the8020drummer.com/lessons Complete transcriptions of the beats from the first half coming to my instagram account at 8020drummer for the hashtag #lowmark (LOW for "lesson of the week")
there is one thing i seriously love in life and that is breaking things down to people molecule by molecule to show them that they can do anything their super hero influence can do...this really opened my ears up and answered a lot of questions about how to get"that sound" out of the drums like Mark does....cheers dude!!!
Hey Larry to be honest I'm definitely no expert on Latin music. I studied a little - enough to be extremely modest about my small body of knowledge relative to the depth of Afro-Latin music. Henry Cole is a monster at that stuff. My wheelhouse is to deconstruct time, feel, and improvisation. Definitely up for some webinars as I get gradually more sophisticated and hire some people who actually know what they're doing:P
+The 80/20 Drummer Great teaching, but I think you feel the pulse one 8th-note off on the solo section. There's one bar pause of 7/8 after the previous section, and then it goes back to 7/4. I can hear it both ways, but just by watching how Jason Linder moves and nods to that pulse, I think he intended it to be felt the other way. Great lesson anyway, keep it up!
Hey man, are you totally sure about the resolution point in the solo section? I disagree with where you have counted the "one" in the beginning of the video
Hmmm that's an interesting question. I've been wrong before. I played the entirety of System before I saw an actual lead sheet and realized I'd been hearing "1" in the wrong place. But that's part of the point - is something written in 7/2 or two bars of 7/4? Is a metric modulation notated, or just implied. These details make a difference for the band rehearsing and "counting off", but ultimately are a means-to-an-end of getting people to the same place at the same time. That said, the way I "guessed" the one in the solo section is counting ahead from the section immediately before, the vamp in the implied 7/8 when mark's playing the snare and the floor tom. I counted a bar of 7/4, upon beat 5 of which the bass line of the solo began, then started counting in 7/2 after that bar. It sounds to me like an "asymmetric" phrase to end the previous section and begin the solo section. You could also make an argument that the 7/2 begins immediately after the preceding section, which would mean the phrase is shifted over by a bar of 7/4. Guess I'll have to ask Jason if I ever have the opportunity:)
The 80/20 Drummer I think we have all been wrong before! To me, the music just pauses for a moment and he comes in with the vamp for mark to play over. The stuff mark plays seems to make sense and fall in line with the way that I am thinking of it, but also I don't even know if counting will even help very much for playing over that vamp!
Something in the way you are counting just seems off. It might have to do with the way you're using the metronome at such a high speed then you start in playing the whole thing sounds sloppy but I know you are a great drummer. I may just have a different way of keeping time, I come from a background of playing hand percussion for 10 years.
I think it might sound abit off cos the band members don't actually hit the 7 pulses, they play around them so it's harder to count and make out the 7 points of the bar
there is one thing i seriously love in life and that is breaking things down to people molecule by molecule to show them that they can do anything their super hero influence can do...this really opened my ears up and answered a lot of questions about how to get"that sound" out of the drums like Mark does....cheers dude!!!
Thanks man!
I know I’m late to the party bro, but awesome job explaining this! REALLY useful concepts.
Thank you. Please more MG's lesson
Always:)
cool stuff!!
thanks for this lessons. I am having too much fun with this
Yo this was really helpful, cheers dude
MG's lesssons!!!!!!
Your a great teacher. If u know Latin and some fusion u should do live lessons with live questions and your answers.
Hey Larry to be honest I'm definitely no expert on Latin music. I studied a little - enough to be extremely modest about my small body of knowledge relative to the depth of Afro-Latin music. Henry Cole is a monster at that stuff. My wheelhouse is to deconstruct time, feel, and improvisation. Definitely up for some webinars as I get gradually more sophisticated and hire some people who actually know what they're doing:P
+The 80/20 Drummer Great teaching, but I think you feel the pulse one 8th-note off on the solo section. There's one bar pause of 7/8 after the previous section, and then it goes back to 7/4. I can hear it both ways, but just by watching how Jason Linder moves and nods to that pulse, I think he intended it to be felt the other way. Great lesson anyway, keep it up!
Where did you find the unaccompanied track? Trying to hash this out and I really want to use the track without mark making me feel bad
Hey man, are you totally sure about the resolution point in the solo section? I disagree with where you have counted the "one" in the beginning of the video
Hmmm that's an interesting question. I've been wrong before. I played the entirety of System before I saw an actual lead sheet and realized I'd been hearing "1" in the wrong place. But that's part of the point - is something written in 7/2 or two bars of 7/4? Is a metric modulation notated, or just implied. These details make a difference for the band rehearsing and "counting off", but ultimately are a means-to-an-end of getting people to the same place at the same time. That said, the way I "guessed" the one in the solo section is counting ahead from the section immediately before, the vamp in the implied 7/8 when mark's playing the snare and the floor tom. I counted a bar of 7/4, upon beat 5 of which the bass line of the solo began, then started counting in 7/2 after that bar. It sounds to me like an "asymmetric" phrase to end the previous section and begin the solo section. You could also make an argument that the 7/2 begins immediately after the preceding section, which would mean the phrase is shifted over by a bar of 7/4. Guess I'll have to ask Jason if I ever have the opportunity:)
The 80/20 Drummer
I think we have all been wrong before! To me, the music just pauses for a moment and he comes in with the vamp for mark to play over. The stuff mark plays seems to make sense and fall in line with the way that I am thinking of it, but also I don't even know if counting will even help very much for playing over that vamp!
What is the bottom cymbal on your hi-hat?
16" A crash from the '60s. On the heavy side...
Lol Rule #2
Glad you dug that:P
Something in the way you are counting just seems off. It might have to do with the way you're using the metronome at such a high speed then you start in playing the whole thing sounds sloppy but I know you are a great drummer. I may just have a different way of keeping time, I come from a background of playing hand percussion for 10 years.
I think it might sound abit off cos the band members don't actually hit the 7 pulses, they play around them so it's harder to count and make out the 7 points of the bar