Back tension release explained how the pros do it ☞ Jimi Ellis ☜

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  • čas přidán 10. 09. 2024
  • levi Morgan uses a scott exxus release for first half of comps and then switches to a 3 finger longhorn for the second half of all comps here is levi talking about back tension
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Komentáře • 105

  • @tyrranicalt-rad6164
    @tyrranicalt-rad6164 Před rokem +1

    Thank you ! I know nothing about bows or archery and watched 20 videos and still didn't understand wtf they were talking about or how they fired the arrow. You explained it in the first 10 seconds. Great video.

    • @JimiEllis
      @JimiEllis  Před rokem +1

      Thanks heaps bro glad it helped

  • @ultimateflash7792
    @ultimateflash7792 Před 5 lety +7

    Excellent video bro. I watched 7 videos before yours trying to understand how these releases work and didn't understand a thing until I watched this! Perfectly informative and exactly what I needed to know. Thank you!

    • @JimiEllis
      @JimiEllis  Před 5 lety

      Glad it helped bro

    • @7wardie
      @7wardie Před 2 lety

      haha same bro exactly the same! the amount of times he says "back tension" after 1:50 had me laughing. huge fan of back tension now though

    • @JimiEllis
      @JimiEllis  Před 2 lety +1

      Back tension

    • @7wardie
      @7wardie Před 2 lety

      @@JimiEllis definitly up for more jargon. You say it 31 times

  • @r1sabotage
    @r1sabotage Před 3 lety

    Wow what a great video. I've searched all over and no one explained how it truly worked until i got to your video. Great presentation and explanation... Thank you...

  • @mrblister6289
    @mrblister6289 Před 6 lety +1

    Hey Jimi, I have been shooting compound for 2 years now, never went to a club or had any coaching, all learned from youtube (nearest club is 2 hours drive away). Last weekend I did that drive to the nearest club, thinking in two years of solo learning must have picked up some bad habits, it would be good to have a lesson. Actually, I was not as bad as I thought I was, but the best thing I have picked up is that I need a new release. Been looking at thumb and backtension releases for 2 days now. Your explanation of back tension is by fat the best I have found in 6 hours off googling. Thank you so much for that. Keep up the good work. You are a saviour to punters like me who live in the sticks.

    • @JimiEllis
      @JimiEllis  Před 6 lety

      +Yuri Marinovich thanks heaps bro if u need and tips or tricks u can come on the ExA discord and we can help u right away

  • @kevanhawkinsable
    @kevanhawkinsable Před 7 lety

    Best explanation I've heard. Been bow hunting for 20 years and just picked up used the other day. This really broke it down. Much thanks

    • @JimiEllis
      @JimiEllis  Před 7 lety

      +kevan hawkins no worries im glad it helped

  • @cp-on6qr
    @cp-on6qr Před 7 lety +5

    You are the man!! So many bullshit theories about the back tension release aids out there. Your explanations are clear and comprehensive. Keep up the good work dude!!

  • @thein-tele-gent5654
    @thein-tele-gent5654 Před 6 lety

    Thank you so much for making this video! I'm new to archery in the last 6 or 7 months, and have been dead-lucky enough to have been regularly shooting with one of the top compound archers in my country. He has taught me a tremendous amount about the sport and technique, but your explaination in regards to using a "back tension" release is about 100 times easier to understand, and I'm going to tell him! Haha. Keep throwing up content, you're an excellent coach!

  • @MrScottViolette
    @MrScottViolette Před 7 lety

    My son is starting with back tension release and this was a wonderful video with explanations.

  • @s2perman
    @s2perman Před 4 lety

    That was a good real world explanation. I didn’t know you really release with some part of your fingers. Or a tilting affect

  • @josephtreadlightly5686

    Like I was trying to say in the Backyard Archery League video about how I get my Stan SX-3 three finger release to go off. I just hold my hand in the same way. By putting pressure with my pinkie on the top shelf it simply rotates the release down into my thumb that doesn't move. I also get the feeling that I'm getting my 2 shoulder blades pinching together. Very repeatable & most of all it feels natural.

  • @stupidagotts
    @stupidagotts Před 7 lety

    Jimi
    This is a great video! You are such a student of archery.
    There is one tip that Jesse gave me, that I will pass on to you that will
    help you (and your viewers) have more confidence in drawing back and not
    whacking yourself with a right uppercut. He said the first thing he does once
    he hooks the string is put his thumb on the peg. Now you can draw with confidence
    and the pressure between the thumb and forefinfinger will prevent a premature release.
    BUT
    Just to be safe, in addition I just cock my head slightly to the side as I draw
    out of the line of fire (Just in case it goes off... the mechanism can fail or the D-loop could break...you never know)
    and once the string is back I settle my head right back behind the string and start the shot. I also shoot the release with
    the click (I am using the Stan 2-finger onyx) which is also kind of a safeguard to know if my release is close to going off.
    Of the three techniques you mentioned, I personally prefer Jesse's method of relaxation when shooting the hinge.

    • @JimiEllis
      @JimiEllis  Před 7 lety

      +Mik Lep thanks heaps mate ill try and be more confident and see how it goes i havnt seen the onyx ill have to check it out

  • @baodiep7732
    @baodiep7732 Před 8 lety +1

    Short and very easy to understand video! Thanks mate!

  • @DamadaTattoo
    @DamadaTattoo Před 5 lety

    Haha, that last frame!
    I walked away from my creen and came back as the video was finished and got a fright when I came back..... 😂

  • @kb4ua
    @kb4ua Před 7 lety

    Thanks for finally explaining this where people could actually understand. Great Video!! Great Examples!!

  • @stickboy6772
    @stickboy6772 Před 5 lety

    Great video on a subject that seems confusing. True back tension seems to be too unstable for me, when I learned to rotate my release things improved. Good ability to instruct, great demeanor.

  • @holyroller2445
    @holyroller2445 Před 4 lety

    Wow thank you🙏
    Everyone told me to watch John Dudley to learn to shoot a thumb release, I did. This video is better I found relaxing my index finger will hinge and activate thumb trigger. Thanks man!

    • @JimiEllis
      @JimiEllis  Před 4 lety +1

      Thanks bro some ppl like to queeze there little finger to activate the thumb trigger too

  • @johnmarchant5800
    @johnmarchant5800 Před 5 lety

    Great succinct clear description of the different ways of using a hinge release

  • @scottbriggs4960
    @scottbriggs4960 Před 6 lety

    Thee best video of BT releases and the choices how to shoot I have ever seen.

    • @JimiEllis
      @JimiEllis  Před 6 lety +1

      Thanks heaps bro

    • @scottbriggs4960
      @scottbriggs4960 Před 6 lety

      Can you offer some guidance regarding what diameter stick on circle to add to a scope CBE sight for shooting 20 yard 5-spot? 5x lens

    • @JimiEllis
      @JimiEllis  Před 6 lety

      Thats just personal preference bro

  • @scotthughes1458
    @scotthughes1458 Před 6 lety

    That's fucken awesome Jimi. I was not going to bother looking at those types of releases, I love the wrist strap until I saw that

  • @steppedinpoo
    @steppedinpoo Před 5 lety

    Thanks man, I’ve been very curious about these and you explained it well 👍

  • @AVOinc
    @AVOinc Před 8 lety +1

    Thanks for that. I've only always tried one style and was no good at it so went to a trigger release. I'll try the other two styles and see if I can improve on the back tension.

    • @JimiEllis
      @JimiEllis  Před 8 lety

      +Ary van Onselen awesome i hope it can help

  • @chrislindsey3523
    @chrislindsey3523 Před 5 lety

    Great video great explination i love my hinge release only way to shoot properly

  • @donovanstockton44
    @donovanstockton44 Před 6 lety

    Bruh, this is an awesome video. I learned a lot after a shitty day in the office. Seriously, very well done.

  • @afireinside33110
    @afireinside33110 Před 6 lety

    Best explanation ever period the end, thank you

  • @marcelleronquille416
    @marcelleronquille416 Před 6 lety

    helped me 100% you made it so clear.

  • @kymnewman3518
    @kymnewman3518 Před 7 lety

    Hey Jimi, I have looked at almost a hundred vids on releases and back tension. To me, same as you, squeezing back muscles seemed weird because of the amount of movement needed to pull shoulder blades together. Surely this would make the torso move. So I wasn't exactly sure how the release was achieved. You explained it beautifully in the first 30 seconds. This is the most informative vid on topic I have seen. Brilliant. Cheers mate.

    • @JimiEllis
      @JimiEllis  Před 7 lety

      +kym newman thanks heaps mate

    • @gnydick
      @gnydick Před 6 lety

      The scapula movement is very minimal. It takes practice, but you basically set the release hot enough to go off with just a little bit of chest expansion/back tension. Then you need to trust your shot and not worry so much about the results. The more consistent you get, the better your results will be.

    • @JimiEllis
      @JimiEllis  Před 6 lety

      There is no pros that shoot like that unless u r recurve shooter. Its a technique brought from recurve to compound by shit archers who think its the same. what u r talking about is how good recurves go through the click but good recurves hold like twice as much weight as a compound so u need a large muscle group

    • @gnydick
      @gnydick Před 6 lety

      Sorry, Jimi, but unfortunately, you don't know what you're talking about. Nearly every pro will tell you archery is about big muscles, because they are dumb and not twitchy. The fact that you're telling people to consciously activate their fingers is bad advice. The best thing you can achieve it's a subconscious or incidental motion in your fingers due to the back tension. What you're offering is a recipe for target panic and punching the release.

    • @JimiEllis
      @JimiEllis  Před 6 lety

      U have no idea mate i bet u shoot shit scores and say its just about having fun then on the other hand u try and coach ppl cause u think u know it all

  • @TSRThom
    @TSRThom Před 6 lety

    Hi Jimi, now I finally understand the hinge release. Great video.
    Greetings from Germany.
    Btw. I also shoot a Evolve 35

  • @controversialhunter8032

    I do enjoy watching cheers mate!

    • @JimiEllis
      @JimiEllis  Před 6 lety +1

      Thanks heaps mate

    • @controversialhunter8032
      @controversialhunter8032 Před 6 lety +1

      Jimi Ellis right now I'm just shooting my hunting bow. Shoot my first ever indoor today with it. Didn't do well . But learned a ton .
      Met Dee Wilde. Deffenetly want to get a target bow now .

    • @JimiEllis
      @JimiEllis  Před 6 lety

      Awesome

  • @Friends.19166
    @Friends.19166 Před 5 lety +1

    Good vid bro

  • @M60E3MG
    @M60E3MG Před 6 lety

    Thanks for the video! That clears things up. I’m getting back into archery after 30+ years. Shot a compound back before release aids, and I could figure out how most worked. But back-tension? Where’s the trigger!? Thought they were witchcraft until now.

    • @JimiEllis
      @JimiEllis  Před 6 lety

      +Thomas Carlson hahaha its all magic glad u it helped bro

  • @WmLJohnson
    @WmLJohnson Před 7 lety

    Great presentation. I'm sure it will help. I do shoot better groups with a hinge. Nice to see where my own technique meets with other shooters.

    • @JimiEllis
      @JimiEllis  Před 7 lety

      +Bill Johnson awesome im glad it helped hope u have a great day

  • @traindude3968
    @traindude3968 Před 4 lety

    Great vid. Like has been "smashed"

  • @legendaryskulls337
    @legendaryskulls337 Před 7 lety

    All teqniques are great and work perfect I'm still trying to find my sweet spot but my dilemma is as I'm pulling through my shot by relaxing my finger or fingers is I end up dropping my release ?

    • @JimiEllis
      @JimiEllis  Před 7 lety

      +Jason Nester u need to put some tape on the ring finger of the release so it gives it some grib so when you relax it dont slip in your fingers jesse broad water tapes hes release too

  • @tylerpatrick2991
    @tylerpatrick2991 Před 8 lety +2

    back tension

  • @sharkson7725
    @sharkson7725 Před 7 lety

    Levi Morgan way is the best

  • @terrytownsend8462
    @terrytownsend8462 Před 7 lety

    great video

  • @takashi0352
    @takashi0352 Před 7 lety

    I mashed the like button!

  • @randy63o
    @randy63o Před 7 lety

    dude I have a problem and I need help, I use the Stan back tension, but for some reason it releases before I go to my face, (sorry for my English, I'm Mexican) . please help to know what I'm doing wrong :( . I started to use it like three days ago and I didn't have any problem, but I had a training yesterday and it happens what I just told you; it releases before

    • @JimiEllis
      @JimiEllis  Před 7 lety +1

      +randy63o it could be 2 things u the sensitivity screw could of came it got really hot but some stans r not know for that or it could be u r buting pressure on your out side fingers when u draw back try just drawing back with just your index finger and your thumb no other fingers on the release if it still gose off when u draw back like that its the release and not u a back tension should never go off if u draw with just 1 finger and your thumb

    • @randy63o
      @randy63o Před 7 lety

      Yeees, it could be that problem, I'll try it; I'll try to draw back with just those two fingers. Thank you!!!!

    • @JimiEllis
      @JimiEllis  Před 7 lety

      +randy63o let me know how u go

    • @randy63o
      @randy63o Před 7 lety

      Jimi Ellis Yes I will, cause actually I have punched in my face as you said hahaha

    • @randy63o
      @randy63o Před 7 lety

      Jimi Ellis OMG! you were right dude! I have just done what you told me and it works! I'll never punch my face again hahaha

  • @Im.hurtnLinda
    @Im.hurtnLinda Před 6 lety

    When I relax my index finger I have low shots. Any thoughts?

    • @JimiEllis
      @JimiEllis  Před 6 lety

      +bowhuntr0 0 not sure dude but jump on discord and ask everyone on there someone in the ExA will known forsure

  • @toadamine
    @toadamine Před 5 lety

    That's a hinge, a backtension releases automatically with a certain amount of backtension... Like a silverback...
    If you're punching yourself in the face, you're drawing with your arm and not your back... Even if you set it off drawing you should never punch yourself in the face... If you do, you're not drawing correctly.

    • @JimiEllis
      @JimiEllis  Před 5 lety

      No the silver back is tension activated and the others r hinge activated they r both classed back tension and your draw does not cause u to punch your self your grip on the release does drawing has nothing to do with punching your self thanks for commenting even if every thing u said was wrong

  • @Vicariousleighilive..
    @Vicariousleighilive.. Před 6 lety

    Ive noticed that your jaw is gapping when you shoot i always close my teeth because i noticed my anchor would change... thoughts?

    • @JimiEllis
      @JimiEllis  Před 6 lety

      Yeah thats a problem i had when i first started should always have your mouth closed

  • @zook4886
    @zook4886 Před 7 lety

    Good information. Ill stick to my thumb release for hunting. Can't stuff up the shot. Good to see a fellow Aussie on the tube. I get tired of yanks dribbling on with their macho hype. I mean, every bow has to be 70 plus #. REALLY. A fox can't tell the difference. Lol.

    • @JimiEllis
      @JimiEllis  Před 7 lety

      +Grey ghost Dylan bahaha thats true thanks mate

  • @roberthall6912
    @roberthall6912 Před 7 lety

    Great! But it is hard to understand your accent enough to understand the names of the people and the names of the releases you are using. Put the names in print on the screen. but the presentation was superb.

    • @JimiEllis
      @JimiEllis  Před 7 lety

      +Robert Hall the ppl i talk about r in the description thanks mate ill try and print it on the screen too

  • @bowhunter0762
    @bowhunter0762 Před 4 lety

    🤟😛

  • @gaiuscarter6811
    @gaiuscarter6811 Před 7 lety

    who's Levi Morgan?

    • @JimiEllis
      @JimiEllis  Před 7 lety

      +Gaius Carter haha there is a link in the description of him talking about how he dose it

    • @gaiuscarter6811
      @gaiuscarter6811 Před 7 lety

      never heard of her.

    • @JimiEllis
      @JimiEllis  Před 7 lety

      +Gaius Carter hahaha

    • @alexking8965
      @alexking8965 Před 7 lety

      I think she won once..

  • @TheDeadeye83
    @TheDeadeye83 Před 7 lety

    Hey thanks for putting all the information you have found here on you tube in one place. The side by side comparison was a good idea. I do however feel like you truly don't understand what you have watched here on CZcams and are trying to explain to people. These people obviously don't need to shoot a back tension release ( yes a BACK TENSION) If they think you are guiding them. If I where Levi Morgan I would send you a bill every time you said my name. Shame on you for acting like you could even begin to explain any of the pros shot execution. How about you do a vid on telling everyone just how long you been trying to fake it in archery. I hear it ain't been long at all. Keep watching and stop faking and maybe one day you might actually understand what these pros are talking about. You owe it to archery to stop. Best of shooting to you.

    • @JimiEllis
      @JimiEllis  Před 7 lety +2

      +PAPA MUNTZ im glad u like the vid thanks mate

  • @juansaydeflores890
    @juansaydeflores890 Před 8 lety

    great video

    • @JimiEllis
      @JimiEllis  Před 8 lety +1

      +Juan & Sayde Flores thanks heaps mate