until yesterday I didn't know this young soprano. yesterday I went Met opera to see die meistersinger von nurnberg, and there she sings Eva. instantly I became her fan tow words ' AAAAAAAAAAAAmazing voice "
This is a calibre long thought gone from opera! Amazingly talented... but such a warm personality shines through, alongside those gleaming tones! Indeed the timbre of great Straussian/Wagnerian voices of lore... exciting times. I pray she manages this amazing voice well because it could transport as well as pioneer!
Came here after the NYTimes article. Yes, this is the real thing. It's not 100% technique and noise without any care for the sound that's coming out like 99.9% of sopranos today. The sound is beautiful, focused, and cuts through you like a knife. Thrilling actually.
Unfortunately, the unknowing public equate a big voice with a great voice! She still has a lot of improving to do, especially with her Diction! It is terrible! High Notes are well placed and pretty good, though! But she needs to seriously work on that crackling sounding and overly forced vibrato in her middle range. I am suprised she doesn't have a handle in that middle voice, when the higher vocal range is usually the most difficult to control! She may yet have a career, especially due to her affiliation with the Met! Best Wishes!
@shirley mckinney I don’t think the public knows what a big voice really is. For example, both Kaufmann and Florez are extremely popular, but they have tiny, constricted voices.
I was there that evening. She looked so unassuming compared to a lot of the huge gowns and waving arms of the other singers, but her voice just blew everyone away, it was pretty incredible!
@@dr-tsea good ear you have! Yes the voice is big, but the tone color and the lack of the dramatic "steel" is evident but perhaps that will come in time.
She has every attribute a Dramatic Soprano needs. The challenge that comes with that is the talent of understanding the scale of what you have. What is intimate vs what is openly operatic? Even in Wagner this is where the art is. To hear her sing Lieder ist something special. She sheds the onion leaves of volume and too much compression. This is the greatest challenge a singer ever faces. This example is at the birth of her career. One can hope that her sense of self continues to reveal itself. If she goes that route, I believe it would be next to impossible to stop her. At this point in a career to have such a voice is luxury and she has since received awards. But the rewards of a career in this crazy business come to not only those who receive God's largess in native talent, but goes to those obsessed enough to ferret out every last drop of intimacy and truth. The more she achieves that the more will laurels be laid at her feet where ever she walks. I will keep her in my prayers. Of the new singers coming up, and I have yet to hear her live, she is very promising, talented and a beautiful woman.
@@vincec8218 czcams.com/video/tffHv59oqug/video.html I attach a linke to Freni to give a shining example of how a singer of this role should aspire to compete Kasondra is a young singer and I wish her well. She is an aspiring singer. Opera is about the voice in the most particular of ways, and that is not just standing and singing or being beautiful. Every form of music must find a way to the heart. Thanks for the lead.
Lise Davidsen & Saioa Hernandez have totally different repertoire the voices speak for themselves. The next 10 years will be very interesting for these two ladies. Very promising voices indeed. Thank you for posting Arnuald Bourbon Amaral 🙏🙏💙
So fun to see and hear this new phenom. She is such a natural singer at such a young age! Extremely exciting! I hope to hear her in person in the next little while. She's already an amazing artist. I imagine she'll be even better. No reason to compare her to anyone in the past. She is her own person and is at the beginning. Best luck to her!
When people start comparing your soprano voice to the great Varnay and the legendary Flagstad, there's a whole lot more going on than just "The next best new singer." Georg Solti once commented: "I once heard 30 sopranos audition for a part in a Mozart Opera; none of their voices moved me... until I heard Kiri (te Kanawa) sing! Here was something very special; a one in a million voice!" The very same thing is happening here! Yes, Lise is very young, but she already has that magnificent "buttery" fullness of tone, top notes to DIE for (3:19), and, YES, her vibrato comes in a few seconds after the note begins - Varnay style - just the way I like it! Take note people: you'll be hearing this very remarkable voice - in all the major Wagner & Strauss soprano roles - for a very long time to come; just think what this Norwegian wonder will do with Isolde... and Elektra... and Brunhilde?!! PLEASE support Lise's career and buy her debut album on Decca (which includes "Dich teure Halle"); mine is already on the way... we live in very privileged times. MD
I can agree that this is a very fine developing dramatic soprano, who gives us all great hope that all is not lost - yet. However, it's a disfavor to compare her to Flagstad. Just in this aria, I hear that her articulation and use of consonants is to a great degree modelled on Nilsson, and Swedish though I may be, I think she should toss those recordings in the trash where they belong and pay more attention to the vocal style and interpretation of her great compatriot. And of course, you can not compare anyone to Flagstad, ever!
Oh, I very much beg to differ! Firstly, it is NOT a disfavor to compare Davisen to Flagstad (no one, not even Flagstad, is untouchable; please remember that she agreed to have Elisabeth Schwarzkopf sing ALL her high notes - quite deceptively! - in her recording of Tristan und Isolde with Furtwängler), but the very highest of sincere compliments. And secondly, "toss Nilsson's recordings in the trash where they belong???" I'm not sure what planet you're from but THAT is a disfavorable remark for the ages! There is not a single opera lover, opera critic, musicologist, opera conductor or Wagner soprano, living or deceased, that doesn't/didn't rate Birgit Nilsson at the very HIGHEST LEVEL of her profession... but we should, of course, take your word for her worthiness? In retrospect, it might just be egregious to compare Davidsen to Flagstad: Nilsson was far and away the better singer, the better stage actress, utterly incomparable and therefore a more worthy predecessor. I stand corrected.
@@gardenphoto ALL her high notes = two high C's, eighth notes in Act II as you surely know. Unless you're more ancient than I am, you've hardly seen Flagstad on stage (I have seen Nilsson many times) and therefore can not judge her acting. Nilsson was superb in Strauss and the best Elektra one can wish for, but she sacrificed the low and middle registers for security in the high notes and this, in my opinion, makes her less suitable in the Ring and Tristan, for instance. Nilsson's German is not very good and her rhythm often becomes contorted because of her attention to the high notes. Unlike Flagstad, she did not have perfect pitch and is often sharp. But of course, Nilsson was foremost in her generation. And let's put that story about the two high C's to rest. It is well known and the only mistake Decca made was not announcing it ahead of time.
@@VivaRenata, I bow entirely to your obvious knowledge of things Opera, but I must still disagree with your assessment of Nilsson in Wagner; she may have been sharp on occasion - even horribly so - but she was the most THRILLING Wagner soprano-actress I've ever seen and heard; we may agree to disagree. It was EMI (and not Decca) that allowed the aforementioned Tristan debacle to happen (the CEO of EMI was Schwarzkopf's husband!); yes, let's put those high C's to rest. If I've learned one thing in life it's that opera people are enormously passionate about everything operatic (yes, Renata Scotto - who is now 85 years young - was a simply fabulous bel canto and verismo singer-actress in her day; VivaRenata, indeed!); I will try, in future, to be more patient with the opinions and opera knowledge of others; even I could be wrong on ocassion. ;) Mike D.
I was just reading an interview where she wisely said there will be no Isolde or Brünnhile for 8-10 years. This is the right way to do it. She will be developed for these roles instead of used up and burnt out in a few seasons.
FINALLY a real dramatic soprano, after what seems like decades of suffering through, well, just a bunch of under pitch screaming. She’s the real deal, can’t wait to hear her Isolde (hopefully not too soon for this young gorgeous voice, but also soon enough to banish horrors like Stemme from the world stage).
Cliff Gaither Flagstad and Nilsson were nothing alike aside from being able to do their jobs admirably. Flagstad’s voice was earthy and beautiful, Nilsson’s all metallic steel. Flagstad’s voice might be the warmest of its type in history. Davidsen is spectacular but her voice is not fuller and warmer than Flagstad’s. Let’s not get ahead of ourselves.
@@jondavwal13 :: I never wrote that Nilsson & Flagstad were alike, voice-wise. I wrote that Davidsen voice was a richer / warmer sound than those two famous Wagnerian Singers. I rarely hear Wagnerian Sopranos who do have warm voices, Voight being an exception. Please point me to anything Flagstad has performed that comforts a cold heart instead of freezing it out-right. Her voice has never sounded as fully-rich as Davidsen sounds here -- IMO.
Cliff Gaither Davidsen is amazing but she hasn’t come close to approaching Flagstad. Her Four Last Songs are all you need to hear. And she was 55. Davidsen is the first one I’ve heard who could come close, but there is only one Flagstad. Sorry.
@@jondavwal13 :: Don't be "sorry". I will definitely check out Flagstad's _Four Last Songs._ ( At 55, her voice must have had a warmer sound. ) Thanks for the reference !
Fantástica, y gran debut del rol en Zürich. Si no se estropea, Davidsen promote convertirse en la heredera de Flagstad y Nilsson y la nueva reina wagneriana.
The kind of old school sound that hasn't been heard in a long time...Wonderful! However there's more than just a little morbidezza in the tone, and sounds more Italianate than Netrebko (no shade!! love Anna) - could be a spinto miracle; like a cross between Grummer and Cerquetti, or a tamed van den Heever lol. Best of luck, there are great days ahead!
Noé Raúl García Saldivar 🤷🏽♂️ I hear what I hear and that’s that on that. I agree about the diction though. Love Schwarzkopf for lieder but apart from Fiordiligi everything else leaves me cold
It is exciting to discover such a new artist, such a voice. But I disagree with those who criticize Domingo’s conducting. Listen to the other CZcams version of her Dich Theure Halle - very fast, exciting, but doesn’t begin to show her capabilities as this one does. The maestro understands singers!
ariane csonka but he utterly disrespects the conductor in doing so. The point of this song is joy unbridled.... it sounds very “bridled” at this tempo to me. And the singer handles the actual tempo perfectly well! If a singer can’t do the required range of tempo for an aria, she shouldn’t sing it (not that this is the case with Lise) Maybe more lushness is let out of her voice in this excruciatingly slow version, but it’s missing the spark for me, and the knowledge that the tempo is flat out wrong and some rhythms are off due to poor management of the orchestra is just plain frustrating.
It’s so hard to judge unless you hear a voice in the theater. I’ve heard all about Lise, so perhaps I was expecting too much. Yes, the technique, the fullness of tone, the absolute pitch, they are all there. And I’m grateful for that. But I wasn’t stunned the way I was when I first heard Deborah Voigt in the theater in 1992. THAT voice stunned me! At any rate, I hope to hear more from Lise, and I look forward to seeing her in the theater.
I think Davidsen was still a work in progress in this video. There are a number of technical issues here that she seems to have corrected since. I think Voigt was already fully formed by 1992.
Yes!!! Wonderful timbre and such line. 28? She's a contender for one of the greats, for sure. That full bodied top b at the end? Brava! The orchestra were far too slow and 'un'energized for my tastes. The grandeur and majesty come from the juxtaposition of the line & legato over the precise and almost frantic accompaniment that embodies Elisabeth's excitement. And that ending? We moved further into larghetto almost adagio and let ALL the steam out.
That's because Plácido Domingo should not be allowed within 10 miles of a podium. Come to think of it, he should not be allowed within 10 miles of any baritone role. And while at it, within 10 miles of any tenor role at this stage in his life. Time for him to go home to his wife, collect his pension, go fishing, and enjoy his grandchildren.
Davidsen may be the best jugendlich (I don't hear a hochdramatische, not yet) to appear on the scene since Studer. That's a long time to have waited. I know she will soon be singing the Wesendonck and Vier Letzte Lieder. I hope they record her professionally in these songs, for future commercial release. Could she set a new standard? That said, a pity about the conducting here.
Voix en lame d'acier , rappelant de façon troublante celle de Birgit Nilsson.Souhaitons-lui une aussi belle carrière que celle de son illustre devancière !
Best Wishes! If she could ever control that middle voice crackly sounding vibrato! Usually the higher vocal range is the most difficult to control! My Best Wishes!
How very sad, for Lise Davidsen's voice is so much better here, 8 years ago, than yesterday in the last night of the Proms 2023. The vibrato is just beginning to be apparent in this video, but now, sad to say, every note was blighted by a harsh, unpleasant juddering. She needs to take a year off to study with a teacher in the Garcia tradition and get rid of that ugly "spread tone" my wonderful teacher Oda Slobodskaya knew just how to eradicate. If she is to mature to full glory, for she has a fine instrument, she needs to model herself on Flagstad and Nilsson who never forced or became squally and unsteady.
Qu'on compare cette chanteuse avec Flagstad me sidère. Le timbre de la norvégienne était rien moins que somptueux. Cette voix au vibrato prononcé (trop) a encore beaucoup à évoluer pour ne serait-ce qu'approcher la classe, la grandeur et la beauté du chant de Kirsten. La puissance est là, mais le reste? Bon courage.
Wonderful natural instrument. Still has much to learn (started late). Let's hope the agents don't fuck her up. Look forward to seeing her in London in Fidelio
@@Altonahh10 I didn't say he was good or bad as a conductor, but I referred in the sense of his moment as a conductor and I just also wanted to say that it was Placido who was conducting Lise. Thank you for understanding... 🙏🏻
What a beautiful voice! A little nasal though. If she manages to avoid the nasal projection her beautiful voice will sound much bigger and clearer. Her diction will improve too
I heard how great she was, and then proceeded to listen to her recording of Morgen, which is awful. Too slow, too hooded, too boring. I thought she was all hype, but listening to this rendition, I can hear what the fuss is about. She is incredible here, even with Placido Domingo's tepid conducting.
If this voice is now compared to Nillsson or Traubel...we are really low. Yesterday the NYT gave her the most incredible review... THE voice..they said...not to me...maybe its matured in four years....the lower register is so weak...and no individuality at all. Yuck.
You have a wonderful voice but you comitted the crime to participate in the obscene scenification of Tannheuser 2019 and defecated over the image of the great dramaturgist. I´m not sure I want to listen again your voice. You are artistically dead for the traditional public
Are you serious?? You are going to harshly judge this very talented young singer because she accepted a production not to your liking? What a sore loser you are. Go crawl under a rock!
The position of her lips is often wrong, she darkens the vowels, so they mostly sound like an "O". Besides a lack of proper pronounciation she produces a nasal sound which is wrong!
Completely blown away. Stunning performance. A genuine Wagnerian voice. Beautiful.
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@@vincec8218 KK-She is not ready for Wagner yet!!!!!
@@uraniastern5755you can say that again! The timbre is dark, but barely any steel...perhaps that's will come in time.
until yesterday I didn't know this young soprano.
yesterday I went Met opera to see die meistersinger von nurnberg, and there she sings Eva.
instantly I became her fan
tow words ' AAAAAAAAAAAAmazing voice "
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This is a calibre long thought gone from opera! Amazingly talented... but such a warm personality shines through, alongside those gleaming tones! Indeed the timbre of great Straussian/Wagnerian voices of lore... exciting times. I pray she manages this amazing voice well because it could transport as well as pioneer!
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Came here after the NYTimes article. Yes, this is the real thing. It's not 100% technique and noise without any care for the sound that's coming out like 99.9% of sopranos today. The sound is beautiful, focused, and cuts through you like a knife. Thrilling actually.
The problem today is not too much technique, it's too little.
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Unfortunately, the unknowing public equate a big voice with a great voice! She still has a lot of improving to do, especially with her Diction! It is terrible! High Notes are well placed and pretty good, though! But she needs to seriously work on that crackling sounding and overly forced vibrato in her middle range. I am suprised she doesn't have a handle in that middle voice, when the higher vocal range is usually the most difficult to control! She may yet have a career, especially due to her affiliation with the Met! Best Wishes!
@shirley mckinney I don’t think the public knows what a big voice really is. For example, both Kaufmann and Florez are extremely popular, but they have tiny, constricted voices.
@@shirley9529 I agree!
Magnifique voix!
It's impossible to judge the size of the voice in this video. But the reaction in the hall is rapturous.
I was there that evening. She looked so unassuming compared to a lot of the huge gowns and waving arms of the other singers, but her voice just blew everyone away, it was pretty incredible!
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@@vincec8218 we talk here about Lise, who is absolutely amazing live. I had the chance to hear her voice yesterday. it is incredibly big.
@@dr-tsea good ear you have! Yes the voice is big, but the tone color and the lack of the dramatic "steel" is evident but perhaps that will come in time.
Endlich wieder eine Sängerin mit Stimme.Ich habe sie erst kürlich in der Berliner Staatoper in dieser Rolle gesehen. Grossartig!
Heard Lise sing in Palma de Mallorca last night. Stunning!
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She has every attribute a Dramatic Soprano needs. The challenge that comes with that is the talent of understanding the scale of what you have. What is intimate vs what is openly operatic? Even in Wagner this is where the art is. To hear her sing Lieder ist something special. She sheds the onion leaves of volume and too much compression. This is the greatest challenge a singer ever faces. This example is at the birth of her career. One can hope that her sense of self continues to reveal itself. If she goes that route, I believe it would be next to impossible to stop her. At this point in a career to have such a voice is luxury and she has since received awards. But the rewards of a career in this crazy business come to not only those who receive God's largess in native talent, but goes to those obsessed enough to ferret out every last drop of intimacy and truth. The more she achieves that the more will laurels be laid at her feet where ever she walks. I will keep her in my prayers.
Of the new singers coming up, and I have yet to hear her live, she is very promising, talented and a beautiful woman.
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@@vincec8218 czcams.com/video/tffHv59oqug/video.html I attach a linke to Freni to give a shining example of how a singer of this role should aspire to compete
Kasondra is a young singer and I wish her well. She is an aspiring singer. Opera is about the voice in the most particular of ways, and that is not just standing and singing or being beautiful. Every form of music must find a way to the heart. Thanks for the lead.
Lise Davidsen & Saioa Hernandez have totally different repertoire the voices speak for themselves. The next 10 years will be very interesting for these two ladies. Very promising voices indeed. Thank you for posting Arnuald Bourbon Amaral 🙏🙏💙
I saw her sing this back in February at the ROH, and she was incredible!!
Absolut wunderbar! Bravo!!
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So fun to see and hear this new phenom. She is such a natural singer at such a young age! Extremely exciting! I hope to hear her in person in the next little while. She's already an amazing artist. I imagine she'll be even better. No reason to compare her to anyone in the past. She is her own person and is at the beginning. Best luck to her!
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Lise is unbelievable live! Stunning!
I’m seeing her perform next month in London! Cannot wait
@@lefinlay Saw her last Saturday at the Royal Opera, absolutely brilliant.
@@avatus775544 I was also there for the 2pm matinee! 😂 she was amazing!
Gorgeous singing.
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Exquisite voice. I got chills.
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@@vincec8218 again?!!
A TRUE MODERN WAGNERIIAN SOPRANO FINALLY!!!!!!!! BRAVAAAA!!!!🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟✨✨✨✨
Wow!!!!! Stunning stunning stunning!!! A real voice beautifully produced, for today finally!!!!
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A HUGE talent!!!!
Stunning ... huge voice, endless breath ...
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Cómo a alguien le puede no gustar ésto??? La chica lo hizo genial... Fue magnífica 😍! Qué voz! Increíble! Una brava!
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wunderbar!
When people start comparing your soprano voice to the great Varnay and
the legendary Flagstad, there's a whole lot more going on than just "The
next best new singer." Georg Solti once commented: "I once heard 30
sopranos audition for a part in a Mozart Opera; none of their voices
moved me... until I heard Kiri (te Kanawa) sing! Here was something very
special; a one in a million voice!" The very same thing is happening
here! Yes, Lise is very young, but she already has that magnificent
"buttery" fullness of tone, top notes to DIE for (3:19), and, YES, her vibrato
comes in a few seconds after the note begins - Varnay style - just the
way I like it! Take note people: you'll be hearing this very remarkable
voice - in all the major Wagner & Strauss soprano roles - for a very
long time to come; just think what this Norwegian wonder will do with
Isolde... and Elektra... and Brunhilde?!! PLEASE support Lise's career
and buy her debut album on Decca (which includes "Dich teure Halle");
mine is already on the way... we live in very privileged times. MD
I can agree that this is a very fine developing dramatic soprano, who gives us all great hope that all is not lost - yet. However, it's a disfavor to compare her to Flagstad. Just in this aria, I hear that her articulation and use of consonants is to a great degree modelled on Nilsson, and Swedish though I may be, I think she should toss those recordings in the trash where they belong and pay more attention to the vocal style and interpretation of her great compatriot. And of course, you can not compare anyone to Flagstad, ever!
Oh, I very much beg to differ!
Firstly, it is NOT a disfavor to compare Davisen to Flagstad (no one, not even Flagstad, is untouchable; please remember that she agreed to have Elisabeth Schwarzkopf sing ALL her high notes - quite deceptively! - in her recording of Tristan und Isolde with Furtwängler), but the very highest of sincere compliments.
And secondly, "toss Nilsson's recordings in the trash where they belong???" I'm not sure what planet you're from but THAT is a disfavorable remark for the ages! There is not a single opera lover, opera critic, musicologist, opera conductor or Wagner soprano, living or deceased, that doesn't/didn't rate Birgit Nilsson at the very HIGHEST LEVEL of her profession... but we should, of course, take your word for her worthiness?
In retrospect, it might just be egregious to compare Davidsen to Flagstad: Nilsson was far and away the better singer, the better stage actress, utterly incomparable and therefore a more worthy predecessor.
I stand corrected.
@@gardenphoto ALL her high notes = two high C's, eighth notes in Act II as you surely know. Unless you're more ancient than I am, you've hardly seen Flagstad on stage (I have seen Nilsson many times) and therefore can not judge her acting. Nilsson was superb in Strauss and the best Elektra one can wish for, but she sacrificed the low and middle registers for security in the high notes and this, in my opinion, makes her less suitable in the Ring and Tristan, for instance. Nilsson's German is not very good and her rhythm often becomes contorted because of her attention to the high notes. Unlike Flagstad, she did not have perfect pitch and is often sharp. But of course, Nilsson was foremost in her generation. And let's put that story about the two high C's to rest. It is well known and the only mistake Decca made was not announcing it ahead of time.
@@VivaRenata, I bow entirely to your obvious knowledge of things Opera, but I must still disagree with your assessment of Nilsson in Wagner; she may have been sharp on occasion - even horribly so - but she was the most THRILLING Wagner soprano-actress I've ever seen and heard; we may agree to disagree.
It was EMI (and not Decca) that allowed the aforementioned Tristan debacle to happen (the CEO of EMI was Schwarzkopf's husband!); yes, let's put those high C's to rest.
If I've learned one thing in life it's that opera people are enormously passionate about everything operatic (yes, Renata Scotto - who is now 85 years young - was a simply fabulous bel canto and verismo singer-actress in her day; VivaRenata, indeed!); I will try, in future, to be more patient with the opinions and opera knowledge of others; even I could be wrong on ocassion. ;)
Mike D.
I was just reading an interview where she wisely said there will be no Isolde or Brünnhile for 8-10 years. This is the right way to do it. She will be developed for these roles instead of used up and burnt out in a few seasons.
She is amazing!!!!!
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WONDERFUL!
She's a superstar!!!
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FINALLY a real dramatic soprano, after what seems like decades of suffering through, well, just a bunch of under pitch screaming. She’s the real deal, can’t wait to hear her Isolde (hopefully not too soon for this young gorgeous voice, but also soon enough to banish horrors like Stemme from the world stage).
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“Horrors like Stemme” jeez oh calm down pal.
Impressive voice. I am just learning about this Singer but will be listening and watching!
Very good. Time will tell if she can approach the mountain top level of Flagstad, Traubel, Varnay, and Nilsson.
SymphonyBrahms ::
Of course she will. Her voice is much fuller, warmer, richer than Nilsson's & Flagstad's approaching glaciers.
Cliff Gaither Flagstad and Nilsson were nothing alike aside from being able to do their jobs admirably. Flagstad’s voice was earthy and beautiful, Nilsson’s all metallic steel. Flagstad’s voice might be the warmest of its type in history. Davidsen is spectacular but her voice is not fuller and warmer than Flagstad’s. Let’s not get ahead of ourselves.
@@jondavwal13 ::
I never wrote that Nilsson & Flagstad were alike, voice-wise. I wrote that Davidsen voice was a richer / warmer sound than those two famous Wagnerian Singers.
I rarely hear Wagnerian Sopranos who do have warm voices, Voight being an exception.
Please point me to anything Flagstad has performed that comforts a cold heart instead of freezing it out-right. Her voice has never sounded as fully-rich as Davidsen sounds here -- IMO.
Cliff Gaither Davidsen is amazing but she hasn’t come close to approaching Flagstad. Her Four Last Songs are all you need to hear. And she was 55. Davidsen is the first one I’ve heard who could come close, but there is only one Flagstad. Sorry.
@@jondavwal13 ::
Don't be "sorry". I will definitely check out Flagstad's _Four Last Songs._ ( At 55, her voice must have had a warmer sound. )
Thanks for the reference !
I thought they had all died out in favor of pip squeak canaries/sex symbols. A Wagnerian in truth. WUNDERBAR!
BRAVISSIMA!!!
Magnificent.
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Brava !
Magnificent. I love these solo song performances of Wagner. Shorter, cruise missiles of culture. Ms. Davidsen is great.
Divine!
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Fantástica, y gran debut del rol en Zürich. Si no se estropea, Davidsen promote convertirse en la heredera de Flagstad y Nilsson y la nueva reina wagneriana.
Totalment d'acord.....la vaig sentir en una valkiria al Club Wagner de Barcelona i ja em va robar el cor i l'oïda 🎶🎵!!!!!!
Viking Göttin...!
BRAVA!!!! Absolutely magnificent!
Pretty damn good.
Badass!
The kind of old school sound that hasn't been heard in a long time...Wonderful! However there's more than just a little morbidezza in the tone, and sounds more Italianate than Netrebko (no shade!! love Anna) - could be a spinto miracle; like a cross between Grummer and Cerquetti, or a tamed van den Heever lol. Best of luck, there are great days ahead!
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Vince C Thank you I will 👌🏽
Noé Raúl García Saldivar 🤷🏽♂️ I hear what I hear and that’s that on that. I agree about the diction though. Love Schwarzkopf for lieder but apart from Fiordiligi everything else leaves me cold
ohmygods. Here's greatness.
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Bravo
BRAVA!!!
It is exciting to discover such a new artist, such a voice. But I disagree with those who criticize Domingo’s conducting. Listen to the other CZcams version of her Dich Theure Halle - very fast, exciting, but doesn’t begin to show her capabilities as this one does. The maestro understands singers!
ariane csonka but he utterly disrespects the conductor in doing so. The point of this song is joy unbridled.... it sounds very “bridled” at this tempo to me. And the singer handles the actual tempo perfectly well! If a singer can’t do the required range of tempo for an aria, she shouldn’t sing it (not that this is the case with Lise) Maybe more lushness is let out of her voice in this excruciatingly slow version, but it’s missing the spark for me, and the knowledge that the tempo is flat out wrong and some rhythms are off due to poor management of the orchestra is just plain frustrating.
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Domingo is a good Conductor. He sucks as a Baritone. He should concentrate on Conducting and stop singing !
The problem isn't the speed per se, but rather that the line totally drags. Even the parts where she doesn't sing don't move at all.
Is that Placido Domingo conducting?
unfortunately
yes: the real thing
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amazing
amazing ! How she does that perfectly
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It’s so hard to judge unless you hear a voice in the theater. I’ve heard all about Lise, so perhaps I was expecting too much. Yes, the technique, the fullness of tone, the absolute pitch, they are all there. And I’m grateful for that. But I wasn’t stunned the way I was when I first heard Deborah Voigt in the theater in 1992. THAT voice stunned me! At any rate, I hope to hear more from Lise, and I look forward to seeing her in the theater.
I think Davidsen was still a work in progress in this video. There are a number of technical issues here that she seems to have corrected since. I think Voigt was already fully formed by 1992.
Yes!!! Wonderful timbre and such line. 28? She's a contender for one of the greats, for sure. That full bodied top b at the end? Brava!
The orchestra were far too slow and 'un'energized for my tastes. The grandeur and majesty come from the juxtaposition of the line & legato over the precise and almost frantic accompaniment that embodies Elisabeth's excitement. And that ending? We moved further into larghetto almost adagio and let ALL the steam out.
That's because Plácido Domingo should not be allowed within 10 miles of a podium. Come to think of it, he should not be allowed within 10 miles of any baritone role. And while at it, within 10 miles of any tenor role at this stage in his life. Time for him to go home to his wife, collect his pension, go fishing, and enjoy his grandchildren.
@@doGreatartistsgrowontrees or within 10 miles of a soprano by the sound of it
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Dette er til å få frysningar av! Er ho verkeleg norsk? Takk!
Lise Davidsen er fra Stokke i Vestfold.
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Domingo conducting?
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@@vincec8218 Are you her agent???? 😳 the people have the right to know!!!! 😬😬😬😬🏃♀️🏃🏃♀️🏃🏃♀️🏃🏃♀️🏃
Davidsen may be the best jugendlich (I don't hear a hochdramatische, not yet) to appear on the scene since Studer. That's a long time to have waited. I know she will soon be singing the Wesendonck and Vier Letzte Lieder. I hope they record her professionally in these songs, for future commercial release. Could she set a new standard? That said, a pity about the conducting here.
so much better than studer - much more colour- hope she will choose wisely in her offers, fantastic talent and voice
Voix en lame d'acier , rappelant de façon troublante celle de Birgit Nilsson.Souhaitons-lui une aussi belle carrière que celle de son illustre devancière !
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Norges nye Ingrid Bjoner? Eller Kirsten Flagstad.
Què hi fa el Placido dirigint?
Jag tror att Birgit är glad i himlen - och Kirsten också.
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Beautiful voice, yet another shaking jaw.
dramatic soprano?
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Best Wishes! If she could ever control that middle voice crackly sounding vibrato! Usually the higher vocal range is the most difficult to control! My Best Wishes!
The new Birgit Nilsson? Lise is apparently on her way to such fame.
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Insultant veu wagneriana.
Rhythm?
Magnificent voice. Her German needs work, though.
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Similar to Marjorie Lawrence.
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How very sad, for Lise Davidsen's voice is so much better here, 8 years ago, than yesterday in the last night of the Proms 2023. The vibrato is just beginning to be apparent in this video, but now, sad to say, every note was blighted by a harsh, unpleasant juddering. She needs to take a year off to study with a teacher in the Garcia tradition and get rid of that ugly "spread tone" my wonderful teacher Oda Slobodskaya knew just how to eradicate. If she is to mature to full glory, for she has a fine instrument, she needs to model herself on Flagstad and Nilsson who never forced or became squally and unsteady.
Beautiful singing, but conducting doesn't help...
Qu'on compare cette chanteuse avec Flagstad me sidère. Le timbre de la norvégienne était rien moins que somptueux. Cette voix au vibrato prononcé (trop) a encore beaucoup à évoluer pour ne serait-ce qu'approcher la classe, la grandeur et la beauté du chant de Kirsten. La puissance est là, mais le reste? Bon courage.
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La suite a démontré la clairvoyance de ce point de vue...
Wonderful natural instrument. Still has much to learn (started late). Let's hope the agents don't fuck her up. Look forward to seeing her in London in Fidelio
She's not a soprano with a bunch of underpitch notes...she's a mezzo..trying to sing soprano and we have had quite enough of them
Do you know dark sopranos existe? listen rosa ponselle...birgit nilsson...etc
(sorry my english)
@@marial.752 I totally agree with you Maria. This lady has a beautiful future.
Such a fabulous instrument, but she is cultivating it without involving the chest register. WHY?
Dirigent/Maestro: Plácido Domingo 😀
The term maestro is absolutely wrong here. Domingo is a terrible conductor.
@@Altonahh10 I didn't say he was good or bad as a conductor, but I referred in the sense of his moment as a conductor and I just also wanted to say that it was Placido who was conducting Lise.
Thank you for understanding... 🙏🏻
What a beautiful voice! A little nasal though. If she manages to avoid the nasal projection her beautiful voice will sound much bigger and clearer. Her diction will improve too
Fantastico colore, ma curare meglio le note di petto
Great natural instrument plagued by improper modern "vocal technique". What a shame.
@@dr-tse No. Not even close.
Sorry, she isn't on Nilsson's or Flagstad's level...
@@dr-tse I'm talking about vocal development. And Lise isn't even close to both of them
Far better than any of your "pupills".
Gorgeous voice, dreadful and excruciatingly slow conducting. She handles the terrible tempo so well!
I like her colour of voice, but I think this arias was not the appropriate for her voice...
Enrique Rivera Soprano spinto and in future dramatic and I like very so much and I like very so much dark voice color too.
I heard how great she was, and then proceeded to listen to her recording of Morgen, which is awful. Too slow, too hooded, too boring. I thought she was all hype, but listening to this rendition, I can hear what the fuss is about. She is incredible here, even with Placido Domingo's tepid conducting.
Domingo’s conducting dreadful as usual
operaperu as a conductor he's an excellent tenor
Yes, awful.
Good voice but so boring ...
Her voice is very promising, but her artistic development is far from "one in a million". Too monotonous in expression, dynamics, and stage charisma.
Dr Violin big voices don’t record well....you cant hear the nuances as well, at least from what I have heard
If this voice is now compared to Nillsson or Traubel...we are really low. Yesterday the NYT gave her the most incredible review... THE voice..they said...not to me...maybe its matured in four years....the lower register is so weak...and no individuality at all. Yuck.
You have a wonderful voice but you comitted the crime to participate in the obscene scenification of Tannheuser 2019 and defecated over the image of the great dramaturgist. I´m not sure I want to listen again your voice. You are artistically dead for the traditional public
Are you serious?? You are going to harshly judge this very talented young singer because she accepted a production not to your liking? What a sore loser you are. Go crawl under a rock!
The only committed crime I can see here is the crime of publishing very stupid comments.
The position of her lips is often wrong, she darkens the vowels, so they mostly sound like an "O". Besides a lack of proper pronounciation she produces a nasal sound which is wrong!
Just leave your number here, I am sure millions of promising young singers just can’t wait to take singing lessons from you.
amazing ! How she does that perfectly