World's best all-weather interceptor in its day: the Avro Canada CF-100 Canuck
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The CF-100 is Canada’s only domestically designed jet fighter to reach service and to be built directly to RCAF specifications. In its day it was a competitive all-weather interceptor. The Canuck protected Canadian airspace from the threat of nuclear armed Soviet bombers for over a decade. This is the story of its development and deployment.
Music:
Denmark - Portland Cello Project
Aircraft mentioned:
Vampire F.3
CL-13 Sabre
CF-100 Canuck
CF-101 Voodoo
CF-105 Arrow
Research sources:
www.cmp-cpm.forces.gc.ca/dhh-d...
www.bombercommandmuseum.ca/cf1...
www.canadianflight.org/content...
www.avroland.ca/al-cf100.html
www.aviastar.org/air/canada/ca...
www.rwrwalker.ca/caf_canucks.html
www.ejection-history.org.uk/Ai...
image-bank.techno-science.ca/d...
NORAD and the Soviet Nuclear Threat: Canada’s Secret Electronic Air War By Gordon A.A. Wilson
0:00 Introduction
1:08 Initial Development
2:38 CF-100 Mk 1 and Mk 2
4:26 CF-100 Mk 3
6:51 CF-103 and Transonic Speeds
7:36 CF-100 Mk 4
11:33 CF-100 Mk 5
13:14 Velvet Glove and Future Proposals
14:28 Operational History
20:02 Conclusion
#CF100 #CanadianAerospace #PolyusStudios - Věda a technologie
An incredibly personal documentary - practically a family history. My father was a back-seater on the CF-100 from the mid 50's until late 1967 when he was removed from flight status due to health issues. The only plane he flew in as an active duty crewman was the CF-100. I was born while he was stationed at Bagotville in 1957. One of my fondest memories was when I accompanied him one Saturday in 1967 when he had to go into St. Hubert to pick up some paperwork and he let me sit in "his" seat in "his" airplane and wear his oxygen mask (I'm sure it was strictly non-reg but I didn't know any better at the time). A real thrill for a 10 year old. I still remember the smell of the oxygen mask. Well done.
Wow!
Great documentary. In my shop I repair and restore the Orenda 10, 11, and 14 turbojet engines, for owners of the Sabre Mk 5 and 6.
It would be great if someone got a CF-100 back in the air.
I hope you get the contract to provide the engines for it.
It would indeed, but I don't see that ever happening...
Brooo I have a Canuck on display near my house near Pearson international in malton on Derry road and Goreway rd the airframe is in good shape u can come by have a look if u live in Toronto 😁😁 would love to get a coffee
I believe that the Air and Space Museum has a Canuck in flying condition, as are all the planes there.
The museum in Hamilton has an Airframe that's airworthy too I believe.
My father worked for AV Roe back in 1954 when they were making these birds. He was a pharmacist waiting for his papers to be recognised in Canada, but he had worked as a weapons chemist during the war, so he fit in pretty well at Avro.
To his amazement, there were metal parts of the plane which were cleaned off in methyl ether or some damn thing, the sort of chemical you'd normally have in a small bottle and use with a cotton swab, only they had a swimming pool full of it.
The result was that they had dozens of line workers who would be breathing this stuff for six or ten hours, get stoned out of their minds, set out to drive home, and pile up in mounds of wreckage on Malton roads outside the plant.
Major threat to public safety!
Dang. Back in the days before safety standards were a thing.
I’m American- but I loved this plane as a kid. I had a collection of plastic airplanes and I got one of these at the dentist office after a cleaning. It was always my commander’s plane 🤘
Why you say it like Americans could only like American made stuff? "I am american but...."
1Dave, unfortunately we Americans tend , as a whole, to be characterized as belittling others through a “if it wasn’t invented here”-it-must-suck-type belief system. In others words, some of us feel we actually have to confirm the intention of our statements when we pay a non-American a compliment!
I'm a Canadian. We are together and best friends.
By the way. If you ever get to touch one, you will see it was solid, like a Warthog.
I had one too, was it made by Aurora?
A bunch (6 per plant) of these Orenda engines are still in service as 7MW standby generators in two of Canada’s nuclear power plants!
MrPnhartley That's literally the coolest fact I've learned about Canada in 2020
My father flew this plane with 414... I recall living in Uplands when the base was active. Very sad what successive governments with no vision have done to stifle innovation and reduce the effectiveness of our Armed Forces.
Extremely embarrassing. All they can agree on is gender neutral uniforms what ever that means. My mother took me to the military hospital the day before a CF=100 crashed into it at Grostenquin (2 wing). We strut around the world puffing out our chest thinking that we matter. At this stage we're nothing but a dumping ground for the displaced from around the world jumping to the UN's orders.
I never knew the Canuck was so effective, or any details about it at all, for that matter. This video was very informative and very well made and presented, thanks so much.
Was an air traffic controller at RCAF Station North Bay in the late fifties. Under certain weather conditions the CF-100, doing a beacon letdown from 30 thousand feet, the rudder would freeze and the aircraft came down in a slow turn until the ice melted. Made for a higher toned conversation with pilots.
@@billfarley9167common problem?
Very thorough doc on a very important part of Canadian aviation history. Well done Brad.
Dawg he can’t even pronounce Avro correctly. What the fuck.
@@lildecc9300 I got this. Excuse me? (puts elbow pads on, no need for shin pads)
We Yanks were fortunate that the Arrow was canceled. Thirty-three Avro engineers and scientists were recruited and went on to help develop the Mercury, Gemini, and Apollo programs. While the loss of the Arrow was a dark period for Canada, it helped the US beat the Soviets to the moon. Some of us haven't forgotten the important contribution to the Space Race made by Canadians.
that's nice of you to say. Maybe its time to give back and help us build the Arrow
A Canadian pretending to be an American
The problem really is that it set a precedent. It basically told engineers that Canada doesn't have their backs and their best opportunities are in the States so they might as well go there. In Canada we call it the "Brain Drain" and it is still happening.
This is painful to watch because we could be doing what the swedes have been doing for decades. Impressive vid.
@@polyus_studios USA said to Canada you need give me your money instead of competing againest me for weapon businesses.
@@polyus_studios Diefenbaker was bullied by Eisenhower who ordered him to cancel the CF105 or he would proceed with the Columbia river damming without any treaty.
Prior to that, the Canadian government told Av-Roe not to be bothered with their Jetliner (Which flew 1 week after the Comet), because they would be too busy with the CF100 fighters.
@@polyus_studios Canada needs its own weapons industry and with all the high end metal works in canada, yall could produce some amazing tech. hints the CF-105
@JZ's Best Friend capitalist politicians. Politics is not an alien thing in capitalism.
@@JaneChristensen. when you idealize capitalism and its "competion" mantra. In any competition there will be only one winner and a lot of loosers, and everybody cannot be the winner. Competion in capitalism market is just one photo of he entire movie.
Excellent docu & narration.
A RCAF pilot still alive, Capt Bill "Turbo" Tarling who has flown both CF-100 & CF-101 said in a Flypast magazine (UK) interview in 2015, he loved the Canuck, was heartbroken to hear the Arrow cancelled (his Sqn was rumoured to be the first to receive the jets) and was impressed with the Voodoo. He did say although the Voodoos tiny wings had been bolted on for morale purposes (rcaf joke), it had one advantage over the Canuck in that it had instant cabin heat. The Canuck was plagued by cabin heat loss, that took years to diagnose, let alone fix. Many a night at 40,000ft would he put the Canuck on autopilot, stomp his muklad covered boots, and sit on his hands to warm them, then wiping the mist off the dials before his landing descent. With the Voodoo, he was promised on his training induction, instant cabin heat upon turning the heat rheostat. And thats what he got.
Wow someone knows their aircraft. Thanks for that, I belive it, it was a common complaint
Brad Gordanier there was a boom published that answered this
See the book.
marksandsparks Thank you for sharing Captain Tarling's recollections of the CF 101. The Voodoo's wings were indeed, small; but the 104 Starfighter's we're even smaller. At high speeds under certain conditions, the 104 ("man in a missile") was difficult to fly and became known as the "widow-maker, " because of the high frequency of crashes in training and NATO exercises.
@@polyus_studios Perhaps their approach is more, "your Canadian, why do you need cabin heat?"
The Sabre was beautiful.Saw the Golden Hawks as a kid in London Ontario
Built like a tank and capable of converting large amounts of jet fuel into noise.
@@polyus_studios Gravity is a hell of a drug
Yeah yeah gotta be a D-bag.
@@Pugiron You're right. Gravity is our downfall!
Just read your note in the intro. This is s superb production, I thought it was a rip from a professional production! I'm really enjoying your work - many thanks. Makes me proud to be Canadian -- quite an achievement, as I'm actually English and live in Europe! Well done
@@polyus_studios same here. I feel proud of our Canadian cousins ingenuity and skill from here in the UK
Many say it would have been more successful than the f86 sabre if it saw as much action as the sabre. Many Americans disagree but it could carry guided or unguided missiles, rader jamming equipment and had 8 machine guns. The sabre had only 6 machine guns and no missiles. It is an example of what Canada could have achieved if it continued to invest in the aviation industry.
Considering the F86 came earlier, it should be more successful.
It also had pods holding 6x20 mm and oh, Joy, 4x30 mm
I can't say I've ever seen anyone say such things and if I did, I'd ask them to share what they were smoking. I don't see how the Canuck could've held it's own against F-86s and MiG-15s.
My father took me to see the initial flight of the Black prototype CF-100 at was then called Malton Airport. I knew then I wanted to be a fighter pilot.
Did you become one? My father was, and I wanted to be one as well, but was told that my eyesight wasn't good enough and was given a prescription for glasses, by the same physician at the same appointment. Talk about adding insult to injury!
Got a pilots' medical at Cold Lake but like you, my eyesight was not acceptable at that time. Today, you CAN wear glasses and be a fighter pilot.
@@RockyAllenLane That's right! It's not so strict anymore. I think at the time (ca. 1982), I questioned the policy, and was told something like, "glasses don't give you complete 360-degree vision and could fog up or fall off your face," and as for contact lenses, "high g forces would warp them," or something like that. Not sure if BS or not (probably BS). Anyway, bad timing for us both I guess. Sorry for your disappointment.
Rocky - A whole bunch of young fellers wanted to become fighter pilot but only a very few made it.
My father was a navigator on these. He told me how they'd train to arm them with nuclear weapons- And the procedure was to throttle upwards, then when the plane was almost vertical to detach the bomb so the kinetic energy would mortar the bomb upward giving the CF-100's enough time to loop up and off away from the bomb.
He also worked later in the DEW line, apparently it was common that NORAD and Soviet radar stations would communicate with each other and test each others radar then tell them what they needed to fix hahaha.
Surprisingly good looking for such a chunky aircraft.
I can't help but think that if Avro had tried just a bit harder with the CF-103 design by tucking the engines in closer together in the fuselage they'd have ended up with something like a better-looking F-4 Phantom.
One of the camouflaged CF 100's ended up at Cranfield Institute of technology in the UK. I'm not sure what it's purpose was, but it was sold to ex RCAF pilot Ormond Haydon-Baillie around 1975. Not certified for flight and having no permits, OHB was expected to dismantle it at Cranfield for shipment to Duxford where it was to join his two airworthy T33 Silver Stars. Lo and behold, it arrived at Duxford in a single piece by, I believe, teleportation(!!) Upon the untimely death of OHB in the crash of Mustang, the CF100 became part of the Imperial War Museum collection and is on display.
This has to be the most depressing part of Canadian military history. Canada, if we never signed that treaty (fuc*ing Diefenbaker) we'd be world leaders in Avionics
Avionics??
@@StudeSteve62 the science that makes you fly
The same engineers helped put man on the moon. Brains were drained to that.
@@m1t2a1 So few know that NASA would not have been NASA if the displaced Canadian scientists, engineers etc who lost their jobs when Diefenbaker killed the Arrow project. Can you even imagine what A. V. Roe etc could have achieved if only that election had gone differently? The Maple Leaf rode with Apollo-11. Respect.
@@emomuzz5883 I agree. There are very few who realize that Canadians with slide rules put people on the moon.
I’ve been an avid warplane enthusiast my whole life but only recently travelled to the Canadian Warplane Heritage Museum. I was like a kid in a candy store; overwhelmed with excitement to see such beautiful machines in one place. It also solidified my pride in our Canadian armed forces, in particular our storied airforce. The highlight of my visit was speaking with a former CF-100 pilot while we were standing next to the very plane he once flew. He described in detail how they would scramble to intercept Soviet bombers in their CF-100’s. I needed to learn more and came across your channel. Thank you for creating context specific to Canada. It’s been a pleasure watching your videos.
That's great to hear! I'm a volunteer at the museum and I run the flight simulators. I'd recommend revisiting the museum at some point if you're interested in aviation. There's a new exhibit displaying WW1 and WW2 propaganda. And of course, Canadian Warplane Heritage is called Canada's flying museum for a reason, we fly many of our aircraft including the Lancaster, B-25, Dakota, Canso (Catalina), Tiger Moth and many other WW2 aircraft. This is mostly going on in the summer and lasts until October. You can check the museum's website (warplane.com) and find the flight schedule (subject to changes) which tells you what's flying on what days at what time. If you're in in seeing these beautiful aircraft fly make sure to check that out! Also you can buy a ride in any of these aircraft, which you can also book on the website. We'd love to have you back : )
@@rydersanderson8225 thank you for the suggestions! But since you mentioned them… Since my first visit I’ve come back with my son who is a Beaver Scout and we slept for the night under the wing of the DC-3 Dakota for the night-op. The kids (and the BIG kids) had an amazing time. I then returned to go for a ride in the de Havilland Chipmunk. It was incredible. I plan on making my way through all the planes at the museum! Thank you!
It's so sad to see a channel this awsome have so little subscribers. Great job! You sir have a new subscriber!
Me, too! Great Canadian aviation history.
My introduction to the CF-100 was on my first detachment to CFB Cold Lake where one was mounted on a pole in the center of the road, I was walking from our barracks to the hangar and had to stop and do a walk around. Interesting airplane.
Passed by a Canuck for every summer of the last three years at Connaught CTC but never truly appreciated it until I watched this video, awesome work.
The CF-100 was proposed as a Medium Attack Aircraft for the USAF in the 50s but lost to the Canberra Bomber
Canberra* and to be honest I can't blame them lol. The Canberra was a beautiful plane.
@@sirmuffincat6630 Yes it was. i was crew chief on the american version, B-57 for three years. They are all retired now! Got to service a Canberra passing through at transit.
@@karltonhall9625 There are still a few WB-57 flying for NASA. I just saw a video of one supporting the recent reentry of Crew Dragon from the ISS.
thanks used to watch these planes fly around North Bay when I was in high school.
Excellent, detailed, documentary. Thanks for posting.
Agreed. Very well done...
Excellent documentary for an aircraft I grew up with and loved!
Very comprehensive, thanks for your efforts.
Very informative, I enjoyed the video!
I remember seeing CF100 Canucks landing at Elmendorf AFB, AK back in 1973. They were never close enough to the MAC Terminal to get a good look at, but were a very interesting looking aircraft. I use to look for a Plastic model kit, but never found one.
At about 4:12, you say the crash was determined to have been caused by pilot error. The pilot ( Bruce Warren), was one of my identical twin uncles ( they flew Spitfires during WWII). I was told by my surviving uncle that the reason for the crash was finally determined to have been caused by a failure of the oxygen masks. Apparently, Avro only has two oxygen masks, which would be disassembled between flights, for cleaning, then reassembled, for the next test flight. Seems some part, or parts, were not reassembled correctly, and lack of oxygen caused the pilot (& observer?) to pass out.
I love your videos man. Canadian aviation fan here and someone who has worked in radio and television for years now - you do a great job. I learn something watching every one of these - keep at it.
This series is so well done. Enjoying them all. Well edited and the information is presented perfectly in context. The narrator’s voice is both contemporary but also has hint of those “hey day” film reels.
This is a really good video. well done
Well done. Can't say anything better than the below comments. Thank you for a peice of our, almost forgotten history. God Bless and keep these documentaries coming. Your channel stands out from the rest. Just gr8, thank you again.
Great videos man. Definitely Subscribed!
Great video, all new info to me...good work mate!
Excellent work, thank you
This was absolutely oustanding. The CBC should really buy this series from you and run vignettes again instead of the shit they have on now.
Very well done!
Thanks for a great history lesson on this beautiful aircraft. I remember the first time I saw one on a pedestal outside a museum as a kid I thought it looked so cool, and learned it was Canadian-built! It's sad, that they're mostly left to rot outside. I'd love to see one in pristine condition.
@@polyus_studios that's great to hear! I remember seeing that one sitting outside years ago, with the wings blistered with corrosion. It was really sad.
Always have watched you're Channel/Vids! Had a day off today, and binge watched every single one, just too make sure I hadn't missed any! Turns out I haven't missed one!
Great Channel, great Vids! Keep them coming! Great Work!
The Alberta aviation museum has a nice CF-100 parked outside. Too bad they dont show it the respect it deserves, nicely restored parked inside. Arguably one of the most important aircraft in their collection, and in Canadian history.
Wow... great content. thanks alot !
Great video. My dad was a Navigator on the CF-100 in 433Sq.
As a kid I would spend time climbing on one, since my father worked for DND (civilian). There was one on the base. The only problem was the MPs yelling at us to get off the planes, tanks and other vehicles around the base :)
Nic~~ My dad was from Welland Ontario stationed at St.Jean Quebec in the air force. I remember as a 8year old boy climbing in and out of a great bunch of decomissioned aircraft such as Avro Anson's~ B-24's~ Canso catboats~, and of course Canucks. Those are what memories are made of!
Ah Roger, we probably climbed the same aircrafts since my father worked at the language school in St-Jean (base and military colllege). I grew up near the mega.
Your channel is so bloody good 🍁
They have one on display in Hamilton. I have a lot of family there and we would often go to the museum because me and my grandma always loved looking at those old planes. I sat in the cockpit of this thing at that museum so many times growing up, always has a special place in my heart.
Exceptional video
Very nice documentary
Excellent video. Much appreciated. I was not familiar with the Canadian aerospace industry and I appreciate the education.
I love these vids!
The glory days of the Canadian aircraft Industry
Then something happened to us and we stopped dreaming of good / better / best and sadly settled for less than good and then starved our armed forces of funds to the point that planes don’t fly and ships don’t sail do the cost of fuel. 😪
After the mid-60s, the new and very expensive welfare state ate up all the available money. Oh and Canada just got lazy and totally dependent on the US for its defence (because letting Uncle Sam pay your way means more money for socialism).
Indeed. The helicopter fiasco, the old destroyers that we’re designed as half-submarines, the new frigates too low for the naval helicopters, the POS submarines bought from the UK, the pistol replacement program that never completes, Avro Arrow, rented tanks in Afghanistan, C-17 troubles, now the f35, the trucks that had side specific tires (and you only got 1 spare. If it was for the wrong side, you had to find another truck with the proper side you required), the see through all green combat uniforms, ... the soldiers are great and very competent, they have to make do and they stretch the equipment lifetime and capability. But the procurement system is f***ed up!
Nic Flatterie the type 26s are capable of landing chinooks and merlins if I’m not mistaken
@@nicflatterie7772 : I went to a Canadian training base once. All the military equipment was on display, but the BBQs were in a locked compound.
So the BBQs were more dangerous than our military equipment?
@@drewthompson7457 Well we really don't want the Moose more nervous than usual.
Very good. I really like the choice of music
I'm following this page now, I've never been interested in aviation but you have been able to catch my attention
well done.
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I have often wondered what Avro would have followed the CF 105 with.
Now I know the significance of the Avro Aero to Canadian aviation.. good documentary.
Interesting. Thank you 😃
Love the music in the back
Omg I live walking distance away from a monument dedicated for this amazing aircraft I was shocked at how many of these Canada made over 600 jets and 2000 engines locally from my area of malton mississauga 😁😁 golden days of Canadian aviation indeed if we kept up we would have had an aviation industry like France
I love the part where footage is shown of a Canuck gate guard; a wonderful jet!
@@polyus_studios I live in Calgary, and have seen the aircraft many times. It’s right outside the Bomber Command Museum, which is excellent!
The F-89 Scorpion and the CF-100 Canuck looked so much a like, you wounder who designed who?
The F-89 was flying two years before the CF-100, so not much to wonder about. They were contemporary aircraft built to similar specifications (i.e. all-weather interceptor) so there should be no surprise that there are similarities.
@@jacksons1010 Thank for the imfo, and they are both good looking planes for sure!
At first I kept thinking about why you had sad violins constantly plinking...
.....after watching the entire thing, I knew.
Keep up the good work. I never knew that Canada had anything apart from Bombardier in its aerospace industry....👍
Très beau documentaire comme tous les autres d'ailleurs.
It looked like an F 89 with a really bad hangover.
You have a new subscriber :D
Imagine salvos of those rockets headed towards you. The good old days of the Cold War. Excellent video.
Then Bristol in Winnipeg improved the rocket by adding a twisted? Exhaust nozzle that spun the rocket up before it left the tube. Went from an aerial shot gun to a sniper
The pine tree line was further north. I’m here in Beaverlodge Alberta which is a shade north of where Alberta/BC border goes straight north. We had a pine tree line base about 5miles out of town on Saskatoon mtn which was more a large hill than anything. The town still has the trailer park where the troops lived off base that’s just a grassy field with lots to park trailers. The base radar antenna is located at the Pioneer museum just north of the town now
Awesome video! also I have to admit It's funny that the Canuck out lived Avro
I recognize CF100 # 152 from Nanton Alberta! and #475 From Edmonton! haha this is fun!
@@polyus_studios I recognize Snowbird 11 from Nanton and 12 from Reynolds in the other video too lol
Very very informative I knew very little about this aircraft.
Which is kind of sad because I'm very interested in this kind of thing.
Great job on this video
I installed the landing gear covers on the CF-100 at the Nanton Museum! some time in 2002
@@polyus_studios there was a pigeon/pigeons trapped inside, and I had to drill out some rivets to release them.
Avro test pilot who ovecam Canada's first sond barrier a Polish pilot named Żurakowski.Also wos a test pilot for Avro Arrow! 👍
Merci BRAD !..Pour m"être a notre disposition ton vidéo , il vas m'être tres utile a mon project maquette d''AVRO CANADA .. !.....Jmarc
Heh !!! Imposter ;-P
This is some badass jet. Old fighter jets from all over the world are awesomely cool to me
What a neat airplane. Good job, Canada!
Thanks for posting, you did an excellent job! I also enjoyed your CF-104 and Tutor videos. Are you planning to do one on the Voodoo, CF-5 and Sabre? Merci!
Yes, I understand your point of view. Looking forward to see the CF-5 and Sabre videos. Hundreds of T-33 TBirds were also made under license by Canadair. Thanks!
As an italian, or better as an european, in the past i was often brought to reckon RCAF as a somewhat minor air force, which isn't definitely the case. Your site is a precious source of informations and helped me to see it under a more realistic light! P. S. background music is a bit too loud and "important". I'd have preferred a quieter and more indifferent backing.
Riccardo - Too late to complain. Watch it again volume muted.
@@rogertycholiz2218 yes, sorry Roger, i thought your vids were WIP and i didn't notice you made them some time ago. Thank you for them.
Great video! My one gripe is the dot for RCAF Uplands is on Toronto instead of Ottawa, and while obviously not a big deal, no one wants to be mistaken for being in Toronto:P
If you were in Toronto your English would be broken lol
I recall seeing a CF-100 parked at the Hamilton airshow. The canopy was open, and I had this idea of trying to get into the cockpit, but it was so narrow that there was no way I could fit. I guess fighter pilots, at least in that jet, had to be rather slender.
That was a great air show all the planes you could walk up to them and look at them closely in addition to watching them fly
Bored one rainy day, I started watching the movie "The Giant Claw".....that's what brought me here. I had to find out more about this interestingly designed plane.
@@polyus_studios.... get ready to laugh;
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@@polyus_studios Remember..... I said I "started watching it".... couldn't make it to the end. haha
Among instructors in Moos Jaw it was refered to as "the flying speed brake" in my days in Canada
Canuck reminds me of Air Cadet camp where there was one on static display near the camp parade square/rec area
Looks like the mother of the B-57 Canberra and the F-89 Scorpion. Nice video.
@mandellorian Where were the Canberra's built?
@@karltonhall9625 A UK designed and built aircraft, entered RAF sewrvice in 1953, built underr license by Martin in the USA (Baltimore?)
Extremely professionally made documentary. Very informative to an aviation fan. A bit like an F-80 but with twin engines. I had a toy model when i was a kid and got to sit in one last year. Primitive cockpit by today's standards of course. Too bad it never came with swept back wings. Of course the CF-105 Arrow was a huge leap forward and I still hate Deifenbaker for scrapping it (and ruining an industry in the process).
There are a few disassembled air frames kickin around the airfield at CFB Borden.
It's a shame that the days of home-grown aviation innovation are over.
The cost for developing new fighter planes is astronomomically high. Thats why so few are being developed now.
@@thunberbolttwo3953 I get that, it's just a shame that we're basically down to a duopoly between Boeing and LM now, plus some smaller conglomerate projects like EJ. There's some hope with the two new European Gen 5/6 projects though.
@@thomaschilcott Dont forget saab.
@@thunberbolttwo3953 ah yes, of course! They are partnering with the UK for Tempest (assuming that happens), although I can't see two concurrent Gen 6 programs succeeding in Europe, given the huge costs and small market.
reminds me of the F-89 scorpion that my father flew in the Guard in the late 1950s to early 60s. A missileer to be sure...not a fighter. Could carry a large compliment of missiles including the Genie.
My dad worked on fire control systems and the early phase of the RED he then was attached with Avro with the weapons system.s for the Arrow, way ahead of the curve they were. After arrow was cancelled he was picked up by Hugh's for work on the mercury program, made a bunch of money and bought my grandfathers farm from him. Lease thats what I've found out cause he never talks about anything past the arrow cancelation, sad..
I've always had a soft spot for these aircraft but will be the first one to admit that they'd never win a beauty contest.
Never heard of this plane before, outstanding video. Being NATO's only all weather fighter was really cool.
There was another all weather interceptor : the French SO 4050 Vautour N.
What people forget was the 60’s were a time people were thinking of rockets & many thought the fighter & interceptors were not needed. I remember this discussion going on for years.
The Canadian warplane heritage museum in Hamilton Ontario. Home of Canada's flying Lancaster. has A cf-100 they let people sit inside. The museum also has one of the only 2 or 3 surviving arrow engines. if my memory is serving me correctly.
4:44 - I recognize that beauty!
It's not dissimilar too the gloster meteor in some respects. Great video.
A full Avro Arrow video please!!!!!!!
nice to see the late great Bill Wharterton at the controls