Why School Is Becoming Irrelevant | Answers With Joe

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  • @ValentineC137
    @ValentineC137 Před 4 lety +399

    Joe: "[...] I do have some older people on here."
    The 9 year old who has set his birthdate as 1872: *_Nodding_*

  • @willowdesk
    @willowdesk Před 4 lety +580

    The amount of youtube I use for my “education” is absurd. The quality of content is almost if not better than most courses at top universities.

    • @morganseppy5180
      @morganseppy5180 Před 4 lety +43

      @Jack Hole, in my experience, there are quality history, science, math, and film & cinematography channels, and quite a few episodes are on par with any of my university lectures, but I'd agree that most playlists aren't equivalent to a course. Notable exceptions are education channels like Crash Course, Invicta, and PBS Space Time, which are specifically structured to present comprehensive material. To your point, though, the numbers are irrelevant because media consumption today is completely subjective. Just reward the quality channels with subs & likes and the algorithms will give you more.

    • @willowdesk
      @willowdesk Před 4 lety +10

      Jack Hole the numbers will obviously say otherwise if you’re literally given a degree when you finish your education showing evidence of the work you put in. I’m not saying youtube is a replacement for university but a very very good helping hand. And look at the value for $ aspect too.

    • @min-magicks
      @min-magicks Před 4 lety +17

      @Jack Hole Not exactly what the poster was talking about, but you can also watch actual college lectures on youtube as well.

    • @kindlin
      @kindlin Před 4 lety +19

      @@morganseppy5180
      The main downfall of YT educational content is there is no homework, and no reason to do any extra work if you're not already invested in the subject. You can't really learn something without doing it, period.
      Spacetime is one of, if not my number one, favorite YT channel, but I haven't really 'learned' much there, just listened to regurgitated information, and I'm actually one of the few that does understand most of what he talks about (I've spent years reading papers and watching and reading everything I can about quantum anything and everything), but I literally know none of the advanced math necessary, and while 3B1B is making up for some of that, it's going to take many years before 3B1B gets to topics that I need to know to actually really, truely, understand the things Matt on PBS Spacetime is talking about.

    • @ScaryHairyHarry
      @ScaryHairyHarry Před 4 lety +6

      *American 'top' universities

  • @rev.davemoorman3883
    @rev.davemoorman3883 Před 4 lety +452

    Teacher: Johnny - I asked you a question
    Johnny: Just a sec. I'm downloading it now.
    Teacher: Why so long?
    Johnny: Monetization.

  • @dakotapahel-short3192
    @dakotapahel-short3192 Před 4 lety +24

    honestly i think the most important thing that school teaches is social skills. having to be part of a large, consistent group and learning the consequences of different interactions is absurdly helpful. its the one thing i've always found missing from home schooled people i've met. id be worried for how a future without school would impact people's abilties to form healthy relationships with people outside their immediate families.

  • @viviannichols3582
    @viviannichols3582 Před 3 lety +4

    I went to public school from Kindergarten through 6th grade and hated it. For the first several years, I wasn’t taught anything new and was actually scolded for implementing concepts that hadn’t been taught yet. I was bored and got in trouble all the time.
    For one year, in eight grade, I went to an intense private school that gave so much homework that I couldn’t have any kind of life outside of school. I couldn’t practice my musical instruments or spend time outside, and I became very depressed.
    In seventh grade and high school, I was homeschooled, and it was by far the best fit for me. It allowed me to have a flexible schedule and fit in all of my other activities. I could learn the subjects in which I was most interested. I could go at my own pace: speeding ahead in some subjects and taking my time with others. I was able to start college at 16 thanks to homeschooling.
    I know it isn’t the ideal choice for all families, but it was for me. (This was before there were as many online resources as there are now.) I’ve seen that a lot of families discovered that online school is best for them over this recent period of time. Unfortunately, where I live, they are completely eliminating the online option next year when they go back to in-person learning.
    That is so frustrating! Why not offer the option? Kids learn differently, and there is no reason why the classroom setup should be considered ideal. And, just for the record, the “lack of socialization” myth about homeschooling is entirely untrue. No one is stopping homeschooled kids from interacting with other kids. There are countless activities, formal and informal, out there where kids can socialize. In school, they get yelled at for talking to each other anyway.

  • @maeisaheffalump
    @maeisaheffalump Před 4 lety +539

    Joe Scott you are an international treasure

  • @Veve101
    @Veve101 Před 4 lety +46

    With advanced automation, we would do a major disservice to humanity by still viewing education through "jobs" and "productivity". We already do a disservice by having too narrow of a focus on university and trade skills, and not teaching skills to cope with stress, interpersonal communication, emotional regulation, etc.

    • @mjimih
      @mjimih Před 4 lety

      Veve " major disservice to humanity by still viewing education through "jobs" and "productivity"
      this is a wise statement ppl. I read the encyclopedia as a kid, and hated half of my classes. I ended up not getting math even though I'm smart. So, therefore, when Dad said I couldn't skip a year before college to work and decide what i wanted to be, I wasn't prepared for college. My trade school effort failed too bc of the school itself failing (got half my money back.). Be careful out there guys it can be tumultuous.

  • @oliverhelms4112
    @oliverhelms4112 Před 4 lety +471

    "Yes hello, I got my degree from Joe Scott University"

    • @SHAZZZZZA
      @SHAZZZZZA Před 4 lety +10

      Me too! Howdy fellow classmate!

    • @blsi4037
      @blsi4037 Před 4 lety +6

      Wait, you didn't get yours from diplomas-r-us.com?

    • @raymondgilbert7887
      @raymondgilbert7887 Před 4 lety +1

      Nathan Zhang lol I know of it

    • @Delta-zy1et
      @Delta-zy1et Před 4 lety +5

      *Harvard University would like to know your location*
      Block Accept

    • @xenoidaltu601
      @xenoidaltu601 Před 4 lety +7

      A Joe Scott University student & Trump University student walk into a bar..

  • @NovelNovelist
    @NovelNovelist Před 4 lety +40

    The whole, "Do you need to learn something if you can just look up the info?" topic is an interesting one. I think that's a valid point for a lot of information, but on the other hand, as alluded to in this video, a lot of advancements and success come down to the synthesis of information and ideas that you kind of need to already have in place and wouldn't necessarily know you were even "missing." Like sure, it's easy to come across a discussion or problem referencing a specific topic and realize you should look up info about the topic so you understand what's going on -- but even more likely is that you'll simply be confronted with problems and opportunities that COULD benefit from greater insight into a specific topic that would provide more context or allow you to build on that foundation to develop a solution -- but never realize that at all. It's one thing to know what you don't know and therefore be able to look it up, but far more often you don't know what you don't know and thus can't look it up.

    • @MrPopadopoulis
      @MrPopadopoulis Před 3 lety +5

      You also don't really 'learn' new pieces of information unless you have to use that information in a meaningful way, such as using it to solve a math problem, or to answer detailed questions on the topic that require re-reading/comprehension/conceptualization. (Mostly older people though, kids are like sponges.)

    • @veejayroth
      @veejayroth Před 2 lety +4

      I am a big believer in the concept of general knowledge and my guess is that general knowledge + critical thinking will be sufficient for future people to be able to navigate the flood of information. No need to know much about, say, the Kingdom of Prussia or the Mughal Empire, but knowing there was something like that in 18th century Europe and Asia, respectively, is most likely enough to be able to discern necessary information on the topic when it comes in handy.
      Just having a general map of human knowledge in one's head without any useless details.

    • @powderslinger5968
      @powderslinger5968 Před rokem +2

      Educated= Having enough background knowledge to know what information you lack and the ability to understand it when you find it.

  • @Hollylivengood
    @Hollylivengood Před 3 lety +13

    High school was actually a choice when I was in school. In junior high you took a test, and that suggested whether wyou might do better in a trade or not. A lot of kids signed up for the tech school where you still got a basic education along with intensly awesome carpentry, auto mechanics, hair dressing, office sciences - that was all secretarial classes - electronics. Everyone graduated from those classes with a certification to get a job BY THE TIME THEY WERE 18. This was awesome for everyone. Why it's not done now, I'll never see.

    • @scarba
      @scarba Před rokem +3

      It’s like this in Germany right now, we have an awesome apprenticeship system

  • @allineedis1mike81
    @allineedis1mike81 Před 4 lety +109

    I'm 41, my Dad went to a one room school in West Virginia when he was a kid.

    • @carolyncopeland2722
      @carolyncopeland2722 Před 4 lety +2

      Ditto. I'm 45 and Dad rode his horse to a 1 room school starting in the 40's, I started in a 2 room school. My son started in a 8 room school. Grandpa was one of those who finished school at 14.

    • @alphagt62
      @alphagt62 Před 4 lety

      I’ve got a few uncles that had a 6th grade education. And they were actually smart men, who held good jobs. I guess they learned the rest as they went along?

    • @michaeljames5936
      @michaeljames5936 Před 4 lety +1

      Most of my elder siblings went to a two-room school and walked several miles to go there. It had an outside, dry toilet and spawned an outbreak of Hepatitis A. (or THE Yallah Jandies, as it was known.)

    • @arthas640
      @arthas640 Před 4 lety

      my grandparents all went to one room prairie schools like that. One of my grandfathers schools was actually one of those types of buildings that was basically a couple walls with the rest of it being a tent, like those buildings you see in westerns in gold rush towns.

    • @davidadams2395
      @davidadams2395 Před 4 lety

      I’m 50, and my dad went to one-room schoolhouse until High School.

  • @RealMartian
    @RealMartian Před 4 lety +222

    "flying away from the nest into the emptiness of adulthood" best line 😂

    • @rynz_2893
      @rynz_2893 Před 4 lety +1

      spooky! ...and depressing lol

    • @PinataOblongata
      @PinataOblongata Před 4 lety +5

      @Ruthanne D'Antuono Good for you. Other people aren't so lucky. They spend 40 years gradually figuring out why they wasted their youth addicted to some substance or another, or enmeshed in abusive relationships. If they're lucky they're able to deal with all the trauma of the past brought about by the trauma of their youth, which was likely in turn brought about by trauma suffered by, and then meted out by, their parents, in a never-ending cycle of shit. Sure, it's good to be positive about your opportunities, but not everyone has those.

    • @TheExoplanetsChannel
      @TheExoplanetsChannel Před 4 lety

      :O

  • @testuser2709
    @testuser2709 Před 4 lety +92

    I want to hear about the differences with east/west edu - especially around the printing press era...

    • @johnschneider6190
      @johnschneider6190 Před 4 lety +3

      I'm from russia siberia...school and military same thing
      Start school at 3
      School till 8
      Military till 21
      If you want good career in country
      If not you just go to trade diploma school but still can be called to draft but not called draft.
      But I'm 47 and things change is russia greatly

    • @giyanvice
      @giyanvice Před 4 lety +2

      I heard that the first university in the world was in India. Not sure if its true or not.

    • @deeptiadmile9986
      @deeptiadmile9986 Před 4 lety +2

      @@giyanvice it was Nalanda University in India!

    • @ewmegoolies
      @ewmegoolies Před 4 lety

      you just want him to be demonitized

  • @MegaVirus700
    @MegaVirus700 Před 4 lety +43

    Remote mechanic in the future: "look sir, I'm gonna need you to find me a stronger bystander than you because we're gonna be here all day if I'm using your arms"

    • @limiv5272
      @limiv5272 Před 4 lety +6

      "No need, I'll go get my exoskeleton"

    • @cynvision
      @cynvision Před 4 lety

      @@limiv5272 Need one of these for the next ten years until I retire. Why is only Ford cars in on this program? Seems to me every dang warehouse ought to be in some pilot program for motor assisted freight moving. Unless the results are more Iron Man copy than Ripley... sign me up.

    • @YuriG03042
      @YuriG03042 Před 3 lety +2

      Jesus, I laughed so hard at this. this is why you don't skip the gym

  • @6miler
    @6miler Před 4 lety +98

    I've learned more from youtube then I ever would have from school lol. I can replay the video as much as I need to understand. Try to replay a disgruntled teacher who's got a class of 30 to worry about.

    • @kevingreen2626
      @kevingreen2626 Před 3 lety

      Same 🙌

    • @bpaboyce
      @bpaboyce Před 3 lety +2

      As a teacher, I wish I only had 30 to worry about…good on you for taking charge of your own education!

    • @agatainventio9464
      @agatainventio9464 Před 2 lety

      They force us into a system created for 19 century needs

  • @pavolgocik8917
    @pavolgocik8917 Před 4 lety +143

    Fun story of my mum:
    her grandfather: "You were not working on the field today!"
    my mother: "I graduated today"
    her grandfather: "OK, but tomorrow you are going to work on the field again!"

    • @michaeljames5936
      @michaeljames5936 Před 4 lety +15

      How things change. i only had to work the fields in the evenings and at weekends, because i was a grammar school boy.

    • @lanzecki
      @lanzecki Před 4 lety +21

      "You took all day to graduate?"

    • @bikerfirefarter7280
      @bikerfirefarter7280 Před 3 lety

      sad, not fun, but often oh so true.

    • @extropiantranshuman
      @extropiantranshuman Před 2 lety +1

      @@michaeljames5936 I know, in the future, it'll be 'I'm watching a youtube video' and the response is 'when you're done watching, you'll work on the field'

  • @kencarp57
    @kencarp57 Před 4 lety +452

    LOL “when you get to be my age...”
    Joe, you have no idea what’s coming as you get older. I’m so old we had to fight off the Velociraptors and Pterodactyls while walking to school...
    Uphill...
    Both ways...
    In the snow...
    Barefoot...
    In August.
    👴🏼
    Great video, as always!

    • @mlc4495
      @mlc4495 Před 4 lety +18

      "How many miles Grandpa?"
      15 MILES!!!!

    • @kryptyk3
      @kryptyk3 Před 4 lety +7

      Ahh.. a we, the last of the, "Bet you won't do that again, huh?! " Generation!!

    • @Amphibiot
      @Amphibiot Před 4 lety +15

      Aye. When i was i third grade, i witnessed a man on the toilet being eaten by a Tyrannosaurus Rex.
      That was in the movie "Jurassic Park", mind, but still.

    • @kosmique
      @kosmique Před 4 lety +2

      godfrey, right?

    • @MichaelSHartman
      @MichaelSHartman Před 4 lety +5

      We walked to school ten miles, and ten miles back in the snow, uphill both ways.
      Grandpa, why didn't you turn around?
      I've wanted to do that for so long.

  • @ericwoytasek269
    @ericwoytasek269 Před 4 lety +121

    The Matrix:
    Neo: Can you fly this thing?
    Trinity: Tank, I need a pilot program!

  • @kirksatterwhite2473
    @kirksatterwhite2473 Před 4 lety +14

    Thank you, thank you, thank you! I’ve enjoyed your videos for years, and today with your kind words for teachers you’ve reached platinum status in my book. It’s wonderful to hear someone acknowledge the hard and often thankless work we do. So thank you Joe for bringing attention to the often under appreciated job of educator. Much obliged.

  • @Lorentari
    @Lorentari Před 4 lety +105

    When you say Euro-centric - You actually mean US-centric. Many school systems in Northern Europe (Germany, Scandinavia, Finland for example) have vastly different systems focused on Creative Problem Solving instead of question/answer based

    • @anmolpatel793
      @anmolpatel793 Před 4 lety +8

      All schools are the same wherever you go , they say they focus on creative problem solving to just look catchy but those problems still require you to do homework and kids who go through that education route are not prepared to become competitive. Remember if a school focused less on homework and more on creative problem solving it won't be called a school in traditional sense

    • @ronjacato9309
      @ronjacato9309 Před 4 lety +32

      @@anmolpatel793 I can show you the swedish curriculum (in english) if you want. We (yes, I'm a teacher) HAVE to teach the tools, not the subject of things. So we teach students how to find information, how to be critical of information, how to analyze that information and so on. So, for example, in history you don't have to know things from your head like dates and names, the most important thing is that you can analyze what you see/read and know where you can find that information and how different scenarios and situations affect one another. In my subject, art (swedish art curriculum is actually more focused on how visual literacy than art) the key things we grade are your ability to analyze, discuss and come to conclusions based on proven fact. And if there is no "fact", you analyze why there isn't.
      I'm sorry for the long text, but it's so much fun to teach when you focus on the fact that you give the students tools to learn for the rest of their lives. Not just learn things in school.

    • @nicolaiveliki1409
      @nicolaiveliki1409 Před 4 lety +6

      you'd be amazed at how many incompetent people there are in Germany. I went to 'Gymnasium' which is the branch of education that leads to university, and most of my classmates passed just by cramming facts in their brains and puking them on a sheet for the exam. I'm not saying I'm the only one of my class of ~100 graduates who is sort of competent, but only 20-30% developed the ability to think critically and take responsibility - and Germany is heralded as the most competent large state (>20Million inhabitants) in the EU

    • @Hanyousan1661
      @Hanyousan1661 Před 4 lety +11

      @@nicolaiveliki1409
      They learned just enough to get by. That's plenty for the majority - if they can show up for their 9 - 5 and do a competent job, that's fine. Especially if they are happy. Not everyone wants to be the big brain in the room. As long as we have a decent number of people who do aspire to be the best, we'll be fine as a species. Not everyone needs to be super smart, or the best as school. So long as they pull their weight in society (and are generally happy), that's good enough. We do need to work on inspiring a love of learning in children and teens, though, instead of learning because you have to.

    • @kotarichards5218
      @kotarichards5218 Před 4 lety +8

      @@ronjacato9309 I've been through two different history classes here in the states that focused more on the events rather than dates, just like you said. Both made the subject sooooooooo much more interesting and fun.

  • @huloadalbert6437
    @huloadalbert6437 Před 4 lety +121

    you’re my favorite dash on the Internet.

    • @foxrings
      @foxrings Před 4 lety +1

      With all the science videos I watch, I'm right there with you Joe! Mile wide, inch deep. 😆

  • @Cellidor
    @Cellidor Před 4 lety +33

    When I think back on school, I always remembered how much I despised taking notes and copying what was on the board. It's like...I can EITHER listen to what you're explaining OR copy down the notes, not both. This meant I had to choose between understanding the lesson and having zero notes to help with homework, or having notes and essentially having to teach myself what they meant after class. Obviously the latter was preferred, which unfortunately lead to some teachers thinking I 'wasn't paying attention in class' since I'm asking things they already explained. I'm sorry that I'm not able to split my brain in two for you teach, especially not when It's ungodly early in the morning and my growing body refuses to accept these absurdly early schedules (7am math classes were always the worst).

    • @296jacqi
      @296jacqi Před 4 lety +5

      Agreed. When I got to college I started taking a photo of the board and copying the notes at home later to learn them better.

    • @hatmann5697
      @hatmann5697 Před 4 lety +1

      Split the right and left hemispheres of your brain to do that

    • @barakathiongo4835
      @barakathiongo4835 Před 4 lety +2

      Did you say 7am?????

    • @Cellidor
      @Cellidor Před 4 lety

      @Just Looking I only got the chance to use a cell phone in college, which even then didn't help as much as I would have hoped. The teachers were always standing partially in front of the board, and more irksome still they would erase it as they went so at best I would end with a miss-matched mix of weird photos that I'd have to hopefully try and stitch together somehow. It was a mess.

    • @Cellidor
      @Cellidor Před 4 lety

      @Baraka Thiongo Yep, 7am. It was a nightmare, I physically couldn't fall asleep no matter what I tried and as a result was always, without a doubt, tired as all sin in the morning. Some schools even went as early as 6 I'd heard. I still remember how me and my friends always hoped that we'd end up with the harder classes after lunch, because anything before lunch was a write-off of existing in a painful, half-conscious daze.

  • @Blue_4-2
    @Blue_4-2 Před 4 lety +76

    60's: You need to decide on a career path RIGHT NOW!!!!! Give us your answer!!!
    Me: Abused because no answer
    80's: The field I've worked in the rest of my adult life gets invented....
    2000's: You ain't seen nothing yet!

    • @plerpplerp5599
      @plerpplerp5599 Před 4 lety +4

      School is for fish.

    • @purestdj
      @purestdj Před 4 lety +3

      Madolina Degocelli Uhhhh, okaaaay...🙄

    • @Donnirononon
      @Donnirononon Před 4 lety +2

      @Madolina Degocelli Can you send me some of the stuff?

  • @sagefushi
    @sagefushi Před 4 lety +7

    In Kenya, e.g. education is currently being optimised for an individual soooo, ye, education is being personalised using technology and the maker movement.

  • @lashram32
    @lashram32 Před 4 lety +4

    Im a teacher and its been ruff. Financially, emotionally, ruff. Thanks for acknowledging it.

    • @arfyness
      @arfyness Před 3 lety

      I hope you're not grading spelling or grammar.

  • @solmora2582
    @solmora2582 Před 4 lety +65

    If I remember my late 19th century history, a big piece of the civil education story was not driven so much by needing better educated kids. Rather it was a combo of reformers trying to decrease child labor as a humanitarian aim and unions trying to decrease child labor as competition to union members.

    • @nicolaiveliki1409
      @nicolaiveliki1409 Před 4 lety +2

      I'm sure there were a multitude of lines of reasoning for a large number of different groups of people. Ultimately, they mostly agreed that it was beneficial

    • @mikitz
      @mikitz Před 4 lety +9

      The 19th century public school system was designed to shape kids into a bunch of factory workers. That's why the rich kids went to private schools.

    • @acmenipponair
      @acmenipponair Před 4 lety

      Well, sometimes it was not even humanitarian - many of the first schools were build by the factory owners, because they saw. that the processes in their factories became complexer and so they needed more skilled workers - and when you train them young, they will be more willing to work for your after they finished 8th class.

  • @chrisbenn
    @chrisbenn Před 4 lety +73

    ANd a lot of us are "shaped" by a teacher that did NOT care! :-(

    • @enviromental2565
      @enviromental2565 Před 4 lety +3

      Or a third grade teacher that in my day dreaming mind was the Wicked Witch of the South. "I'll get you my pretty, and your little dog too! CackleScreechCackle". And she would flip on and off the lights to get our attention (strobe effect).

    • @crowmagnum9280
      @crowmagnum9280 Před 3 lety +3

      I personally never had any positive life changing experiences with a teacher. No teacher moved me, reached me, or inspired me. I’d have to think really hard to even remember any of their names. School was basically 13 years of watching the clock for me, I did most of my learning after school, I think if anything it inhibited me growth. That’s just my experience.

    • @bikerfirefarter7280
      @bikerfirefarter7280 Před 3 lety +2

      @@crowmagnum9280 ditto, but you are far from alone. i only learned 2 facts and one technique (forge-welding two pieces of steel) in all my schooling. neither facts or technique has been any use and one is outdated and incorrect. everything else i learned from family, friends, strangers, self study. i left school with the third highest grades for that final year (130 pupils). what a waste.

    • @40watt53
      @40watt53 Před 3 lety

      @@enviromental2565 How bad was it? Was it just enough to get someones attention or was it genuine strobing able to cause a seizure?

    • @40watt53
      @40watt53 Před 3 lety

      @@bikerfirefarter7280 If your grades are that high you obviously know everything already and aren't going to learn.

  • @cheesemonger6378
    @cheesemonger6378 Před 4 lety +26

    I tried to skip my graduation for work but my boss said “its your graduation! Go!”
    Still would’ve preferred finishing my shift but my parents were happy

  • @datboi1026
    @datboi1026 Před 4 lety +23

    Education is changing
    U.S. Education system: *Idk about that one chief. Not that much.*

  • @AstroRamiEmad
    @AstroRamiEmad Před 3 lety +3

    1:30 Oh let me tell you when I went to school. We were denied to hold our BA graduation celebration even though we had permission from the Dean of Damascus University, Syria; and all doctors to hold one. The "Student Union" (one of 17 security forces/oppression divisions the Assad regime has) refused to allow us to even take a Graduation Picture! And they stole the mobile from a professor (Best teacher of Shakespeare in the world) as she was trying to convince them to let us have that!
    For my MA I was denied my own MA graduation certificate, and I am blackmailed to go get it in person in order for them to arrest me! Ironically enough, they sent my parents a Merit award for my name, but didn't allow them to get my certificate for me, even though the law in Syria clearly says Family members can do that! But who cares about the law!

  • @theobserver9131
    @theobserver9131 Před 4 lety +6

    I've learned so much more online than I ever did in school. My grandkids are receiving no schooling at all, and are ahead of their peers who go to school, and don't have to get harrassed by bullies. Their social needs are another thing though.

    • @DogDogGodFog
      @DogDogGodFog Před 4 lety

      @Speaking Truth Bruh I attended a school that was "in the top ten schools of the county" and got assaulted with a knife by a kid with two braincells.

    • @wolfzmusic9706
      @wolfzmusic9706 Před 4 lety

      Torbulentin well maybe it’s in the top ten academically. in the uk, we have this thing called ofsted which rates your school on pretty much everything so if behaviour is pretty shit then surely the ofsted rating must suck

  • @drewcoville8409
    @drewcoville8409 Před 4 lety +54

    As an actual 2020 college graduate, the “emptiness of adulthood” line really hit home :/

    • @undeaddutch
      @undeaddutch Před 4 lety +1

      Literally at home

    • @midnight8341
      @midnight8341 Před 4 lety +3

      I'm like a month away from my masters degree and I'm terrified...

    • @davecasey4341
      @davecasey4341 Před 4 lety +4

      That's one of the problems with graduation nowadays. A young person gets that diploma and if they don't have a job to go to on Monday morning, they sit around wondering what to do. It's especially bad if they got one of those useless degrees that no employer is going to be impressed with. These people have spent their first 18-22 years being told what needs to be done to succeed each day of their lives. Now, it's all on them and they can feel lost in the middle of the ocean. Some handle it all wrong and begin blaming everything around them for their lack of success, while others take the time to review their skills and figure out a way to make their way in the world with that skill set.

    • @ricardougalde9516
      @ricardougalde9516 Před 4 lety +1

      I'm a 2020 class highschool student and it sucks. Our graduation is going to be drive through style

    • @PinataOblongata
      @PinataOblongata Před 4 lety +1

      @Ruthanne D'Antuono I beg to differ. It never works out. No one gets out alive.

  • @shariwelch8760
    @shariwelch8760 Před 4 lety +16

    I'm 57, and I'm the one with the grandparents that went to school in a one room schoolhouse.

  • @elenaobradovic4181
    @elenaobradovic4181 Před 4 lety +4

    16:44 Buccellati, what did they do to you?? Seriously though, is no one going to address that nightmare creature?

  • @brennathompson1855
    @brennathompson1855 Před 4 lety +3

    1:55 That's me! And I'm only in my mid-twenties. My grandma grew up in a small, rural community and, until the 1950s and the car/highway system revolutionized transport, received the latest inventions a decade after everyone else. Five out of my seven aunts and uncles grew up in a home with no indoor plumbing and an outhouse.

  • @BanditoPictures
    @BanditoPictures Před 4 lety +89

    the future of education has been something I’ve been thinking about for awhile now with the route technology has taken us in and honestly with how traditional education smothers the potential of many young creative thinking individuals. Not only their potential, but also their motivation by making them take “busy” classes that have nothing to do with their interests or future. Not to mention, how different the world would be post-neuralink and advanced AI.

    • @BanditoPictures
      @BanditoPictures Před 4 lety +8

      Mikael, kids sit in a corner with their phones now with the current education system. Obviously children should learn preliminary subjects at an early age. At some point early in their educational career that have to be taught to be free in creativity and inventing. That life is not about getting the good grade or the degree that will give you that office job. That the impossible is possible. Creativity is what creates the robots and other things that exist in our life. As well as those things, creativity in the form of entertainment, art, music and inventions are just as equally as important. CZcams would not exist without someone using creative thinking. Neither would companies such as Space X, Neuralink or others that will be viable to humanity’s future.

    • @c128stuff
      @c128stuff Před 4 lety +5

      @Mikael the things you need are a result of creative thinking. If we need robots, we need more creative thinkers who can make them work.
      You fall in the same trap as many generals.. they too often end up fighting the previous war. You end saying we need to educate people for a change from the past (the industrial revolution), not for the future challenges we are facing.

    • @oriondye3212
      @oriondye3212 Před 4 lety

      Creative thinkers are a small minority of the jobs currently existing or will exist in the near future. You don’t get productive sewage workers by teaching creative thinking skills. You don’t get productive ditch diggers by teaching creative thinking skills. You don’t get productive truck drivers by teaching creative thinking skills. You don’t get productive fast food workers by teaching creative thinking skills. Sure some of those jobs will go away in the future, but most will not.

    • @galek75
      @galek75 Před 4 lety +1

      This is just pure ideology

    • @kenshinofkin5337
      @kenshinofkin5337 Před 4 lety +3

      @@oriondye3212 For the jobs you list, maybe not. But life is far more than a job. We need more people that can see past the bs the news, government, people of "influent" celebrities\internet no-buddies are spoon feeding them. Schools should be focused on critical thinking skills and teaching people how to learn before ever learning math, english, etc. Also, creative thinking skills can spur creative solutions that may not have been thought of because the people that have these skills don't have to deal with ditch digging, truck driving (maybe gone in 10-20 years), fast food.

  • @isaiahjones1587
    @isaiahjones1587 Před 4 lety +144

    “Here in the year *2100* when you turn 10 you’re officially ready to take on your first responsibilities. So here you are, your very own Pipboy 3000.”

    • @elizabethsetlow862
      @elizabethsetlow862 Před 4 lety +9

      At least they won't have to remember to feed their Tomagotchi. That was a learning experience lemme tell ya.

    • @jr2904
      @jr2904 Před 4 lety +3

      @@elizabethsetlow862 I felt so bad when mine died... For a little while anyways.

    • @citationsloth
      @citationsloth Před 4 lety +1

      @@elizabethsetlow862 I had a tamagotchi pikachu
      I loved that thing
      Pretty sure my aunt stole it so I would stop obsessing

    • @OhWizzer
      @OhWizzer Před 4 lety +1

      Nice one mate

    • @aethersin379
      @aethersin379 Před 4 lety +2

      Except you don’t own that pipiboy young man. You will lease it and pay monthly software usage fees with a 100 year contract

  • @nerowulfee9210
    @nerowulfee9210 Před 4 lety +36

    Printing press is great invention, I printed my diploma on it.

    • @aureavita8653
      @aureavita8653 Před 4 lety +1

      @Madolina Degocelli what are you talking about. Do you need a psychiatrist

    • @gileshabibula7006
      @gileshabibula7006 Před 4 lety

      One of my kids printed several of her report cards on our (dot matrix) printer, this was in the early 90's and she'd been on the computer since the mid 80's.

  • @CleanupKrew7
    @CleanupKrew7 Před 4 lety +2

    I finished the last two years of high school remotely at home. I went from mostly C's to a straight A student. I was taught one on one in my home by former college professors and it was definitely the best thing that ever happened to me.

    • @juliocesarsalazargarcia6872
      @juliocesarsalazargarcia6872 Před 2 lety

      Excelent! I hope you continue with your progress. If you need help with math just tell me and I will be glad to help. I teach online.

  • @elfieinblack4618
    @elfieinblack4618 Před 3 lety +1

    Just putting this out there, I’m currently in college taking online classes because of Covid and I’m just going to say it, I HATE ONLINE CLASSES. SO MUCH. I feel like I’m learning nothing. There are certain subjects you just cannot teach online. Creative writing, music, drama, art, creative subjects in general need an in person component to be taught effectively. Robots don’t create, feel, or dream, or anything. I hope education never becomes irrelevant because that would limit artists considerably. And those are the people we’ll need in the future.

  • @DavidMaurand
    @DavidMaurand Před 4 lety +175

    that thing in your back pocket has access to facts - and an even larger universe of un-facts.

    • @shacktime
      @shacktime Před 4 lety +2

      Isn’t deregulation awesome😃🤔😏

    • @LunaBari
      @LunaBari Před 4 lety +1

      Un-facts?

    • @incognitotorpedo42
      @incognitotorpedo42 Před 4 lety +5

      @@LunaBari also known as lies.

    • @ptronic
      @ptronic Před 4 lety +24

      which is why educatioon should be about critical thinking and data sorting instead of useless memorisation

    • @bicyclebookster6510
      @bicyclebookster6510 Před 4 lety

      @@LunaBari maybe an un-fact is like an alternative fact?

  • @CaedenV
    @CaedenV Před 4 lety +91

    Me: Sweet! Joe Scott on a Sunday!
    My Wife: It's Monday
    Me: Shit! I'm late for work!
    My Wife: *facepalm*

  • @jeremykiahsobyk102
    @jeremykiahsobyk102 Před 4 lety +92

    Elder at my church literally used this phrase: "I used to do my sums at night by the light of a kerosene lantern."

    • @MrDogonjon
      @MrDogonjon Před 4 lety +2

      What is "To Burn the Midnight Oil"? Literally church for 500, Alex!

    • @MrDogonjon
      @MrDogonjon Před 4 lety +1

      I saw the movie "The Twonkey" as a child. It disrupts my ability to trust artificial intelligence to this day.

    • @MrDogonjon
      @MrDogonjon Před 4 lety

      Or Jimi Hendrix 'Burning The Midnight Lamp".

    • @MrDogonjon
      @MrDogonjon Před 4 lety

      What is "I have No Complaint... I'm Going Home!"?

    • @nehalmahmudkhan1549
      @nehalmahmudkhan1549 Před 4 lety +1

      They do that in United States as well ?!. Damn

  • @TheShannon2288
    @TheShannon2288 Před 4 lety +2

    Thanks Joe! I have been talking about this subject for years. Dad always pointed out "Autodidacts are great but most of us need credentials"

  • @melstark3466
    @melstark3466 Před 4 lety +1

    I’m always amazed at why someone would thumbs down your vids. As a college educator who is frustrated with the mentality of today’s students...I thought this vid was great. Keep it up.

  • @aprilkurtz1589
    @aprilkurtz1589 Před 4 lety +56

    I WISH I had been a senior in high school this year. No stupid prom, graduation, let alone going to school.

    • @OddZodd
      @OddZodd Před 4 lety +2

      Oh yeah, i almost forgot i missed all those this year.

    • @EvelynDayless
      @EvelynDayless Před 4 lety +11

      Yea, I don't get the appeal of graduations. Standing in the sun in a glorified shower curtain for four hours listening to bad speeches and a dude slowly name everyone there isn't my idea of a good time. Only reason I went to my high school one was my parents, and I skipped my college graduation.

    • @rachelh9150
      @rachelh9150 Před 4 lety +1

      I wanted to skip graduation because I thought it was pointless, but my parents said no graduation, no party. No party, no money.
      O, ok. I guess I'll go. Lol

  • @Hooyahfish
    @Hooyahfish Před 4 lety +20

    I’m an Army veteran that just graduated college. I’m trying to start my own business in the next 6 months.
    Forget a 9-5 job.

    • @robertjones9606
      @robertjones9606 Před 4 lety +1

      Yep, running your own business is 24-7.....not always a great trade but worth the effort!

    • @gileshabibula7006
      @gileshabibula7006 Před 4 lety +6

      Starting a business and running a business are two different aptitudes and skill sets, being good at one does not necessarily imply that you will be good at the other. Not to mention that about 70%-90% of business is marketing, if you suck at marketing you can be brilliant at almost everything else and still fail.
      Bear in mind that Nikola Tesla was a full blown genius who largely invented our modern world and yet he died broke and alone.

    • @julesmasseffectmusic
      @julesmasseffectmusic Před 4 lety +1

      Good luck word of.mouth is gold if it's a local business.

    • @bikerfirefarter7280
      @bikerfirefarter7280 Před 3 lety

      ​@@gileshabibula7006 correct. good advice. you listening hooyahfish?

    • @bikerfirefarter7280
      @bikerfirefarter7280 Před 3 lety

      ​ see @Giles Habibula ! correct. good advice. you listening hooyahfish?

  • @Lord.Kiltridge
    @Lord.Kiltridge Před 4 lety +70

    When they asked me about graduation, I said "Mail it to me." I was glad to be out and I wasn't in any way interested in going back. Even for a visit. Besides I already had a job. Technically, two.

    • @ourstate100
      @ourstate100 Před 4 lety +3

      I graduated in 2015 and I wish this is how it happened haha

    • @magisterrleth3129
      @magisterrleth3129 Před 4 lety +8

      I graduated in 2019. I really didn't want to sit around for four hours while 1000+ kids graduated, so I just smoked some pot with my friends and we went to In-N-Out. I got the diploma in the mail.

    • @harish2309
      @harish2309 Před 4 lety

      ​@@magisterrleth3129 to be honest, a diploma you spent a few months on is a bit different than a 2 year Post-Graduate degree, buddy.

    • @stumccabe
      @stumccabe Před 4 lety +1

      Me too, I had no interest in a stupid ceremony. I had my degree - bye, I'm outta here.

    • @magisterrleth3129
      @magisterrleth3129 Před 4 lety +5

      @@harish2309 I spent 4 years on that diploma, buddy.

  • @extropiantranshuman
    @extropiantranshuman Před 4 lety +1

    If I created a school - I would let kids know:
    0) kids picking what they want to do and seeking it - i.e. forming the mindset
    1) what is the future technology being worked on for them
    2) how it works (plus the base knowledge to get to that)
    3) what needs to be solved
    4) how to use it
    5) what to use it for
    6) what would be a better idea for future situations that these technologies are used
    7) ethics - is it ok to use and work on these tech
    8) bases - fundamental topics that help one learn everything - the basis - like arithmetic in math. Calculus doesn't help with arithmetic, but it does work the other way around. The bases I know are academics, art, and athletics, with a little bit of culture - mind, soul, body, and outside perspective!
    9) the past trends that got to where we are and what the future holds: like the Dorling Kindersley books - like the Visual Timeline of Transportation.
    10) how to act like a hive mind
    11) how to automate and archive what one knows to help others

  • @JM7284
    @JM7284 Před 4 lety +2

    I mostly agree with you... I'm a teacher and the two things I really teach (subject doesn't matter because they're all the same if you're really teaching today) is troubleshooting and research. How to work through a problem and how to research to find legit answers to the problem. But that can be taught via distance education or by watching CZcams to a certain extent. Why schools matter is that they teach kids how to socialize. The kids that have the toughest time in school are the ones that have social issues. And look at American society today. The folks with the greatest social issues the ones causing all the chaos.

  • @rickrack78
    @rickrack78 Před 4 lety +64

    Didn’t Einstein say something like, I don’t know everything, I just know where to look for it?

    • @user-hf9hf6hw8j
      @user-hf9hf6hw8j Před 4 lety +1

      Yes

    • @user-hf9hf6hw8j
      @user-hf9hf6hw8j Před 4 lety +1

      I think so.

    • @daba27
      @daba27 Před 4 lety +2

      I hope so.

    • @bloodgain
      @bloodgain Před 4 lety +8

      Closer to "I don't *need* to know everything, I just need to know where to look for it when I need it." I'm not 100% sure he said that, though. I do know it's a confirmed quote that he said, "I never commit to memory anything that can be looked up in a book", although it's been a while since I looked at the reference -- an authorized biography, I believe -- so I may have the exact wording off a bit.

    • @tisjester
      @tisjester Před 4 lety +3

      Albert Einstein was once asked: “What is the speed of sound?” Without batting an eye he answered cheerfully: “I don’t know. I don’t burden my memory with such facts that I can easily find in any textbook.”

  • @Mech299
    @Mech299 Před 4 lety +14

    That was an EXCELLENT segue. Like, god-tier segue.
    "Let me tell you what happened when I went to school!"
    "...What's a school?"

  • @NunoCordeiroPT
    @NunoCordeiroPT Před 4 lety +14

    "Everybody (...) has been shaped by a teacher who cared".
    I must be really unlucky. I had some pretty good teacher (and a few epically bad ones) but I can't think of one that "shaped" me. The closest would be my project supervisor at the university.
    Now, throw in books and the Internet... and that's a different story. Tim Ferriss has influenced my lifestyle. Sam Harris has shaped the way I think about a lot of different subjects. Robert Heinlein and Neil Strauss made me rethink a lot of concepts we take for granted. Dude, even CZcams has influenced me more than any teacher. People like Mark Rober, Steve Mould and Neil deGrasse Tyson help me love learning more and more. Jon Stewart, John Oliver and (again) Sam Harris have contributed tremendously to my political views.
    I wish I had been as inspired by a teacher as you are talking about. Maybe I wouldn't have hated school and slacked off so much. I was bored out of my mind on >95% of classes I ever had.
    And I don't even think it was mainly the teachers fault... Students are too heterogeneous and I was on one of the edges of the bell curve. They were never catering to my needs...
    Worst part? Everything I just wrote is extremely clear now. But it was anything but clear at the time and I was absolutely incapable of understanding everything that was wrong in my education.
    Apologies for the rant. Great video, Joe! I know I didn't include you on the names above, but I do subscribe and watch most of your stuff.

    • @psikeyhackr6914
      @psikeyhackr6914 Před 4 lety

      In a bad way! A nun told me that l would "get into a good high school but you won't do well."

    • @michaeljames5936
      @michaeljames5936 Před 4 lety

      Sorry again, i guess you just happened to cite the people I detest, especially as decent people are fooled by them. i know many good people who think harris is a philosopher, yet i have never heard a single original idea pass his lips, although he does package other's ideas well, yet he slips in enough bigotry to appal me. NDeG Tyson is similar and supports the militarisation of space and thus can see no future for humanity any brighter than our present destructive trajectory.

    • @arthas640
      @arthas640 Před 4 lety +2

      I've had exactly 3 teachers in my life that gave a damn, counting preschool through high school, a bit of college, and the technical school I went to. My teachers actually accused me of cheating and tried holding me back a year more than once because I wouldnt conform to what they wanted and because I didnt socialize much. Like for reading and writing I never read the assigned books so they thought I had a learning disability, I was always reading books like National Geographic in elementary school and they assumed I was just looking at the pictures, but when i took a standardized test (one of the computer ones where the questions get progressively harder the more right answers you get) and I ended up maxing it out (it only went up to 10th or 12th grade level since we were in the 4th grade) so they made me retake it by myself AFTER trying to get me expelled for cheating and I maxed it out a second time. It wasnt that I could read, i just hated the books they forced us to read.

    • @Tugedhel
      @Tugedhel Před 4 lety

      I got to be part of an experiment designed by the State of Washington school system in 1972 to prove that teachers were needed. In second grade I sat at a table by myself in a large room full of tables. Each had different permutations of students and teachers. (1:1 at one table, 2:4 at another, 1:5). I, as the really luck student in this instance of the experiment got to be 0:1. I got to show what would happen to a student with no teacher. I was handed books on the fist day of the experiment like all of the other students and was handed a slip of paper every day that had my reading assignments and pages of workbooks I was supposed to do. They loved me because I did nothing... ever. I spent all my time wondering why I was being punished. I even asked once why I was being punished and they told me I wasn't. When I explained why I thought I must be they told me to switch where I was sitting at my table so I now faced the wall instead of the open room. This was second grade and in my normal 1st grade the kids who were bad were made to sit by themselves. This is the kid version of solitary confinement. yes... I was really "affected" by the teachers who designed this experiment. As a 54 year old I now still deal with their impact. I was so screwed up I would have killed myself at the age of 10 if it were not for an ex-teacher who reached out to me. She had quit the school system after being scolded and chastised for reaching out to troubled students.

    • @NunoCordeiroPT
      @NunoCordeiroPT Před 4 lety

      @@michaeljames5936 : Pretty impressive how you seem to be wrong about pretty much everything you said. Especially on your attempted description of me where you managed not just to fail, but to fail ABSOLUTELY.
      So yeah, maybe the problem is that you jump to conclusions and know nothing about the people you so intensely hate. Ever read Stranger in a Strange Land? What about Waking Up?
      Seems to me you only know the bottom two because they were on TV...
      Anyway, people with such strong opinions about shit they know little about are rarely capable of nuanced thought. So... stay forever right and righteous!

  • @gloriascientiae7435
    @gloriascientiae7435 Před 3 lety

    I could read like when I was 4, and I knew everything about human anatomy at 6, was bullied for years by students and teachers alike, causing me to drop out and develop depression a drug addiction at 17.
    Then I taught myself several programming languages, a passion that kinda grew outta hand.
    Then finally i decided to give it a try again and im now 27 and happily studying computer science at the dutch open university.
    Am actually quite thanksful such initiatives exist.

  • @Mtaalas
    @Mtaalas Před 4 lety +1

    Thing is that in school you have someone who's an expert to ask questions when they arrive and get personalized answer and help clearing up a confusion... those questions or misunderstandings can pile up when you're self educating and make things worse over time.
    I have hard time learning something completely new that I don't have base knowledge of without a tutor. It's not impossible, it's just much harder.

  • @gamerdad2015
    @gamerdad2015 Před 4 lety +8

    This is why Start ups like Brilliant & Curiosity (among many others) Stream will start to make traditional academia obsolete.

  • @saintchuck9857
    @saintchuck9857 Před 4 lety +34

    I just got used to you teaching me everything I need to know.

    • @alternavent
      @alternavent Před 4 lety

      My wife likes to tell me that I'll never learn anything watching CZcams videos... Then I point to Joe.

  • @briansosick2014
    @briansosick2014 Před 4 lety +95

    Never been this early even for class

    • @riyadzahdour1302
      @riyadzahdour1302 Před 4 lety +1

      I've never been on time for class

    • @artdonovandesign
      @artdonovandesign Před 4 lety

      @Brian: Right? I start checking in at 3:00 am, Monday morning for each week's show.

  • @damenwhelan3236
    @damenwhelan3236 Před 4 lety

    My mom is from rural Ireland.
    I visited the ruins of the small church that was converted to a school house.
    Her teacher was also a nun who lived in the house.
    A 20foot by 30foot stone building.

  • @missheadbanger
    @missheadbanger Před 4 lety

    I graduated 9 years ago and I'm 28, I'm envious of all the technology that we have today that could have really helped me in school. I took my time during High School, I enjoyed sleeping in and taking afternoon classes. I hated High School, but I loved to learn. In school I loved art, history, literature and science. I never liked math, I couldn't wrap my head around it. Understanding the basics of math is good enough for me, plus I have my phone for that.
    I love the channel, it helps quench my thirst for knowledge, because I always have questions.

  • @_maximouse_448
    @_maximouse_448 Před 4 lety +127

    I like this chanel so much, that I'm gonna name my daughter after you...

    • @crysanthiumvega
      @crysanthiumvega Před 4 lety +28

      @33 SixtyNine we should encourage people to to choose their own names when they're old enough

    • @Prophezora
      @Prophezora Před 4 lety +32

      @33 SixtyNine you shouldn't have kids.

    • @adamjohnson8862
      @adamjohnson8862 Před 4 lety +3

      In all fairness Scott is known to be female as well as male 🤷🏻‍♂️

    • @nicanornunez9787
      @nicanornunez9787 Před 4 lety +8

      @@adamjohnson8862 Jo Scott Maximhouse

    • @simonmorgan225
      @simonmorgan225 Před 4 lety +2

      @@crysanthiumvega it would be confusing until then. Unless they just get numbers until they choose

  • @TheTrueJuan
    @TheTrueJuan Před 4 lety +4

    I am so glad you mentioned the ADHD student experience, I was diagnosed when I was in 4th or 5th grade around the early 2000s and they were trying every thing under the sun to get me to focus. Experimental drug trials, music therapy, special coaching. Community college math was a special kind of hell, I would wish only on those who cut me off in traffic abruptly.
    Education has always been changing to meet the needs of a society. For those future learners who may get access to specialized learning, it almost makes all the pain and suffering worth it. So thank you Joe for the hope.

  • @ginosensei
    @ginosensei Před 4 lety +36

    I'm a teacher and I need this

    • @timgleason2527
      @timgleason2527 Před 4 lety +1

      God bless. I lasted 1 year. 😂

    • @ginosensei
      @ginosensei Před 4 lety +3

      Hahahaha. . Good thing I'm teaching college students they're more manageable 😅

    • @ginosensei
      @ginosensei Před 4 lety +4

      When he said teacher deserves better. . Awww. . I'm touched.

    • @kaiying74
      @kaiying74 Před 4 lety +1

      @@timgleason2527 Lol me too!! Nothing to do with the kids, everything to do with the (lack of) funding & poor management at District level.

  • @xpndblhero5170
    @xpndblhero5170 Před 9 měsíci +1

    I swear to God, if I lose the opportunity to say "When I went to school I walked 20 miles uphill both ways" when I get old I'm going to be furious..... 😠😡🤬💩
    😂😂

  • @artsymarcy7499
    @artsymarcy7499 Před 4 lety +1

    I'm a fifth grade graduate and thought I'd be relaxing at the beach in the summer but no,I'm stuck inside and it's honestly not far off from my regular life,which makes me sad....

  • @plederfagella9774
    @plederfagella9774 Před 4 lety +290

    "School isn't for smart people Morty"
    -Rick Sanchez

    • @matrixarsmusicworkshop561
      @matrixarsmusicworkshop561 Před 4 lety

      school is for dumb ppl

    • @scifino1
      @scifino1 Před 4 lety +22

      Well western schools were basically made to get students used to being worker bees.

    • @arthas640
      @arthas640 Před 4 lety +14

      @@scifino1 some Eastern schools can be even worse since they stress rote learning and memorizing facts as opposed to problem solving skills and creativity. This is especially common in countries with rigid social structures like those found in some dictatorships, authoritarian countries, religiously dominated societies, and in countries with strong Confucian influence like China. Some movements started in the West like Waldorf schools stress creative problem solving over memorization so as to avoid the "mindless worker bee" mentality and the majority of those types of schools are found in Europe. It'd be more accurate to say "American public schools are basically just made to get students used to being worker bees".

    • @robydee920
      @robydee920 Před 4 lety +3

      @@scifino1 Well is that why I basically never worked one day while in the school?Western schools(at least the one I went to)were made for anyone who want to learn a skill that will help them to work what they like in life,in my case a maritime college so I can become captain(I'm first officer for now) and so I can work on cargo ships which I loved all my life.If you want to go in direction of white or western privilege then I must tell you that I was so privileged that by the time I was 16 I already lived thru four years of war back home in Croatia.Western schools are not perfect but at the moment their the best system we have but what's not good at all is bringing politics in schools(colleges)of course if that college is not some political college.In fact our system is so good that you can choose to not work a day in your life but instead be on welfare and feed in public kitchen your whole life.

    • @alj6194
      @alj6194 Před 4 lety +17

      I guess it’s way smarter to quote cartoon characters than going to school.

  • @thegoodspringguy
    @thegoodspringguy Před 4 lety +10

    Great tangent cam, Joe. I can't tell you how much it means to me that you acknowledged that. Keep up the good work dude.

  • @jerry3790
    @jerry3790 Před 4 lety +4

    The problem with online learning is that it requires everyone to have access to the internet, which isn’t true everywhere. Often it limits the amount of work that those with internet are able to do in order to not put anyone at a disadvantage

    • @manwithoutaplanet
      @manwithoutaplanet Před 4 lety

      Well.... Elon is working on it. It's called Starlink -> www.starlink.com/

    • @Burt1038
      @Burt1038 Před 4 lety +1

      I think i's stupid that public education by default makes everyone go the speed of the slowest student.

    • @jerry3790
      @jerry3790 Před 4 lety

      Jakob Skurdal Starlink, while a massive achievement, is not the solution. The solution is getting these people out of poverty

  • @lynnashley6247
    @lynnashley6247 Před 4 lety +1

    I'm 74 yo and went to a one room school in PA. Five large windows facing north. Each
    row of desk was for one of 5 grades. Heated with a pot-belly stove. Mrs McCoy was the
    one & only teacher. Still on google earth at 40.54967 -78.62656 w/ windows boarded.

  • @Smhallways
    @Smhallways Před 4 lety +6

    20:15 "We are not just a collection of memories and facts."
    That is excatly what we are. WTF.

    • @NoName-de1fn
      @NoName-de1fn Před 4 lety

      How so?

    • @arfyness
      @arfyness Před 3 lety

      No, we're mostly a collection of patterns. Some of those are memories and facts, and most of those are far from error-free.

  • @coreyeaston6823
    @coreyeaston6823 Před 4 lety +5

    My mother attended a one room schoolhouse in Manitoba (Canada).

  • @donaldbrown3016
    @donaldbrown3016 Před 4 lety +11

    Hey! I'm watching this and I went to a one room schoolhouse

    • @davidanderson_surrey_bc
      @davidanderson_surrey_bc Před 4 lety

      And for gym class the teacher sent you all outside to chop wood and feed the horses.

  • @sakishrist
    @sakishrist Před 4 lety +4

    "It feels like it matters at the time" - and I was there on my graduation yawning and checking my watch.. ahh, good times.

  • @inemanja
    @inemanja Před 4 lety

    With all info available online, the main problem is to know how to google something - to ask the right question and to know how to separate good from bad info... Without that problem, everyone could be an IT expert...
    and yeah, a personalized search (in exchange for a "little privacy") is very helpful.

  • @eliasshedd
    @eliasshedd Před 4 lety

    Joe; I'm 44. I'm basically the same age you are, right? My grandmother went to a one room school house. She was born in 1918. The school was made of brick and still crumbling at a corner 800 feet away from her house till I was in high school.
    Loved the video. I slept through it a couple of times and had some great inventive dreams. Including a new design for a seaplane, and a halfpipe made of water where the ramps are made of jets of water. Its great,

  • @psicommander
    @psicommander Před 4 lety +8

    The "AI"-algorithm of amazon thinks after I buy a new toilet seat, I have to be offered way more of them. That's rather artificial dumbness. I doubt that an AI approach is even applied here.

    • @JustAGirlWhoLovesCats
      @JustAGirlWhoLovesCats Před 4 lety +3

      Well, I bought my brother's headstone (gravestone) on Etsy. Now every time I go to Etsy they are trying to sell me headstones!😕

    • @kindlin
      @kindlin Před 4 lety +2

      @@JustAGirlWhoLovesCats
      Exactly, makes no sense. Maybe it should be trying to sell you life insurance next instead.

    • @hansisbrucker813
      @hansisbrucker813 Před 4 lety +3

      AI stands for Artificial Imbecile right? 😉

    • @arfyness
      @arfyness Před 3 lety +1

      I bought a kitchen faucet last year, and I'm still occasionally seeing faucets recommended for me. Still not entirely sure if it's super stupid, or it knows something I don't about the faucet I bought...

  • @TheWebstaff
    @TheWebstaff Před 4 lety +26

    Well as someone who was already working in IT from the age of 15, when I was done with school it just meant I could now work full time and earn more money so was quite happy to skip all the end of school BS.
    My only regret is that because of that it put me off higher education when it would have been free to me whereas now anything I want to do would cost a fortune.
    So instead I found google..
    Now I just learn just enough to do what I want.

    • @smcic
      @smcic Před 4 lety +2

      Using google will work to some extent, but the people who are really good at what they do and are respected need to have the ability to troubleshoot and lead. You can’t really do this by googling. I get what you are saying, but as someone with 20 years experience in IT, higher education definitely helped me.

    • @papaburger
      @papaburger Před 4 lety

      Companies can replace you with google . But .. wait .. who put up all the info that you can google ?

    • @TheWebstaff
      @TheWebstaff Před 4 lety +1

      @@BobDevV asked for work experience there, at the end of two weeks got offered a weekend job doing pc repairs.
      If you've got the enthusiasm, interest and some level of skills the only thing holding you back is excuses..

  • @chefbennyj
    @chefbennyj Před 4 lety +41

    When I went into my son's grade 1 class and realized there where no chalkboards and chalk. 😳

    • @citationsloth
      @citationsloth Před 4 lety +5

      Magic markers and projectors

    • @jps101574
      @jps101574 Před 4 lety +5

      If you had chalk, balloons, and peanut butter in a classroom today, half of the kids would die of an allergic reaction.

    • @citationsloth
      @citationsloth Před 4 lety +4

      @Samantha Womer
      oooh are those finally good i remember them when i was younger but it was not that good thats 20 years ago tho
      shit am i old ?
      im old
      when did this happen
      its like a age ninja came out of no where and slapped me with old

    • @PinataOblongata
      @PinataOblongata Před 4 lety

      @@citationsloth Would you prefer to get slapped by he age ninja or be hyper aware of your gradual decline in every area each day?

    • @citationsloth
      @citationsloth Před 4 lety

      @@PinataOblongata that's the worst part now I'm hyper aware
      It's like he timed his slap for maximum pain

  • @cdorman11
    @cdorman11 Před 2 lety +1

    15:33 "I think a lot of the best innovations come when different ideas cross-pollinate, and the best way to make that happen is to have a whole lot of ideas in your head."
    Learning mostly on a need-to-know basis could make for an awkward interview, repeatedly asking to refer to your phone. Innovation isn't built on sand.

  • @Kurzes_Spiel
    @Kurzes_Spiel Před 2 lety +1

    I'm a high school student and I have used pretty much all of these education methods. I was homeschooled for most of my life so I had plenty of time to watch educational youtube content (like yours!) and make things with my hands. Via these methods I have fairly extensive knowledge in evolutionary biology, linguistics, and anthropology. Through your channel I also have learned a lot about science and technology.
    This semester I am also attending mostly online classes through a website called Sakai, which my school uses. A lot of the things you described ring true to me. I honestly am living this future which you describe.

  • @oxenforde
    @oxenforde Před 4 lety +4

    13:05 Trade schools ... " ... these have been criminally undervalued, for way too long ..."

    • @arthas640
      @arthas640 Před 4 lety +1

      My state has had a deficit massive of tradesman for decades due to the government stressing college as the only way to go (my public schools said if you went to college for even 2 years your salary would automatically double, and that our only choices were college or menial jobs like flipping burgers). We basically ran out of skilled trades like electricians and plumbers, so the costs nearly doubled in 10 years and as a result we now have a TON of unlicensed people doing the work and they often dont know what they're doing so it actually hurts anyone who is a licensed tradesman since now you're charging more but competing against alot of guys who can massively undercut you. The cost to hire a handyman is roughly $20-25/hr and he'll happily do plumbing but a plumber costs roughly $100--120/hr so most business and homeowners will go to the handyman doing work illegally.

  • @HayderAbdulridha
    @HayderAbdulridha Před 4 lety +7

    Joe, I was born in Warka, or Uruk as it's sometimes called. It's the first place where writing happened.

    • @jimsonbonilla8233
      @jimsonbonilla8233 Před 3 lety

      So sad islam took over that place. But I guess that's how history is, societies rise and fall and got replaced by another, and then than one rises and fall and got replaced by another one. It's the transition that makes things ugly...

  • @Quadrenaro
    @Quadrenaro Před 4 lety +5

    I'm planning to homeschool my daughter. I was homeschooled my last four years, mostly teaching myself. I grew the most during that time and learned so much more. I was in my first year of homeschool, and remember reading about the USSR for the first time. That was about 2009.
    Also worth noting that I often did a months worth of work in five days.

  • @ipokemom2968
    @ipokemom2968 Před 3 lety +2

    I don’t feel like schools are evolving that well around technology. I live in London and my secondary hated it and gave punishments for any type of tech like phones, fit watches even a Nokia brick!

  • @Seamonkey555
    @Seamonkey555 Před 3 lety

    My granddad who would've turned 99 this month dropped out of school in 6th grade because his mom became ill and his dad needed to care for her. He became the main provider by workingtheir farm. He had a successful career as a plant manager never telling Dixie Co that he couldn't write his reports, my grandma did that for him. He had a very enjoyable adult life & never wanted to see a farm again. He did, however, have the best string beans in his back yard. I miss him. ❤

  • @Coconut-219
    @Coconut-219 Před 4 lety +33

    "What happens when we all have access to any information we could ever need on our phones at all times?"
    .
    Capitalist: *Think of the profit margins if we figure out how to monetize this!!!*
    .
    " Get 20% off your Brilliant subscription! "

    • @sidpomy
      @sidpomy Před 4 lety +3

      That same capitalist mentality produced Udemy and other online learning sites. I learned more about software development (my actual degree) from for-profit online portals than my actual college (and it cost much less). You shouldn't be so reductionist in your ideology.

    • @novajam1769
      @novajam1769 Před 4 lety +4

      A.H Man government starts a lot of that stuff mostly for national defense and then the private sector takes those things and brings them to levels the government never could.

    • @meshtexture3490
      @meshtexture3490 Před 4 lety +1

      Wow what a deal! Way better than government schools. How can we do more to get this brighter future OP is presenting?

    • @leonherrera7957
      @leonherrera7957 Před 4 lety +1

      @ so yeah, the sum of your comments only make me think that the best approach is having both the government AND the market working together (or at least balancing each other out), and I really don't care if I'm being a reductionist here. Thanks

  • @4077Disc
    @4077Disc Před 4 lety +12

    19:10 having just watched your neuralink episode, I think you forgot to include that synthy cyber punk music

  • @davestagler5075
    @davestagler5075 Před 4 lety +8

    so what you're really trying to say is forget about school

  • @thorerik678
    @thorerik678 Před 4 lety

    I just retired from Civil Service where I served as a Curriculum and Training Specialist that oversaw the training of our Navy's submarine sailors. Did that for about 18 years. In 2000 we were going to radically change our education process. We had decided that computers were going to take the place of seasoned experienced sailors who when there time was up serving on a submarine for a few years they would rotate to the schoolhouse and share their knowledge and skills gained while at sea with young new inexperienced sailors. Nothing like a subject matter expert to teach a subject. We got about three years into that and quickly ran out of money. We found that for every hour of computer based curriculum delivered cost about $80,000! We didn't have much to show for it, at least I never saw any of it make it to the schoolhouse. The long and short of it was we had to go back to the old system. My point is that computers can do some great stuff but I have also seen what happens when it goes wrong. It wasn't unknown about clicking through a computer course as fast as you could so you could go on liberty. Many people were bored with it all. Classroom instruction always produced the best results. The key was a good instructor, someone who could their students to self-actualize. When I was an instructor it gave me great satisfaction to see the light bulb light up when someone "got it". They discovered it and that kind of teaching stays with you. Yes we do a lot of drills and follow procedures but it is also very important to teach independent thought and action when confronted with off the wall situations.

  • @aarinteich
    @aarinteich Před 4 lety

    When my family moved to this little town of about 100 houses, (which was not way out in the boondocks) they were building an elementary school to house K-8 grades. The school they were moving from was a two-room school. The year was 1972. The little two-room school has become the town library. C-19 has taught us we really don’t need schools at all anymore (nor the library, for that matter)

  • @bexowr
    @bexowr Před 4 lety +6

    I can't be the only one who finds the idea of merging with technology uncomfortable but doesn't know why.......

    • @boygenius538_8
      @boygenius538_8 Před 4 lety +2

      Because nothing is private anymore, except the few inches in our skull, once that’s gone George Orwell’s 1984 will look like a joke in comparison.

    • @arfyness
      @arfyness Před 3 lety +1

      Late stage capitalism and various governments have done quite enough with technology already. I'm quite sure that's exactly why I don't want it inside my mind.

  • @swagswap
    @swagswap Před 4 lety +4

    "The emptiness of adulthood" -- could have had the record scratch right there.

  • @simjo59
    @simjo59 Před 4 lety +6

    AH! I watched this with captions on. Before, I always had mis-heard that Martin Luther had nailed 95 Feces to a door. It seemed unlikely they'd stay intact for any length of time.

  • @davidstewart5811
    @davidstewart5811 Před 3 lety +1

    My dad (born 1907) went thru the 7th grade. My mom graduated from high school and even got a teaching certificate. Our biggest problem in the US today is continuation of the local Independent School District which only perpetuates bias, discrimination, religious myth and social stratification. We need a national education system where all students receive the same education. Schools should be for socialization not education. Education should concentrate on distance education, student centered format and get away from lecture based education. We could move to regional schools - in the neighborhood - and get away from the massive expensive schools we are now used to. Students should gather for extra curricular classes and those few subjects such as physical sciences that do profit from class room instructions. We should concentrate on teaching students HOW to think rather than simply learn how to repeat bits of data.

  • @a-man2246
    @a-man2246 Před 3 lety +1

    I remember hating my highschool graduation. I knew i did a good job and it was my own achievement not that of my school (our school would use graduation events as marketing campaigns). Also being introverted didnt help. My idea of a good graduation was relaxing with people who really meant to me. Not a bunch of strangers cheering half heartedly as we pretended the educational system isnt isnt as disfunctional as it actually is

  • @nice2008c
    @nice2008c Před 4 lety +17

    Church: Hmm, we have all the money, land, power and our words influence the illiterate people. Those fools!
    (Mass publication of books)
    People: We have questions.
    Church: Uh oh!

    • @mrrandom1265
      @mrrandom1265 Před 4 lety

      People: we have questions.
      Church: we have no answers.
      Most people: that's fine, we're still friends.

  • @iancornell141
    @iancornell141 Před 4 lety +23

    I couldnt attend my graduation ceremony because I couldnt afford the cap and gown at the time. I chose to pay rent instead

  • @foxtrotunit1269
    @foxtrotunit1269 Před 4 lety +15

    14:16 that sounds like SpaceX :)

    • @balazsbelavari7556
      @balazsbelavari7556 Před 4 lety +2

      That’s very very SpaceX

    • @carlodave9
      @carlodave9 Před 4 lety +1

      Exclusivity has always been the key to a great education. SpaceX takes this to the extreme - screening out kids with less exceptional parents. The question is: what to do with the non-exceptional masses? Should public schools just be dumpsters for private schools that get to be highly exclusive?

    • @nicksalvatore5717
      @nicksalvatore5717 Před 4 lety +1

      @@carlodave9 thats literally how it already is

    • @carlodave9
      @carlodave9 Před 4 lety +2

      @@nicksalvatore5717 It is. But the trend is toward increasing exclusivity in the name of quality (not equal) education. Charter schools are a curveball: tax-payer funded public schools, privately subsidized, that are allowed to be exclusive. Then then non-exclusive public schools are forced to accept the rejects and the rest (Special Ed, ELL, poor) and get blamed for underperforming -- by Bill Gates, Musk, etc.. Personally, I'd rather not see a return to more feudalistic social class structures -- albeit corporate feudalism -- but maybe that can't be helped. America tried though.

    • @morosis82
      @morosis82 Před 4 lety

      Its fundamentally Agile. Not sure if agile comes from software land, but it's super heavily used in software companies to varying degrees of success.
      I'm impressed actually that SpaceX has made it work so well, with the capital costs of failure. In software if what you built over the last sprint doesn't work, well it's just a couple of people's time, not millions of dollars of steel and complex fabrication.

  • @kathiebradley5881
    @kathiebradley5881 Před rokem

    My mom and dad both only completed up to 8th grade, born 1954 and 1938 respectively. My paternal grandmother, born in 1912, taught school when she was 13-14 when the teacher was sick and didn't show up.

  • @wickedfifth
    @wickedfifth Před 4 lety

    9:40. My mother was a teacher for almost 40 years. She retired in 2018. Crazy changes. And she sees the importance/opportunity in educational change.