The Lost World of Middlesex | a walk along the River Pinn (4K)
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- A walk along the River Pinn following the Celandine Route
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The River Pinn rises on Harrow Weald Common and flows through Pinner, Ruislip, and Uxbridge to make its confluence with Frays River and run into the River Colne. It is one of the three main rivers of the old county of Middlesex.
The Celandine Route starts at Bridge Street near the junction with Pinner High Street where the Pinn was dammed during WW2 to provide water to put out fires. We deviate from the course of the river to walk through Pinner Memorial Gardens and pick up the Pinn as it flows through Cuckoo Hill Allotments.
The river takes us to the beautiful walled garden at Eastcote House which dates from the 17th Century and then to the ancient Ruislip Manor House with its majestic great barn which was built around the year 1300. There is also the remains of a Motte and Bailey Castle on the site.
The next site of interest we pass along the river is Pynchester Moat created sometime in the 13th or 14th Century and now slumbering in suburbia.
We finish the walk on the edge of Uxbridge at sunset.
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Watching this on LongIsland NY and my husband and I really enjoyed walking along with you John,thank you. As an Eastcote girl born and bred it was nice to get a new perspective on my old stomping ground and to see how well Hillingdon Borough have preserved the ancient buildings and thoroughfares. 👏👏👏
babbling stream, brook, river, awesome, running through such a beautiful area. Such peace and tranquillity right up my street. Thank you John
I live in Harrow so I'll have to get up to Pinner soon and perhaps walk the route of the Pinn down to Uxbridge, cheers John.
Another Sunday and another great walk.
Hi I really enjoyed this walk. Until recently I lived in the Pinner and Eastcote areas for almost 40years.I used to live close to the walled gardens and used to walk and cycle regularly along this route. I don’t miss London except for the walks along the London canal and river networks. This part of north west London was a great place to grow up in.Thanks 🙏
Most of those places are of great nostalgic importance to me.
But revisiting is now out of the question. The population is totally changed.
I could cry.
Yes.
The other day I got out of the train with a friend at North Harrow for a Metro-land journey. Just as we started north I looked to my left down a nondescript road and said 'There's a river at the end there' - because of the colour and light and lay of the land I've learnt from you. So we turned down the road and sure enough there was a small patch of stream culverting under the road, which turned out to be the Yeading Brook. We were both amazed I had known it was there. Thank you!
Fantastic Laura - you’ve become a river hunter
I really enjoyed this week's walk. By the way when you have to change the clock time its spring forward, fall back. I hope this helps.
Many thanks for that, very handy for remembering
I immediately recognised Pinner in the opening shot. Lived in Rayners Lane for 12 years and have very fond memories of Pinner. Thank you John, I throughly enjoyed that.
I absolutely loved this! What history and wonder you have at your feet! I'm in Florida and I'm planning my very first trip overseas; hope to see (experience) a good bit of your lovely country and Scotland, the best I can do in the span of about 3 weeks. I have included some of the sites you have taught me about in your videos. Thank you so much, I have learned so much.
Many happy memories playing in and along the River Pinn as a child in the 60s!
I've wanted to see Pinner, Middlesex since I was a teen decades ago because Elton John grew up there. Thank you for a wonderful walk through a quite beautiful area of London.
Been through Mad Bess Wood. I have happy memories of walking there with my grandparents.
I would love to see middlesex restored as a county, officially, i don't really think countys or shires should be altered or moved about.
It won't happen it's all London boroughs, not just outer London though, original Middlesex included Camden, Islington, Hackney, Harrow, Tower Hamlets and even Westminster.
I do too. Sadly, it won't happen because of London's gluttony.
@@whynotagain3639 Paddington was once part of Middx too right? Oh, and isn't Havering a former settlement of Essex?
@@mach6893 yes, that's a really strange auto correct typo it should say Harrow, not sure how it changed to Havering. (I grew up in Harrow too) Lol
Anyway yes Paddington was, the whole of North London up to the Essex border was Middlesex. That includes everything north of the river from Isleworth to the Isle of Dogs (Canary Wharf).
However pre great fire of London, the county of Middlesex didn't exist and was actually part of the county of Essex, which is why both counties share an almost identical flag.
Middlesex was created as the royal farm land county after the great fire of London. (Hence the crown over the Essex three swords on the county flag).
So to respond to the original posters wish or statement that counties or shires shouldn't be moved about it. Then really it should be reinstated as Essex, it had already been moved about hundreds of years before being swallowed by London, because Middlesex was once a part of Essex.
@@whynotagain3639 I see. Thanks for the knowledge! Cheers!
"Looking forward to a great autumn and winter of walking" is just about the best thing you can hear at this time of year.
I know a lot of work goes into you videos John and we thank you for it. Cheers buddy
many thanks Peter
I grew up in Ickenham and spent a lot of time in and around the Pinn. We used the moat as a cycle track in the summer and floated logs in the winter. By the park there were some pipes crossing the Pinn and the dare was to walk across. I did it one day when the Pinn was in flood and fell in. Deciding to swim home I made about 100 yards before deciding to walk. Happy days.
As a south east London person, I find these west London walks fascinating. It’s another world! It’s hilarious that people from other places in the UK regard ‘Londoners’ as one group. People coming from one part of London will find other parts of London unfamiliar. Ask me about local underground services! Ha!!!
A bit like Londoners call every one ''northerners' and think every town is the same.
Brilliant! I grew up in Ruislip from 1961….I remember the blacksmith’s forge still in use at the Manor Farm, spent many hours in the beautiful library and fished for catfish and sticklebacks in the Pinn by Bury Street. We used to walk over Ickenham Green to the twin bridges and it was lovely to see so much as I remember. Thank you so much for making this lovely film
Spent a lot of my childhood down the river pinn in Cowley Uxbridge we used to make fishing nets fishing for sticklebacks swing across the river and even had our firework displays in the field great days 😃
Great walk John. Brought back a lot of memories for me. As a young boy in the 70s, I grew up playing in Eastcote Park and Pinner Park, and the Pinn Fields. Pinner Park is much the same, but Eastcote House used to be quite run down and neglected although it’s much improved now. I remember playing in the River Pinn. King fishers were quite a common sight (but no Egrets) and you could put your fishing net anywhere in the river and it would come out brimming with stickleback. And when I was old enough, I would drink in the Case is Altered pub opposite Eastcote Cricket Club. Happy days.
I live in the US now, so this a note of appreciation from one of your US fans. Keep doing what you’re doing. You’re one of my main connections to home!
Thanks for sharing those memories Jonathan- great place to grow up
Yes Happy days for me too growing up in Pinner. Used to walk across Cheney Fields to the Case is Altered. I live in Cornwall now but my parents always remained in Pinner
33 mins of bliss ..... cheers maestro.
My pleasure Paul
When that new music started playing at the beginning of this vid and in other parts, I found myself saying “At the third stroke, the time will be… John Rogers o’clock, precisely” 🤓 Thanks for taking us with you on your stroll along the Pyn. I wonder what the deity’s name is…. Until next time. Where ever that may be 👊🏼✨
@TheRenaissanceman65 I know it’s Pinn now, but I did wonder if Pinner was ever spelled with a “Y”, like Pynchester.
The Pinn was very pretty, thank you John for the walk.
Another wonderful film, I really look forward to seeing them on Sunday evening, thank you John
Thanks for watching John
a very tranquil and relaxing video, I love the colours the dark and mid greenery of the foliage and he grayness of the sky, makes me want get the canvas and oils out....and to top it off a brick walled garden....I will treasure this bit of film...Pie and Mash and a decent looking battle cruiser nearby, what more would you want in life....Cheers John.
So much history and information.
Enjoy these walks, always.
Thanks.
My ancestors lived in and around the river and in Pinner Village. Thank you for this walk, as I’ve never made it back across the pond!
4:09 That canine was WILFUL! :D
pausing 14:39 is such a beautiful image John. And WHAT a library! Lucky folk living there!
Thanks for a great exploration of an area that I knew from 50 years ago. Cheers from Tasmania.
I’m an American living in Napa California, and I enjoyed the walk immensely. Thank you
Thanks John! As a young lrish person l lived in Hayes in 1990. Really l was just trying to make ends meet and l didn't see much of the surrounding countryside. However it was a chunk out of my life and it broadened my horizons . I met my friend Norah who went to work in England at the age of fourteen and we still keep up contact! The church in Hayes has the biggest picture of the Madonna in the world by Anigoni.
I agree about a good Autumn, we've had some rolling misty days in South Kilkenny, "Season of mists and mellow fruitfulness." Toodle Pip!
My home! A couple of times a year I walk From Bridge Street to Ickenham station along the Pinn, it’s a lovely walk. Opposite Eastcote House the Case is Altered pub is worth stopping for a pint. In the summer there is often a cricket match at Haydon Hall next door which is an ideal spot to stop and have a picnic lunch or alternatively alongside the running track there is a cafe.
I remember 'the Sinner from Pinner'.
Lovely!
A revelation! Hard to realise that the River Pinn has so many historic gems along its route. Thank you!
I lived in Northwood from 1977 - 1982. I was 8 years old when I moved there and left just after turning 13. I lived at 12 Eastglade, just up the road from Eastbury Road I believe. I went to a private school nearby called St.John’s School. My school blazer was purple! It was located on Potter Street Hill. My best friend’s name was Nigel Adlington. I’ve often wondered how he’s doing. Thanks for sharing this, brought some wonderful memories back. Best wishes from the other side of the Atlantic. When I lived there, across the road from the Northwood tube station was a car dealership, Citroen, I believe. Had some other school friends that lived in Pinner. There used to be a fair there every summer, carnival rides and all that.
So far this is my favorite. Of course you did start 2 blocks from my hubby's Aunt's house. Hello from Chicago
Great seeing a video starting from my hometown and places I'm so familiar with. The top end of Ruislip is lovely place to visit and yes all good Middlesaxons put Middlesex on their address 😀
Great video. When you were talking about “modernist” Eastcote you were 100 metres away from 3 modernist houses in Ruislip on Park Avenue. I grew up in that road and it was funny that they were there in the 1930s before all the suburban houses were built in the road after the war but looked much more recent.
Thanks. I really need to go back for a walk round Eastcote Town Centre - I'll take a look at those houses you mention
I and a few friends used to dam the Pinn when we were kids at Roger Bannister sports centre in Harrow weald, it is no more than a small stream there. I was brought up in Harrow Weald, left there in 89.
Thanks for a great video John. I grew up in Ickenham with our garden leading out onto the River Pinn. My friends and l spent hours playing in the river in all seasons. We'd often getting soaked making rope swings across the river and playing 'Sink the Bismark' ( dock leaves would be floated downstream for the other kids to try and sink with stones.)
"Stay optimistic and positive" - certainly will John - another great video and I had no idea Pinner held such treasures.
great stuff Martin
Nice walk John. I loved the old farm and barns. Not changed too much from Tudor Times. Really interesting and what a great place to house the library!
Yes, my Sunday evening is now complete.
Hope you enjoy it John
I lived in this area as a young teen (1969-73). We lived in a housing estate close to the Montesole Playing Fields (and the adjacent abandoned chalk mine). Attended London Central High School in High Wycombe. Eventually moved to the US (Seattle area) in early 73. Now retired in the sun of Mexico. Great memories of Pinner. Lovely walk.
The way to remember is to spring forward and fall back. Love the videos, the country walks are the best. Thank you.
Thanks John 😊 you bring happiness with your videos .
As a walker it is great to enjoy these walks second hand courtesy of John , but in and of themselves they are wonderfully relaxing and healing . Thanks mate 👍.
I love watching your videos, very relaxing and informative - its like having your own personal tour guide on the lesser populated points of interest that you'd not normally come across!
Another great walk, many thanks for sharing John. Like you, I've an alignment with the A40. For me it's East Acton, Greenford, Northolt and now Marlow... BTW, Great to hear you get a namecheck during Notes & Queries on the Robert Elms show on Friday!
That’s a great alignment Emm - I learnt to swim in the Thames at Marlow. Thanks for letting me know about the Robert Elms mention - very chuffed
I live in North Carolina USA, but grew up in this area. Your video brought back so many memories as I spent most of my time wading in the Pinn, catching sticklebacks and frogs. I will be back in Sept 2022 and plan to take at least some of the Celandine Route, thank you for making this video, it was wonderful to see where I grew up, 67 years later!
I am from Greenford, Ealing, but we lived in Pinner for a year or two. That's where I started School 👍 Our house, 63 Eastcote Road, was adjacent to the River Pinn 👍
thank you John. this is my favoritecwalk so far, love the touchable medieval structures. bravo!!!!!!
Your walks always leaves us something to research The Hillingdon Hoard ! The archaeologist tells us the coins may have been buried for a rainy day , quite apt John , thank you for the walk
Thanks for posting this lovely walk John, really liked the relaxed narration. It is another one of our magical little rivers.
This video was so encapsulating couldn't stop watching. Thanks again John 👍
Cheers Michael
@@JohnRogersWalks welcome mate
Thanks for this, a really enjoyable video. I grew up in Eastcote, so have fond memories of much of the areas featured. 20:26 is the bridge I used to cross the Pinn hundreds of times taking my grandmother's dog for walks in the early naughties. A real walk down memory lane!
I live in Montana USA but have ancestors from Middlesex. It is such a pleasure to have this area laid out by you in such lovely detail so that I can get a mind-picture of the surroundings of my ancestors! Thank you.
I love learning about the history of these beautiful landscapes and buildings,
What a great walk John. Brings back some good memories for me. My sister was born in Pinner and went to Swakeleys school and I was born in Hillingdon, thanks for sharing that.
Expat Londoner here, celebrating my 71st birthday, and this is one of your best videos. (Well, this, and your rambling around south Bucks.) Thank you.
Happy Birthday Geoff
My home town from way back. I used to walk my dog passed the allotments and can confirm , Kingfishers. Thank you John for the memories .
Another pleasant walk with John on a Sunday evening.
Love it! Very relaxing for a Sunday evening after an afternoon of walking! Thanks for the vid!
Thanks for an enjoyable, informative, easy to watch tour John.
I’ve always been intrigued as to why so many old ancestry records refer to Middlesex and yet, it doesn’t seem to exist anymore. A search revealed Middlesex dates back to the 8th Century but Middlesex County Council was abolished in 1965. Now consumed by Greater London.
Blimey John. You walked right past my house on that one. The Pinn is a great walk. I often walk the dog along it up to the medieval barn and back. Lots of wildlife around the river. I’ve seen badgers, kingfishers, bats…makes a great walk on a summer evening and although being next to it can feel very rural, you’re never far from a supply of Gingsters. Great work as always mate. Ps, the tree at 14:44 is where I often sit. You cant tell by the video, but it’s huge, I’m betting it’s a good 500 years old.
Fantastic Jay, I love it over that way and felt a strong pull drawing me out to Ruislip
@@JohnRogersWalks I’m from Leytonstone originally and I moved out here about 7 years ago and I agree; there’s something about this part of the world that feels comforting . Although it’s still London here, it feels like a welcoming gateway to the countryside. I think I need to take a walk around Leytonstone soon. Had the urge for a while now.
Another informative and mesmerising film, thanks John.
My pleasure thanks James
Thank you so much for doing this wonderful walk. I know the area well from some years ago and very much enjoy the history. It brought back some lovely memories and took me back to the eighties.
Thank you John. Been living in Madrid these past 12 years and Cornwall before that. But 30 years in Pinner and I walked much of your River Pinn route over the years; serious case of homesickness now!!!!
Nice part of the world that John, been there once or twice in my travels working down the years, loving the back ground music.
Thanks for this lovely video and walk. I grew up in Ruislip, spent my twenties working in Bridge Street, Pinner and weekends in The Hand In Hand in Pinner. Bought back memories of larking around with friends!
Nice to see you exploring an area I knew pretty well. I grew up in Rayners Lane through the 60’s and 70’s. I was always out with my friends exploring on our bikes; Harrow, Pinner, Eastcote, Ruislip, Northolt, Uxbridge - this walk brought back so many memories, thank you
What a beautiful walk in my home borough. There is so much history and ancient farmland in Hillingdon it reminded me of the walk you recently did in Harmondsworth . Having just spent a long wkend in Cornwall I kind of felt sorry for your lunch after I had some amazing pasty’s. As always John it was a pleasure to walk with you . All the best 👍🏻
many thanks Ian - was guided by some of your City maps today on my walk
@@JohnRogersWalks the maps are very detailed and probably one of the best infrastructure projects that the company produced. I can Remember people trying to read them as we installed them lol
That was really a lovely walk, John, one of your best and nicest in my opinion. Thanks! :)
many thanks Traci - I really enjoyed it
Nice 'walking' with you John, great vid, thanks!
another cracking video to end off the evening! great work!
Many thanks EES
Thank you for another lovely trip with so much to see 5⭐️
Fantastic John, what a Bonny wee river and love the name
I am Canadian but my family all live in Shrewsbury and up but , though I have been in London several times I thoroughly enjoy your tours! Its a side of London I never knew existed! I love your chat ! Wonderful!
ah! i’ve been reading Scarp by Nick Papadimitriou and he mentions this town and area. nice to get a visual to go with the text. looking forward to this great video walk!
Great exploration along thr River Pinn ,which I had never heard of before John.Lovely preserved 13th century buildings on route which complmented your very enjoyable saunter through Metroland!!!
Thanks John for a great Sunday walk,much appreciated 😊
Cheers Iain
always love your energy at the end of walks.
Many thanks John. A cracking video, great photography and music as always. Bob.👍
Thanks Bob
Thank you so much for this. Really enjoyed it. Please keep up the great work.
thanks Clive
Great Walks with John Rogers. 🏞🌧
Lived in the Pinner/Eastcote area since 1971 and so many very familiar places that I probably take for granted so fascinating to see the area through another’s eyes. Such a lot of real history and never knew there had been a castle in Ruislip!
Just discovered your channel and lucky enough to find this one early on. As a Northolt lad I too have an affinity with the A40 with it reaching as far as the Welsh coast and the ferries to Ireland where I lived for a few years. I've also a great affinity with Eastcote, the family dentists was there and my first true love also lived there. Bike rides with my cousin from Northolt to Ruislip Lido and the woods, this all evoked so many memories. Thanks a mill as they would say in Ireland!
I thought I’d look at Google to (finally) see where Pinner is. Then I spotted the pie and mash shop (4.7 stars) and shouted to my wife “There’s a pie and mash shop in Pinner!” just at the same time as you featured it in your video. Genuinely spooked me. 😮
Another modern classic walk ! A real, snapshot like nugget we will all be glad of in hindsight.
My interest in London history and England was due to Minder, as i for some reason have Minder Episodes in my DNA and love their writers use of London locations in both the episode titles and general dialogue of the both the first series and later series in the 1990s when Dennis left the show. Guess who's coming to Pinner ? ...So thanks again John for your in depth videos of greater London and England (and your fantastic European video's as well). Something you couldn't do in the 1980s is the ability to find the old Minder filming locations on Google street Maps and see what changes have been made to those streets and buildings over 40 years.
Thx for another great video John!
Cheers Tom - glad you enjoyed it
Thank you for your adventures into West London. My family home is ijust down from Sudbury Hill smack inbetween Harrow-on the hill , Northholt and Greenford . The lost history of Middlesex is fascinating and the landscape is magical. I often imagine it stripped bare buildings . Standing at the top of Castle Rd Northolt on a clear day you can see London stretched out as far as the eye can see .
Great walk again john thanks,👌👍
A lovely video John, thanks. I am from Pinner and walk and cycle along all the stretches of your walk. Several of the paths you walked have only recently been improved by the council (Harrow & Hillingdon) so making it easier in muddy times. As other commentators, I can highly reccommend the modernist houses in Park Avenue if you like that sort of thing!!
Thanks Michael - they've dome a wonderful job on the footpaths. I really must return for a look at those houses
Another great and interesting walk John, I enjoyed it immensely. Thank you.
My pleasure Christine - glad you enjoyed it
Thank you John for another fascinating and interesting walk beautifully shot and very inspiring.It has enlightened me about a part of London I am most ignorant of. Thanks again and I look forward to your next delightful exploit wherever that maybe
many thanks Humble - just shot the next one, it's a good'un
Loved your videos the past year.
Also really loved the strange beepy strummy guitar music!