Yeah I would filter it first. Either with a coffee filter or the cottonball & zip lock bag method. A higher organic load always decreases your disinfection capability.
@@ak-jxrdy-7not sure about the tablets, but they're not meant for murky water. So it most likely would need to take the entire bottle to purify it. It's better to make a filter with charcoal, rock and sand, then run the water through a couple times then boil. And you can make charcoal very easily with just wood.
They kept a small pond at my elementary school. Once a year each class would get to take a sample at put it under a microscope. Lots of critters live in stagnant water.
For once in my life, I believe you just made me grateful for the 20 page biology final I stayed up all night to finish about pond water years ago. It is rather fascinating!
Heard on German TV from a guy who worked in Africa that by exposing water in clear plastic bottles to sunlight for six hours would kill all the microbes. (Doesn’t eliminate possible toxins though) He said it works also when weather is cloudy, it just takes twice as long. - Maybe you could experiment on that and tell if that’s true.
I'm gonna assume that the UV light that's emitted from the sun would have some effect on micro organisms. I've installed a lot of uv light filters for pond clarification. It did have a positive impact on the clarity and algae growth in the pond.
@@ethereal369 P&G make these sachets called Pur that remove the sediment from water in addition to sterilising it. They use ferric sulphate to coagulate the suspended dirt and microbes into big lumps that sink to the bottom, and then the clear water is purified with a source of chlorine. They only take a couple of minutes to turn brown pond water into clear drinking water.
Be careful, lifestraws or any filter with activated charcoal (carbon) can be destroyed by extended periods of exposure to heat. Anything above 140 F and anything below 33 F can damage it. Cars get to or above 140 F in the sun easily.
@@canigetahoooyyyaaaaa7319 also, 80% of the world does not use °F You are kind for sharing info, but if its not comprehensible for most people, it wont help much.
@@canigetahoooyyyaaaaa7319 The LifeStraw uses a membrane with microporous holes that would catch bacteria, plastic and debris and organisms. I like the new straw they came out with. It's pricey but saves space and lasts longer. When compared to the original. It's got a stainless steel build, which makes it hard for harmful pathogens to survive on.
Suspended solids in water provide shelter for micro organisms, bacteria and pathogens. The water must be clarified first before chemical disinfection can take place. So, filter your water first...using coffee filters, moss, sand and charcoal, then use your purification tablets, or boil the water before drinking.
water tabs kill some things in the water and your stomach bacteria as well, the first and last time I used them I ended up with a serious bladder infection, never again. Boil all the way.
My understanding is that water should be left for 45mins-1hour after treatment. There’s also specific dosing depending on how much water you’re aiming to purify and what the water quality is (e.g. 1 tablet for 500ml of cloudy, suspect water OR 1 tablet for 1 litre of clear, trusted water). I’m also not sure iodine is the best or most current form of water purification tablets. Sodium Dichloroisocyanurate/Troclosene Sodium is the most current and most used chemical for emergency/survival water purification. I’d like to see your findings with all that taken into account.
I recently caught a video from Clay Hayes where he used a grapevine and a cypress branch to perfectly filter some pretty funky water. It purified the water completely. A must watch for sure. 🤙
Sodium Dichloroisocyanurate/Troclosene Sodium is the most current and most used chemical for emergency/survival water purification, not iodine. The water should usually be left for 45mins-1hour after treatment. There’s also specific dosing requirements depending on how much water you’re aiming to purify and what the water quality is (e.g. 1 tablet for 500ml of cloudy, suspect water OR 1 tablet for 1 litre of clear, trusted water). I’d like to see your findings with all of that taken into account.
Never had issues with a mini sawyer. I still like to first do the method of digging a small hole near the water so that water filters through the ground. Then I'll take that water and filter it through. Of course, my self sample size of one never having issues doesn't mean Jack squat. Just self reporting. Great content!!
I got Giardia once, backpacking on the PCT, clear Creekwater, are use the iodine tablets to the tea of the instructions and even waited longer than it suggested. Still got Giardia.
Plastic bag distillation. Leave tied around a branch with foliage inside to sweat drinkable water. Or construct a plastic tent over a water filled hole. Stones around the edge, make a fold in the plastic so you dont spill everything. Good for the nastiest water. (As long as you have sun !
Woodsbound Outdoors - Great video content in exploring water purification effectiveness with the purification tablets (in the water sample you collected). Would really like to see you explore more on this subject of water purification under differing conditions, and various methods, techniques, gear, and filter produucts. The microscope results were interesting and helpful in seeing effectiveness of the chemical treatment (without a pre-filtration of the water's turbidity). Really wouuld like to see the end results of a millbank bag pre-filter and then running it throough a Grayl filter bottle. Thanks & Happy Tails! 🇺🇸 🏕 🌲
Yeah 2 tablets per quart. In my jar was a little less than a quart. I even added a 3rd tablet and waited a couple days., Didn't seem to make any difference
Can you boil the dirty water and show us under the microscope what it looks like? I always wondered if it would be "safeish" to drink the dirty water if it was boiled.
Even if you do completely boil and purify it, it still unhealthy in the long run. For example if one lived only with this type of purified water their life would be cut short to their mid to late 40s
I Love when You do vids like this. Can you try other water purification tabs too? I just grabbed one of my rations and the water tabs in there say troclosene sodium. Id be curious how other types work! Heck i could mail them to you if needed.
Why haven't they done micro organism like national geographic, animal planet or discovery?? Sure they had a few episodes but nothing as extensive as dinosaur, safari creatures and aquatic.
Not quite that small known to current science. A bit of RNA (ribozyme) can be self-replicating, but is still a few hundred+ atoms, and considered more an element of pre- life (probiotic) "RNA world" soup than a living being.
When you need your water to have 10 grams of protein.
Lmfao.
With the side effects of disease
@@brianmoyachiuz905 chill. You sound pike a scared american
And toxins
- Certainly with disease 😳😖😣
Yeah I would filter it first. Either with a coffee filter or the cottonball & zip lock bag method. A higher organic load always decreases your disinfection capability.
It's also a good idea to run the water through multiple filters just to be safe. Anything worth doing is worth overdoing.
Quick question, as you guys seem quite knowledgeable - would using multiple purification tablets increase the effectiveness or is it futile to do so?
Why don't you use a real filter first, plus charcoal sand and rock are much better than both those methods.
@@ak-jxrdy-7not sure about the tablets, but they're not meant for murky water. So it most likely would need to take the entire bottle to purify it.
It's better to make a filter with charcoal, rock and sand, then run the water through a couple times then boil.
And you can make charcoal very easily with just wood.
@@Whiskey5_ Understood, thanks!
That's not a water, this is soup.😅
or tea 👀
Primordial stew, just like mom used to make.
Forbidden broth
@@knotsgaming3653 mother nature 😅
Nurgal soup
A good survivalist is an educated survivalist - glad to see the scientific method in an outdoorsman channel!
They kept a small pond at my elementary school. Once a year each class would get to take a sample at put it under a microscope. Lots of critters live in stagnant water.
My elementary school in Colorado did this too.😊
For once in my life, I believe you just made me grateful for the 20 page biology final I stayed up all night to finish about pond water years ago. It is rather fascinating!
It’s so cool to see microorganisms, and larvae . It blows my mind how much life is in a drop of water
Heard on German TV from a guy who worked in Africa that by exposing water in clear plastic bottles to sunlight for six hours would kill all the microbes. (Doesn’t eliminate possible toxins though)
He said it works also when weather is cloudy, it just takes twice as long.
- Maybe you could experiment on that and tell if that’s true.
I'm gonna assume that the UV light that's emitted from the sun would have some effect on micro organisms. I've installed a lot of uv light filters for pond clarification. It did have a positive impact on the clarity and algae growth in the pond.
love this content. thanks for this
Thanks! Putting coffee filters in my bugout bag!
Until watching this I would have thought the purification tablets would have worked for this ! I really appreciate your help!
They do work- in clear water with no sediment. That was his point' "Turbid water reduces the effectiveness of the tablets."
@@ethereal369
P&G make these sachets called Pur that remove the sediment from water in addition to sterilising it. They use ferric sulphate to coagulate the suspended dirt and microbes into big lumps that sink to the bottom, and then the clear water is purified with a source of chlorine. They only take a couple of minutes to turn brown pond water into clear drinking water.
Tablet is used for clear water,not heavily infested, you'd have to use bleach on infested water. Try your own testing.
@@ethereal369 well then you might as well just cook it
It's pretty fascinating all the tiny life forms in a drop of pond water. Of course I wouldn't want to ingest them!
We formed in a not much bigger drop of pond water on a universal scale
The best videos 😊
Yikes! I carry a life straw in my car. A coffee filter (carbon) that goes into a Kuerig machine could be useful? Maybe another video idea for you!
Be careful, lifestraws or any filter with activated charcoal (carbon) can be destroyed by extended periods of exposure to heat. Anything above 140 F and anything below 33 F can damage it. Cars get to or above 140 F in the sun easily.
@@canigetahoooyyyaaaaa7319 also, 80% of the world does not use °F
You are kind for sharing info, but if its not comprehensible for most people, it wont help much.
@@canigetahoooyyyaaaaa7319
The LifeStraw uses a membrane with microporous holes that would catch bacteria, plastic and debris and organisms. I like the new straw they came out with. It's pricey but saves space and lasts longer. When compared to the original. It's got a stainless steel build, which makes it hard for harmful pathogens to survive on.
This is such an interesting video. Thanks for the education.
Suspended solids in water provide shelter for micro organisms, bacteria and pathogens. The water must be clarified first before chemical disinfection can take place.
So, filter your water first...using coffee filters, moss, sand and charcoal, then use your purification tablets, or boil the water before drinking.
Gotta boil it
Filter it and boil it.
@@scientistmilorad9735 that's the best
@@scientistmilorad9735u dont need to filter but you can boil murky water and filter it
water tabs kill some things in the water and your stomach bacteria as well, the first and last time I used them I ended up with a serious bladder infection, never again. Boil all the way.
This is cool. Do more of these tests
My understanding is that water should be left for 45mins-1hour after treatment. There’s also specific dosing depending on how much water you’re aiming to purify and what the water quality is (e.g. 1 tablet for 500ml of cloudy, suspect water OR 1 tablet for 1 litre of clear, trusted water). I’m also not sure iodine is the best or most current form of water purification tablets. Sodium Dichloroisocyanurate/Troclosene Sodium is the most current and most used chemical for emergency/survival water purification.
I’d like to see your findings with all that taken into account.
As a scientist and long distance hiker, this post made me very happy 😍
I recently caught a video from Clay Hayes where he used a grapevine and a cypress branch to perfectly filter some pretty funky water.
It purified the water completely.
A must watch for sure.
🤙
Sodium Dichloroisocyanurate/Troclosene Sodium is the most current and most used chemical for emergency/survival water purification, not iodine. The water should usually be left for 45mins-1hour after treatment. There’s also specific dosing requirements depending on how much water you’re aiming to purify and what the water quality is (e.g. 1 tablet for 500ml of cloudy, suspect water OR 1 tablet for 1 litre of clear, trusted water).
I’d like to see your findings with all of that taken into account.
Never had issues with a mini sawyer. I still like to first do the method of digging a small hole near the water so that water filters through the ground. Then I'll take that water and filter it through. Of course, my self sample size of one never having issues doesn't mean Jack squat. Just self reporting. Great content!!
Thanks Andy.
Wow, thanks for sharing 👌 i dunno shoot about this stuff, but very interesting to see
I have learned something off of each and one every one of your videos thank you
That's really good to know, thank you!
I got Giardia once, backpacking on the PCT, clear Creekwater, are use the iodine tablets to the tea of the instructions and even waited longer than it suggested. Still got Giardia.
Hey Thank You for making these videos
Beneficial educational entertaining and wicked informative
Thank you, for the information.
Love the Appalachians clear water flowing out of the aide of the mountain straight from the ground
Can you do this experiment again, but instead of testing tablets can you analyze different stages/times of boiling?
Would like to see pond water examined before and after going through a Grayl press
Just filter and boil. Only sure way, unless the water has other chemicals
Plastic bag distillation. Leave tied around a branch with foliage inside to sweat drinkable water. Or construct a plastic tent over a water filled hole. Stones around the edge, make a fold in the plastic so you dont spill everything. Good for the nastiest water. (As long as you have sun !
Woodsbound Outdoors -
Great video content in exploring water purification effectiveness with the purification tablets (in the water sample you collected).
Would really like to see you explore more on this subject of water purification under differing conditions, and various methods, techniques, gear, and filter produucts.
The microscope results were interesting and helpful in seeing effectiveness of the chemical treatment (without a pre-filtration of the water's turbidity).
Really wouuld like to see the end results of a millbank bag pre-filter and then running it throough a Grayl filter bottle.
Thanks & Happy Tails!
🇺🇸 🏕 🌲
What about trying this experiment with The Lifestraw?
Cool work man!
Was that the correct amount of tablets for that quantity of water? 😎
Yeah 2 tablets per quart. In my jar was a little less than a quart. I even added a 3rd tablet and waited a couple days., Didn't seem to make any difference
@@WoodsboundOutdoors I guess boiling is the better option
@@WoodsboundOutdoors Thanks. I've never (had to) used them, yet. But definitely curious. Nice to know too!! 💯
Better just boil it, cheaper and works no matter what
If school was like this involved then I'm sure it would actually mean something to kids.
Nice vid !
Can you boil the dirty water and show us under the microscope what it looks like? I always wondered if it would be "safeish" to drink the dirty water if it was boiled.
Can you do this same test out with like a cloth filter, then see it under a scope. Then add tablets?
I was curious how filtering with a typical bandana would help.
I just boil for 10 minutes on the fire and I’ve been fine. So far
Ten minutes? I would think anything living will die in the first?
"look at all these forms of life in the water, now we need to kill it" 😂
Even if you do completely boil and purify it, it still unhealthy in the long run. For example if one lived only with this type of purified water their life would be cut short to their mid to late 40s
Filter, boil then treat if planning to drink.
Giardia I think mostly, filter or boil and even a simple distillation apparatus.
Note that viruses typically attach to substrate and are therefore filtered out by micropore filters like Sawyer.
I Love when You do vids like this. Can you try other water purification tabs too? I just grabbed one of my rations and the water tabs in there say troclosene sodium. Id be curious how other types work! Heck i could mail them to you if needed.
Filter and boil. Or use one of those new Hi-Tech filters, but make sure you change the media regularly (as recommended by manufacturer).
I think those tablets are for keeping clean water from going bad.
Oh, that's nasty, idk if I'd drink that even purified 😂 I swear that was a ton of tadpoles at the top when you threw the tablets in.
Try coffee filters as a rough first filter.
How about the life straw?? Wife bought me one but still stuck with boiling water lol but do they really work for swamp water??
Im starting to think boiling is more effective. Gotta stock up on esbit tabs
Did you use a proportionate number of tablets for that sized jar though? That was just 2.
Now we need to see boiled, straw filter, charcoal, all of it 😂😂😂
I just bought a microscope or Japanese quality. I'm looking forward to keeping an eye on my well water each month.
Then check the water purified .
Does it matter wether you boil it first, or filter it first??
Instead of iodine. Use chlorine dioxide.
Curious to see part 2
Wow nice
Ever check water filtered through a lifestraw?
Why haven't they done micro organism like national geographic, animal planet or discovery?? Sure they had a few episodes but nothing as extensive as dinosaur, safari creatures and aquatic.
what if you boil it?
EW I didn't knew living bugs were inside dirty water like that
I drink my water untreated, protein is protein
Definitely good to know.
Where would I find water purification tablets?
Interesting to know to not just carry tablets for an emergency….
There living things to the size of an atom / quantum realm!
Not quite that small known to current science. A bit of RNA (ribozyme) can be self-replicating, but is still a few hundred+ atoms, and considered more an element of pre- life (probiotic) "RNA world" soup than a living being.
I thought the label said water purification genocidal tablets.
Is swimming in ponds safe?
Yep, just avoid swallowing large amounts of water. Be sure to find out if brain eating amoeba live in the body of water first tho
Put it through some kind of rudimentary filter first, at least...
tera overheat miss into crit… this hurt me and I‘m not even the one playing this lmao
Wadley needs more features on the channel!
"So we ran an experiment to see if this product works when you don't follow the instructions. It didn't. Science?"
Noted. Thank bunches.
What microscope is that?
Be interesting to compare it to boiled water
You must filter any questionable water , thru coffee filters and cheesecloth, nylons, etc...That water looked like Beef Stew...
Forbidden stew
"other ingredients 83.3%"
And those are what?
Little protein never hurt nobody.... right?
Man i wish i could meet you, you're so cool dude.
Can you do one when you boil
can you show us how boiled water looks under the microscope 😁
How about coastal sewer water?
It's a shame that all that life has to die for us to drink, but there's more of them than there are of us, and we still gotta drink.
Inna survival situation i always microwave my water. 3 minutes per cup.
Clear as mud. 😄
I prefer to filter my water through coffee beans
Next time try hot stone life hack for boil diry water for me
that's nightmare material right there!
Lemme get this straight we comsuke water where microorganisms are peeing and pooing in it?
The best solution is to heat the water
Boil the water
U could have rescued the frogs 😮
Filter and boil