What's The World's Best Overlander? Land Cruiser vs Sequoia vs Sprinter 4X4 Off-Road Challenge!
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- čas přidán 27. 06. 2024
- ( www.TFLcar.com ) The world of overlanding has exploded in popularity in recent years. For those looking to get into the life, an obvious choice for an overloading rig is the Toyota Land Cruiser, but is it the best choice? We compare it against the new Toyota Sequoia TRD Pro and Mercedes-Benz Sprinter 4x4 off-road to find out.
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I don’t care if anybody calls the Sequoia outdated, it is a very reliable SUV. If I were to take a trip up to the Arctic Ocean and back, I’d take a Sequoia.
I have a 18 Sequoia TRD Sport. I picked up in March 2019 with 13k miles for under 46k. The only difference between it and the TRD Pro are the Fox shocks, front skid plate and badges. It has been the best vehicle i've owned. I'm just at 59k miles now. Its been driven to Colorado Springs from Houston a few times, up in the snow in Southern Colorado and trek through soggy mud in Texas. Towed trailers and been my home away from home(with 2nd and 3rd row folded). The simplicity of the vehicle(plus 2nd row captain chairs) was a big plus. Glad to see it hold up against the Land Cruiser.
May I ask what of MPG you are getting?
@@TheGbizaille Highway 17.5-18,
City 13-14
Heyy Another Houstonian! Bro thats like 15 hours of driving, crazyyy
Michael Vela Same I have a 2012 limited and it’s been holding up with around 400k km
I have a 2006 Sequoia Limited 4wd with 2nd row captain chairs as well. Such a great all around vehicle.
I've driven 2 Mercedes Sprinters daily for work over a span of 5 years. Both were the least reliable vehicle's I've ever seen. Both were constantly in the shop EVERY month like clock work, both engines failed within 3 years of the purchase date. Repairs are ungodly expensive. Last vehicle in the world I would pick for an overlander.
Just a little correction guys, the Land Cruiser has an 8 speed transmission... nice review!!!
Agreed, so does its sister SUV, the LX570.
Yes it does.
Brian Lee Same truck almost exactly, the Lexus just has a more refined interior and decor deferent lower body panels. Complete overkill on the part of the Lexus.
All Toyota off-roaders have so many aftermarket features arts available, that many companies simply survive on selling Landcruiser parts in places like Australia and Asia
Was going to correct them on that, but you got to it first👍
This episode was pretty nice and funny especially when you guys were in the Sprinter🤣🤣
Land cruiser got an 8 speed in 2016
It's only got a 6 speed everywhere else in the world.
@@aussieoffroadnut1109 The actual one they're reviewing has 8. So Tommy was wrong.
@@entreptiles you're right. I don't know why Toyota don't put the 8 speed with the other engines. It seems only with the 5.7 V8. In Aus you have to buy a Lexus for over $140,000 to get the 8 speed.
@@aussieoffroadnut1109 6AT can sell well why would you bring new trans to the same vehicle. I notice this trend when Toyota want to make the most profit where the same vehicle can be sold without new engineering.
#reliable and bulletproof said it like 20 times...
The Sprinter looks like it will tip over sideways any moment.
Will it, though?
Ur right.
It looks startled...😳
That Landcruiser is beautiful. I wish I could afford it🤷🏻♂️
Jesse Mares it looks pretty average imao
It looks rubbish it looks like it is from 2000s
@@handcuffed302 Still beautiful... old doesn't mean ugly.
The father and son bonding is amazing. Having fun doing what they love and making great memories. Roman and Tommy make a good team. 👍
Nathen sitting in the back of the Merc. was to funny. He was "shacked not stirred". ;O)
You guys are so fun! The scenes in the van were hilarious!!
Crawl control engaged, “Take my hands off the wheel” lol
I’m with Nathan! Fun video fellas!
Thanks.
Land cruiser got my vote.
Norm T but do u see escalade around the world?
Norm T haha not comparable
Imagine a TRD pro land cruiser ?
Norm T GM vehicles are junk if compared to Toyota. Why do think LC is sold world wide and not the Escalade?
I loved my 2006 Sequoia, loved back window! And waiting 2030 model 😂
The best overland vehicle is one that doesn’t drain your bank account, has good aftermarket support and has parts readily available wherever you travel. No sense in spending all your money on a vehicle and the modifications if you can’t take time off to actually utilize it. The terrain you will be conquering is also an important consideration in regards to what axle type (IFS or straight) you should be targeting. You can then get into the nitty gritty of payload capacity, fuel economy, etc.
For some, a lifted Subaru Forester checks all the boxes. For others, it is a well-equipped Land Cruiser. For others its a well-outfitted Sprinter van. Don’t get caught up in the hype of what is hot or popular. Look at vehicles in your budget, determine the gear you’ll need (lift kit, tire sizes, skid plates, auxiliary fuel tanks, cargo management solutions, recovery points, etc) and make informed purchases from there. If you are unsure about the platform or what gear you’ll need, consult with a reputable vehicle outfitter who can make recommendations depending on your use case.
I would also stress that it’s important to buy the vehicle and USE IT for a few months or a dozen trips to see what you really need. I made the mistake of building up a Subaru Crosstrek and after a 10 day excursion across the Northeast and Canada, I realized it didn’t have the cargo capacity, horsepower, or off-road capabilities for the terrain I wanted to attack. If I had spent more time with the vehicle beforehand, I would’ve realized the shortcomings I had with it and moved to a different platform. A few years later after selling the Crosstrek, I’m working with a Lexus GX470 which suits my needs much better.
Obviously you can not afford one ...great confession ,
Toyota products all the way I have a 4Runner and a tundra and I love them
"When they do the next generation of this... in 2030 or whatever." lolol
rumours are that will come out 2027
Actually it will be for the 2023 model year according to Toyota business insider. So in 2 years assuming of course they release it in 2022 as a 2023 model year
Such an underrated jab
I was looking for this comment!😂😂. Ya hate to hear it l, but it’s the truth. SMH
Sprinter 4X4 maintenance and reliability nightmare NEVER AGAIN !
Thanks for that information.
Hey Tommy, how hard was it to not say "you can live in a van down by the river"?
hard ;)
"...TRD wheels which do nothing but look really cool!".
You killed me three!
I like the video guys. The Land Cruiser has 8 forward gears.
Thanks for the heads-up on this!
Now I want to take my first gen Sequoia Limited 4WD off road. That looks fun!
you're wrong you can get the Sprinter with the MBUX like in the new A-Class or GLB
My 2020 has mbux, can confirm.
It’s kind of unfair that they didn’t even mention the options it has, which are better than Toyota imo.
MBUX...?
@@Sig721Tau It's a fancy touch screen system.
@@DanDan-tt6gv yeah
Glad to see everyone having fun once in awhile. I needed a break from exactly 30 second fuel top offs and calculators! I'll take the Sequoia, but with a locker. I know thee don't have them yet, but I'd have that handled. Great video TFL!!
ARB has them
I find disabling traction control when in 4WD makes for a better off road experience.
The Sequoia looks like a nice truck...thanks for the video.
The wild head-bobbing in the Mercedes reminded me of Will Ferrell and Chris Kattan's characters from SNL and Night at the Roxbury. I expected Roman and Nathan to start saying "Him? Me? Me? Him?............"
Land cruiser would be the greatest SUV ever made if they gave it a fuel efficient option and a $15,000 lower starting price
A great comparison. Thanks for the video.
New Gen Land Cruiser: *turns on heated steering wheel, 4LO, crawl control*
Me and my 80 series: halfway up the hill already
The same with my Rexton RX270xdi 5 speed manual 🤣😂
Omg I started laughing when I saw the sprinter 😂😂😂😂😂
I'm from Germany and here in the Mountains they're often used for bringing tourists up the mountain especially in snow. of course the tires are modified.
Yeah, then you saw the 4L range and the central diff locker.
Hi guys, I love your channel!!! Just a video suggestion for y'all. You guys should put a tundra on your slip test and test out the auto lsd feature vs a real locker, since Toyota stands behind it saying they don't need lockers when they have the auto lsd. Keep it up guys doing great!
As a owner of Sequoias of both gens and drove a Land Cruiser to overland in Sri Lanka, at the end of the day I would say
the best overlander is your current whatsoever car.
You don't have to spend $$$/overbuild to enjoy overloading/cross country road trips.
I think turning the Mercedes into an off road, off grid, house-on-wheels would be a great project. Turn it into a 4-season livable overlander. Make sure to get Andre involved.
#tfloverlander
I agree
German cars are just endless money pits
Or, *I can buy a used first gen sequoia for 5 grand, and buy a BIG tiny home for 25 grand*. it is still cheaper and will still *last longer* then the sprinter 4x4. No work involved, just *play*.
also, i you still want to put in the effort, build the tiny home.
Love the Sequoia!!!!. Hopefully I can buy one some day, wanted to buy one last year on March, but it was over 62k brand new. I ended up getting a brand new 2019 Toyota Tacoma TRD Off Road 4x4 fully equipped, love it too, can't wait to start building it up!!!.
I enjoyed the video and I'm sure a lot of other people did.. great job guys
Looking good Nathan the weight loss is showing keep it up!
A great fun video of you all 👍
Love the light refresh on the L/C and Sequoia. Also, the Sprinter is one of my favorite diesel only powered Mercedes-Benz cars ever.
Great video guys! How did the TRD exhaust sound on the Sequoia?
NATHAN! Nice to see you back in the videos.
My youth group took a sprinter 4x4 down to Baja California MX from Salem Oregon. The engine was a little gutless with a full load but man did it keep trucking.
I would love a Land Cruiser but for the price of a new one you can get a great used Sequoia AND a new Wrangler Rubicon.
Or a brand new Sequoia and a brand new Corolla
Say what
Late to the party here, but would it be interesting and useful to do a comparison of the 1st-gen Sequoia vs. a circa 2001 Land Cruiser? Or you could call it "Overlanding for the not-so-rich and famous" and include whatever: Tahoe, Land Rover, Range Rover, Unimog etc
Great video!
Glad to see a sprinter 4x4! I would like to see a 4x4 Sprinter vs AWD Transit comparison. And Ike and MPG runs.
Imagine a TRD pro Land Cruiser ? 🤯😍.
That would be literally the best SUV ever created
Well, these guys created and customized a Land Cruiser TFL Pro.
Look up the GR Landcruiser, you're in for a treat
9:06 Look at all those blank buttons, and the van is already expensive.
Who knew watching a $90,000 truck drive 4 miles per hour would be interesting?
Put a set of brand new Toyo Open Country AT III's on that Sequoia and it will go to 98.5% of places that anyone would take their family overlanding.
I have had phenomenal luck with vehicles and I LOVE my Nissan Pathfinder to death, but the best vehicle I've ever driven (and my Holy Grail or Powerball Lotto vehicle) is a Toyota Sequoia. Rented one for a long weekend and had 0 complaints. Even the gas mileage was better (for a 6,000lb vehicle) than I expected, in mixed driving, with the A/C on constantly.
Sequoia essentially hasn't changed in about 12 years, and that's a GREAT thing! No engine start/stop. No cylinder deactivation. No E-parking brake. No push button transmission shifter. No 50" screen. It's ALL killer. NO filler.
Those Toyotas MUST have about 75 - 100 gallon gasoline tanks or you’ll be filling up every 225 miles. I have a 2016 Sequoia, I know. I’d take the Sprinter in empty van model and make a full time living RV with baffroom.
The best overlander challenge should be done with and jeep xj, mitsubish Montero, chevy blazer, Toyota 4runner and ford explorer, and have a $4000 dollar spending limit. When you go to overland expo you don't see to many 40-50k vehicles being used to drop into mud bogs and rut , and grind along rocks in Moab.
Bob Reighnheart this os around the globe not moab haha
@@alyx2yonde301 ok, i was using Moab to make a point because they like to use Moab UT as a testing ground on this channel..
The land cruiser is straight up stealth wealth. So unassuming.
Most people that spend 60k on a vehicle want it to look like its that expensive. The LC looks like a 35k SUV toos.
Tommy for the win! Didn’t know anything about those. Seen 100 videos on the toyota suv.
The same top range land cruiser I have has a adaptive suspension which give automatic height lift in 4 low .. makes it much more cape able .. not to mention on road stability and power modes.
Imagine 12 people, puking and farting in that Mercedes VAN? Then you will know the funny side of offroading in that contraption.
They say the sprinter has no luxury amenities but it actually offers a bigger touch screen than both Toyotas, heated seats, heated steering wheel, huge gage cluster , adaptive cruise control, etc.
Land Cruiser all the way.
@@normt5463 WHAT? Why does any of that matter? The LC is designed to be an over land/off road vehicle. The Escalade is designed to be a showy Luxury vehicle to cruise the streets.
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There is a heritage edition
The Land Cruiser 70 is a lot better than the 200. It has a 4.5L diesel V8 for better range and safer refueling and is available as a pickup.
Nice video!
I think driving the Sprinter to Mexico will be challenging to find clean Diesel fuel with low sulfate.
Tommy looked like he was about to cry when the two of them started screwing him over. 🤣🤣🤣
If it’s me, I’m going with the unseen 4th option, the 4Runner TRD PRO.
All seriousness though, I would say the Sequoia TRD PRO and used the saved money further upgrade the tires and install a rear locker or TrueTrac.
The other thing about the land cruiser if you look underneath it is that all the drivetrain components and suspension linkages are significantly beefier than sequoia and tundra parts. The fox suspension and off road tires are cool but those are much easier to change than the entirety of the drivetrain.
I think the LandCruiser and some Sequoia suspension parts are actually the same thing. Toyota classifies both as Heavy duty..
Not only does the Sequoia not have a rear locker, it's also and independent rear! It's a minivan with low range. I can't believe Toyota is still selling this thing, just like the Tundra it's at least 2 generations behind. Toyota really phones it in with their 4x4's - the Sequoia, Tundra, and 200 series all date from 2008, and the 4Runner isn't much better at 2010. Nathan hit the nail on the head with the 2030 comment!
Also, I had no idea you could the Sprinter with a low range, that's so cool! Put some KO2's on that thing and it would have done even better. #vanlife
Toyota overlanding: Land Cruiser, 4Runner, Tacoma, Sequoia, Tundra.
The TRD Pro 4Runner is a much better off road vehicle than the TRD Pro Sequoia
Love the Top Gear vibe. Better than the real show haha
I'm from Germany and here in the Mountains they're often used for bringing tourists up the mountain especially in snow. of course the tires are modified.
The only thing I don't like about the LC is the back seats folding. It would be nice if they can fold like the sequoia.
The TLC has an 8 speed automatic transmission.
I have both a ‘14 Land Cruiser and Sprinter, both work fine on 60% dirt roads/muddy roads.
By the time I was 1:40 into this video I knew I’d like it
You guys made me laugh while violently rocking sideways in that sprinter 😂 😂 😂 😂!
I would take the sprinter, loaded with all its wonderful high tech options ( I used to have one, but with a 4cyl, and non 4x4). I have a huge family, and it was amazing packing it with necessities, while carrying 12 adults and children comfortably. Also, I was able to get 30mpg! I had to give it up because it was too big for everyday use, and now I just drive a suv, and my family had to bring their own cars when we travel😔.
Very good off-road comparison! Only Sprinter has not an Automated Manual but a classic torque converter (Mercedes 7G-tronic)
Top gear like.....great video
The LC is awesome, but 90k, the MB is cool but probably not reliable, and the Sequoia is just right for 98 %of us who want a quality, the ability to make it through the snow to get to work. And....parts are cheaper
get a '08 CPO 4wd sequoia for 13k and put offroad tires on it. Would be literally the same.
oawefajweee *literally*
Agreed, except I haven't seen a single CPO Sequoia that old. And every Sequoia in that price range has 160K+ miles. It amazes me what people will try and sell a Sequoia for with over 200K miles, some are still ask $20K...
oawefajweee in my region, it’s very hard to even find a sequoia. And each one is still over priced! Probably because they are bulletproof! (‘11 sequoia platinum)
Nice reviewaside from missed 8spd trans in LC and also no discussion on the fact that the Land Cruiser has a solid axle and Sequoia has independent rear suspension Which is less desirable for an off-road vehicle. Really the Gen 1 Sequoia makes a better off-road Overlander
I have been Over-landing for 20 years now. I'm looking to build out a new one (well old). I'm looking at a 2004 Toyota Sequoia. The advantage the 1st Gen has over the new one is:
-Solid rear axle (Big advantage)
-It can be lifted higher
-A bit smaller and lighter than the newer ones
-A lot cheaper than new
-Much cheaper than a Land Cruiser (nearly the same size and dimension, Sequoia is 10" longer)
I had a 4Runner, Cherokee XJ and a Grand Cherokee. All great off road but I need more room.
I am only starting to look into over-landing and considering the Sequoia too for space and price.
I am just not sure how much would be too many miles o n an older vehicle.
Alwyn Schoeman - My personal experience and preferred mileage would be nothing over 150k miles. Yet it also depends on how well it was maintained. They have impeccable reliability and I have seen many over 250k miles running strong.
If you find one, take it to a good mechanic to have him evaluate it.
The dash in the Sprinter is 'my kind of vehicle dash', actually I love that van too,..what a 'rig' to take my ATV and be able to 'live' in it too for a weekend in the outback!
I heard you Nathan,..when you said UNIMOG! I'd sure like to see a TFL review on a Unimog, the absolute ideal off roading vehicle from Mercedes Benz,.bar NONE!
Nice off-road, probably could do that trail on my Honda Civic )))
You could get a 4Runner ORP for 1/2 of and add $20,000 of shocks, tires, lift, bumpers, skid and sliders. And even a supercharger to get ~350 hp. Then you could enjoy your over landing with the 20K plus change and still be ahead.
I’m pretty partial to the gx470 but both those Toyota’s are 😍😍
y'all were really rocking y'all heads in that van 😂😂
The bumper 2 bumper music towards the beginning was suuuper weird
Nice job 👍
Land cruiser, hands down.
Norm The LC still has my vote.
Norm T this isn’t really relevant though
@@normt5463 Well, I mean repairs come in expensive as well...so you basically save a lot of money on these with a LC
@@normt5463 Er yes but thats with every vehicle. If you damage something, the repair has to be paid. A mirror has nothing to do with reliability, thats like saying you crashed your bumper so your car isn't reliable.
@@normt5463 I just found the mirror glass on the Toyota Parts website for 400 bucks (even for the 2018 model!). So TFL got pretty much ripped off.
The lack of Sprinter options that you are complaining about are available. All of the vehicles are passenger vehicles and not kitted out for Overlanding around the world. The Sprinter because of its size and height may not be the best off-road but by far the best for living off-grid in its fully equipped form.
Hey guys love the videos. A question or maybe a suggestion. Is it possible to get Ford, Toyota and the gang to let y’all compare and test base model 4cylinder 4 door trucks under 30k? Like 25-28k? I can’t seem to find any real reviews or comparisons for the cheap versions. I love the TRD pro and Lariate but I can’t spend 40-50k. Looking to buy a ranger or Tacoma or maybe frontier but a basic 4 door in about 8 months. Trying to get all the research and tips I can.
At 10:15 they needed some Drowning Pool playing in the background “let the bodies hit the floor!”.
for sequoia tandem offroad provides a rear locker for it. its way awesome than all the other overlanders in this video
I don't understand their issue with the Sequoia? The hill climb / hill descent control do nothing than a good driver couldn't do. The missing rear locker is a fair point, but again, for this type of overlanding, the Sequoia was not even breaking a sweat. Having offroaded my 2008 Toyota Sequoia, I can say from first hand experience is that this vehicle absolutely smashes expectations to the upside, but on-road and off.
I think it would be good to describe the difference between locking dfs etc. verses vtrac yadda yadda also about different terrain and when those differences matter.
8:29 gives it more power. Pump it up boys
Biggest problem in " overlanding" is overweight vehicles. Payload on sprinter is best in class. The Jeep Gladiator suffers from very poor payload capabilities.
This van used doesn't have the optional Kuhmo's, its got the crappy Continentals. It's also very poorly optioned.
For my clients we are typically in the 65-70K USD for Sprinter 2500 144"/170". Heated, powered, swivel seats. 10" MBUX with sat nav and sirius XM. LED headlight and tail lights ( a serious must) as well as fog lights. All the 4x4 options, or you go IGLHAUT with real lockers. No silly rooftop A/C like the one shown or passenger van because glass is very heavy and makes the van a greenhouse. 360deg camera, makes it even better for overlanding or parking for that matter. Lots of companies make bolt on parts for the Sprinter as well that even a backyard mechanic can tackle. Plus they have TourRIG in their backyard who designs and builds vans like this every day.
Tommy, the year Land Cruiser in this video has an 8 speed transmission. The 15 and earlier had the 6 speed.
Funrunner is best v8 powa and a plethora of aftermarket askesories
There was no substance on this video at all. I have a 2011 sequoia and I wanted to see something for real. All I got was the Landcruiser drives for you. 🤷♂️
Had to double check at 10:12 so it was not someone at the door 🤣
Nathan, your German rulez! 😂😂😂