulted in socks i had to wring out.
Both pair of Gortex merrels i ended up with damo feet as did my Karimore shoes .
If only i can find a true waterproof walking shoe
I walked 85 miles on flat ground, around Chicago, so light but my left lttile toes nail is black, boots are so comftable and light, wore them for 4 days inc in flight, maybe it's my left foot :P
I'm new to hiking. We've been doing a day hike, mostly short ones, every week for some time now. Would these be overkill? What else would be recommendable?
I think they'd only be overkill if you're planning to wear them primarily on easy hikes over hot days.
If the temperature is mild to cold, I don't think they'd necessarily be overkill on any off-road terrain.
If you do want something for easy hikes in hot weather, you might be better off looking for some walking shoes, rather than boots.
Hope that helps! Will
@@OutdoorsMagicTV we only get hot days 6-8 weeks out of the year, and I wouldn't really call them hot. But I guess it's considered hot for the northwest USA.
Then it seems these will be good for me. Thanks for sharing your perspective!
Zamberlan boots are the business . I've thrashed every boot on the planet . Salomon's are light , comfy , good looking , waterproof...? , but not for long . Honestly - look at Zamberlan Trail Lites - however that's spelt
P.S.. ... BUT...... If you are only wearing them for ten milesish , or less a week , they are very comfortable boots . The soles are grippier and more tactile than Vibram , and , in my opinion , these are extremely lightweight boots . They are waterproof until they start falling apart ha ha .
I live in NYC and in the summer, even when it gets to the mid 90s with wool socks, these boots don't smother my feet. I tend to overheat quickly too, so I really trust these boots. I've worn the previous model, wet, when it dropped to the teens F and my toes didn't get too cold either. I love these things and think you'd be well served on day hikes. They might be a little more than what you need, but you'll have room to grow if you take on more intense trips.
My continued ramblings concerned the Salomon boots . All Zamberlans are lush . Salomon s , could be up there but for the unpredictable quality of products used . Even on the same boot . On my boots now , all the nubuck/suede has cracked to shit - if Salomon used good quality leather etc. their boots would rock . Alas they don't . Still looking for the bank statement to return the f*cking things . Big yawns .
Is it useable with semi automatic crampons?
I just bought the X Ultra 3 boots for day hikes. Very comfortable. Might go for these when I get into multi day backpacking trips. I have read the quests can be overkill for a moderate hike
Anyone know how they run in size? i’m assuming size down 1 or .5
I like mine
Does the previous model have Cadora?
It had the same type of tough nylon on the tongue and lining the upper, yes. Will
Would this be the terrain used for SAS selection? Very fitting as many SOG’s use Salomon boots!
Would they be too hot for summer ?
How does it perform on wet rock/ ice?
OK on wet rock - but will slip on very slimey stuff. Not too great on ice. Will
double check and then triple check the sizes on any Salomon boots . They are not regular fitting at all
I don't know why but those boots look over size for you
Good for wide feet?
No mate . I have narrow size and they fit like a glove . I reckon a broad foot would exacerbate the pressure even more so where sole meets suede around at widest point of the foot . Mine are truly falling apart , everything is coming unstuck , the suede is cracking through to the goretex more by the week . They are extremely comfy but , with extra stretch , wouldn't last 6 months . Dig deeper and get Zamberlans , £2 - £300 will get you a Bently instead of an MG*
I just like em because they're being used by the military and law enforcement in some tAcTiCaL circumstances in films and series.
Hello can i use crampons on this shoes?
No, I wouldn't recommend it. There's a fair bit of flex to the sole. Will
Well, I'm sure being endorsed by almost every soldier, SEAL, or Green Beret helps popularity for the Quest line of boots. How are the new Quest 4 GTX boots holding up? When I look at recent reviews of all of their new lineup of the 4 series like Ultra 4 GTX, tons of bad reviews from the people that have actually put them to the test and not just casually wear them. Seems like the newest products from Salomon may have taken a huge hit in quality in the last year or two. Maybe it's covid related, changing suppliers or something. All I'm seeing recently is SOLD OUT and mediocore reviews for Salomon.
I Bought a pair in the UK and the moment it rained they filled with water, I had to hike 200 miles with wet feet everyday, boot tops were covered by goretex pants so water came through so called Goretex membrane, my feet were ruined. But I did get my money back on warranty from Go outdoors. (great company). Now its 100% one piece leather with a ton of beeswax and never had wet feet again.
After 8 months of steady hiking on easy to moderate trails they are coming apart. Both toe caps are separating and the right one has a cracked sole. Definitely not worth $250 USD
For anybody that does serious hiking. Look elsewhere. The lugs on the garbage contagrip soles fell apart from one day of hiking looking for shed antlers. Sad cause everything else about the boot is super nice. Saloman needs to ditch the contagrip and put vibrams on these.
Just bought these to replace my 10+ year old Solomons.
Are you still wearing these?
If anybody is interested in these boots id highly advise against.
The older quest are way better however since the quest 4, the quality is absolutely shocking, profit over quality unfortunately, a few months in these and ive returned them, leaking like made and absolutely no grip, comfy as hell however only plus side to them but the plastic crap on the side digs into your foot
I would not touch Salomon boots with a barge pole. I had two pairs and I might have well gone out wearing just socks they were so leaky.Terrible.
I feel the same way, yet I have had three pairs so far and I'm still tempted by these. They're just so comfortable. I used to have Meindl Bhutans and they were exhausting to wear and in the end they leaked too.
I think that with boots there's a tendency to think they will last for years because people say they do, but this doesn't account for the real metric which is mileage.
Salomons are not a tough boot but they are really comfortable straight out the box: thus they are a low mileage luxury boot and will need replacing sooner than comparable priced boots.
Agreed. I used Salomon Quests for many years for Dartmoor hiking. Amazingly comfortable, but always leaked eventually. Recently got some Meindl Bhutans which are definitely more durable and waterproof, but no where near as comfortable. It's a trade off really. Comfort but wet feet, or dry but achy/blistered feet.
Those boots are way way too big for you man, all that toe box creasing is because they are not fitted properly
"I got plenty of miles out of the previous Quests." Well how many miles is that. The quote is a throw away statement and means nothing.
I think Salomon quality has dropped. Mine leaked water almost immediately and started to fall apart in 2 months
Gteat boot, if only they looked better..
"Popular" and "good" are not the same thing. Venereal disease is popular.
It's Solomon not salomen
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are you wearing bigger than your size? Y
Just in these images. I've worn my usual size as well and would recommend buying your usual. Will
I love Salomon but these have quite bad quality reviews.....
They are some of the worst boots I’ve ever owned. Terrible grip on wet slippy rocks no feeling through the sole and take ages to dry out. My Matterhorns were way way better