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JOHN PETRUCCI'S GUITAR UNIVERSE 2.0 GUTHRIE GOVAN VS JOHN PETRUCCI
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- čas přidán 23. 08. 2021
- JOHN PETRUCCI'S GUITAR UNIVERSE 2.0 GUTHRIE GOVAN VS JOHN PETRUCCI
John Petrucci e sua banda realizaram uma super jam com Guthrie Govan, Tosin Abasi, Andy James, Mike Mangini e Jon Finn no evento Guitar Universe 2.0 de John Petrucci.
JOHN PETRUCCI'S GUITAR UNIVERSE 2.0 ocorreu de 6 a 10 de agosto de 2018 na Mansion at Glen Cove em Glen Cove, NY.
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The best thing about Guthrie is his personality, He's a very humble person
it really looks like
He just is. Will talk about coffee or a comedy as he does music. He just is ... him.
He goes touring everywhere with guitar in his bag...
That, and it’s AMAZING guitar skills!
Tbh so is John. Its one reason I like him because i just never got into DT and that stuff.
I love the way these phenomenal musicians are hanging off every note Guthrie is playing like "what's he going to do next?". Endless inspiration. Each a master in their own right with so much respect towards one another. Beautiful.
Truth. Everyone is having fun right now.
Hail to the KING 👑
the thing that makes guthrie's playing transcendent is that he is not, "i'm going to play lots of notes" and that he is, "i happen to play lots of notes... and i'm going to make something musical, meaningful and beautiful."
The talent on that stage is outrageous. That audience got their money's worth.
Petrucci is an extremely humble dude. We met eye contact during the 20th anniversary tour of metropolis pt2 and he was totally into it, and so was I. Magical moment. Head bangs together. I love this man no homo.
Guthrie Govan is the most complete and versitile guitarist ever lived. He can play anything
I agree, but don't forget Buckethead, he is far ahead in terms of creativity. I like govan a lot, but i love ❤️ Buckethead
Buckethead, I think is superior. He can play anything Guthrie's written. The reverse just isn't true.
@@vikramshetty271 This is just a blatant falsity. Not only could Guthrie play anything Buckethead has ever written, but so could Paul Gilbert. Paul taught buckethead and if you REALLY listen, Buckethead's shreds are just a mashup of the same ole Gilbert lick moved around the fretboard. When I was a teenager and first learning guitar, I was a Buckethead superfan as well. That was up until I had my horizons expanded.
There is no vs. because they're all amazing and best at being themselves.
Mike Mangini amazing on drums holding it down.
I've heard this solo over a 100 times now .... I still get goosebumps and cheer like Tosin does
JOHN PETRUCCI...you are legend🔥
Guthrie is the ultimate God of Guitar. Such an incredible range of styles, he steals the souls of the other guitarists and seamlessly incorporates them into his music
he totally failed here
@@zakki8308🤡🫵🫵🫵you maaaaddd
@@Guthrie26 blind fan boy
@@zakki8308 🤡🤡🤡🫵🫵🫵🫵🤡🤡🤡🤡
@@zakki8308 stfu u got a AI photo
2:57 Pity not having this with better sound quality, Govan is the master of the masters, absolutly amazing his techniques
It seems that everyone's audio has this problem. But the improvisation was almost a dialogue, "the guitar said something interesting". 1:44
@@MusicLessons Yeah It's true, was beaultiful what he did! On the improvisation, Govan is the master, I'm shocked at him once again S2
Hola shit that lick gave me a glimpse of Shawn Lane
Guthrie listens to drummers like no other guitarist, watch that nod at 2:25 and the ensuing collaboration between guitarist and drummer.
You hear this kind of interaction between Guthrie and Marco (drums) in the solo from Steve Wilson’s Drive.
Mangini was traveling in Guthrie space
Great catch! :)
I wish they would put that out in a DVD quality concert style, there are some epic lead runs in there but the masters!
I wanted it too, it would be very good
not to mention that beautiful harmony that was set up, an absolutely beautiful chord progression, kinda steven wilson vibes
Gutrie é tão bom,mas tão bom, que ele não toca nunca pra humilhar..mas quando toca humilha qualquer um mesmo sem querer kkkk. Talento dado por DEUS!
Bruh Guthrie OH MY GOOOOOOD. I can’t believe he did that on the spot
kkk..o cara é um gênio.
Petrucci's tone is insane...
Yup
My 2 favorite guitarists. Guthrie is definitely the more versatile, more skilled, MUCH more improvisationally sound guitar player. But for my personal taste, no other guitarist has played the perfect melodies to my ears quite like JP. From Images and Words all the way to Distance Over Time, his note choice is just perfect. At a live improv setting though, yeah nobody is touching GG
I agree. In this video Guthrie Govan made the guitar "dialogue" more. And Petrucci is like that master that everyone stops to listen to.
@@MusicLessons trooch is a skilled as Guthrie
Yeah his improvisation is unmatched on the guitar, very creative, the dude can go anywhere!!!
@@GeoffreySplaneChannel That’s fair, and I love hearing it as JP is my single favorite of all time. But I just meant that Guthrie has a broader range of skills. Like JP, Guthrie has top tier alternate picking, tapping, and sweeping (though he doesn’t prefer using it much), but he also has things JP doesn’t use like hybrid picking, insane funk rhythm, straight up country finger picking, jazz fusion playing, etc. Add to that the skill of absolutely mind blowing improv, and I think he just has more in the toolbox
@@CompleteProducer84 that's because John play something else. Govan did this his entire life. You can't compare them if you're a little smart.
I really would love to see Guthrie have a jam with Steve Lukather it would be anazing...
Based comment. Amazing underrated guitarist...
@@mrfairact8662 ubiquity doesn't necessarily mean acclaim tbh
Guthrier e fora do normal seu modo de tocar assombra até seus colegas de palco o cara têm um repertório diferenciado os outros até pararam pra assistir sensacional diferenciado se e louco
Os improvisos do Ghutrier são como solos elaborados... além.da tecnica e dominio em diversos estilos ele tem uma capacidade absurda de inovar. Deu aula neste vídeo.
Oq os outros precisam de racks de efeitos, Govan faz com uma pedaleira simples.
Many of my favorite guitarists. Dave Larue, amazing bass player, I played with him live many years ago. John, Guthrie, and Tosin, whom I've never met, but would be honored to perform with. And Jon Finn, who many of my Berklee Students have studied with, I have corresponded with. I feel some sort of relation with all of these great guitar players. Not just personal hero's, but as "Guitar Bro's. We guitarists should consider all other striving, and performing guitarists, as bothers of the same crazy cult. We all share the same sickness, and we all aim to please. You all go, bro's! You all go!!!!
JP do you normally play anything beautiful in anytime anywhere?? You are the composer of the composer always creating the impossible melodies❤❤ not even in the next 100 years human will be born like JP and Guthrie in guitar world 🌎 Love it ❤❤
Guthrie is that good that you just can't ignore how awesome he is and then.. suddenly... you found yourself inmerse.. staring at his playing as Petrucci, Abasi and pretty much everyone was... As if his playing were addictive..
Everyone wants to know what will come out of those ropes. It's always amazing!
O repertório de possibilidades de Guthrie é infinito difícil alguém bater kkkkkk
kkk como se fosse um poliglota
O maluco é de outro mundo, literalmente!!
Foi estranho, o John de fechar na técnica e não deixar espaço para a interação. Para quem conhece ele sabe que ele interage bem. Acho que ele levou pro pessoal, pra competição. Tipo assim: vou "falar até o final e não importa o que vc tem a responder.
@@MusicLessons de fato ele é um “poliglota” musical né, do country ao metal
Guthrie is the best guitar player I have ever heard.
Then your ears were not working when John and Andy James played.
@@SamaBRJno your ears don't work, Guthrie won here, Andy just show off and petrucci just shredding speed out of nowhere
@@muhammadaliffauzan2820 Nice joke, fanboy. I didn't know he also has fans. 😂
@@SamaBRJ fanboy? lol I bet u don't even play guitar
JP is like "not in my house"
verdade ele toca mais metal progressivo
🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@jacksonjackson2676 já tu pensa que ele mora em todo canto...kkkk
lol 3:06 Tosin, Andy and John, 3 guitar gods watching Guthrie and they know ... they know ...
You can see the respect JP has for Govan by the smile. Actually when they trade off you see the mutual admiration and respect.
What a ridiculous amount of talent on one stage!
3:04 Andy James and John Petrucci reacting to Guthrie's run is priceless.
Andy James tocó metal de verdad como ninguno todos lo miraron también a el. Pero acá no está en este video esa parte
I love Tosin’s reaction to Guthrie’s solo haha. I was smilling too 😊
JP for me is the best composer, for my taste. But Govan is the best performer and have the biggest pallette of sounds. Is immense the quantity of sounds he can produce. But in studio JP has a composer is the ultimate machine, but nowadays he is just a remixer of himselve. In the old times with Ibanez petrucci was more out of the box and more complex in the creation process. I believe that the instrument is always a limitation. That music man must be supreme but the sound is always the same, with Ibanez petrucci had more bite and with that comes other ways of producing sound that fits the personality of the instrument too. The supreme quality of petrucci sound comes to a place where it is over processed (not that is over processed, but is the type of sound that my ears recognize has processed/studio quality). Seeking perfection isn't always the place where you want to be, the limitations is what gives the guitar the sound of a guitar, if you know what i mean. Anyways, just my opinion, not the truth, there is no thing like "the truth". If you read this John, this is not a bad critic just me recognizing your process of evolution and of seeking your dream sound, that's what makes you and the epic sounds you have produced your whole live. It is what makes your constructions has an artist.
An interesting take indeed. However, when it comes to production and playing, Petrucci is much better now (seems like he polished his upward picking since the Six Dregrees days). I agree that DT sounds similar nowadays, and I wish it was more different, but that's expected considering they have +15 albums. Liquid Tension Experiment and JP's solo project, though, are completely unique and shows how versatile John truly is. Highly recommend those two last albums.
Govan is an inspiration. No way to put it. Although he's not as strong as a composer/songwriter, his energy on improv is pretty cool. If he worked his structure and licks even more, he would be unstoppable!
Ritchie Blackmore
At 7:03 they were about to do a 2 vs 2 battle, but found out with all that power the universe will implode, so the decided not to
kkk verdade o mundo estava próximo do fim
@@milankotevski1663 then learn portuguese, dude
@@gabrielaino320 you're right. I deleted my comment. I must have been drunk or something.
@@milankotevski1663 it's ok buddy
Guthrie Govan e Tosin Abasi conseguem somar versatilidade, agilidade e criatividade. São diferentes dos demais.
Criaram um movimento diferente realmente
Tosin tem um som psicodélico, meio nada igual , foi um experimento dele acredito...
@@alexiwildchild7937 ele é muito experimental
Se eu tô tocando e o batera conta o tempo assim eu me perco kkkk
I hope John and Co. enjoyed the clinic as much as I did.
When you can do anything on the guitar, it's still not enough and this is often proven, but GG just has that X-factor where he connects with the guitar gods or something. :)
Whoever booked Guthrie for this deserves a medal. I would love to have a compilation video of everyone who has worked with him not just guitarists just complimenting him and saying how good he is.
I enjoy all musicians and guitarists because they all have something unique to share. But in my opinion, Guthrie is at another level because of his versatility and command of the fretboard.
Whatever you think his level is, he has a l9mg way to go to reach Petrucci's level, period.
@@SamaBRJ So what *you think* of Petrucci is irrevocable truth we suppose...
Lol!!
@@SamaBRJyou mad aswell🤡🤡🫵🫵
Guthier impressiona, mas o solo do Petrucci bate lá no coração. Ele é o Dream Theater, não tem jeito.
Difícil não dá um crédito para o Petrucci, o cara é muito fera. E o Guthrie Govan aloprou nesse improviso.
Eu acho foda demais do Petrucci como o timbre dele serve a ele, o cara dominou demais o que faz na guitarra. O playstyle dele com o timbre dele é bizarro de absurdo... Os shows ao vivo sempre tem uma sonoridade monstra na guitarra e o timbre dele entra na tua alma, ele domina demais o que ele faz....
@@C4rc455 O cara impresssiona desde os anos 90, um guitarrista incrível realmente.
@@C4rc455 cara ele e muito bom de timbre mais o guthrier e alienígena fez coisas fora do eixo
Cara, vi como se o Jonh tivesse que por algum motivo provar alguma coisa para alguém, mais o estranho é que todos sabem da capacidade técnica dele, e foi o que exatamente ele mostrou, mas acho que entendi, ele deve ter agido assim por conta da forma que os fãs o veriam e tbm por conta dos patrocinadores, pois vi o Govan, passando para ele a vez, e ele agiu como se tivesse só, sem interação alguma. Ele é excepcional, mas não achei a atitude dele legal não.
O melhor foi o Mangini puxando a contagem no contra, e a cara de pânico do Peteucci kkkk
Também gosto quando o batera faz essas coisas..kkk..quem não estudou isso deve ficar muito louco..
Guthrie is from a different planet. His brain is wired to his strings the way normal people’s brain is connected to their 5 senses. Then his brain flows from one wonderful idea to the next and can hear it.
he totally failed here
@@zakki8308you maaddd again 🤡🤡🫵🫵🫵🫵
A shout out to the amazing drummer who really enhances where the lead player is at and where he's going. Everyone here is such a talented and tasty player.
Guthrie's improvisation skills are clearly way ahead of everyone elses. I wish he was able to compose more metal band type songs as a side project. I wonder if he could generalize his lead skills to hard rock or metal type songs with a singer?
It's Mike Mangini
@@silentman2 Who? … I kid.. Mike’s a solid person all around and of course an amazing drummer! 😎
It would be amazing indeed!
But I also like all the "The Aristocrats" albums. I believe he is happier with this type of project.
@silentman2 the guy broke everything
@meungawa truth
John has admitted that Guthrie is a huge inspiration to him
probably referred to footwear...
verdade
I'm a huge fan of Dream Theater, i love the playing of JP but... the phrasing and the technique of Guthrie are unsurpassed
@@jacopol.9642 you have to listen to Matteo Mancuso. He eats Govan for breakfast:)
@@davidderoux7552 not yet 😉
Well Tosin fuckin loved that xD so did I! GG is a genius!
Tosin muito fera
I'm looking at the neck/fretboard of Tosin Abasi's guitar and wondering where one of my garden fence panels has gone! This is terrific stuff!
Guthrie has magic in his fingers
Whenever I hear Guthrie, I always hear Steve Howe fused with Allan Holdsworth...
🌎✌️🌱🎶
Truth^
Is Steve Howe an influence in his playing?
Andy James killed it here.
Super love both of them❤🎸
dois feras
Seeing this live was just…🫨🫠
Mike Mangini!
O cara Arrebentou
Legends
Mestres da música
Pra mim o Andy roubou a cena com aquela velocidade toda por tanto tempo. Até os caras esticaram a cabeça pra ver o que ele tava fazendo.
Ele é muito fera tbm.
@@MusicLessons todos são kkkk
Amigo ele estava e amando escutar Guthrie, acho que ninguém queria mais tocar ahah xD ...
Fala sério o cara e bom mais sem muita criatividade pra empolgação o golvan que roubou a cena com sua forma de pensar saindo totalmente do eixo que os caras toca o cara fusion e outro nível
I have just recently discovered Guthrie, but he is slowly becoming one of my favourite guitarists.
He's basically God but on the guitar
John petrucci win this one’s better feel tone and efex! I love Guthrie so amazing and strong theory but he should use more effects in this type of situation! Good stuff love both
¿Notaron el sudor frío en sus frentes? 🤣🤣 Para mi gana Govan, la hizo muy bien, se acopló a la armonía de forma magistral en un género que no es su fuerte. Petrucci en cambio estaba en su zona de confort, en el suyo, en su estanque. Eso y que llevó la mini nevera (ese Rack multi efectos de la NASA) mientras que los demás suponga que tenían un modesto pedal y el amplificador. Quiero ver a Petrucci improvisando un solo de jazz progresivo
Seguramente Govan estaba más cómodo.
Guthrie alcanzó un nivel teórico y práctico con la guitarra tan alto que le permite superar cualquier limitante en cuanto a expresión, puede explayar cualquier melodía o sentimiento que se le venga a la mente, todo lo teórico y práctico, como escalas, formas de tocar y demás, pasó a segundo plano, debe ser algo inconsciente para el, a si como un escritor profesional ni piensa en los tiempos verbales o reglas sintácticas de manera "consciente" a la hora de expresarse, sino como algo ya incorporado, automático, sólo se centra en la idea que viene a la mente, directo de su imaginación y eso mismo le da la libertad de entrar y salir de cualquier género. Lo único, es que creo que a veces peca con un exceso de velocidad, cuando su máximo potencial esta en su feeling épico.
Punto set y partido
Guthrie manda
@@nicolaslopez2270 adhiero totalmente. Esta en otro universo, pero se pasa de mambo un poco con la velocidad. Pero también pensá el contexto , está en un campamento de manijas que quieren ver un millón de notas por segundo jajaja
Maybe you thought some parts are being skipped in the video. That’s not the case. In fact, some of their lead passages just exceeds light speed bends time giving the impression that it’s being skipped 😅
kkk what a trip... but that's it time travel is the future.
Brasil love Guthrie
They are all amazing but Petrucci's tone just cuts through them you instantly know it's him.
That second piece of petrucci is really outstanding!
he improvised well
Guthrie Govan is unbelievable! hahaha
surprised everyone
Tosin is looking to guthrie and learning with an smiled face, thinking "what the hell is doing here and there"
best horror movie i ever seen as a guitarist
Petrucci e um genio o melhir d 20 anos pra ca
Concordo o cara é dono de uns riffs e solos mais loucos que eu ja ouvi...kkk
Que nada, passa longe disso... O fraseado do JP é manjado em geral o vídeo chega a dar sono porque vemos novamente os mesmos motivos melódicos e frases não há sonoridades diferentes... Teste escutar mais Jeff Beck por exemplo ou Sidney Carvalho que aí sim tem um som diferente dessa mesmice de 20 anos...
@@dixiedoctor2563 Galera peço que apoiem meu canal como puderem pois
ESSE VÍDEO SERÁ DELETADO!.
O CZcams está solicitando a remoção desse vídeo alegando que o usuário chamado "indradista" é o dono do vídeo. Então assistam os outros vídeos aqui, se inscrevam, compartilhem, comentem e ativem as notificações. Não vamos parar de postar coisa boa aqui, vlw!
@@dixiedoctor2563 Dá sono em vc.
@@dixiedoctor2563 ta fumando o que pra falar tanta bosta?
Guthrie govan es un genio. Toca lo que quiere, donde quiere, cuando quiere y como quiere. Petrucci es uno más a su lado.
Verdade são músicos completos, dois gênios.
Uno más a lado de Guthrie pero a tu lado Petrucci si es un genio y muy grande pero tú... Bueno tú solo escribiste este comentario tan patético eso es lo que eres ~.~
@@frankvolta2658 Para mim os dois são geniais
@@frankvolta2658 tolerante, educado y respetuoso, todo un ejemplo de persona tú.
@@ramongutierrez5399 bueno eso es lo que genera tu comentario, más buena vibra ;)
Na minha opinião o que diferencia o Guthrie é que ele é um guitarrista de Jazz, mas com a agressividade e o punch de um guitarrista de metal. Meio que uma mistura de Scott Henderson, Dimebag e Satriani, dentre outros. 😅
Chris Poland
Petrucci is my player ❤
I've committed a cardinal sin.....I watched a Guthrie video before liking it.....😔
Petrucci : the brain, Govan : the soul ......
Guthrie is exeptional but John is a Legend
Great
Petrucci is over rated.
Sometimes you gotta just laugh and shake your head at Guthrie's playing, he's a monster!
Petrucci is an excellent guitar player, but Govan. OMFG. He is out of this world.
A whole boatload of talent up on that stage lol.
I love all these players, but in an improvisational "head-cutting" scenario like this, there are only a handful of players who have ever lived who could match up with Guthrie.
He really masters improvisation with ease.
Well said my friend
Only three letters...
SRV
This comment makes Kiko Loureiro laugh

This comment makes Kiko Loureiro laugh
you mean in a rock setting obviously.......because great jazz and fusion players do this all their lives
love this shit man tyty for posting this
Tosin looks so into everyones playing
I love them everyone!
Theoretically : Guthrie
Musically: John
But this is not an Olympic. Both are great.
Gostei dessa análise.
Wrong!
Guthrie : Maestro
Petrucci :"weeddlyweedlyweedlyweedlywooooooo"
@@alesis100 kkk
@@alesis100 hey, isn't Guthrie the Maestro who ruined Hans Zimmer's show? The one who broke the guitar string ....wtf:))))
@@davidderoux7552 he didnt ruin the show you dumbass :-) he played flawlessly in spite of the broken string and improvised. Petrucci would be his go to weeedllllyyyy weeedlllyyyy woooooo. Do you even play guitar Dodo???/wtf :))))) Ssuch a Petrucci fanboy. Even if he farts fanboys applaud :-)
should rematch !!
verdade
Omg this is like watching Goku vs Goku in dragon ball heroes this is absolutely amazing and epic
kkk genius that's right!
Guthrie is in a different place to most guitarist so there are no comparisons. He is very organic and have an extreme knowledge and technical skill that is rooted in fusion. Petrucci is just tight and furious with a ton of passion and his vibrato is superior to most. I prefer listening to Petrucci because I can soak it up although I have nothing but respect for Guthrie and he blows me away but it takes work to listen to him. Much like the Vai/Satriani thing.
Great analysis. Petrucci used emotion more and Govan made the guitar "dialogue" as if in conversation.
@@MusicLessons I agree with both of you. My personal experience is that despite the fact that I've been John's fan for 20 years and that I have nothing but love for him ... after listening to Gutrhie's his solo sounds automatic, struggling to find the right key and using speed to cope with lack of knowledge. I think that Satriani, Vai and John are somewhat similar, Satriani is the most musical one with that bluesy tone, Vai is pure show, but a great player too . And Petrucci is kinda in the middle, best of both in one plus the power. Maybe it´s because I'm more of a jazz musician that I think Guthrie is the best of every guitar legend put into one musician, is simply outstanding. An endless cascade of ideas
@@konodeamerika guthrie govan is nowadays guitar idol with inteligence chromatic and jazzy tone plays.. but petrucci is God..he can play metal jazz chromatic blues funk..He is Complete note of Guitarist .
@@muhammadredhopermana992 No he can´t LOL . Come on man, I love John too, he's one of my all time idols . But he struggles when it comes to improvisation. I think there's no way to compare them
Humble Guthrie being Humble
he is too good people
Meu sonho é ver um diálogo entre cacau santos e Govan. Na minha opinião, são os 2 melhores guitarristas da atualidade.
I love Petrucci, he's one of my favorite guitarists. But in the context of an improvisational "duel" against Guthrie it is unfair for him, and he'd probably agree.
Guthrie is the man
🎸😎
They sound like a houndred guitars there! Daaaaaaamn!
Thus and again proving Mike Mangini is one of the best drummers in the solar system.
All is the best.
When Guthrie plays, JP and Tosin stop and listen. Nuff said.
because the guy is very smart
Been a fan of JP eversince, but Guthrie is like a water who can blend with anything
Tosin and Guthrie are the best alive!
I'd like to know what the guy on the right says to Petrucci at 3'.........
Ótimo exemplo de quando o baterista quer aparecer mais que o guitarrista...
All of them are god in this mortal realm.
kkk
It's just epic... king vs king
Mike is slaying in here
I think Guthrie wins - Definitely more relaxed, fluenty and inspired improvisation !
There's nothing worse than playing your heart out in a guitar solo, and the drummer starts to smack the hell out of his bloody drums. (Memo to drummers: when the guitarist is playing a solo, it's HIS solo, not YOURS!
kkk verdade
Haha yeah,fucking crash cymbals all over the place.
Right about now Petrucci is thinking , my god why did I invite Guthrie.
I prefer Petrucci music by far!!!
muito bom
audience is stunned, haha