Good review mate. I have a burgie 650 09 model. I have owned and rode many bikes and scoots in my life. The burgie is something else. Would not swap it for anything else and may get another one once my burgie goes to scooter heaven.
I've got an '18 model 650 & it's the best bike I've had in 43 years of riding. That includes the BMW's I've had - an R1200RT, K1200LT & Several K100/1100's. Also had a Honda FJS600 Silverwing & a 400 Burgman. I wouldn't swap my 650 for anything else.
Cruise control is unfortunately the start button (Perhaps a little bit confusing, but the symbol is there) Power electric windscreen is there (It was one of the options available from that very far forward hidden button on the left & then once you cycle through the options it'll be the up/down button that was on-top
I drive a 2009 Burgman 400 since a year, but it lacks torque and acceleration for me, love everything else. I think I'll try to find a Burgman 650 to see if the torque and acceleration feels better
During the period the Burgman 650 AN Executive was sold in Australia it was in my opinion the benchmark for maxi scooters. I know the Aprilla 850 was bigger and the competition from BMW, Yamaha, Kymco and even Piaggio was to be considered but the Suzuki was better speced. The engine was plenty responsive and more powerful than the Yamah coupled with the CVT with manual and power options it was quick off the mark and could hold its own on the open road with other bikes. The manual option gave a 6th gear for increased fuel economy which was handy for long rides. There was plenty of storage in the dash and under the seat and a top box completed the rig. I know the T Max has more tech now and a bigger engine than earlier models but I expect that had the Burgman still been sold it would have had more tech perhaps even an electric reverse which would have been useful on a 260kg bike. I especially liked the electrically adjustable screen. Here is my review czcams.com/video/LzDg9MOaLHQ/video.html One thing I don't like about the T Max not having ridden it is the placement of the mirrors they are a long way from the rider and it looks like adjusting them while riding would be tricky but necessary if you took a pillion.
The Mercedes driver isn't an idiot, he just didn't see you because you were coming from the other side. Happened to me 50years ago too. Shot down a motorcyclist coming from across the street. A little more tolerance would be appreciated. Otherwise a very good presentation.
Dude, you were at fault because you came over into the next lane after pulling out from your stop. We will cut you some slack, you're not used to the new bike. But you shouldn't have been a dick towards that mercedes driver.
@@aaa111912 The foul language, attitude and finger gesture is something I would be ashamed to display in public, we all make mistakes. It's not nice when watching with your 7 and 9 year old Sons, at least that part of the video could have been edited out in my opinion. One reason I never allow my Kids watch youtube, 1 of many reasons.
The Burman 650 will spoil you. Most anything else has been a step down for me. Can't compare to a Gold Wing as any bike that big isn't practical for me as I'm vertically challenged. The 650 though. Wow!
The burger with the lot was the best maxi then BMW but they didn’t continue to make them the TMax is king because it’s the only one that is available and evolved the one you tested was another older model as well the new one has a TFT screen
The Tmax has the same issue a lot of "hyped" brands like Iphone/apple have. They are overhyped and are a symbol of "status". I've had a Tmax 560 and it was performing really well but I still ended up trading it in for the Forza 750. The Honda Forza is at a lower price for overall more performance. Anyways at the end of the day all the high end scooters perform amazing and it comes down to personal preference but in my opinion the Tmax is no longer the "king" of scooters in this current year.
I own an 08 Executive. I recently test rode a T-Max, and I must say I was not at all impressed. I found it to be a nice bike, but it’s way overpriced, and wayyyy overrated. I’ll take my Burgman all day long and twice on Sundays. My Burgman is much torquier, much more comfortable, and more user friendly.
to me yamaha is alot better loads of after market parts and u can unlock them and boos ttheir performance by alot while they handle alot better its like comparing a bmw car to an bentley i feel like ths uzuki is just more luxurious but u cant do any aftermarket stuff with it
The yamaha has a motorcycle frame the Burgman has a scooter chassis ( no swing arm =pivot point in middle of wheelbase ) Yamaha is a poor handling motorcycle . ?The burgman even worse for going fast = agility . BUT the burgman is super plush /soft comfy . Burgman for me as its a scooter and rides like a good scooter . yamaha neither fish nor foul
Took me two minutes of watching this to realise you’re so biased towards the Bergman so much so you’d think you’re getting paid to talk down the king (tmax). In the real world the tmax is on another planet compared to the Bergman it wipes the floor with it.
No mate, I am not biased. The Tmax is superior when it comes to handling and sporty riding whereas the Brugman is better at being a scooter, plush ride, lots of storage and overall smoothness. They are like flavours of icecream some like Chocolate, some like Vanilla. There is no right answer, it depends on your preference.
@@Romiman1hi I am between the burgman and the BMW 650gt. Both second hand.bmw 2016 and the burgman 2017. Will travel / tour with my wife. Amy suggestions on both? Thanks
@@rainergieringer7600 Also: In Summe würde ich dann eher zum BMW tendieren. Der ist etwas leichter, kräftiger und flotter und hat ein deutlich stabileres Fahrwerk. Der Suzuki ist aber auch alles andere als schlecht. Seine E-Vario* und die Nasskupplung* arbeiten feiner, der Motor läuft erheblich ruhiger. *BMW nur Fliehkraft-Vario und simple Trockenkuppl. Die E-Vario des Suzuki hat allerdings den großen Nachteil, dass ein Defekt (Riemenriss) meist einen wirtschaftl. Totalschaden bedeutet. Ich würde es auch von Preis und Händlernähe abhängig machen. Bin beide lange gefahren (Suzuki fast 10 Jahre, BMW 8 Jahre). Abgesehen von den immensen Gewichten sehr spaßige bequeme Fahrzeuge, die so manchem Motorradfahrer ein ungläubiges Staunen entlockten...
Good review mate. I have a burgie 650 09 model. I have owned and rode many bikes and scoots in my life. The burgie is something else. Would not swap it for anything else and may get another one once my burgie goes to scooter heaven.
Yes Sir, same with me.
I agree❤
650 bergman executive...is a Beast😊😊😊
I've got an '18 model 650 & it's the best bike I've had in 43 years of riding. That includes the BMW's I've had - an R1200RT, K1200LT & Several K100/1100's. Also had a Honda FJS600 Silverwing & a 400 Burgman. I wouldn't swap my 650 for anything else.
Me neither. This is my favourite bike in 20+ years of riding
Cruise control is unfortunately the start button
(Perhaps a little bit confusing, but the symbol is there)
Power electric windscreen is there
(It was one of the options available from that very far forward hidden button on the left & then once you cycle through the options it'll be the up/down button that was on-top
My KYMCO 500 EXCITING is no crotch rocket, but very comfortably long distance.
I drive a 2009 Burgman 400 since a year, but it lacks torque and acceleration for me, love everything else. I think I'll try to find a Burgman 650 to see if the torque and acceleration feels better
I agree my 650 burgman is awesome !
I want to see one in America 🇺🇸
But, for now I'm Loving my Suzuki Burgman 400
I've ridden them both and let me tell you, the 650 is as perfect as you can get.
The New Piaggio bv400 has very plush ride and gear acceleration . Best in class imho owned all
Do not forget that on the burgman you have the Power button 🚀
Burgman is very beast
During the period the Burgman 650 AN Executive was sold in Australia it was in my opinion the benchmark for maxi scooters. I know the Aprilla 850 was bigger and the competition from BMW, Yamaha, Kymco and even Piaggio was to be considered but the Suzuki was better speced. The engine was plenty responsive and more powerful than the Yamah coupled with the CVT with manual and power options it was quick off the mark and could hold its own on the open road with other bikes. The manual option gave a 6th gear for increased fuel economy which was handy for long rides. There was plenty of storage in the dash and under the seat and a top box completed the rig. I know the T Max has more tech now and a bigger engine than earlier models but I expect that had the Burgman still been sold it would have had more tech perhaps even an electric reverse which would have been useful on a 260kg bike. I especially liked the electrically adjustable screen. Here is my review czcams.com/video/LzDg9MOaLHQ/video.html One thing I don't like about the T Max not having ridden it is the placement of the mirrors they are a long way from the rider and it looks like adjusting them while riding would be tricky but necessary if you took a pillion.
More weight = better handling in heavier wind a + for myself love my burgman!
Btw at 8min You jumped into the left lane improperly...you had to stay in the right lane...the car was fine!!
The Mercedes driver isn't an idiot, he just didn't see you because you were coming from the other side. Happened to me 50years ago too. Shot down a motorcyclist coming from across the street. A little more tolerance would be appreciated. Otherwise a very good presentation.
I was certain that I was going to be on the road. That's why the profanity. Sorry about that
i agree with you .he was a bit hard on that car driver.
Dude, you were at fault because you came over into the next lane after pulling out from your stop.
We will cut you some slack, you're not used to the new bike. But you shouldn't have been a dick towards that mercedes driver.
@@aaa111912 The foul language, attitude and finger gesture is something I would be ashamed to display in public, we all make mistakes. It's not nice when watching with your 7 and 9 year old Sons, at least that part of the video could have been edited out in my opinion.
One reason I never allow my Kids watch youtube, 1 of many reasons.
Totally agree , road rule you go to the closest lane then move across , the merc was in the right @@notexpatjoe
I have to say if you are so close to cars that you need your mirrors pulled in you are too close.... 🙂 Thank you for your videos
The pulling in of mirrors is more of a safety thing. It appears closer in the videos than you actually are, you get used to the width.
Thoughts between 650 exec burger and kymco ak 550?
I call them Twisticles
The Burman 650 will spoil you. Most anything else has been a step down for me. Can't compare to a Gold Wing as any bike that big isn't practical for me as I'm vertically challenged. The 650 though. Wow!
Yes! 100% agree with you. I don't ride my ZX14R anymore
I ❤ this review as I’m a huge scooter fan.
BMW c400GT is my chariot 😂
You may as well get a real bike for that Price
Test ride the Burgman 650
@@rockyp3917you can’t buy them anymore tho
just ride the Burgman with power mode ON. its a totaly diferent bike
15k well that ends the discussion.
15k AUD but that was new, you can pick a used one from 5k.
The burger with the lot was the best maxi then BMW but they didn’t continue to make them the TMax is king because it’s the only one that is available and evolved the one you tested was another older model as well the new one has a TFT screen
Review a kymco ak550 they sound awesome 👍
I will call the dealership and see if the have one
Great ride, however I’m questioning those good lookin motorcycle boots???
The Tmax has the same issue a lot of "hyped" brands like Iphone/apple have. They are overhyped and are a symbol of "status". I've had a Tmax 560 and it was performing really well but I still ended up trading it in for the Forza 750. The Honda Forza is at a lower price for overall more performance. Anyways at the end of the day all the high end scooters perform amazing and it comes down to personal preference but in my opinion the Tmax is no longer the "king" of scooters in this current year.
I own an 08 Executive. I recently test rode a T-Max, and I must say I was not at all impressed. I found it to be a nice bike, but it’s way overpriced, and wayyyy overrated. I’ll take my Burgman all day long and twice on Sundays. My Burgman is much torquier, much more comfortable, and more user friendly.
I couldn't have used better words to describe it.
What a load. The tmax is king for a reason. It always has been the king.
to me yamaha is alot better loads of after market parts and u can unlock them and boos ttheir performance by alot while they handle alot better its like comparing a bmw car to an bentley i feel like ths uzuki is just more luxurious but u cant do any aftermarket stuff with it
To me, the Yamaha is more like sport touring, the Suzuki is just for touring and heavy.
The burgman is hard to beat. The only one in the market is better than burgman is Honda forza or xadv 750 due to the dct transmission I think.
Absolutely, the xadv feels faster and more agile but it has no way near the comfort and plush ride experience of the Burgman.
Honda Forza 750 is maybe better/best
Mine is a2009
try the forza 750
May I ask what your job is?
No, you may not. I don't want to disclose my personal details here.
The yamaha has a motorcycle frame the Burgman has a scooter chassis ( no swing arm =pivot point in middle of wheelbase ) Yamaha is a poor handling motorcycle . ?The burgman even worse for going fast = agility . BUT the burgman is super plush /soft comfy . Burgman for me as its a scooter and rides like a good scooter . yamaha neither fish nor foul
I was thinking you was on the wrong side of the road until I saw your British flag
Yes indeed, here in Australia we have right hand drive.
Take it to proper road conditions right away when testing. Honda makes a 750, the Integra
Its tobad...you cant buy one...new..anymore😢
Unfortunately
And i thought us americans couldn't drive lol
Took me two minutes of watching this to realise you’re so biased towards the Bergman so much so you’d think you’re getting paid to talk down the king (tmax). In the real world the tmax is on another planet compared to the Bergman it wipes the floor with it.
No mate, I am not biased. The Tmax is superior when it comes to handling and sporty riding whereas the Brugman is better at being a scooter, plush ride, lots of storage and overall smoothness. They are like flavours of icecream some like Chocolate, some like Vanilla. There is no right answer, it depends on your preference.
I own the 2016 BMW 650 GT. I believe my scooter is better handling than both of those scooters.
To the Burgman: absolutely Yes. (Have had a 2003 Burgman and a 2013 C650GT).
@@Romiman1hi I am between the burgman and the BMW 650gt. Both second hand.bmw 2016 and the burgman 2017. Will travel / tour with my wife. Amy suggestions on both? Thanks
@@rainergieringer7600 German/Deutsch?
German :)@@Romiman1
@@rainergieringer7600 Also:
In Summe würde ich dann eher zum BMW tendieren. Der ist etwas leichter, kräftiger und flotter und hat ein deutlich stabileres Fahrwerk.
Der Suzuki ist aber auch alles andere als schlecht. Seine E-Vario* und die Nasskupplung* arbeiten feiner, der Motor läuft erheblich ruhiger.
*BMW nur Fliehkraft-Vario und simple Trockenkuppl.
Die E-Vario des Suzuki hat allerdings den großen Nachteil, dass ein Defekt (Riemenriss) meist einen wirtschaftl. Totalschaden bedeutet.
Ich würde es auch von Preis und Händlernähe abhängig machen.
Bin beide lange gefahren (Suzuki fast 10 Jahre, BMW 8 Jahre).
Abgesehen von den immensen Gewichten sehr spaßige bequeme Fahrzeuge, die so manchem Motorradfahrer ein ungläubiges Staunen entlockten...
Kymko. and symko.boss