stranger things 4 but it's just mike wheeler being a gay mess
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- čas přidán 25. 11. 2022
- mike wheeler is not straight because I had issues cutting his gay moments down to just 8 mins
PART 2: • stranger things 4 but ...
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Okay but genuinely, this is such a well made video. Like literally so many details I missed and it’s not reaching or anything all of these are completely factual
tysm I appreciate it 🥰
I was shipping mileven but after watching this I may have to reconsider
Me too i thought it was just be some miments not super detail 😭
@@niamhs6042good byler real
@@niamhs6042 samee
The “WeRe FrIeNdS!!” Scene is so crazy to me because Will didnt even imply he meant anything romantically, but Mike’s reaction makes me think he thought Will meant something romantic
Exactly, he's the only one being weird about it not Will 😭
I never thought about this, Mike is the only one awkward about this
I feel like Mike most likely isn’t straight, but it’s so hard to see him and Will as a couple
@@idontknowwhattoputhere5434 you're right. First he probably doesn't know any gay couple, even less a gay couple with happy ending. The only kind of romantic love he knows is straight as he has parents, his sister had boyfriends, his friends have female crushes. He probably is feeling like a mistake, a freak, as Will ever felt too :(
@@jiulliasilva773 right. People are forgetting this is the 80’s. Not to mention just bc Will has a crush and Mike might not be straight it doesn’t mean they should end up together. I genuinely don’t see a romantic connection between them
This is like a whole school presentation and I love it 💀
Me too 💀
skull 💀
a mf persuasive essay😭
Strawberry 🍎
Eggo 🧇
in every wills bedroom scene they were both kicking their feet and blushing i cant take it
literally
What💀
POV: they actually just have adhd (they don’t it’s just a joke)
Aye yooooooooooooo
They did 💀 what
Bro the "I feel like my life started the day we found you in the woods" gets me everytime 💀 like bro that's literally the day will went missing 😭💀
He literally found her in the woods while searching for WILL. The next days when el was in his basement i am pretty sure he wanted her to leave cause he said" you go out and ring the front door bell and my mom will know what to do but you can't show that you know me ok? But it's fine we'll pretend that we are meeting for the first time" he only kept her because he heard Will's voice on the walkie when el adjusted it
I cringe every time I see that love confession, bro 😭
for real and will was right there 😭😭😭😭
@@priscimarin-hn5nm omfg so true 💀
O mundo dele começou quando conheceu a On porque no dia em que ele achou que tinha perdido o Will o mundo dele desabou
that hug is honestly like 90% of why i wholeheartedly believe byler will be canon, cause why tf can he hug everyone else like a normal person but not his best friend of 10 years??????
I'll be honest I never thought the show would put mike and will together before but that hug was the exact moment that I went "oh wow they're really doing this". then rink o mania happened and I was like 'ok we're definitely going there" lol
EXACTLY
honestly i hope byler is canon
i remember when the show just came out i started shipping them cause of the scene where they were holding hands but i thought it was just me… I wouldn’t guess it’ll grow into something bigger😭
CLEAR!!! LET'S THROW ELEVEN AND MIKE'S ENTIRE DEVELOPMENT IN THE TRASH!!!!!! EVEN ELEVEN WAS ONLY MANAGED TO SURVIVE VECNA BY MIKE AT THE END OF THE FOURTH SEASON!!!!!! GENIUS!!!!!!! 😍
no because the fact mike had to say "we're friends" twice with so much aggression, it just sounds like he's trying to convince himself lmao
That’s one way to interpret it, when I saw it, it came off as Mike being “aware” that Will likes him in more than friends kind of way and that was Mike’s way of letting Will down easy. Mikes never really been good with immediate confrontation.
@@TerraCrisis see that's 100% false because and the duffer brothers themselves said that mike has no clue will has feelings for him.
@@moveslikeninja1 it’s just my interpretation, 🤷🏽♂️ nothing wrong with people having their own opinions. I just find it hard to believe Mike has zero clue.
@@TerraCrisis totally down for diff interpretations. my question though is why wouldn’t Mike have instantly clocked Will’s speech in the van scene then if he’s aware of his feelings. you’d think then he’d KNOW that the painting was from will and that will was talking about himself. imo he’s def clueless and that scene basically confirmed it
I took it as they were intimate before and he had to let him know that it was nothing to convince him he wasn’t gay. Like they kissed or had a moment before
“what about us?”
uhm…okay gabriela and troy
I knew it sounded familiar lmaooo
It’s sooo funny. Especially considering that High School Musical was on the inspiration board for season 4. So they literally did take inspiration from it
The Duffer bros every time Mike and Will are alone: "THIS SCENE COULD USE SOME CAR NOISES RIGHT ABOUT NOW"
69 likes!
@@boysandgirlsarehot nice
Mike is so soft with Will *crying*
Doesn't mean he's gay lol
Like a human?
@@putalover4519 what
@@putalover4519 no its a et 😱
@@lamisholi1503 He's lol
When it's a couple they haven't admitted yet, they always make a point of pointing out to each other that they are friends :)
it’s SUCH a common romance trope that I’m surprised anyone believed mike at all lmao
@@gayerthings i know right!?
if this end up being cannon I'd be so happy because Mike wouldn't be just a bad friend and partner, he was struggling with his own feelings
I am an English learner and I’m far away from being good at it now. Could you tell me what “cannon”means here ？cannot find in the dictionary 😢
@user-ov6cv1gk8n “canon” basically means something that’s confirmed within the official story. like how Joyce and Hopper became “canon” in season 4 after fans were rooting for them to get together.
the entirety of the van scene drives me CRAZY like mike is so in love in that scene that i cant handle it. he doesn’t care about the painting at first because maybe he’s jealous el said “i think it may be for a girl he likes” and then when will finally brings it up to him and mike realizes it’s for him his face lights up and he looks at will like he holds the world in his palm 🤨 there is NO hetero explanation for this
YO i did not put this together this is great
what if blyer doesnt happen
@@rysgoneok then it doesn’t happen 🤣 although i don’t believe the duffer brothers would build all of this up for will liking mike every season and then after the entirety of the season three ending scene i cant not see them doing something with byler. and if they don’t end up together that’s fine, although like i said i wouldn’t see the point in building all of this up with byler and not doing anything with it.
@@imnotconvinced3863 my bet is they will show some of their moment's that look like they will be the endgame and just leave it upto us to think what would happen next. Most probably el would remain single and focus on her own development. Then people who love mileven will think they are still together and people who love byler think they are together. Idk what I'm saying 🙃 try to understand it.
@@Indigo518 oh no i totally get where you are coming from. leaving it up for interpretation could highly be a possibility!
HAHAHHAHAHAH IM DEAD 💀 I was laughing so hard through this whole thing. But fr the “I say it” compared to the “You didn’t have too” 😭✋ oml i love Byler so much.
IKR LIKE THE DIFFERENCE IS SO THICK
3:19 OMG I SO WANNA SEE MURRAY PROPERLY MEET MIKE AND WILL AND HAVE THIS EXACT SAME REACTION TO THEM BEING JUST FRIENDS ITD BE SO FUNNY 🤣🤣🤣
Omg yes please, he did it with Nancy and Johnathan, then hopper and Joyce now I really hope next season mike and will get to meet him(probably not happening) but it would still be very hilarious if it did somehow happen. (Cuz he kinda was the cupid for both of their elder siblings as well djkd)
4:45 I love that
“Do you believe this sorry? It’s fiction.”
Can I also just- 6:58 😂
Love this so much lmao, wish Byler content got more attention here on youtube but people aren't ready for it yet I guess? They got a storm comin' lol
guaranteed in 2 years there will be an explosion of content and I'm just trying to get ahead of the madness lmao
People are crazy obsessed wdym?
@@nicetomeetyou701 I don't see much attention about it here on youtube specifically; there's more on tumblr for sure, but like most of the byler videos on here only have a few thousand views, whereas for most stranger things related videos they're more in the range of 100k+ views if not millions. I think the general audience hasn't been totally clued in yet about this queer love story that's honestly pretty central to the show's story, because it's central to two of the main characters (Mike and Will). idk we'll see! Hopefully the duffers pull it off, because it does seem like this is pretty clearly where they're going with it.
@@aaIi_ I guess there are more gays in the world
@@gayerthings that's so smart actually
When people find out about byler they'll immediately go search for it on yt and click your video since it was made before everything was actually revealed on the show. They will want to know how they didn't pick up on it,but you did lol
The amount of times Mike has stared at Wills lips is too many to count there’s no heterosexual explanation for him getting flustered at will 😏
I have a feeling that they won't end up together, but I personally really like this ship, I think they could be really cute together, I just personally don't see it actually happening in the show for some reason. Also even though Mike isn't CANONLY apart of the lgbtq community (or at least not yet anyways), Will CLEARLY has a thing for Mike, so who knows lol. They might be able to show the development between them in season 5, and Mike, could eventually develop feelings (that is if he doesn't already like him). Great video btw
Thank you ❤️❤️ and yeah there are a lot of reasons why maybe they won’t, but tbh I rewatched the whole show after s4 and I was like damn… the foundation is totally there. Their friendship has always been different
I like their ship and Will pining for Mike, it's adorable, but from what I've seen in s4 the focus on Mike's feelings, his pov - it was barely there, but from Will's perspective he looks so clueless and I hardly believe something Will-related was going on in his head, but I also refuse to believe Mike and El are meant to be together: remember that case in el's room dedicated to Mike? i almost audibly gasped when I saw that, if you worship your bf like some idol this is an unhealthy relationship, and not only for you. So IMO, if writers wanted, they could make Mike anything in season 5, there's still hope, but I am getting ready for the "Will discovering his sexuality" arc, not the "Will and Mike love story"
I mean, it was the 80s so it would be highly shunned upon. We saw that robin was hiding her crush on Vickie to make sure that nobody knew. But they could have a secret romance in the show so, cross ur fingers lol
@@gayerthings "there are a lot of reasons" what are those reasons? You say you rewatched the show, maybe you should do it again lol. "The foundation is totally there"....oh honey...... "the foundation".........
rewatch the show. How much clearer and more obvious do the writers have to be for y'all to open your eyes lmao.
It looks like Will is projecting his love for Mike into Eleven. THAT could be why Mike is El's lover.
I totally agree I mean take for example his van speech
tbh i dont really see 'the love'. He liked eleven in season 1 when she looked like a boy lmfao
@@ulyannas6279 FRRRR
@@ulyannas6279 So short hair = boy? They had awesome chemistry, while even if Will liked Mike he clearly doesn't like him back. Yall are so delusional 💀
@@ProbablyPissedYouOff They called El a boy for like an episode and a half. It took them hearing her voice to make them realized she's a girl. If Mike doesn't like Will, why the very blatant and obvious lip staring? The script had Mike's POV in the van scene but they cut it out for reasons unknown. We're not delusional, just extremely observant.
The chemistry in question:
"Ew gross!"
*doesn't know how to say I love you until given the okay by his best friend*
*eyes open and stiff as a board when El confesses and kisses him*
There are more instances. They're sweet, as friends. They were better off as friends and when they started dating it went downhill.
He was so happy when Will showed him the painting and as soon as he heard it was supposedly a commission he just went: 😐 .
If will was being secretive about his crush this whole season And it turns out so was Mike I'm gonna say he's the Goat of being closet gay. 😂😂🐐
Enzo: "Of course not, she saves your life because of friendship."
Literally next scene:
Will: "That was you guys who saved me."
Omg I did not pick up on that 👌🏻🤣
It's for sure that Mike knows that El didn't ask Will to draw that painting because she mentioned it in her letters (in the beginning of the episode)
El had a history of lying in her letters, so I bet he figured she lied about the painting in the letters so she could surprise him and gift it to him.
Because Mike definitely remembered her writing that the painting was for a girl when he acted so weird about it at the airport. If he didn't, he wouldn't have acted so cold about it (he would never say no to Will's art and that's canon, he has a literal binder full of it). He thought it wasn't for him, and got jealous.
I knew about byler before but I didn't actually believe it might end up being canon until season 4 but now I am fully converted, there is literally no heterosexual explanation for this
Sameeee
THANK YOU this video is everything! My husband literally watched all of season 4 and then I made a comment about Will clearly having feelings for Mike and the man had the AUDACITY to say "What? I don't know about that." So I couldn't even start talking about Mike subtly liking Will lmao
Lol, I tried opening up that conversation with my mother by mentioning the van scene, and she asked me "What van scene?" ffs
EVEN AFTER THE VAN SCENE!!??
@@S_M_M_1111 YES isn't it INSANE!?
@GRHB-qg2ko even after the pizzeria scene where Jonathan tells Will (subtly) he knows and has his back as he looks at Mike?!
I do think El and Mike love each other. But they've grown up, and the romantic love just isn't there anymore. On both sides. I dont think El loves Mike romantically, either. With her losing her dad and the isolation and the loneliness, she clings to Mike. I think in the 5th season, Mike is going to have to pull Will from the dark side. The speech he gives Will, will be much more emotionally satisfying. When he talks to El, when she's in the upside down, was like a child explaining love. When he saves Will from the dark side it will be like a man saving someone he is in love with.
you are so real for this. tbh I really can’t take mike’s love confession seriously and I agree that if (when) he confesses to will, it’ll be a lot more emotionally satisfying. the whole “I love you on your good days, I love you on your bad days” was giving discount wedding vows/stuff mike probably overheard on tv
You say when he confesses to will like you know he will confess
Adrien: she’s just a friend!
Mike: *UR JUST A FRIEND* 👹
Noah Schnapp is such a good actor omfg the FEELING in his gestures
It’s not Joyce that needs to go work as a detective with hopper, it’s u 😂😂
LMAO call me the gay detective
@@gayerthings 😂😂 lol I love it!
the "friends" thing is like the biggest piece of evidence theyll end up together imo, it was used in the show multiple times and they're canon relationships now (joyce and hopper, nancy and jonathan)
Mike is 10000000% gay
He is even more gay coded than will, A CANON GAY CHARACTER
HMMMM-
How is he gay?
@@romannadruku4147 do you actually want an explanation? I can give one haha but it would take a while
@@emmablodgett5546 yes please do because he's clearly in love with eleven
@@ventichhead did u even see the video
@@ventichhead did u even watch the video
i love murray for creating the questioning love between characters, he's so sassy and straightforward
Lol vecna just vibing while the pre teens sort out their silly love lives
One thing I noticed was that at Rink-O-Mania when Will says “Well she was lying to you, Mike, straight to your face ever since you got here!” He kind of pushes him with his hand and Mike looks down at his hand after
Wow 😂😂 crazy a hand 🤚
when will goes "what about us" I get flashbacks to hsm2. WHAT ABOUT US. WHAT ABOUT EVERYTHING WE'VE BEEN THROUGH
2:58 this is exactly what I was thinking about when I heard the “we’re friends”, my mind immediately went to Heartstopper, lmao.
In season 1 they first thought el was a boy bc of the hair cut and mike saying he loved her the moment he saw her make him a lil fruity ngl
*The replies are scaring me.*
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Wait stop that's true he only liked cause he thought she way a boy-
@@lazykazy833 he never thought she was a boy 💀
@@luvvvvvr doesn't matter, other people did. She's constantly compared to a boy during season 1 and that's subtext and double meanings. Don't mix up tv shows with real life, these characters don't have feelings.
@@abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwyx i still think he could be bi.. i js dont think he liked el because she looked like a boy, because even when she grew her hair out he still liked her.
The way Mike looks at Will‘s lips at 5:07
Imagine the camera pans to vecna just eating popcorn just listening to his "love confession" him being like: wow he is such a liar, you need someone better sweetheart and him just shaking his head 7:42
like seriously WHAT WAS HE DOING during this love confession 😂
@gayerthings 🤣 ikr, but like mikes love confession makes me cringe so hard, though, even finn cringed LOL
Before this video I was like “there’s a 0% chance” but now I’m like “the subtext is 100% there but are the showrunners gonna act on this chemistry?? Probably not” 😂
LOL never say never? I have a good feeling they will ❤️
Most of the people I know, REALLY seem to dislike Wolfhard's performance in the 4th season. Be it people in my circle who watch the show, or other fans on different social medias, their main criticism is that he is WAY too detached in the season and it damages his dynamic with El. Initially, that was my stance as well. Compared to the other kids(especially the massive growth and maturity seen in Caleb McLaughlin's brilliant performance), he seemed to have gotten worse. However, I am now wondering if these overlooked understated moments with Will are leading us to somewhere. Seeing this videos, I am genuinely asking myself what if Mike is supposed to be queer as well..... IF this is the case when we find out in season 5, then Finn Wolfhard deserves a lot of credit for making it believable, cause the amount of backlash that she got on social media for his acting, it would actually make up for that.
I def heard that a lot too lol. another common (related) complaint I kept hearing is that mike and will didn’t “do anything” in season 4, but I think their main storyline was honestly building their relationship and love story there. they didn’t “do much” in the way of battling the supernatural but the amount of heart to heart scenes they had was truly wild. They had just as many heart to hearts as Lucas and max, and joyce and hopper (if not more)
The creator just making mike seem more and more guilty is giving me butterflies
I genuinely hope Mike and Will to confess to each other in Season 5..... their being in a relationship is optional, but at least, I want them to lay their feelings bare..... Also, Murray being the best shipper, like he accelerated JoycexHopper, NancyxJonathan... I want him to be there for MikexWill too
right like LET THEM TALK without interrupting them please. I would love Murray having a wise gay mentor moment with them too ❤️
No Nancy with steivy boy no Jonathon
omg the comparison to Hermione and Ron is so true
They are so in love I don’t know how anyone could deny it atp.
If they were in love then why would mike still be with el?
@@Lil_mangle87 you have to remember this was the 80’s and being gay was considered a mental disorder… gay marriage wasn’t legal and it was also the AIDS pandemic. Just because they have feelings for each other doesn’t mean they’d act on their feelings. Especially not since they’re best friends too. Why would they want to ruin their friendship? Because of course, neither Mike or Will would ever think their feelings would be reciprocated.
@@Lil_mangle87 wow omg it's almost like you could be killed for being gay in the 80s. like i truly wonder why hmmmm
Right lol who doesn’t know closet ppl exist lolol@@angelwithnightmares
*Mike smiles while talking to will*
People:BylEr
Will got that cake ngl 3:40
I’ve personally never really shipped Will and Mike, but your attention to the details in this show is so precise, and this was entertaining!
tysm 🥰
0:32 Let's not forget that Chamber of Secrets was literally on their inspo list
Since I saw the painting scene, I called it. Those two love each other but Mike hasn't realized it yet. I'll sit here with my tee.
mike has so much internalized homophobia he’s just like me fr
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@@epicstopmotions6589 ur ew
@@fleeting188 good one, how long did it take to think of that comeback??
@@epicstopmotions6589 tbh ur not exactly worth the thinking
@@fleeting188 then why are you talking to me peasent? bugger off
The third 'wheeler'
I was still questioning but after seeing "tender movements interrupted" I am really convinced...
0:31 WAIT THATS LITERALLY IDENTICAL HAHAHAH
"mike isn't gay" did i ask?
they're so endgame it's insane
The director: okay so Boris is in love with his best friend
The director: okay so Richie is in love with his best friend
The director: okay so Mike is in love with his best friend
Finn Wolfhard: 😑
The way he said IN FRONT OF WILL that his life started the day he disappeared😬
will is my favorite fictional gay icon
no, but you forgot to mention him incessantly glancing at will's lips lmaoo
the way you also referenced the office and heartstopper, two of my favorite shows besides stranger things- i love u
i’ve never watched a single episode of this show but i’ve watched like a thousand videos about them on youtube cause they’re dynamic looks so comforting🤍 truly love it
I honestly believe that Mike loves el but like not in that way anymore. He’s liked will since the beginning and is too afraid to tell el that he doesn’t really love her anymore because he’s afraid he’ll break her heart and hurt her really bad. Also I don’t like the concept of Mike and el because I notice El treats Mike horribly, for example: he lied to her bc hopper threatened him in s3 and when he tried to give her context she didn’t listen to him and she dumped him, he cares about her a lot but it doesn’t seem like she does. Another example is when el lied at the roller rink, once will told him, he tried his best to save her from Angela. He also makes her feel special, he tells her she’s a superhero, he helped her fight off vecna, etc.
That’s why I love byler more, bc Mike just seems so much happier around will
Indeed.
i like that one !
I think El isn’t the only issue in the relationship tho it’s also Mike I don’t think they treat eachother right at all
8:38 MIKE EVEN HAD HIS HAND ON WILL'S SHOULDER WTF
Lmao the duffers aren’t even trying to hide it anymore atp😭
i love obsessesed fan who analysis every crumb of every ep, tysm
I love this video and how you broke down the scenes you're a genius
Why was I expecting this video to be over an hour-💀
to be fair I could’ve just played the whole season unedited 😭
You've convinced me
7:31 interesting little thring i noticed, and I have no idea if you pointed it out lol. But see how the vines are tightening around her still, like you would expect them to loosen like it did for Max. But it instead tightening her further, and was whimpering due to the force. The only way she got out was about thinking of her best moments, which STRANGELY, revolves around Max, mainly as well with her relationship with Jonathan and Will. I can’t even remember seeing at the very most two scenes of Mike and her. There could’ve been more or some, and I just didn’t see it. But it’s just strange.
1:28 this is SUCH a good point though like even without the context of mike being totally in love with will why the HELL are you mad at him for "ruining the day" instead of the ppl who threw chocolate milk on your gf and then recorded her crying in the middle of the roller rink?? should that not be your main concern?? instead of will moping around because he's third-wheeling (on his BIRTHDAY might i fuckin add)
i can't even make this sound straight lmfao
yoo this is THE video i needed to see. i never noticed these things by myself but now that you put it this way i wont be able to unsee it cause it all makes soooo much sense omg. thank you for making this
dude you're so welcome, thanks for watching ❤❤
@@gayerthings
The fact that this is eight minutes long is unreal. 😨
There's one that's 50 minutes long
@@abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwyx omg link please
@@margo8964 not the original commenter but here!
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@@cheaplyboughtfrankiero😭 thank you!!
You're galaxy braining (/pos) all over the place you're noticing things I never would have this is amazing I love it
I love how you brought up heart stopper /like the 2 best shows in 1 vid
This was absolutely lovely! ❤
i am a strong supporter that mike said his life started the day he found her in the woods bcause he could have had the chance to find will
This video is so funny!! And well done with paying attention to all those hidden details I had missed a lot of them!
i love these videos, you’re suchh a good editor and these are amazing imagine if you eduted the whole season, and netflix made a series out of it anahahahah i woukd watch that anyday
at this point I'm just binge watching your channel
it's all so factual and entertaining
tysm 😊
4:21 will looked at him like “wait…pause”
if you look at that clip before the "vs hugging will" part youll see Wills hand slightly caress Mike from the back during that group hug lol
This was so good! Will is underrated!
if they don’t end up together i’m gonna scream
They have to
4:29 im prettyyy sure the writers saying something about not believing in love at first sight
OMGGG LOVE THIS SO MUCH!❤
This made my heart happy and my day is better and brighter now - thank you♥️
aww you’re so welcome 🥰
Woah, you've really analyzed this sooo well...
8:33 that look instantly sold it for me.
I LOVE THIS SO MUCH YOU LITERALLY HAVE PROVE🙌
THANK YOU FOR USING ANYTHING BUT THE WII MUSIC
Am I the only one who doesn't see them as ''best friends" after S4?
when Mike said "cool" he gave me the same energy as Jake Peralta telling Amy "cool-co-co-co-cool -cool, no doubt no doubt no doubt"
Watching for the thousandth time! It's so amusing and carefully detailed. 👏
Beautiful exposé!!! 🎉
ty I’m so glad you enjoyed ❤️
I accidentally ended up down the internet rabbit hole of Mike secretly liking Will back in the space of like a day, but i don't regret it 😂
😮 HOW DID I NEVER NOTICE THAT HE ACTUALLY BLUSHED IN THE SCENE?!?!?!?!?!
I’m happy you put heartstopper in this
I LOVE THIS THANK YOU
the second last clip though 💀 "Hey does anybody know the dead d-"