"Every Indian Should Say The Himalayan Boundary With Tibet Is The Tibet Not China Border"
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- New Delhi: On 'The Gist', Tenzin Tsundue, Tibetan Activist & Writer in conversation with StratNews Global Associate Editor Amitabh P. Revi. On India's Tibet policy, Tenzin reiterates what he says is the Dalai Lama describing it as "overcautious", while acknowledging since 2008, India "has stopped giving China a free certificate" in its statements on 'One-China'. Though the activist points out, "India is generally much more assertive. It's much more confident of its own policies. And now it is a global player", he makes an appeal, saying that it is "important that every Indian should say the Himalayan border with Tibet is the Tibet border."
Editor's Note: This interview was recorded before China officially announced President Xi Jinping would not be attending the ASEAN & East Asia Summits in Indonesia and the G20 Summit in Delhi. The Chinese Ministry of Foreign Affairs said Premier Li Qiang would be representing China.
Watch this interview for more on what Tenzin has to say on the Chinese Communist Party's brutal repression and coercion in Tibet, Chinese attempts at mainstreaming the pinyin for Tibet-Xizang, India-China relations, the two times Prime Minister Narendra Modi and President Xi Jinping have had conversations on the sidelines of the last G-20 and BRICS Summits, "China as India's enemy number one", Tibetan protests during the G-20 Delhi Summit, Chinese aggression in Ladakh and Arunachal Pradesh, Tibetans' position on both those Indian territories, the significant symbolism behind using the terms-Tibet border and Chinese occupied Tibet, Tibetans being inducted into Chinese PLA 'militias'', Tibetans in India's Special Frontier Force, how China cannot and should not be allowed to interfere with the Dalai Lama's succession and what many Tibetans feel about a "negotiated solution" with China.
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Thanks Amitabh for bringing Tenzin Tsundue to your show. He has a very inspiring back story and his love & passion for Tibetan freedom is awe-inspiring. He is a true Tibetan hero - even though he says he is an ordinary man, he is anything but! Independent thinking rebels like Tenzin make the inhumane CCP quake in their bloody boots! Tibet will be free because karma will catch up with ungodly China sooner rather than later. India must do its part to free Tibet.
Bhag mc😂😂
India is not a country
Thank you so much Tenzin Tsundu la for your excellent explanation, you are a very simple living & high thinking down to mother earth guy which we Tibetans brothers & Sisters must know 😊
We have borders with Tibet ,not with china .
High time India recognises Tibet as a free country for its own security.
The fervour of the Tibetan people is astounding considering the hell they have endured.
Thanks every indian support us.
Yes, Its true...Myself from long telling people and in any platform expreesing this ,,that We the India is having boundries with Tibet only not with China...
You think Tibet is not part of China?
Thank you Tenzin Tsundu La🙏
Not only Tibet issue. It's global humanity issue.
Tibet is Freedom county One World One Tibet
i love this channel with one of the reason that you say,india do not share any boundary with china.tibet is our neighbour
Jay tibat ❤
Tenzin Bhai got Khampa warrior spirit.. hope he able to live in free tibet..
Tibet belongs to Tibetans only not Chinese, this is the fact..
America belongs to Americans?
Dear amitabh excellent discussion . I enjoyed it so much ,when facts are exposed
🙏🏾 @gubbibalaji5252
I want indian government to recognised tibet and taiwan
Yes we must recognise Tibet and Taiwan as full fludge country let world know that lndia cares a hoot to chinese paper dragon wake up modi real danger is from china not pak as proposied by great leader s sarder patail but stupid nehru never gave thought as nehru had ears for britishers than to sardar patil now damage has been done
Enjoyed thoroughly. Very informative and inspiring
A free, independent, and thriving Tibet is India's dharmic responsibility. That day is inevitable and India will play her role in booting China out of a Tibet. It is only a matter of time . Jai Maha Kaal. Jai Kailash nath.
100% agree that India and Indians should always refer to the border as the India-Tibet border. Our media has the most responsibility in doing this but they seem to be the most afraid.
A great video💯
I agree with him about Mcmohan line and the Indian Tibet border
You don't agree Tibet is part of China?
Very well spoken for Tibet.
The courage, patiance and hope of the Tibetan people is an example to the world that how a nation puts up peaceful resistance against the might of invading and occupying force called China. Their belief in the Goodwill generated by their most revered supreme leader HH Dalai Lama for a peaceful resolution of their legitimate claim over the Tibetan land is exemplary.
The trajectory that the China is choosing is a cause of worry for the peace in the whole world.
Like Iraq and Afghanistan, the superpower interests and support are cited as the reason for the rise of China too. Going by the same trend it will be upon the same power to deal with the threat of China. The ominous signs for China will only grow stronger with time. Perhaps XP end will be decided internally moe than from outside.
Tibet will get their independence and complete sovereignty over their legitimate land.
May the words of the supreme spiritual leader come true for Tibet very soon.
Satyameva Jayate! 🪷
Jai Hind!! 🫡
So you agree Tibet is part of China then?
Galwan valley incident is the creation by the Indian side, It is the Indian side which violated LOAP, went 12 kms inside, refused to comeback, this clash occurred.
So emotional !
Can't have both policies. Giving refuge to Dalai Lama and the Tibetans and then also this unending quest to keep China happy with its claim over Tibet. Something's gotta give.
Ya Khauff Se Dar Guzren, Ya Jaan Se Guzar Jaayen
Marna Hai Ki Jeena Hai Ek Baat Theher Jaaye
Who lives longer ?? His Holiness The Dalai Lama or the CCP?? Was probably the best ending comment !!
The 14th is getting old, and he will die, also no one can inherit the Dalai Lama title without golden urn process, and without approval from China, there's no such precedent after convention was established for the Dalai Lama reincarnation system. Lhamo Dhondup himself was approved by China in 1940 to become the 14th.
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Tibet was always an independent country. China has forcibly occupied it. Now it’s time to free Tibet and India should provide moral and diplomatic support towards it
Did China approve Lhamo Dhondup to be exempted from lot-drawing process using Golden Urn to become the 14th Dalai Lama in 1940?
Tibet should be called China occupied Tibet.
Do you know history of Tibet? Do you know in which year China approved Lhamo Dhondup from lot-drawing process using Golden Urn to inherit the Dalai Lama title?
On the first day of establishment of new China on 10/1/1949, the 10th Panchen Lama wrote this telegraph to congratulate the new Central Kingdom on 10/1/1949:
“北京中央人民政府毛主席、中国人民解放军朱德司令钧鉴：钧座以大智大勇之略，成救国救民之业，义师所至，全国欢腾，班禅世受国恩，备荷优崇。二十余年来，为了西藏领土主权之完整，呼吁奔走，未尝稍懈。第以未获结果，良用疚心。刻下羁留青海，待命返藏。兹幸在钧座领导之下，西北已获解放，中央人民政府成立，凡有血气，同声鼓舞。今后人民之康乐可期，国家之复兴有望。西藏解放，指日可待。班禅谨代表全藏人民，向钧座致崇高无上之敬意，并矢拥护爱戴之忱。”-十世班禅致中华人民共和国中央人民政府电报
Machine Translation:
"To President Mao of the Central People's Government of Beijing and Commander Zhu De of the Chinese People's Liberation Army: The scorpion is based on the wisdom of the great wisdom and the courage to save the country and the people. The whole country is full of joy, and the Panchen Lama is blessed by the country. For more than 20 years, I have been dealing with integrity of Tibet territorial sovereignty, without rest. Since result has not been obtained, I felt guilty. I will stay in Qinghai and wait for possible return. Fortunately, under your leadership, the northwest has been liberated, and the Central People’s Government has been established, we're all excited. In the future, the people’s well-being can be expected, and the country’s revival is expected. The liberation of Tibet is just around the corner. On behalf of the entire Tibetan people, please accept my supreme respect and support. " ---- The 10th Panchen Lama to the Central People's Government of the People's Republic of China
This Tibetan simply refused to see how the majority of Tibetans were treated prior to this. A waste of time.
Like how China threat their 1.4 billion Chinese, not to mention the genocides in Tibet, East Turkestan, Southern Mongolia and Manchuria committed by China? Your logic makes zero sense.
That's exactly what I have been saying. But we keep referring to the "China border"
What is this stupid One China Policy when they even don't respect our boundary. I 100% agree, Tibet is not China, their language, culture all different.
Tibet is part of China, Tibetan culture is part of Chinese culture, agree?
India and Tibetan is very very relation taritional
Ladakh us China tibet is china kasmir is PAKISTAN.
❤love China and Pakistan.
11:00 the Tibetan himself just admitted that Arunachal Pradesh is part of Southern Tibet; and therefore by extension now part of China. If these jokers were actually serious about Tibetan independence, they would also want Arunachal Pradesh back from India. But since ‘Tibetan activists’ are all agents for India, they only focus on China.
Was.
@@tenzintsundue8923 McMahon Line was agreed being conditional upon Republic of China accepting the Simla Convention. So from Republic of China's point of view, McMahon line was never agreed, from Tibetan government's point of view, the British didn't get acceptance from China for the convention, McMahon Line was also invalid.
Indian intellectuals of top international thinkers do know well about Tibet . But, none are as willing to speak up by choosing to stay timid and meek. That’s how British colonization broke down the spirits of the wise and wisdom filled powerful minds of great thinkers of the land of “Asoka The Great (!) “ that ; even today ; with all your economy wealth , glory and glamour hasn’t been dignified-arrogant enough to tell the world the truth. With all my love for India ; India’s well versed representatives , I sometimes find them beating around bushes when the topic on Tibet comes to the fore . As the proven records and results , brightest minds of India aren’t in India as a result . They are all over the world some are running for the top most powers of their foster land but, India. I call them intellectual refugees succeeding elsewhere ; but, India. Sorry to be so brutally honest in very naked words . This is the time for them to come back to India and lead the world. Show Beijing ; her way back to her home with Justice, in all honesty . We Tibetans did not steal our nation from anyone. Therefore; we aren’t shy to reclaim it again ; back to its innocence and moral grandeur where the physical dirt is visible from without and the spiritual cleanliness and grandeur within fills the air . Great India should be not in words from the podium where it’s only heard with no results to show on hand when it comes to Tibet .
Are Tibetans clear about their own goals? HH Dalai Lama says things which are prochina like he doesn't desire independence but autonomy. How do they expect Bharat to have a clear policy? Bharat's Tibet policy is governed by our own interests. We have been generous to Tibetan people but they do not recognise that.
Watch words carefully. His Holiness the Dalai Lama says thst he is 'not seeking independence', quite different from your interpreration 'not desire independence'. Given a chance who wouldn't want azadi?
We are dealing with China. Be serious. India and Tibet need to fight unitedly for Tibet's independence and India's security. Only an internationally coordinated and concerted effort can do this. India has a chance to lead it, US is already taking the first steps.
@@tenzintsundue8923please read and follow his words: Tibet is part of China, also Tibetan culture is part of Chinese culture. Read the position of India:
"The Indian side recognizes that the Tibet Autonomous Region is part of the territory of the People's Republic of China and reiterates that it does not allow Tibetans to engage in anti-China political activities in India."
nice...
Tashi Delek. Articulate and accurate accouts Tenzin Tsundue-la.
3:15 Money and pig story? my god. You refer to novel Journey to the West (西游记), this 西 (west) in 西游记 doesn't mean 西藏. The book Journey to the West (西游记) was completed in the 16th century, but term 西藏 was created in the 17th century.
China will be very happy if the Indians support Taiwan independence, Khalistan, Tamil, kashmir, Assam, Sikkim.... Will receive Chinese weapons, I will prepare 2 kgs popcorn to watch the TV 📺🎉🎉 every day, many spectacles.
Capt Jack Sparrow
I quite agree. The border is INDO-TIBET border. Sorry commentary on Tibet. Hope this is reversed some day.
In that case, China could likewise rename its border the "China - South Tibet" border...
Do "Indian soldiers" matter in the world? 😂
Yes they are the most respected among their people according to an ipsos survey. China isn't even in that list 😊
@@johndoe-vc1we among their people? 25% are illiterate, 60% are in poverty with govt given them (800m) food ration each month. How can they know anything? Lol
Dalai Lama actually is unholi Lama. He is not holiness.
Koi aaya nahi Koi gaya Nahi...😂😂
2:17 My god, you cannot mislead people with your false information. English term Tibet dates back to the 18th century, it's based on loanword from Semitic word Tibat, itself deriving from Turkic Tobad or Tūbātt which was first attested in 13th century. The Hindi word "तिब्बत" (Tibbat) was first attested in the 17th century, in the writings of the Mughal emperor Akbar. The term was first attestted as 吐蕃 (Tubo) in the 7th century in historical record 《唐书·吐蕃传》, in other words, term Tibet is a loanword from China. 吐蕃 can also be pronunced as Tufan, but there's only limited number of references. The term "西藏" (Xizhang) for Tibet was first attested in 1663 in historical record 《清实录》, 藏 (Tibet) was attested in the 13th century, 西 was used because of similar Manchurian pronunciation "wargi"(west) and Han Chinese pronunciation "wei"( 衛 in 衛藏). 衛藏 (Tibet) was first used in the 11th century.
ཡིན་་པའི་བཟོ་འདྲ་པོ་་ མིན་པའི་བཟོ་འདྲ་པོ་ ཕྱི་མ་ནང་
I am sure what I am going to express has been spoken about before. We must also understand the Chinese point of view.
India said that Tibet was a part of China, and then questioned the border between India and Tibet as seen by China. Shouldn't India have settled the border between Tibet and India before such a declaration? Does the same disagreement exist today, as it did under the premierships of Nehru and Zhou Enlai? India has declared that Tibet is a part of China. Now will India go back on this declaration? If China redraws the border of Tibet with India, what effect will this have on Tibetans, with the Dalai Lama living in exile in India?
Did Nehru know where the McMahon line was, when he took over as PM? When did the Chinese Communist Party start negotiations with the Tibetan authorities after the independence of China? It seems that Tibet then, also saw itself as a part of China.
Because Tibetans live in Arunachal Pradesh, does that make Arunachal Pradesh a part of Tibet? Did Zhou Enlai speak about this matter with Nehru? Where does Tibet extend till, according to the Chinese? Did the Chinese Communist Party take over the reins of a national govt without borders?
Qin Hai and Sichuan are Tibetan territories, forcefully occupation by CCP since 1959. 1954 panchsheel agreement with India required co-existence and ensure Tibet as autonomous territory. Presence of PLA in Tibet is downright not acceptable. There was no such thing as Sino-India border. This is manufactured by CCP. Albeit there is entity called Indo-Tibetan Border Force till date. Given Chinese agression, it is duty of Indian armed forces to flush PLA out of autonomous Tibet and secure peace east of Chongqing, the western theater of PLA. Uighur, Inner Mongolia, Hong Kong, Macau, Taiwan, Yunnan, Manchuria are also not 1-china. Force be with exiled governance of Dalai Lama. Respect for Tenzin Tsundue. America, Europe and first world countries are with you.
Second, an attack on Taiwan is an attack on India; and there should be armed response. China has requrested India to be neutral in its war with USA!! This means one thing very clearly. CCP wants to salami slice us the Indians, as they have done with Yunnan, Manchuria, Hong Kong, Uighur, Tibet, Inner Mongolia etc. There should be no confusion on analysis for democrazians of Indian plutocracy, given the sold out Gandhi dynasty.
Conclusion - If CCP invades Taiwan, India should get involved and flush PLA out of Autonomous Tibet. Only democratic India can deliver this in best self defense interest.
Poet turned ExPM Vajpayee had recognised tibet as integral part of china some 30 years ago.
Another great BJP leader😂
Guess his height
3:15 Money and pig story? you cannot mislead people with your false information. You refer to novel Journey to the West (西游记), this 西 (west) in 西游记 doesn't mean 西藏. The book Journey to the West (西游记) was completed in the 16th century, but term 西藏 was created in the 17th century.
Buddy, who is really misleading? We are not blind 🙄
Copy pasted stuffs
@@Sangchoe77 copy pasted? did you google?
3:15 Money and pig story? again, you cannot mislead people with your nonsense. You refer to novel Journey to the West (西游记), this 西 (west) in 西游记 doesn't mean 西藏. The book Journey to the West (西游记) was completed in the 16th century, but term 西藏 was created in the 17th century. Good imagination, but you're totally wrong.
Tibetan people are well fed, the standard of life has increased tremendously, those who are opposing Chinese occupation actually want to oppresse Tibetans themselves, I have gone to Tibet and it's 3 times developed than modern day Delhi ncr or Mumbai, if you have food in the plate and businesses to run I don't think you will be unhappy, teenager who are watching this India's media is flipped. Today people in nagaland Manipur arunachal are fighting to survive 30 to 40% percent of people are surviving multi-dimensional poverty, and corruption, in the case of China it's better to have 1 corrupt person than a million .
So you would be OK if your children are forcibly taken away to boarding school for many years?
In Tibet, the high way, high speed train, every house has electricity, hospitals, schools are everywhere,
The tibetans in ladakh are still in a miserable state, half village have no electricity, many homeless people, many tibetans in ladakh went to install in Tibet, the Dalai lama also demande to install in Tibet, he said, it's very difficult to support the Indians poverty.
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High time we derecognise Tibet as part of China. Nehru messed up big time but after 70 years India needs to claw back the initiative😅
This is an illusion running against reality: on daily basis India border force has to deal with Chinese army, not Tibetan army. What is the use for all the crying?
It's not crying but remembering that in near future we have to deal with sovereign Tibetan government for borders like earlier millennias.
fake superiority are not useful, especially when it is made in china - hope you understood. Galwan 45 PLA deadbodies@@FC-vp9ej
Tibet is an inseparable part of China's territory. Since the Yuan Dynasty, the central government has always exercised effective jurisdiction over Tibet. The Tibetan people are an important member of the Chinese national family. Tibet was called "Tubo" during the Tang and Song dynasties, "Wusi Tibet" during the Yuan and Ming dynasties, and "Tanggute" and "Tubert" during the Qing dynasty. It has been known as "Tibet" since the Kangxi period of the Qing Dynasty. On May 23, 1951, Tibet was peacefully liberated. After the Tibetan rebellion was quelled in 1959, the central government began to exercise comprehensive and direct jurisdiction over Tibet. On September 9, 1965, the Tibet Autonomous Region was officially declared established. On December 23, 2019, Tibet had basically eliminated absolute poverty and achieved overall poverty alleviation throughout the region.
Tibet must be a FREE country in a decade from now
So you don't agree Tibet is part of China?