The structuring of this sentence is weird. Am I taking them with me to fight someone else, or am I fighting the one I pick? If taking with, I choose potato. Can basically grow anywhere, be made into bout a million different things, power electric things, list goes on. For one on one fighting, I choose tomato. Unless they're fried and green I think I can take em on.
@maxs.3238 well I'm sorry that they are defined as toxic... "The potato fruit is the part of the potato plant that, after flowering, produces a toxic, green cherry tomato-like fruit"
I feel like the solution to the Tato’s taste issue is similar to the Potato’s taste issue. You gotta cook the damn thing or else you’re eating raw starches which are usually pretty disgusting.
My theory is that cats processed radiation different to other animals on the Fallout world, and didn't mutate like dogs and other animals, cause all the cats we have seen are normal; and then the people ate all of them to avoid interacting with irradiated food, leading to an extinction event, similar to what happened to dodos.
I wonder if the pastor discovering the plants pollinating eachother is a reference to Mendel, another priest, and his pea plant crosbreeding experiments that helped him discover the way genetic inheritence works
It was but the stunning lack of tact with retconning everything in the last two entries took care of that. Potatoes exist in universe, in game, but the writers can't seem to play their own titles.
Mr. House also says that cats are extinct in New Vegas. It’s not too far-fetched that different flora and fauna would exist in different parts of the country. People who have never seen a cat in their lives would probably just assume that cats went extinct.
@@silversquid1814 granted, but the Brotherhood in Fallout 4 is the same group from Fallout 3, where you can get fresh potatoes in Rivet City, kinda hard to think that with the BOS having connections with Rivet City after the main quest, wouldn't be aware of them
@@wolfmantheimpaler The scientists in Rivet City's lab describe their stock of vegetables (including the few potatoes they have) as being fragile and very expensive, which suggests that they aren't all that common. I wouldn't be surprised if all of Rivet City's potatoes are actually lab grown, and by extension incapable of being grown in the Wasteland soil itself. That said, it's possible that sometime between Fallout 3 and 4, Rivet City lost the ability to create, or simply stopped making new potatoes. Perhaps due to the existence of mutant crops that were much easier and cheaper to grow, or the demands of their scientists' new duties at Project Purity, which quickly became full time jobs and forced them to drop all other work. Either way, the fashion in which potatoes are presented in Fallout 3 gives me the impression that they were on the verge of extinction anyway, so something happening in the 10 year gap to finish the job isn't all that unreasonable to me.
according to the vault dweller's notes on the fallout cookbook, they say that the interior is brown but dont actually insult the taste, meaning that it might be that drifters just eat it raw
@@Kris-wo4pjkinda like mole rat it easy to get but it taste horrible except a bandit found out how to make mole rat good maybe someone can find a way to make a tato taste good
@@gameuniverse5973 that's a good point, another parallel could be that certain pufferfish that if prepared incorrectly could kill someone, but if done right it's a delicacy
fr tho this sounds like he just cut it open and ate it - this is america, it might be the post-apocalypse but nobody has tried mashing them or boiling them or anything?
Considering the abundance of cigarettes still being consumed in the Fallout universe this leaves open the tantalizing possibility that Tomacco exists in their world and that Fallout shares a universe with The Simpsons.
The Sole Survivor could easily tell us how it tasted compared to the real thing. Shame that they didn't even want to mention that at all. In general too, there are some dialogues that I wish I could answer with "I'm from when times were normal lol"
@@Mkrause762 base game was so trash but the system actually works for Far Harbor and Nuka World. Seems like they were clueless at first but made up with the DLCs
Imagine internet is a thing and you try to talk to message someone from the otherside of the world asking how things are. And theyre like "Yeah, everythings fine mate, you got hit by the nukes not us"
@@donovanfox7752 as funny as that scenario would be even if Europe wasn't nuked into oblivion they would have gotten the nasty effects of the nuclear winter and the FEV was launched into the jet stream by a nuke hitting the testing facility and this is the in universe reason behind all the mutated wildlife. for all we know Europe is just a massive forest filled with ghost cities and mutated wildlife.
I would like to remind current humanity that mankind has developed on this planet for millions of years. In these millions of years, man has evolved; He tamed fire, learned to cultivate, hunt animals, find drinking water, build better homes, dominate nature, invented and improved the sciences, etc, etc..... without internet, without smartphones, without PCs, without having to force to communicate something to someone millions of kilometers away. yet, man changes but war.... war never changes
It probably tasted bad because the guy who found the tato decided to shove it in his mouth raw expecting it to taste good, it took the spanish decades to figure out how to make potatoes edible in real life. Also the soil condition in a fallout scenario aren't exactly ideal, maybe in better soil the tato could be an infinite source of pre-ketchuped fries
Taste is a very subjective and arguably cultural thing. There is a tribe in subsaharian Africa that eats one insect(can't remember which one,some kind of cricket) as a delicacy, but it apparently tastes like rotten fish. The fact is, they have no idea how rotten fish tastes, so they don't think it's a bad taste. Blue cheese is disgusting to many cultures, some tribes in papua new guinea think cured meat is revolting..
@@Cobalt_Spartan Anything that is safely edible can be good when prepared properly. Either they just need to re-domesticate it, breeding it to taste better, or they need to experiment with new cooking methods. Maybe try stewing it? Beef stew can have both potatoes and tomatoes, so this thing might be great.
@@dominicesquivel3901wtf is a Kola? I’m gonna assume you mean a Koala, in which case koalas can’t be extinct in America because they never actually inhabited America.
@@sanguillotine "locally extinct" is still dubious. If pollinators like bees are dead, so are many plants. If pollinators exist, it won't take long to repopulate the plants.
Really appreciate this, I wasn't sure if tato was pronounced like the tato in potato or the tato in tomato, turns out tato is pronounced like tato! So cool
you can graft tomato and potato plants, they are both in the same family. the nightshade(a deadly poisonous family) family also included eggplants and nightshade weeds
We did that in a college horticulture class. It's more of a joke than anything, but you learn some skills in doing it. And at least in those days the plants got a lot of attention, but they didn't ever do very well. May be different now.
One of my favourite parts of the fallout series is the little notes and backstory as well as connections and references to the other games. Also I can’t believe the common tato has such a deep backstory
Potatoes do have poisonous fruits that look like tomatoes, they are both nightshade plants. I'm guessing it's less of a cross and just a mutated potato fruit
The tomato would similar to the fruit of the potato plant. Not a potato though. Bethesda really just goes with what sounds good in the moment, without really thinking about it. I hope the successor of the fallout tv show makes realize their games could use actual writers.
"easy to grow and keeps you from starving" lmao trueeee, every time I come back to sanctuary I harvest a massive field of tatos and have like multiple hundreds of them and just spam chow them in danger 😂👍
I just want to note that potatoes do exist in fallout, you can get them in Fallout New Vegas to make Cook cook's stew. As a gardener with a little over a decade gardening under her belt, I can tell you that the Tato's canon origin is highly unlikely. Plants do not typically hybridize the way the tato is described as doing. If they did, its likely the resulting seeds wouldn't grow after a couple of generations. Think of a horse and a donkey making a sterile mule. What CAN happen though is something called "grafting". In which two very different plants are combined via cutting a branch off one, usually when its young, and attaching it to another. This could be the entire plant stem or just a bud (the latter in the case of fruit trees). Grafted plants are stronger, produce larger fruit and have more disease resistance. They also share any poisons or medicinal substances between them, so for example if you grafted a tomato and a tobacco, both members of the nightshade family, you would get tomatoes containing nicotine. If you did it with a wild member of the nightshade family called Jimsonweed, you would make tomatoes that are poisonous. What's far more likely to have happened is the mutation of a grafted tomato/potato plant that merged the two, and then selected against underground tubers and instead shifted all its starch into the tomato. This is because during a nuclear winter, if it gets too cold the cells of a plant could rupture and burst, the way it does when a human gets frostbite. When it thawed, these plants would be extremely vulnerable to rotting. Any plant with a very starchy root is generally a target for root rot and its associated pests. Insects exist in part to consume dead things and turn them into things a living thing can eat. This tendency towards root rot is part of why i mix a lot of sand into the soil when growing plants with fleshy roots.
@@aliwamboldt3661 Depends on if there's a dance floor. XP I've been weird my whole life, I've stopped caring what people think. Attempting to explain away my weirdness has only ever gotten me in trouble.
This is a fantastic comment, I read the whole thing. I love learning random stuff, and this is very cool. Ignore that guy insulting you, you don't deserve that
@@aliwamboldt3661 can't believe there's a guy talking nerd stuff in the comment section of a fallout lore short about mutant crossbreed potatomatoes, can't believe this guy is talking about the topic of the video, what kinda weirdo would just enjoy talking about things he knows about, it's a crazy world we live in friend where people like you seem to never have grown up from high school
But potatoes aren't extinct. You can get fresh potatoes in both Fallout 3 and Fallout New Vegas; in the latter, they're even an ingredient for one of the most nourishing craftable foods in the game.
@@CyrusLagomwouldn't be surprised. Cats on the West Coast would be super rare or locally extinct while East Coast would have that applied to potatoes. Especially since outside of Rivet City, where else would one find a completely normal potato and not some mutated crop?
And? Mr. House is certain Cats are extinct, but the east coast has them. Nothing says different places of the world have different things populating it, be it flora or fauna.
@Matthew Simon things is plant and creature migrate with time, and espacually with human settlement, migration and tradings wich is confirmed to be in fallout since fallout 3 and new vegas but also fallout 4 and the brotherhood or some institute actor While we never see any cat in any fallout except 76...wich make no sense because if there would be one instance where it would be harder to see prewar creature untouched is directly after the bomb fell, after 200 year the creature adapted mostly and breed enough to not be on the verge of extinctions Its rather unlikely that tomatoe and potatoe are unchanged, but that in one place they combined and the plant that made it combined it with disappear and just across the rocky it wouldn't ?
@@matthewsimon6170 well he had the limited data to go off on he had seen that most animals gone extinct so he thought it was universal for the entire country.
@@sotch2271 animals we humans have a need for and breed Or animals That can either live of the land or hunt animals smaller or bigger with ease But for cats both rat and bird populations have dwindled or increased in physical size ,rendering food near nonexistent so they went extinct. Exempt for the cats or other animals that vault tech preserved.
I’d always known in the back of my mind that the thing in the Black Garden was a stump, and always suspected The Garden and the Black Garden could be the same thing, but having it pointed out like that was downright mind-blowing!
I'm surprised that Pastor didn't die when trying a Tato for the first time lol. The nightshade family which potatoes and tomatoes are a part of is pretty dang deadly. Potatoes can produce berries that are poisonous too. So they really lucked out there :)
What I find strange is that a cross between a potato and tomato plant already exists. Basically the tomatoes use the potatoes as their new root system and both just vibe.
I always wondered what the damned things were every time I get Im sitting there looking at them trying to figure it out always changing between tomato and potato
Fallout 76 writers: lol ketchup potato. Anyone who's ever grown a plant: You know potatoes are a root vegetable and tomatoes are a fruit/flower, right? And ketchup has vinegar? This is not how plants work.
In a video game where people survive by laying underneath moldy wood/rusted metal roofs with hole covered walls, on dirty mattresses on the dirt floor; I doubt realism is a major priority lol
Tatos would actually work in fallout to help against hunger in a wasteland like fallout... But in going to need something that doesn't taste like butt to go with it....
Potatoes and tomatoes are both nightshades, and can actually hybridize. The thing is, potatoes already grow "tomatoes" if you leave the plants growing long enough, but they're poisonous because they're filled with Solanine
To be honest, Tatos make sense because Potatoes and Tomatoes are related. Issue with Potatoes we eat the root not the fruit, but Tomatoes we eat the fruit not the root. Reason for this is Tomatoes and Potatoes are in the Nightshade family, which is renown for being toxic. Potato fruit is toxic so can not be eaten, but the roots can be. Tomatoes are a rare exception in the Nightshade family similar to Eggplants in which we can eat the fruit.
Tatos are PRE-WAR. In the Fallout TV show, vault 33 is said to be growing tatos. This couldn't be possible if the tato was only post-war since the vault wouldn't be growing mutant plants from outside the vault.
I love the idea that the fruit and plants in the game are just combos of two fruits in real life. Razor grain is… some kind of grain like wheat and any grass maybe. Mutfute looks like an apple that’s purple and lumpy like grapes or plums. The tato of corse. And tarberries are like cranberries mixed with some kind of Lilly pad or swamp plant
There’s probably at least one hardware store somewhere in the country that has a bunch of crop plants in their little packets untouched by radiation. So once humanity picked up the pieces of civilization normal non mutated plants will come back. Oh as well as that bunker that has a specimen of every plant and animal in Greenland
tomato, tato, potato in a fight. who you taking?
potato, of course. the rest will be squished instantly.
Your not wrong
A tato has the illusion of a squishy tomato but actually has the toughness of a potato within. In addition, it dishes out radiation damage.
The structuring of this sentence is weird. Am I taking them with me to fight someone else, or am I fighting the one I pick? If taking with, I choose potato. Can basically grow anywhere, be made into bout a million different things, power electric things, list goes on. For one on one fighting, I choose tomato. Unless they're fried and green I think I can take em on.
Potato, 100%. It is clearly the best weapon. The other two would just turn to mush if you had to use them in a fight.
There is a real tomato potato hybrid called the Pomato, but the potatoes are actually the roots instead of combining with the fruit.
Potato and tomato are both nightshades and a potato plant can actually grow tomato like fruit that are highly dangerous.
The Pomato isn't a hybrid.They are produced by grafting the stem of a tomato to the rootstock of a potato.
@@exogator a bit alarmist. You need quite a few potato berries to feel serious effects. Not pleasant but not exactly 'highly dangerous' either.
Tatos confirmed for reality in the future?
@maxs.3238 well I'm sorry that they are defined as toxic... "The potato fruit is the part of the potato plant that, after flowering, produces a toxic, green cherry tomato-like fruit"
I feel like the solution to the Tato’s taste issue is similar to the Potato’s taste issue. You gotta cook the damn thing or else you’re eating raw starches which are usually pretty disgusting.
Yeah
a raw potato is also very bad for your health xD
@@goodmusic4673no its not, the worst it can do is cause diarrhea. other than that its safe to eat
@@NikoKuehne in a survival situation diarrhea will kill you, so idk about "safe"
@@_Macho_Man_I can’t imagine dying from diarrhea that is such a mf L way to go
Cats are gone in the west, Tomatoes and Potatoes are gone from the east.
Not sure who got it worst
The east got it worse. They have tatos.
At least the west isn't stuck with some half cat abomination
@@DarkPsychoMessiah I say east, i love potatoes and tomatoes
My theory is that cats processed radiation different to other animals on the Fallout world, and didn't mutate like dogs and other animals, cause all the cats we have seen are normal; and then the people ate all of them to avoid interacting with irradiated food, leading to an extinction event, similar to what happened to dodos.
@@alexeigoldschmith u could be right ig its better than them being synths 🤷♂️
I wonder if the pastor discovering the plants pollinating eachother is a reference to Mendel, another priest, and his pea plant crosbreeding experiments that helped him discover the way genetic inheritence works
Just what I was thinking ! :D
I always thought tato was just Wasteland slang for Tomato
Me too 😂
It was but the stunning lack of tact with retconning everything in the last two entries took care of that. Potatoes exist in universe, in game, but the writers can't seem to play their own titles.
Yeah same 😂
@@ihave_noidea wait so they were originally just tomatoes until F4 retconned?
It just works @@jcshark7023
My favorite fallout lore, stuff that makes no sense while also making sense
Commonwealth BOS Scribe: Potatoes and tomatoes are extinct plants.
Me getting fresh potatoes in New Vegas: Uhhhh....yeah....
Mr. House also says that cats are extinct in New Vegas.
It’s not too far-fetched that different flora and fauna would exist in different parts of the country. People who have never seen a cat in their lives would probably just assume that cats went extinct.
Locally extinct apparently
@@silversquid1814 granted, but the Brotherhood in Fallout 4 is the same group from Fallout 3, where you can get fresh potatoes in Rivet City, kinda hard to think that with the BOS having connections with Rivet City after the main quest, wouldn't be aware of them
some bad stuff happened to the potatoes during the time skip
@@wolfmantheimpaler The scientists in Rivet City's lab describe their stock of vegetables (including the few potatoes they have) as being fragile and very expensive, which suggests that they aren't all that common. I wouldn't be surprised if all of Rivet City's potatoes are actually lab grown, and by extension incapable of being grown in the Wasteland soil itself. That said, it's possible that sometime between Fallout 3 and 4, Rivet City lost the ability to create, or simply stopped making new potatoes. Perhaps due to the existence of mutant crops that were much easier and cheaper to grow, or the demands of their scientists' new duties at Project Purity, which quickly became full time jobs and forced them to drop all other work.
Either way, the fashion in which potatoes are presented in Fallout 3 gives me the impression that they were on the verge of extinction anyway, so something happening in the 10 year gap to finish the job isn't all that unreasonable to me.
Just what i like in food, "keeps you alive"
according to the vault dweller's notes on the fallout cookbook, they say that the interior is brown but dont actually insult the taste, meaning that it might be that drifters just eat it raw
Which checks out. I could see comparing a raw mostly-wild potato to cardboard.
at the Responders in 76, they mention that the tato's there taste great, with barely any rads as well
@@krazyfan1489 I mean its growing in a much better place there so
I was thinking the same. Like yeah if you have only ever had raw potatoes you would think they were awful. Has the tato been cooked yet?
So it has to be due to the environment and how you prepare the Tatos.
Love how it starts with "tomatoes/potatoes exist in fallout" and then the BoS says "extincted plants"
Fries that come with ketchup right off the plant. Greatest thing the wasteland brought.
It's ketchup flavored cardboard according to all the reports. Salt exists still yet apparently that doesn't help either.
@@Kris-wo4pj i wondered what would happen i i put meth on it?
@@Kris-wo4pjkinda like mole rat it easy to get but it taste horrible except a bandit found out how to make mole rat good maybe someone can find a way to make a tato taste good
@@ricardoamaris9442back to rehab with you
@@gameuniverse5973 that's a good point, another parallel could be that certain pufferfish that if prepared incorrectly could kill someone, but if done right it's a delicacy
Babe wake up, potato/tomato lore just dropped
You can boil em, mash em, stick em in a stew
fr tho this sounds like he just cut it open and ate it - this is america, it might be the post-apocalypse but nobody has tried mashing them or boiling them or anything?
And eat em
Damn nobody really got the reference huh
@@balashibuyeeter2704 I forgot what the reference is, but damn it if I didn't sing this comment
@@bigbalticbox lord of the rings: the two towers. Sam says this while talking to gollum about potatoes
I'd like to imagine that a deep fried tato would taste like French fries and ketchup.
Considering the abundance of cigarettes still being consumed in the Fallout universe this leaves open the tantalizing possibility that Tomacco exists in their world and that Fallout shares a universe with The Simpsons.
nah, it's all one plant, the tommacto
Sneed
Well, tobacco is a nightshade.
@@shizukaryujoukai2465 so are tomatoes and potatoes.
@@irishrelief6293 and eggplant
Old fallout games: Dark Dark World with violence
Fallout 76: Tato…
The Sole Survivor could easily tell us how it tasted compared to the real thing. Shame that they didn't even want to mention that at all. In general too, there are some dialogues that I wish I could answer with "I'm from when times were normal lol"
My all time favorite line is "Hey Dumbass, that's not how baseball is played"
@@ConwayFreelanceDetective Mine's "The fuck's a resume?"
Fallout 4 dialogue is so awful I guarantee Bethesda never even thought of it
@@Mkrause762 base game was so trash but the system actually works for Far Harbor and Nuka World. Seems like they were clueless at first but made up with the DLCs
Fallout 76 could have solved this now since all of the Player Characters and 90% of the NPCs are pre-war inhabitants
"Holy Moses you're right! It does taste like Grandma.. I'll take a bushel, or a pack, whatever just give em to me"
The sad thing about being in a post apocalyptic world without internet is you can’t ask someone from across the country if something still exists
Imagine internet is a thing and you try to talk to message someone from the otherside of the world asking how things are. And theyre like "Yeah, everythings fine mate, you got hit by the nukes not us"
@@donovanfox7752 as funny as that scenario would be even if Europe wasn't nuked into oblivion they would have gotten the nasty effects of the nuclear winter and the FEV was launched into the jet stream by a nuke hitting the testing facility and this is the in universe reason behind all the mutated wildlife.
for all we know Europe is just a massive forest filled with ghost cities and mutated wildlife.
I would like to remind current humanity that mankind has developed on this planet for millions of years. In these millions of years, man has evolved;
He tamed fire, learned to cultivate, hunt animals, find drinking water, build better homes, dominate nature, invented and improved the sciences, etc, etc..... without internet, without smartphones, without PCs, without having to force to communicate something to someone millions of kilometers away. yet, man changes but war.... war never changes
@@frankvanga310that’s crazy bro but who asked
Previous to the internet, phones, or telegram, the fastest way to communicate was courrier pigeon. No mutated pigeons in the Fallout universe?
To be fair, tatos would probably attract British people like flies.
She’s Irish but maybe that’s why Cait migrated to the Commonwealth.
Mudcrab 'n' tato
Why is potato to them but not tomato? Would they pronounce it tah-toes?
In Ireland (the place crisps orginated) we have Tayto crisps
It probably tastes bad because if the middle part is like a potato it's probably poisonous unless you cook it
I don't think I could be hurt more by the concept that if you combined a tomato and potato that it wouldn't be delicious if cooked.
It probably tasted bad because the guy who found the tato decided to shove it in his mouth raw expecting it to taste good, it took the spanish decades to figure out how to make potatoes edible in real life. Also the soil condition in a fallout scenario aren't exactly ideal, maybe in better soil the tato could be an infinite source of pre-ketchuped fries
@@wsads420 but it doesnt taste like potatoes, so frying them and making fries would basicly be eating a chunk of ketchup.
Taste is a very subjective and arguably cultural thing. There is a tribe in subsaharian Africa that eats one insect(can't remember which one,some kind of cricket) as a delicacy, but it apparently tastes like rotten fish. The fact is, they have no idea how rotten fish tastes, so they don't think it's a bad taste. Blue cheese is disgusting to many cultures, some tribes in papua new guinea think cured meat is revolting..
@@wsads420I’m officially accepting “pre-ketchupped fries” as canon.
I feel like there is some way that the institutes bio division could split the DNA and revert the tato to get tomatoes and potatoes back
I feel bad planting this alot in my settlements
same...
Hey, theyre alive xD kinda, their standards of living arent terrific
@@austinclements8010 I still want them to be comfortable and not eat ketchup flavored cardboard
@@Cobalt_Spartan
Anything that is safely edible can be good when prepared properly. Either they just need to re-domesticate it, breeding it to taste better, or they need to experiment with new cooking methods. Maybe try stewing it? Beef stew can have both potatoes and tomatoes, so this thing might be great.
@@Alizudowhat if someone made a mod that both allows you to craft foods from plays but also make hybrid plays as well
You can find that out by talking with farmers in the settlements asking them the same question.
"Now extinct plant"
"Tomatoes and potatoes are present in the fallout world and you can find some"
I guess he meant locally extinct.
@@CyrusLagom”locally extinct” That’s like saying that Kola’s are locally extinct in North America.
@@dominicesquivel3901wtf is a Kola? I’m gonna assume you mean a Koala, in which case koalas can’t be extinct in America because they never actually inhabited America.
@@sanguillotine "locally extinct" is still dubious. If pollinators like bees are dead, so are many plants. If pollinators exist, it won't take long to repopulate the plants.
@@KevinJDildonik what does that have to do with what I said???
Really appreciate this, I wasn't sure if tato was pronounced like the tato in potato or the tato in tomato, turns out tato is pronounced like tato! So cool
you can graft tomato and potato plants, they are both in the same family. the nightshade(a deadly poisonous family) family also included eggplants and nightshade weeds
We did that in a college horticulture class. It's more of a joke than anything, but you learn some skills in doing it. And at least in those days the plants got a lot of attention, but they didn't ever do very well. May be different now.
also same genus Solanum
One of my favourite parts of the fallout series is the little notes and backstory as well as connections and references to the other games. Also I can’t believe the common tato has such a deep backstory
People like to say "Tomato, potato" as a joke about the old "tomato, tomato" saying
I just say Tato 🗿
I bet they're regretting that joke now. 💀
To be fair, the statement "eh, tatos" sounds pretty accurate to something I can imagine someone in fallout saying in a similar situation
I say "Tato Tado, T-60 T-45, they're all the same thing "
There’s no way a cross breed between two of the best plants on earth would taste bad.
Potatoes do have poisonous fruits that look like tomatoes, they are both nightshade plants. I'm guessing it's less of a cross and just a mutated potato fruit
I told my family once that tomatoes were a nightshade and they told me nightshade isn't real. They said it's a skyrim plant.
@@Sleeper-Work your family is retarded
@@Sleeper-Work american?
Yeah, Virginia. Irish?
@@Sleeper-Work far enough back in the family tree yes
im aussie
This was honestly a really good episode guys, keep it up.
Thank you for this. I was wondering why all this time something that looks lake a tomato is called a "tato".
Fun fact, they can sporadically hybridize. They are both nightshades, and have been cultivated for long.
They are actually related to each other in the plant kingdom... so its feasible
Yeah, but it makes little sense that the fruit of the plant has the consistency of a root.
The tomato would similar to the fruit of the potato plant. Not a potato though.
Bethesda really just goes with what sounds good in the moment, without really thinking about it. I hope the successor of the fallout tv show makes realize their games could use actual writers.
Answering the real questions that keep me up at night
I always just assumed they were Tomatoes, that is actually really cool.
"easy to grow and keeps you from starving"
lmao trueeee, every time I come back to sanctuary I harvest a massive field of tatos and have like multiple hundreds of them and just spam chow them in danger 😂👍
I just want to note that potatoes do exist in fallout, you can get them in Fallout New Vegas to make Cook cook's stew.
As a gardener with a little over a decade gardening under her belt, I can tell you that the Tato's canon origin is highly unlikely. Plants do not typically hybridize the way the tato is described as doing. If they did, its likely the resulting seeds wouldn't grow after a couple of generations. Think of a horse and a donkey making a sterile mule.
What CAN happen though is something called "grafting". In which two very different plants are combined via cutting a branch off one, usually when its young, and attaching it to another. This could be the entire plant stem or just a bud (the latter in the case of fruit trees).
Grafted plants are stronger, produce larger fruit and have more disease resistance. They also share any poisons or medicinal substances between them, so for example if you grafted a tomato and a tobacco, both members of the nightshade family, you would get tomatoes containing nicotine. If you did it with a wild member of the nightshade family called Jimsonweed, you would make tomatoes that are poisonous.
What's far more likely to have happened is the mutation of a grafted tomato/potato plant that merged the two, and then selected against underground tubers and instead shifted all its starch into the tomato. This is because during a nuclear winter, if it gets too cold the cells of a plant could rupture and burst, the way it does when a human gets frostbite. When it thawed, these plants would be extremely vulnerable to rotting. Any plant with a very starchy root is generally a target for root rot and its associated pests. Insects exist in part to consume dead things and turn them into things a living thing can eat. This tendency towards root rot is part of why i mix a lot of sand into the soil when growing plants with fleshy roots.
I bet you're a hit at parties 😐
@@aliwamboldt3661 Depends on if there's a dance floor. XP I've been weird my whole life, I've stopped caring what people think. Attempting to explain away my weirdness has only ever gotten me in trouble.
@Curiosity uhuh, but guess who gets asked when someone's houseplant starts to die? or something gets into their garden? yours truly.
This is a fantastic comment, I read the whole thing. I love learning random stuff, and this is very cool. Ignore that guy insulting you, you don't deserve that
@@aliwamboldt3661 can't believe there's a guy talking nerd stuff in the comment section of a fallout lore short about mutant crossbreed potatomatoes, can't believe this guy is talking about the topic of the video, what kinda weirdo would just enjoy talking about things he knows about, it's a crazy world we live in friend where people like you seem to never have grown up from high school
>two extinct plants
>potato and tomato
>FNV
>fresh potato
But potatoes aren't extinct. You can get fresh potatoes in both Fallout 3 and Fallout New Vegas; in the latter, they're even an ingredient for one of the most nourishing craftable foods in the game.
Locally extinct, probably.
God it’s almost like bethsda are hack frauds that can’t even keep their shit together in the franchise they own.
Hence the comment about the scribe being "not so studious". Someone who did their homework would know better.
@@CyrusLagomwouldn't be surprised. Cats on the West Coast would be super rare or locally extinct while East Coast would have that applied to potatoes. Especially since outside of Rivet City, where else would one find a completely normal potato and not some mutated crop?
This is the lore i didnt knew i needed in my life
Potato’s still exists in both fallout 3 and new Vegas
You can even find fresh one in Mojave wasteland
And? Mr. House is certain Cats are extinct, but the east coast has them. Nothing says different places of the world have different things populating it, be it flora or fauna.
@Matthew Simon things is plant and creature migrate with time, and espacually with human settlement, migration and tradings wich is confirmed to be in fallout since fallout 3 and new vegas but also fallout 4 and the brotherhood or some institute actor
While we never see any cat in any fallout except 76...wich make no sense because if there would be one instance where it would be harder to see prewar creature untouched is directly after the bomb fell, after 200 year the creature adapted mostly and breed enough to not be on the verge of extinctions
Its rather unlikely that tomatoe and potatoe are unchanged, but that in one place they combined and the plant that made it combined it with disappear and just across the rocky it wouldn't ?
@@matthewsimon6170 well he had the limited data to go off on he had seen that most animals gone extinct so he thought it was universal for the entire country.
@Lilythecat gamez&vids but dogs are still there unchanged, cows are still there as brahmin , i see why but it doesnt really add up or so i think
@@sotch2271 animals we humans have a need for and breed
Or animals That can either live of the land or hunt animals smaller or bigger with ease
But for cats both rat and bird populations have dwindled or increased in physical size ,rendering food near nonexistent so they went extinct.
Exempt for the cats or other animals that vault tech preserved.
The Tato is honestly.Probably my most favorite fruit/vegetable.Ever created by a person.
Now we're asking the important lore questions.
I’d always known in the back of my mind that the thing in the Black Garden was a stump, and always suspected The Garden and the Black Garden could be the same thing, but having it pointed out like that was downright mind-blowing!
I'm surprised that Pastor didn't die when trying a Tato for the first time lol. The nightshade family which potatoes and tomatoes are a part of is pretty dang deadly. Potatoes can produce berries that are poisonous too. So they really lucked out there :)
While all nightshade plants contain poisonous aspects, Deadly Nightshade, more commonly known as Belladonna, is the killer.
Goji Berries can be bred with Tomatoes to make something similar to Tatos but it will take generations of breeding
What I find strange is that a cross between a potato and tomato plant already exists. Basically the tomatoes use the potatoes as their new root system and both just vibe.
Love how deep this game is its like a documentary
I have a funny feeling they look, feel, and probably smell like a tomacco from The Simpsons, despite being potato
Well, both plants exist in the nightshade family; you can actually graft a tomatoe plant to a potatoe plant and have one plant produce BOTH
I believe potatoes are mentioned once in fallout 4, in a quest where you help out Finch Farm.
I always wondered what the damned things were every time I get Im sitting there looking at them trying to figure it out always changing between tomato and potato
Fallout 76 writers: lol ketchup potato.
Anyone who's ever grown a plant: You know potatoes are a root vegetable and tomatoes are a fruit/flower, right? And ketchup has vinegar? This is not how plants work.
But radiation can make you immortal
In a video game where people survive by laying underneath moldy wood/rusted metal roofs with hole covered walls, on dirty mattresses on the dirt floor; I doubt realism is a major priority lol
@@PauloHernandezXD Natural selection.
Only the surivors who were able to survive got to pass their genes.
I’d love to see a story and Fallout, where a man dedicates his whole life to making good tasting tatos
Tatos would actually work in fallout to help against hunger in a wasteland like fallout... But in going to need something that doesn't taste like butt to go with it....
You can't be picky in a wasteland
You would think a video game series which has a core focus on vaults would have a seed vault with nearly every plant on earth just like in real life
"What's a tato? Ah, short for potato."
I remember the first time running into a tato and was like “oh just a bug/typo I guess idk” lol had no idea there was lore behind it
This is why the NCR must survive.
*They can grow potatoes.*
I doubt the mighty potato would have gone extinct. I reckon high in some rocky cliffs, the humble potato lives on.
Ketchup and French fries together like the pb and j already mixed
Wastelanders eating the Tato raw instead of blanching it in distilled water and frying it in oil like a normal Vault Dweller
Fallout lore: sad story’s about the end of man kind
Also fallout lore: potato plus tomato equal tato!
This if cooked right could be an absolute banger.
What matters is as long as you can boil 'em, mash 'em, and stick 'em in a stew.
Now I feel bad for planting entire fields of exclusively tatos in several settlements
Wow, I’ll never look at Tatos the same way again
this video has made my day
I mean such a hybridization could *maybe* happen as both are members of the nightshade family
Potatoes and tomatoes are both nightshades, and can actually hybridize. The thing is, potatoes already grow "tomatoes" if you leave the plants growing long enough, but they're poisonous because they're filled with Solanine
Ah yes, the stem of a plant magically makes it's way into the flower of it.
You know the wasteland is harsh when POTATOS can't grow
Probably can make some kick-ass french fries out of those
Only plant that doesnt take up the entire farm plot and allows me to plant like 4 like carrots and corn
Just imagine making French fries from them
To be honest, Tatos make sense because Potatoes and Tomatoes are related. Issue with Potatoes we eat the root not the fruit, but Tomatoes we eat the fruit not the root. Reason for this is Tomatoes and Potatoes are in the Nightshade family, which is renown for being toxic. Potato fruit is toxic so can not be eaten, but the roots can be. Tomatoes are a rare exception in the Nightshade family similar to Eggplants in which we can eat the fruit.
If I ever end up in a post-apocalyptic world and I can’t have loaded potatoes I will literally un-alive myself
Brotherhood scribe: "why do you eat these?"
Settler: "I just think they're neat"
Tatos are PRE-WAR. In the Fallout TV show, vault 33 is said to be growing tatos. This couldn't be possible if the tato was only post-war since the vault wouldn't be growing mutant plants from outside the vault.
I love the idea that the fruit and plants in the game are just combos of two fruits in real life. Razor grain is… some kind of grain like wheat and any grass maybe. Mutfute looks like an apple that’s purple and lumpy like grapes or plums. The tato of corse. And tarberries are like cranberries mixed with some kind of Lilly pad or swamp plant
"Ketchup flavored cardboard" used to be a description of Domino's Pizza.
And here I thought it was just short for tomato
I need more fallout tato knowledge. Are they worth grilling? Roasting? Thrown in a stew?
There’s probably at least one hardware store somewhere in the country that has a bunch of crop plants in their little packets untouched by radiation. So once humanity picked up the pieces of civilization normal non mutated plants will come back. Oh as well as that bunker that has a specimen of every plant and animal in Greenland
You had me at Ketchup flavored cardboard. When do we start making these lol.
Should taste like french fries when deep fried
You know it's bad when even the potatoes are like fk that we not growing in these conditions 😂
Lisa: Tommacco thats pretty clever dad for a product thats evil and deadly
I had always thought it was just a tomato
"So when the mother Tomato and father Potato loved each other very much.."
Wasteland super food. As long as we don't suffer a blight or get attacked, we're just peachy.
They are both nightshades, so it makes sense that they could hybridize.
Don't plant your cucumbers next to cantaloupes.
Imagine trying to make fries out of these
I just can't wrap my head around how a tomato-potato wouldn't treat good.
Tatos appear in vault implying they were pre war