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JBL GTO939 Premium 6 x 9 VS Infinity Kappa 693 Real sound and bass test full review
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- čas přidán 14. 08. 2024
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I was between the JBL GTO 939 and the Infinity Kappa 693 for my 2016 Jeep Renegade, which uses 6x9 for all four doors and 3.5" for the dash. I ended up with the JBL GTO 939 for the doors and the JBL Club 3020 for the dash 3.5" speakers. It really sounds awesome and it is not even fully broken in yet. I am sure I would have been very happy with the Infinity Kappa as well.
Are you running an amp on the 6x9s?
@@justinjames1301 Factory amp.
To add to that, the factory Amp pushes 500 watts. 50 watts to each of the front door speakers, and 50 watts to each of the 2 tweeters, 100 watts to both of the back door speakers and 100 watts to the sub. All in all a decent factory Amp. I just purchased the same JBL GTO 939 6x9 speakers for all the doors and waiting to see how the tweeters will compare. So far, how are you liking the JBL tweeters? And do you plan to switch out the sub or factory amp?
I'll choose clearity over loudness anytime
They both sound good . It just depends on what sounds good to you. I was leaning towards JBL until the latter end of the video then I couldnt make up my mind.... I guess I would have to hear both in person to make a definitive choice.
The passive crossovers of each could drastically change the sound depending on each speakers crossover points. Each speakers designers have their own preference on when the crossover is transfered from the woofer to the mid and to the tweeters with reference of overlap. If you know this..the loudness doesn't mean more quality sound
16:14 in this part you can hear the notes a lot better on the infinity speakers.The JBL sounds dull here with harsh treble.
You got that 👍
Scotty Kilmer you’re so right about this!!
Yes it is
REV UP THOSE SPEAKERS!!!!!
Scotty, Love your channel too!!
The difference in volume is die to the sensitivity of the speaker. You just need more power to run the Infinity.
Both have 94db sensitivity, but Infinity speaker is only 3 ohm vs JBLs 4 ohm. Infinity speakers rms watts is 72.5 vs JBL’s 100 watts rms. By the numbers the JBL speakers need more power, right?
Actually the Infinity has a more efficient use of power as it produces 96 Db to the JBL’s 94 Db at the same given power.
Exactly. Infinity needs more power because it is 2ohm. Cannot connect both a 4ohm and 2ohm to the same amp to compare.
@@mattroberts8595 72.5W@2 Ohm, is very different to 100W@4 Ohm
I ma 50 year old audiophile and can hear the argument for both but prefer the Infinity's Very good job by the way on your reviews, perhaps the best on YT to date.
I agree more details.
Agreed
i love the way you test keep it up! Good review of the pioneers pro 6.5
Now if you could test the JL c1 and c2, Sundown 6x9, and Focal 6x9 against the Kappa, you'd be doing me a huge favor haha
The absolute BEST 6'x9"s I've ever had was a pair of Pioneer Premier 2ways with the yellow Kevlar cone. loud and clear. That was 12 years ago. Haven't heard anything as good since. Since then, I've gone STRAIGHT PA Speakers.
Yeah I had them too lol
Yep Im thinking it was best for that time
I've never used or heard them, but I'm not at all surprised at you experience and testimony
With that said, and in spite of what we believe, speakers have not magically improved over the years, as we have many, many older speakers in existence today to prove that.
both the infinity and the jbl sound amazing.. many tend to like the infinity a bit more but what y'all need to consider is price.. because at least in my region the infinity cost almost double the jbl price for the same speakers that's why I'll choose the JBL since it's still a high quality speaker great sounding yet suits my budget specially when I'm buying 6 speakers and 2 tweeters the price will add up.
also don't forget that you will need a high quality amplifier to make the most out of these lil beasts
Which could be the best amplifier for those speakers (for a sedan)
@@pravindabhagya6276 you need to choose your speakers first then see how many wats do you need.. for example in my car i needed 800W so i got myself an infinity 800w amp to power my JBL speakers and they work great
@@pravindabhagya6276 and btw you can save up some money on the speakers but never go cheap on the amps they are way way more important
To me the JBL sound more bright while the Kappa has more rich bass.
I think it depends on the kind of music that you listen to that will determine what is best.
so if we need sound quality, clarity, we have to stick to the Stadium model. is it?
I'm listening to this video with good headphones sounds really similar same bass but jbl is more efficient
I don’t know what to say, when I listened to crutchfield sound test, infinity had won, but with your test, the results were different ? Jbl sound a little bit louder and the clarity of the speaker is far more better than infinity speaker! This is my honest opinion and answer guys! I guess it’s up to a buyer now which speaker to buy. Good luck guys.🙂🙂🙂!!!
Here are the parameters that could make a difference;
*Box;* size, material, fill
*Amp;* class, overhead power, dynamic range
*Source;* signal quality, music, crossover(frequency) range
This is a great video. I think comes down to preference. Either u want smooth with power or you want power with clarity they are very good speakers it’s a tough choice
The JBL939 is a 2ohm speaker. It's not a 4ohm which is what you were saying. That's probably why it's louder plus when you hit the button you get a +3db from the tweeters.
Ohms.. and efficiency ratings are different. Really makes use of the power. Nice compare though ! I like the brightness of the JBL it sounds more airy. But that's the kappa not the Reference so the JBL may compare closer to the Reference because it's more efficient.
Mike the difference in the JBL vs infinity is this. Step back and look at them . The JBL has a smaller area even tho both 6x9 the woofer/mid and tweeter are larger on the infinity making sound more subtle. I think if more power applied the infinity would dominate. Idk
I ACTUALLY ORDERED 2 pairs of the JBL’s based on this video ✅✅✅ I can’t wait to hear them.
Hope you gonna love it
How did you like them? Thinking of ordering a pair today.
So? What is the verdict?
Going to order a pair. How did it sound ?
Infinity is for life. I still have some from many many years ago and still to this day play flawless
The infinity sounds more dynamic and clear. Just a fuller sound in my opinion.
true
They're from the same company and I noticed that JBL seems to cater to the "cheaper" side of the market.
@@Zedexization I almost view it like JBL is like Harman's entry level brand, infinity is the next step up.
@@zackkirk6514 omg, that was what I wanted to say and you said it perfectly. Yeah it does cater to entry level sound systems but for some reason some of their systems does have an expensive price tag
@@Zedexization honestly for the prices tho, I bet ones like the Alpine Type R & the Rockford T2's blow those away.
The reason JBL is louder is because of energy efficiency. JBL probably uses passive crossovers, infinity uses active (digital) crossovers, meaning it is powered by the signal input.
Their both made from the same company just different line up
Can't stop laughing..... Funny how ppl think🤦♂️
Different filtering capacitors different tweeters different cone basket designs different one has more open design they both are good when you power them
i dont know. im going with the jbl.. if its a little to tweety turn the treb down.. you have a better sounding speaker with thicker speaker foam in the end...
I actually own the JBL GTO939 (being powered by a Hifonics 5-channel Amp) and it's been getting a beating day in and day out w/no issues.
@@OG_Fernando Yep put an amp on them and they sing!
They both sound awesome, cant really tell the difference
What is the best :
Pioneer ts 6900 pro
JBL gto 939
I don't need bass becaus i have subwoofer
I heard them both in person with 3 of my friends, and we agreed the JBL sounds alot better. The JBL is alot clearer and the bass sounds more like sub on the JBL. Infinity is more like a midrange speaker with tight bass.
Also infinity kappas are designed to be run on an amplifier in a SQ setup. JBL for the more conservative high end setup.
I'd like to hear you make a far test with the jbl gto 6x9 and alpine type r. I like both jbl gto 6x9 and the alpine type r 6x9 there both great but I'd really like it if you did the comparison with both of those...
Did you break the speakers in before your test? I usually play pink noise for about 40+ hours at 80 db to break mine in.
Good point ty for that bro
Is this off of an amplified signal or just a stereo output? Really Interesting.... I had the Infinity's running on a 100 watt rms amp and they held notes down like if I had mini subwoofers in the truck. Great video btw
IM RUNNING OF AMP IN 1 CHANNEL SO SOUND OUTPUT THE SAME FOR BOTH
Gonna be putting 4 of these kappas in my truck w/ 120w per channel at set ohm. Getting these for mostly bass.
Infinity 6x9 s are best car speakers with close to flat response in all freq range.... I've been using infinity kappa as top surround in my home theatre setup, infinity sounds very close to my pro grade tower speakers till 200hz.
Btw my 6 towers cost almost 2500$.
Damn. Finally a good video for once.
He compared infinity’s best
To other brands budget (cheap)speakers
Not fair at all
What makes the choices hard aren't always the price. I own a 2016 Dodge Ram 1500, and alot of 6x9's don't fit in the front doors according to Crutchfield. But Sonic Electronics says alot of the speakers fit. Leaning towards all infinity ref. Or NVX speakers (Cea certified wattage). Any advise would be great
I have the 16 ram with the alpine system… did you upgrade your 6x9s? And if so what did you go with?
I fot 6x9 kappas in my 13 ram in all 4 doors. You have to notch a little bit into the olastic and use a spacer it will go in. Jist dont cut below the screw the holds the window regulator in place. I accidently did thay on one and almost had to replace my window regulator
JBL = Freshness of music
are these speakers running off just head unit power, or are they amplified??
Infinity Kappa is, hands down, the best product you tested in this lineup.
I own them and push them with a Sundown SAE-50.4, LPF set to 80Hz at the h/u.
They scream, and the mid-bass/bass punches good and hard.
When I ran them full-range prior to installing my sub, they produced good bass down to about 32Hz before roll-off.
Out of curiosity, what are you pushing the speakers with, and what are you setting gains with?
Mainly asking because the Infinity's and JBL's really don't wake up until you give them about 60-70 watts, unlike the 4 ohm speakers you're comparing them to.
What do you think of the infinity reference line? I know kappa is like the high end model but I heard the infinity reference line is supposed to be high end as well just more affordable but what do you think if you know
@@matthewvaladez8209 I honestly don't have any experience with that line. I imagine they are pretty damn good though, all things considered. I would recommend going with the Kapps though. they have set screw terminals, they are 2-ohm impedance, they can take a lot of power (provided your HPF is set correctly), and they are well built. There are plenty of other things I could say about them, but I will just continue urging you to try them for yourself. I'll see about posting a video of my humble system and reply to this thread with a link to the vid so you can get an idea.
Joseph Laux for sure yeah I’ve been looking for better sounding speakers. I have Cerwin Vega speakers but my high ends seem to be a bit harsh. I have a Cerwin Vega 10 inch subwoofer already so I just want nice strong clear quality speakers
What sub did u pair with the kappas? I have 2 sets of 6.5 kappas but don’t want boomy overwhelming base just good full base
They have glass fiber cones not "plastic" as a matter in fact I don't think anyone uses straight up plastic lmao dude has no idea what he's spitting
Kappa sounds cleaner tho. But what do you think about the infinity reference line
I know everyone has there preferences. Yours is definitly that you like the speaker to be treble and bass heavy. For someone who prefers a more even frequency response. The Kappa was better here.
Excellent job i had t545 jbls 20 years ago that were stolen two pair 😢 i would love to have them back an never seen anymore again my cuzin had sum t95s but they didnt jam like mine❤
you need the correct air volume for any 6x9 for an accurate test
If you like bass and volume at max JBL with or without amp if you an audiophile and balance either running an sq set up Inifinitys. Im installing JBL because im gonna run stock set up and love bass!
Kappa is more full and cleaner. JBL is over saturated
They are the same speaker! The only thing i can tthink off is something might be wrong with the tweeter button on one..
The JBL is a 3 0hm I think I might get a pair they sound good
The infinity is also 3ohm not 2 i checked the manual on their website
Infinity is 2 Ohm
The JBL’s are louder, but they don’t sound better. The Infinity Kappa lineup was designed with sound quality and linearity in mind. The JBL GTO lineup was designed to get loud and low for the mass market. I run Kappa components in my car, with proper tuning and crossovers I can tell there is a tremendous difference compared to the JBL GTO component lineup (which was in my vehicle before). The Kappa’s do a much better job of being clean and linear, and that’s what makes them more appealing to certain buyers such as myself. Besides, you use a sub to hit bass notes, not a 6x9 speaker, thats why people are always blowing their shit out.
FAX .!!!!📠
Exactly I went through so many speakers back in the day before crossovers and such. I will now probably set these at either 120 hz and a 12 db slope or 100 with a 24db slope cutoff. Will cut them off just before the doors rattle too much. I am not using dynomat but may try a foam baffle if it is too excessive. I have Polk DB571 in my other truck and they are ok but I think these will be better. I bought Club 9632 for the front doors and may get GT0 939 for the rear doors. I have not heard them yet. I am waiting for an amp to come in (Rockville DB55).
I love bass and zero distortion but i dont want to full install a sound system on a beater one cus if i go all out its gonna be worth more than the car and then its an old car so easy to get stolen so yeah Jbl should be good if i want a punchy distortion free bass 👍🏽
Where are the links to the music so we can hear the real sound
Just bought and installed alpine 6.5 type s speakers. Literally horrified by the sound quality. I’m so pissed
you mentioned you have an F150. can you share your setup. Year and stock factory system you started with... just subbed... awesome channel.. shopping for a system after over 20yrs outta the game
Hey bro welcome to real life )
here is my set up was on my F150
czcams.com/video/NKYie2dp5zc/video.html
Hi Mike.. I like your reviews and i think the best.. But for this one, Have you ever considered that the result would be different in a small room like car's cabin?
Yes will be a different
But my main point is show how each speaker will compare with other others
@@LIFEINSPEED
Oke I understand your reason. Please inform me the result after you change your kappa into this jbl. As my knowledge, in car's accustic, Kappa would be better in SQ and SQL. Jbl would be a little better in SPL. Correct me if i am wrong. :) TQ Bro..
Just installed gx638 and it has no bass over the stock paper speakers. I then changed to gto939 and the same!! I have 90w rms going to it and the bass is gutless compared the the stock Toyota Prius speakers. I only have one speaker installed. Polarity is correct. What's wrong?
Gto and Kappa are basically the same spkr
Only spkr I remember sounding better back in the late 80s early 90s was the Altec Lansing phase 2 3 way
Yes, sir!!!
Instead of holding both buttons in your hands just use one hand to press both buttons. As it looks like you can easily manipulate which speaker is working and looks very annoying when you have both thumbs on buttons. Good speaker comparison tho
I can't really tell the difference from my headphones, they seem to sound alike, the small difference is that infinity has a difference in the twits a bit higher than jbl and less bass but its hard to tell
Those are entry level Rockford fosgate. They make punch and power also
Just saw this video and I know it's old. Just an FYI, JBL is voiced differently than Infinity on purpose by Harman, it has always been that way.
How much power do u have running them ?? Stock head unit or amplifier
Any suggestions for affordable 6×9 subwoofers/speakers with really good bass. I have a stock stereo with 9 pioneer speakers and a stock 500w amp. And one of my rear dash 6x9 subs is rattling and I would like to just replace the both.
The jbl don’t sound bad at all, just don’t sound “natural”. They are piercingly bright and slightly hallow. The IK are still loud but more balanced with better mid bass
You said in the first video the jbl 4 ohm... But it's 3 ohm.. That could be difference to wire than infinity 2 ohm..
And other thing.. Why big company like JBL do speakers with strange impedance like 2.5.. 2.7 and 3.0 ohm
How we supposed wire it!!!
And if we wire it to nearest ohm of the implifier what the disadvantage for the speakers than if it wired with the actually Same ohm it supposed to?!! Could the speakers break down after a while?? And the sound be different??!!
Cuz they want to sell there amp and when you connect jbl amp with jbl speakers its a killer sound I mean really good sounding system in total
All Harman company amplifiers are only 2 and 4 ohm.. I searched before and didn't see any amplifier from this company produce another ohms..
once i bought infinity kappas for my doors, it sounded good but only with Eq on.
Than i bought Jbl's it sounded very dynamic and detailed without the Eq on.
looking to add additional speaker in my car and want best sound quality/clarity. is this better than the pioneer Z series(considered to be the best in the pioneer range)?? to note that i dont need bass as i have dual sub in my trunk. i need only vocal and high frequencies.
jbl are brighter and maybe this can be confused with better sound, but kappa are more balanced for me
Late comment, but for anyone new to this, searching around for information, there is alot of missing information going on here. I love the videos, but you definitely might as well not show the skar or cerwins or fosgates. This series is obviously influenced by harmon kardon, either their personal interest or your personal preference. Dont get me wrong, I am a huge harmon fan, my whole home audio set up is old school harmon, and watching this video because I am shopping for kappa highs right now. I dont think its cool at all to throw some of the most legitimate companies under the bus though. Fosgate and cerwin vega where there leading the way since the beginning, and to litterally get there 39 dollar, very lowest level speakers and throw them up against some of harmon kardons top of the line is dirty 🤷♂️ if you are starting out you can fill all four doors and the dash with the prime series for 120 bucks and have a very clean, fairly loud mid and high game, then replace as you have funds. No hate man, your videos are my got too when I am looking for speakers, just gotta stand up for my boo, rockford , and my side B cerwin V. Keep up the videos, match models better...now show me a rockford power series against a kappa series and throw 150-200 watts at them, along with othe top shelf speakers and you'll be doing a huge favor to many O people 👍
It’s louder because it takes less power to push so it’s louder.I have those Jbl in my el camino running just off the head unit no amp and they sound amazing!!!
I would have liked to see the Orion XTR 69.3 6x9" i have installed them in a Kia Spectra 5 on a Pioneer GMD 8604 4ch amp @ 4ohm and was suprised at how loud they were overall the tweeters were crisp and clear they had a ton of mid bass im currently lookin at runnin 6 in my 2011 Taurus SHO id like to see the best of the best from this lineup next to the Orions
kappa's sound cleaner IMO. Problem is trying to judge off a recording, there's just to many variables like the head phones your using, the dac your using, if the mic has the ability to accurately pickup all frequencies, ect. Unless u have a sound both with crazy expensive mics
Next Pioneer TS-A6990F vs JBL GTO939 Premium , very interesting !!! Please bro : ))
Good match
I'm doing the jbl 6x9 in the back and pioneer 6.5 in the front, run by a pioneer 520w 4ch amp. Hoping it will scream.
Hey, would you rather pick RoFo, Alpine or JBL 6x9?
If I want to install this kappa 6x9, what 6x5 do U guys recommend to make a perfect match?
Any chamce you can compare the jbl to a jl audio c2-690tx 3 way speaker ? I'm undecided on which to get & I would very much appreciate it..
I have read the JBLS are 3 ohm you sure they are 4
yea clubs are 3 stadium are 2 ohm
Would you put four of these inside of a Toyota Camry or should I get two of the 6x5
I believe that jbl has a higher sensitivity, which is why you can get the Kappa to a higher RMS
Will you be pushing more bass at these speakers in the videos to come?
Yes open air run they jumping like subs lol
I installed the exact same Infinity 6x9’s in my car and I have JBL Component speakers in my doors. The Infinity speakers blow the JBL speakers away, in my opinion. Much richer and fuller mid bass. The JBL’s are way too bright and lack low end mids.
Im just wondering that the ohms of the infinity is rated for a 2 ohm load. If you have your head unit radio set up for 4 ohms which the Jbl is. It is going to be louder. If you have both speaker hooked up in series then that also will make a difference. Your speaker wire also may cause a smaller resistance which 4 ohms is smaller than 2 ohms. Study your audiophile book or ask a professional who uses actual measuring equipment.
2 ohm is lower than 4 Ohm. The two ohm speaker will potentially get twice as much power as the 4ohm speaker.
Those JBLs are a 2 Ohm speaker in the US market at least. I had to attenuate the tweeters on both my GX608C components and GC629 coaxials, which are a 2-way 6.5/6.75. If I were to do it over again I would have probably gone with the Infinity Kappas or References, but for $130 and $90 respectively, I saw it as better value for a 3 row crossover daily driver with only a factory head unit pushing MAYBE 35w per channel vs $400 for 2 pairs of Kappas or $600 for the Reference which honestly need more power and a cleaner signal. Even with the attenuation I have to tone down the treble and bass so they don't overpower the mids. On normal FM radio it sounds really good, but on CD you'd think you were in the studio.
3ohm
The tweeter button on the Kappa isn't working 🤦
JBL and Infinity are both engineered and manufactured by the same company too. It’s like comparing a Buick to a Chevrolet..
Still you can see the difference between those 2 speaker brands
ChristianQuency Vlogs definitely
Me gustan buena caridad y buen bajeo esta buenisimo vi tutoriales y comparación y infinity kappa.es el mejor pero lástima no hay en Perú 😢
Which Amp would work well witt this JBL GTO speaker? Or is it not necessary to use... Thanks!
An amp would not be "necessary", though recommended if you want to get the most of these speakers
17:17 jajajaja. Great video.
Please compare JBL GTO609 vs Infinity refrence components
were you feeding these the full 100 watts? dont think i heard it mentioned
Kappa is best in vocal clearty.jbl is louder in treble.
Are you running 4 ohms to a 2 ohm speaker because 4 ohms speaker to 4 ohm stereo will sound better than a 4 ohm stereo to 2 ohm speaker 🔊 to home so you can put more power in quotes more speakers.
Idk about you but i liked how the infinity sounded better. the jbl may have been louder but if you give the infinity some more power than you got a good pair of 6x9s.
this video here is May 2019...goes on to repeatedly say JBL killed the infinity, f150 gonna get new JBLs...then on a June 2020 video, he goes on to install a full infinity kappa front and rear in the f150...so loud and clear😂😂😂
haha I love that you said "my f150s gonna get jbl speakers now that was funny
I have been a pioneer for many years, pioneer 6903i, these JBLs are better at clarity? Generally they are better than Pioneer that I have ???
Yes JBls sound quality surprisingly good
I think its safe to say the tweeter button to the kappa is broken.
Jbl designed for car with no sub. Kappa is much cleaner and doesn't muddle up the instruments, expects the bottom end to be filled with a sub.
Its probably the Sensitivity when its above 90+ its louder
The kappas sound tinny to me. Ive had kappa components and they do as well. The JBLs are what im getting.
Jbl gto 6x9 vs alpine type r ??? Thats not a fair comparison you tested the jbl gto to a cheaper level alpine 6x9 try it with the alpine type r ...
You guys are the best
The GTO's and Kappas are the same speaker are they not?
Where you get your test music from?? 14:15
Can you do a comparison between Club 9630 vs GTO939 ? I have research the whole internet and no one can give me the quality difference between Club, GX and Gto.. i even contact Crutchfield but answer were vague. I own the 9630 but wanted advice switching to GTO if they're better
Id go with the GTO series for sure
i actually think its a way to make revenue thing. No one could tell me the difference either. you can get gto's on amazon, gx's in bestbuy and Club's at Crutchfield. just so somebody can say they have something different
Let's retailers be able to sell at different price points and run specials without price matching since they are 'different models'.
The JBL's just sound better and more efficient making better use of the power.
My thoughts efficiency.
You mean louder?
can you do those jbl vs pioneer TS-A6990F
Try the Soundqubed 6x9s. I think they are 60 or 70 a pair.