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Apparently there’s some legal issues with Sonic Pocket Adventure that prevent SEGA from even mentioning the game ever again. Ian Flynn said that he wasn’t allowed to have the game featured in any way shape or form in the Sonic Encyclo-Speed-Ia released in 2021, when literally every other Sonic game ever was mentioned in it.
It's because SNK developed it I'm pretty sure. They might have joint ownership. (Though I don't get why SNK wouldn't work with them on that, it's literally something they get 0 money on if they don't let SEGA use it.)
There's also the fact Knuckle's theme from Sonic 3 is in the game, might not seem like a big deal, but considering Sega seems to be scared of legal issues with the whole S3 Music Situation which caused them to just replace it with the S&K theme for origins, they would likely take note of this song too.
And they could also just simply hire a romhacker to remove/replace the song, like Namco usually does to get around legal issues, but Sega I guess, tries to keep their hands clean?
@@polocatfan It really sucks that they couldn't mention it at all, since it was technically the first Dimps game.
I suspect the issue is due to the SNK that made Pocket Adventure and the SNK that exists today being two seperate companies. Back in 2001 SNK went bankrupt and all of their IP was transferred to Playmore (With the CEO and most of the key developers on Pocket Adventure having left a year prior to form Dimps)
I think the issue with working with SNK on it may be less because of the game itself and more because of it being released on a Neo Geo console. SNK (Playmore) seems to be very strict with the Neo Geo brand, with, as far as I'm aware, it only being used since 2001 for At-Games style devices, the Wii Virtual Console, Super Smash Brothers Ultimate, and Switch eShop rereleases of MVS games, and the pretty disastrous Neo Geo X (Which actually may be the main source of this apparent strictness)
@@PercyPanleowell don't forget the out of nowhere release of megaman battle and fighters
Sonic pocket adventure is the best Sonic Handheld game. It is a must play.
The image in my head of a Sega exec at a press event just going up to the mic and saying "Sonic '06" and nothing else to announce a rerelease, in a moment akin to that time at E3 1995 when a Sony exec said "299" and basically preemptively killed the more expensive Sega Saturn, is hilarious
ZU WE MAMA
Since when is 299 a cheaper price than 299?
@@Carsonj13the saturn was selling for 399
@@sonc07 At first.... But by the end of '95, all 32-bit systems were the exact same price: 299. The point I was alluding to is that price had absolutely nothing to do with demise of the Saturn. It's a common misconception that people make for some reason, even though there are plenty of instances where the more expensive console outsold its competition. The Jaguar for instance was 149 in '95, did it "kill" the PlayStation, or even the 3DO for that matter? Nope.
@@Carsonj13 That's because the Atari Jaguar was already out for two years by '95, only ended up having 50 licensed games of VERY mixed quality to its name, and had less overall brand recognition than their competitors, while the recognition they DID have was rather negative (they were the ones who made _E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial,_ the game that almost singlehandedly killed the gaming industry).
i'm so glad you talked about both segasonic arcade game and knuckles' chaotix. definitely should be ported and worked on.
i don't think anyone cares about knuckles' chatoix. even kiro himself mentions this fact.
@@SimonG258I care about Chaotix.
The trackball is hard to emulate on consoles though...
@@markofthewolvessucks8930 The only chances they’ve had were to rerelease on any of the DS or 3DS line of systems, Wii U, or Steam Deck, and they’ve messed it up.
A mobile port could work hypothetically but knowing Sega’s other mobile games, it’d be littered with ads.
Knuckles Chaotix is great (imo)
Sega should have ported SegaSonic for the DS/3DS or Wii U and emulated the trackball on the touch screen
That actually might've worked
Steam deck mousepad
Or the black kigte
ps4/5 mousepad
@@brickmaster-the-ogps5 one is too small tho
I really want Knuckle's Chaotix to be remastered like the other mainline classics. It sucks so bad, but it deserves it!
i dint get why people hate knuckles chaotix... i mean,the controls arent that good, but the game itself is so fun, beautiful, and overall, have you seen a better looking sonic game in the time that chaktix was released? knuckles chaotix had ones of my most favourite soundtracks of all sonic soundtracks, ever. the levels are just wonderful, but i mean, the mechanics are SUPPOSTED to be hard cause the two characters are connected with a ring together, right?
i love that game so much..
@@markfaites I actually quite enjoy the ring tether. It's only so horrible because of the level design.
@@Cool_Kid95 yeah the level design is a bit unorganized and massive so thats one complaint, but overal, the game is literal eyecandy if you dont have nerves or a good memory!
@@markfaites I find the levels empty and boring. I'd love to see the mechanics and characters used in a more traditional Sonic Game.
@@Cool_Kid95 oooh- well its better for you than it is for me, i have a very bad memory, short term, and get disoriwnted quickly, so i find myself usually getting stuck on most of knuckles chaotix levels sometimes. i never do in any other sonic game, plus there are tons of levels and acts in chaotix
Sonic and the Black Knight was pretty good from what I played: granted I wasn't using motion controls (dolphin), and at it's core lies a pretty simple and fun game. They should release it along with Secret rings, and just ditch the motion controls entirely, update the graphics, make them run at a higher frame rate, and fix some jank.
They could pretty easily do a switch port for the games. Similar to the Wii version of Star wars the force unleashed
black knight is amazing
Black knight is legitimately a top 5 sonic game if you don’t use motion controls
If not which port the games need a straight up remastered instead of a collection The universal hatred for the controls and the unbalanced skill cap of sonic and the secret rings Needs to be tone down I disagree entirely with him While 06 is a travesty I believe secret rings are black and I have merit
The one Sonic game rated 10/10 by IGN is a lost gem lmao
Also it's a bit unfair to just slap Black Knight into the same bag as Secret Rings given it gave a lot of improvement to its formula. I'd say it's slightly more likely to be brought back for goodwill.
yeah Black Knight is fine.
He’s saying Sonic The Hedgehog Pocket Adventure is a lost gem! 🤩 maybe you might be a gem!
@@Megameansbusiness I saw the game being played. It looked fun.
So it makes sense to call it a lost gem since it's an obscure but actually pretty good title.
Pocket Adventure has a better chance than you might think. There were 2 Neo Geo Pocket Collection games released not too long ago, which also include 3rd party releases (e.g the Mega Man game), so there's a chance that, if a third volume gets announced, Pocket Adventure might be a part of the lineup
Also I'm pretty sure the original Rush was actually on the Wii U virtual console.
That's what I was thinking. This isn't a channel I watch regularly (I think I've seen a couple videos), but that part made me really question the level of research put in
Rush was not on the eShop. It was mostly first party titles. There were probably plans on adding the games at a later date, but due to the system being a flop, those plans probably fell through.
@@StudioInkblotWell if you had done any research yourself you'd find out Sonic Rush hasn't been released on the Wii U VC...
I've got a ton of nostalgia for Sonic R. I had it on PC and have memories playing it after school in 1st grade in the family computer room, and then heading back to my room to watch DBZ on Toonami :P
I really appreciate how Kiro factors the "not received well" as one of the possible reasons for no rereleases. People be like "Why Sega chose Colors instead of Unleashed when Colors sucked" forgetting that Colors, for several years, was seen as a very good Sonic game with lots of positive reviews, especially outside the fandom, which Colors Ultimate was capitalizing on with the success of the first Sonic movie. It was not until the recent years where the fandom perception changed. Meanwhile Unleashed scored BADLY and was scorned as one of the worst Sonic games by many people (mediocre at best, due to Werehog), especially outside the fandom.
I bet Colors only got a bad reputation because of "Ultimate" seriously, that game hurts the eyes...
The weird (and slightly ironic) thing about Sonic Boom games is that the games were suppose to promote cartoon
But because of how bad the games were handles, it caused the opposite effect, having people stay way from the Sonic Boom brand just because of how bad the games were
In short, if the sonic boom games didn’t exist, then the cartoon would have probably gotten more popular in general
I think authorities would prefer if we kept this disclosed, but a widespread rumor surrounding Knuckles Chaotix is that the game isn't trapped on the 32x, moreso it was imprisoned there as a corporal punishment - most likely for it introducing Charmy the Bee - however much speculation is on the topic. Any other ideas on why though?
Us Charmy stans are oppressed. We must rescue our child!
@@gangstasonic97573 we must fight for the most oppressed race of all; Charmy Stans
I think you could see Sonic Shuffle if and only if they ever do a Dreamcast Mini. You need like 20 games to fill a system like that and you're gonna need a few deep cuts to fill the list out. Same with Sonic R and a Saturn Mini.
@pattersong6637 I'm one of those people who's hoping for both a Saturn Mini and a Dreamcast Mini. For the former, in addition to the Sonic games, some other IPs I'm hoping for include Baku Baku Animal, Bug!, Clockwork Knight, and NIGHTS. For the Dreamcast, I'm hoping for the two Sonic Adventure games and Shuffle, as well as Sega Bass Fishing, Jet Set Radio, Crazy Taxi, Toy Commander, Chu Chu Rocket, and Ooga Booga.
@@FlyingDuckMan360 Saturn Mini is much harder just because so many of the Saturn's best games are only in Japanese. That said, in addition to the games you listed, the Panzer Dragoon games should be on Saturn Mini. Your Dreamcast Mini list is really solid, but there are a bunch you can add like Space Channel 5, Powerstone, and Ikaruga.
It gets hard quick to come up with 20-ish really good Saturn games IN ENGLISH for a Saturn Mini, which is one of the reasons I'm pessimistic about it though I'd love it. Dreamcast Mini should be easy.
@@pattersong6637 Perhaps maybe having 1 or 2 of Capcom's 2D fighting games on the Saturn mini would be cool, since at the time those versions of Capcom's arcade ports ran and played better on the Saturn compared to their PlayStation counterparts.
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I don’t think Secret Rings was that bad, and I really liked Black Knight.
Yeah, Secret Rings was mediocre but Black Knight is a pretty good game once you play without motion controls. A re-release of both with normal controller support would fix the controls entirely.
@@Robotta I just played the game on Wii again, and I still think the game is great on Wii.
DAMN the moment this video came out I was trying to emulate Sonic Unleashed on Xenia. What a timing.
It's on xbox
@@Dzaimon8562 I know but Im not gonna buy a 500 dollar console just to play Sonic Unleashed and there are mods for Unleashed on emulation like turn off the battle music and no medal requariment. But the damn game crashes every 5 minutes.
@@tuna6747use xenia canary
I want rush remakes SO BAD, theyre so good and really fun. Plus the only issue is emulating the dual screen effect
Shouldn’t be too bad, the stage screen can just go up and down with sonic like the other 2D games
@@IvoryCaffeine_ honestly, it's probably best to think of the rush games as having a single giant screen as opposed to two for figuring out how to port it
How you gonna solve the touch screen stuff, some of thise special stafes are brutal
@@markdebruyn1212Capcom already did solve this problem with the release of the Mega Man Zero/ZX Legacy Collection by having the touch screen be controlled by the right stick.
Make it a mobile game in portrait mode, then you can use the touch screen capabilities. The problem then is how the controls would fit, but I'm sure there's a way.
That sonic arcade game looks super cute and the spritework is awesome.
Interesting video! I honestly think the Rush series should really be the ones ported to Steam at least, they are so underrated
I shall not stand for storybook slander
Leave the solid story and music for both games alone. Black Knight has better controls/gameplay.
I cannot defend Secret Rings god awful controls/gameplay and mission structure. Party mode was fun though.
@@Sonic171Kyeah Secret Rings's controls only get fun after like an hour of grinding points to unlock skills
Someone fixed Sonic Free Riders a little while back
They’re fucking awesome
Sonic 06 actually got relisted on the Xbox 360 store sometime recently but I doubt they'd add backwards compatibility even though that'd be legendary
Ngl I'd kill for that lol. If Plumber's Don't wear ties can be in Modern Consoles then So can 06.
6:12 - Agreed. For a sequel to Sonic Shuffle, what I'd like to see in it is the same gameplay (drawing cards to move across the board and battle enemies, collecting seven gems, and the game ending when all seven are collected), but with improved AI (less likely to take your best cards even when they have the exact same ones), new playable characters (Shadow, Rouge, Cream, Blaze, and Silver), and elements more in line with the Sonic franchise (the Chaos Emeralds taking the place of the Precioustones, Dr. Eggman's Badniks taking the places of the Precioustone Monsters, and worlds like Green Hill, Chemical Plant, and Casino Night).
This video not only made me find out Sonic Shuffle exists, but also that the logo seems to be potentially the inspiration of the Pokemon Shuffle logo.
Sonic Advance absloutely needs a collection of some sort, or at the very least add them to the Game Boy Advance NSO. I could potentially see the Sonic Story Book games released if they were reworked to remove motion controls but that's highly unlikely.
By what metric can a DS game be considered trapped? Guarantee you have one down the back of your sofa.
Sonic Battle NEEDS a comeback.
Or at least a sequel
You know what Sonic Shuffle was still a fun game. Would be cool to see the concept come back. Maybe do something more with the cards, like building a deck to use during the gameboard or boss battles.
the first sonic games i played were shadow in my neighbor's house, sonic 4 episode 2 in my dad's ipad and i end up owning sonic riders zero gravity and black knight for the wii.
is wild how much i love those games and the franchise as a whole after those games being my introduction to sonic.
While Secret Rings is pretty hated, and was unplayably awful in my opinion, Black Knight does not deserve to be painted with that brush. It has its fans, and it was pretty fun to play honestly, with one of the best stories in the franchise. It isn't amazing, but it's not a bad game either.
Sonic Pocket definitely deserves more exposure.
Black Knight was goated honestly and the motion controls were actually decent
Still wish these games would see the light again
i really wish sega have some care about sonic heroes because like you said it was your first sonic game you've played in the sonic series and this is applies to me too.
heck, i think it's considered the introduction to the sonic series for most of 2000s sonic fans myself included.
It was my first Sonic game as well, alongside _Sonic Advance 3._
@@MattTOB618 welcome to sonic 2000s club my dude!! 👍😊
That's tragic seeing these Sonic The Hedgehog games won't ever be rereleased ever again 😔
>Nobody cares about Knuckles Chaotix
That hit me so hard because it’s so true, I’m a huge apologist for the game, you are always tethered to your partner, each lead character plays differently with Charmy being one of the most powerful characters in gaming (props if you get the reference), you can accrue negative ring count debt if you press a certain character to get unstuck your characters if you ever get stuck lol which I find hilarious. One of my favorite songs from the game is Marina Madness/Seascape. It also has my favorite special stages in the classic series.
Fellow whoisthisgit viewer? 👀
@@extremmefan7305fellow game apologist viewer?
@@Chrono-and-Co Oh hey, I watch him too
@@extremmefan7305 yooooo
Marina Madness is a great chill song and yeah I did really like the Special Stages too
Sonic 06 is currently in the Xbox marketplace, it was put there in 2022 for 5 bucks.Would love the treatment for Shadow.
To be fair, Neo Geo Pocket Color games have been re-released recently by SNK for the Nintendo Switch and Steam. We even got some Capcom NGPC games like the SNK vs Capcom games, and Mega Man Battle & Fighters.
Maybe SNK can approach SEGA for a re-release deal? 🤷
Oh c'mon, Sonic and the Black Knight isn't THAT bad.
Unleashed and Generations have been stuck in PS3 era purgatory for some time now, so I’d like to see them get a remaster. I know that Gens has a PC port, but from what I’ve heard, it runs super bad, so could still use an upgrade. As well as the original Dreamcast versions of the Adventure games; which to my knowledge, have never been properly ported apart from PC mods for DX. I’d really like to see those ported/remade/remastered, since DX just doesn’t cut it.
Gens PC is fine, also the game runs on Xbox Series X and you can still buy it digitally
@@evdestroy4121 fair enough. I’ve just only heard bad things about it. And anyway, a remaster would certainly do it good. Especially since they’ve seemingly perfected Classic Sonic in 3D for Superstars.
We’re still waiting.
They're both backwards compatible on the Xbox One/Series X, at 60 FPS. And Generations is on PC, and still has an extremely strong modding community.
@@donstarplayz Unleash also is in Xbox Series S and run in 60 fps
« Sonic 06 is never getting rereleased »
Sonic Project-06 (a fan remake that proves the game has a lot of potential): am I a joke to you
Here's hoping this video ages poorly. There have been rumors of rereleases for several years now, most notably Sonic Heroes. I would be surprised if we didn't get any of these back over the next few years, especially with the impending gap between major releases. Frontiers 2 is still a few years off, and with Sega interested in "keeping the ball rolling", a re-release/collection would make perfect sense in 2024 or 2025.
I'm probably one of the few weirdos who had a good time with Knuckles Chaotix and even prefers him over to Sonic CD.
Luckily regarding Sonic 06, we have Project06 to look forward too on PC. Though I think it's technically cheating to say when it comes to this list, since it's a unofficial fan made remaster lol
But the thing is, once you mention “we have the PC blah, blah, blah”, you’ve literally opened up the possibility to play ALL games ever made. This video is talking about “legit” ways of playing these games without the use of original hardware.
sonic gems collection really had a lot of missed potential
"No one cares about Knuckles' Chaotix"
So i guess i'm invisible
Sonic Unleashed: hold my 5/5 score
It isn't trapped. It's already playable on the Xbox Series and even has a 60fps patch
It is trap on Xbox. D:
Imagine a rerelease of Sonic ‘06 that fixed all the issues with the original and then they put in a toggle to put all those issues back in.
Cool
Just wanna comment to say I don't think I've ever seen anyone use the word *That're* ever 💀
*Amazing video as always though, would love to see Rush or Heroes ported/remastered someday*
It might not be proper English lol
New contraction just dropped
@@SauceBoss14 It's not new, but it has never been officially accepted as real English. If you might happen to be writing dialogue for a character who uses much more colloquial speech, you could get away with it. But absolutely don't use "that're" formally or on a real document.
Ive wanted sonic heroes to be ported, remastered, get a sequel, just whatever for so long. Its also my first sonic game so the nostalgia is strong
I like to see how these games can be relevant in today's modern gaming systems as either re-releases or remasters or straight from the ground up remakes like Crash N sane trilogy and Spyro Reignited trilogy.
Goldeneye 64 is not that obscure, it’s even considered one of, if not THE best n64 FPS game
Sonic Pocket Adventure would’ve been perfect for the 3DS Virtual Console. I remember when NGPC titles were announced for the 3DS VC, but they sadly never came.
That person he mentioned on owning a neo Geo pocket color....🙋🏻♂️
12:10 Sonic P-06 by ChaosX fixed Sonic 06 finally
don't forget the only good unmodded version of SA1 stuck on dreamcast
The sonic rush games are GOATED
I only like the first one. The waterbike in the sequel was annoyingly STUPID.
@@Sonic171KI remember you
*game
5:33 Canonically, it was the first Sonic game to introduce Eggman's modern design.
Hold your tongue over the storybook games. Those were my childhood ✊️😔💯🔥
As a big fan of Sonic R and Shadow the Hedgehog I'd certainly prefer not to forget them.
Sonic R is definitely too short and the controls take a little getting used to but those controls definitely aren't bad like the internet mob likes to parrot. It's the only racing game in the franchise that uses the footrace format allowing for more creative track layouts, multiple interwoven pathways like the classic games, and the use of character specific abilities the latter of which didn't make canon sense because Sonic and Metal Sonic are way too fast for any of their competitors but so what, the other classic games and other games since all follow the same gameplay logic.
Shadow the Hedgehog is fun. The gunplay works well without complicating the controls and has a decently varied arsenal. The missions certainly range in quality but are also fun regardless, a clear improvement on the Chaotix gameplay from Heroes which was also fun although sometimes tedious. Shadow controls well too: They clearly used Heroes as the base and as a result the top speed is still amped a bit too high with slippery control but this game added a mechanic that stops Shadow dead in his tracks if while running he approaches a ledge and it also slowed him down a little while jumping allowing for more precise landings. They also added the Spindash in place of Heroes' Rocket Accel which is more iconic and has its uses and they also tweaked the homing attack which works really well. Sure the story was more edgy than serious at times but it's an E10+ video game from a franchise that's certainly touched on some serious topics but is generally and at its core a children's cartoon about animal people with powers and magic jewelry so I don't understand why anyone expects a narrative masterpiece. I've never understood why it matters to people if the characters lightly swear or not although I do find it funny that the use of the words "Damn" and "Hell" by a few members of the cast is a common criticism about this game that the internet mob parrots but that same mob (I presume there's significant overlap) praise the Japanese dub of Sonic X in part for it's use of swear words that were all censored out in the English dub.
I'd love to see these two games ported to modern hardware perhaps with minor bugfixes, nothing game-changing, although porting as is would be great too. Alternatively or additionally one or both of these getting a sequel, either in a spiritual or literal sense, would also be exciting.
Highly agree on the shadow the hedgehog one its so fun imo.
Charii5 pointed this out when making his "Everything wrong with Sonic Origins". He noticed that the collection has OST of Knuckles' Chaotix, but not the game itself. It became very hard for him because there were no re-releases for it or modern emulators for it. So, he had to play it with real Sega 32X hardware.
there are 32x emulators lol
I'm pretty sure most Mega Drive emulators work as 32x emulators, you just need to set a few things up
Kega fusion can play it with no issues. Though, I'm not sure people even know what that is.
I played Chaotix on an emulator just fine a few months ago.
So many Sonic games that’ll be forever be trapped into the depths of their own console exclusives for all eternity. It’ll be nice to see them get a re release, if Sega themselves care about them.
I am happy that you included Sonic Rush in it because I just finished the whole story of Sonic Rush on my Nintendo DS lite.
I got the game and the Ds lite in 2023 summer but I just loved playing that game except some zones that had me killed every time and put me to game over screen. But other than that Sonic Rush soundtrack is so good, the zone music. It's just so good.
I don’t consider the Steam Deck a dead console 🏴☠
It came out in 2021 of course it's not dead.
The reason why the Sonic Advanxe games aren’t rereleased is because of the controls and the hardware and also we have to deal with the companies
"I'm pretty sure Sega wants you to forget this game even existed", so about that...
Wdym? Black Knight was actually really good, fun even. And Sonic was so well written here. Better written than TMOSTH ot Unleashed
Nah the ending was complete garbage in black Knight lol
Sonic Shuffle, Knuckles Chaotix, Advance 1-3, Sonic Battle
Wasn't there a PC release of Heroes?
yeah but it sucked
Heroes sucks in general. People lied to my face saying it was a good game. I even went for the supposedly best version on GameCube.
@@Sonic171K My guy I think you should learn what an opinion is
@@borttheattorney6012lol
@@Sonic171KTrue
A few notes:
Their issue with SegaSonic's trackball is ridiculous. Just map the direct to a joystick and the rolling to a button. The presentation, sound, graphics, and animation are too good to leave out of their catalogue.
Fans have warmed up to R as a bridge between Sonic 3D and Sonic Adventure. I know you said that Sonic 3D gets lumped with the other Genesis games, but it's literally a separate listing on Steam right now. R has an old .exe that could easily be patched and put on Steam too.
Sonic Battle being left out of the Advance collection would be foolish because Advance 3 continues its Gizaoid storyline.
Shadow '05 get references a tonne in other games, so clearly the Sonic Team is aware that it has fans and is proud of it in some regard. Sonic x Shadow Generations will likely remaster some of its stages, so it's not as unlikely as you say for Shadow '05 to be released.
The DS is one of the most emulated consoles, so not sure why you think it'd be that complicated for a game developer to port it.
Your comments on what fans think of Sonic and the Black Knight are misguided. Most fans actually like it. It's underrated and you should look into it more.
By the way, Sonic '06 was already relisted in 2022 in some countries, and a fanmade recreation that fixes its bugs, controls, and physics shows that its level design was always great. Even the original had great concepts, art direction, and music despite early forums hating on it entirely. Dismissing Sonic '06 like this is kinda old.
The Sonic games that I most want to play are 'the adventure games and heroes' I'm still praying for quality ports of the games on modern consoles.
Black Knight is good tf
While I do find it fun even I can tell it’s not that great as it’s just waggle the wiimote the game sonic edition
To be fair, Sega technically did re-release Sonic 06 when they randomly re-listed the game a few years ago on the Xbox 360 Marketplace.
Yeah
Knuckles Chaotix isn't as good as the other 2D Sonic games, but (speaking as someone who got a 32X and that game back in the day, and I still have them) it is a lot better in my opinion than a lot of people give it credit for. And frankly I'd rather play it over some of the lesser Sonic games from the 3D era.
Sonic Unleashed sitting in the corner: Guess no one cares about me
Bro wants beef with Black Knight fans
12:10 funny thing, it HAS been rereleased… kinda. It was delisted back in 2010, but earlier this year was silently relisted for only 5 bucks on the Xbox Marketplace. Not backwards compatible tho and the store’s shutting down next year soooo…
Yeah.
I have 2 Neo Geo Pockets and I can tell you that the joystick is one of the most fantastic things I've ever tried. Sonic Pocket Adventure is mandatory on the system.
I really love that Sonic Game.
I love Knuckles’ Chaotix with my heart and soul and I will die on that hill.
It's aesthetically gorgeous, features a fantastic soundtrack (even by the sky-high standards of its origin series), and boasts one of the most uniquely fascinating playable prototypes of the 16-bit era. Certainly not meritless from a purely artistic perspective.
Shame about the actual game, though.
9:37 this part aged kinda poorly and I love it sega does NOT want me to forget about the goat🐐
hold on no sonic and the black knight was freaking great. people need to stop judging it off secret of the rings
Preserving Sega titles is a moot point, because they seem to deliberately turn a blind eye to emulation. They literally allow people to sell ROMhacks on Steam. Sega Smash Pack's code straight up provides instructions on how to illicitly use the emulator to play other Genesis and Master System titles not included in that compilation. Even Kega Fusion was developed by a Sega employee
Man, such a missed opportunity for Chaotix to not be in Origins Plus. Even as a 100% bonus or anything smh 🤦
We need a sonic advance collection so bad those are some of my favorite sonic games ever. Rush is also one of my favorites but I can still play it on my ds
In the minority here: I Love Knuckles Chaotix and wish it would get another shot , whether that be Christian Whitehead- ish re-release or a plain port. Definitely not an amazing game but I love it for it’s color palette, characters and music.
Knuckles 32X had a pretty alright soundtrack imo. Sonic Rush's OST was mediocore i guess
Oh man i remember i got Sonic Rush on my DS. I remember it took me so long to make it through the game. Eventually my game stopwd working because the used DS i got had corroded prongs and it messed up pretty much all of my ds games
When it comes to hand held games not being rereleased, it has taken game companies until about now to realize that people want these games. We’ve seen them finally rerelease Mega Man games, Castlevania, and so on recently. So I think it will happen.
… except for DS/3DS games. That duel screen thing makes it so developers have to put in a LOT more effort to port those games.
With Sonic Pocket Adventure, there's a chance that if SNK were to do a NeoGeo Pocket Color Selection Vol.3, it might be among the titles included. With the Sonic Advance series, a THQ Nordic title is on Game Boy Online, so Nintendo could therefore untangle the U.S. rights for a GBA Online release. And with Knuckles Chaotix, there is music from it advertised as part of some Sonic Origins DLC, and 32X titles might be mixed in to SEGA Genesis Online in the future.
Title said "Dead Consoles"
Shows Sonic Rush in the thumbnail
The DS games were just announced for the switch. Cant wait to listen to those rush tunes again.
take a shot every time you hear “the worst sonic game”
Another possible issue for Sonic Rush being rerrleased seems to be the music.
Sonic Rush has great music, and Sega has liked to reuse in games like Sonic All Stars Racing, Smash Bros, and the Mario Sonic series. However, somehwere allong the line, the OSTs were removed from music platforms like iTunes. And then, Right There, Right On, a consitent mainstay in Mario & Sonic and Smash Bros, stopped appearing in Rio and Ultimate.
A brief instrumental remix of Vela Nova appeared in Team Sonic Racing, so it might be an issue with vocals
I think with the ds games, the only way I can see them working on modern consoles is with the switch's screen options.
Some of their games you can turn the system vertically to simulate some of the arcade titles. But this was a feature I rarely used, but it's the only way I can see games like sonic rush being functional.
i miss sonic rush. years ago my brother and i were getting rid of a bunch of DS games and that was one of them :( i also would love to see a remake of adventure. ive never played it because i wasnt a 90s kid...colors was my first sonic game 😭🫶🏻 im glad that got ported to the switch but lets be honest it couldve been so much better! ive been trying to replay it and its just...eh. SORRY FOR THE RANT LOL
I actually love Knuckles' Chaotix. That game is unironically fun to play, and I love it's aesthetic and music.
Rush is my favourite handheld Sonic game. It’s sad that the only ways you can play it is on DS, 3DS, or emulation. Honestly, no one really talks about it anymore but it’s still great (Also even though no one really cares about Knuckles Chaotix, it’s soundtrack is SO GOOD) :)
Love that the lowest rated one on the list is the closest one to actually being rereleased.
Sonic X Shadow generations is effectively a shadow sequal.
Another reason on why SegaSonic the Hedgehog isn’t rereleased is because of Japan since to get the Arcade machine rereleased they would need to go to Japan and also pay for some stuff and also implement some new controls all while that we have the problem of Hardware which is a whole other can of worms
Nah man didn't mention Sonic schoolhouse 💀
Black Knight is my favourite Sonic game no question and it pains me that it’s stuck on Wii (Wii U as well with backwards compatibility, that’s how I usually play it, but both of these systems are dead). I would kill for a Switch/PS5 port, seriously!
Sega may want us to forget Shadow, but it's not that bad of a game. It's only those stupid Ark levels that have you scouring for 1 or 2 random enemies with no minimap, everything looks the same, and sometimes they just don't spawn.
The Storybook games could at least be revisited in concept, but with a more traditional control scheme. There is no reason being based on fairytales and stuff would require having waggle controls that suck. Just give it a boost style gameplay and go wild.