This is an intelligent, inspiring and very positive analysis of the way we can establish with certainty the events in the life of our Holy Prophet Muhammad ﷺ . Dr Joel is a careful, methodical and scrupulous scholar. Please invite him again.
This is a wonderful interview. The professor is remarkable. I feel uplifted in my faith and much better informed than I was. I have ordered his newest book. He used to pray every day in my local moque before he moved to the UAE. He's really humble. I talked with him a few times and he never even mentioned that he's a scholar and an author on Islam. He always inquired about my health and my family.
Awesome video May Allah bless of both you and especially Professor Joel Hayward. I heard his name a couple times on one of Paul Williams videos but when he actually got the Professor on his channel I very intrigued and very impressed. Now I want to purchase some of his books inshallah
Ma shaa Allah TabarakAllah May Allah bless you and make easy everything for you always (Shaykh) Professor Joel Hayward.. Aameen Allahumma Aameen 🤲🏼 I am proud of you always Shaykh 🙏🏼
As Muslims, who believe in God's promise that he will protect the Qur'ān, we believe that God has protected the meaning as well as the wording. As is mentioned in numerous verses, the Prophet (Sallallahu alaihi wa sallam) was responsible for delivering not just the words but also the exegesis of them. Many of the Qur'ān's injunctions can only be acted upon through the understanding presented by the Hadīth Literature, which is how God has preserved the meanings. Many of the arguments presented by the esteemed professor seem to have already been dealt with in the works of the late Muhammad Mustafa A'zami and by Dr J.A.C Brown. Further, the Sunni position on the reliability and honesty of all the Sahaba is one of consensus. The difference between Sunni and Shia Hadith Literature is academic honesty. Sunnis accept narrations that fulfil their requirements, even if they are from followers of other sects, and even if the Hadīth doesn't sit well with general Sunni principles (I.e. mushkil or problematic ḥadīth). Not doing so is dishonest. As well as this, many of what are considered currently as the canonical collections of Shia Hadith were lost for centuries. They are also rife with narrators who were infamous as known liars and forgers. There is no comparison between the systematic methodology and epistemology of Sunni Hadith and the Shia collections. Your knowledge is an unquestionable ocean, but it seems the Hadīth Sciences are a shore you've yet to truly reach. Enjoyable conversation overall on the battles and strategies of the time. Thank you for your time and knowledge, Professor Hayward. Jazākumullāh khayran wassalām 'aleykum P.S. Any chance your works on Islamic warfare will be collected in book form?
Professor Hayward is approaching the Hadith as an objective scholar. It’s like he mentioned regarding Bukhari. When those ahadith were collected, 10 or so generations had passed before Bukhari wrote them down. From a scholarly perspective it is reasonable to approach the Hadith as a secondary source. But of course what you’re saying is absolutely true. The Quran was revealed with current events in the prophets life (S). So the Hadith must have a level of preservation. But there’s a reason we have scholars that have specialized in the science of Hadith. But I did want to ask about the books you mentioned dealing with the subject, what are they?
@@ahmedbalsheh5908, But that is precisely the point: lumping Sunni and Shia ḥadīth methodologies together without understanding the massive chasm of approach and accuracy between them is not being objective. It’s simply not having studied either in any depth. Rather, what we see is the Western so-called Historical Critical Method placed up on a pedestal, while the Islamic isnād methodology is dismissed offhandedly. It is accepting wholly and uncritically the instruments and assumptions that a formative schooling in Historical Critical Methodology provided, and disdaining and treating with undue scepticism any other approach to historical texts or records. It is taking the studies and statements of orientalists at face value, approaching the works of classical Islamic scholars with incredulity or at the very least suspicion. As to the claim that ‘ten or so generations had passed before Bukhari wrote them down’, that is absurd and wholly unreasonable. The collection contains a number of thulāthiyāt: ḥadīth in which the statement has reached Imam al-Bukhārī by a mere three intermediaries. Each of the narrators in which have their biographies, their lives and times, recorded in a plethora of biographical compendiums. The mental gymnastics behind making such a statement can only be the false assumption that life expectancy, health, and living conditions in the early Islamic period must have been the same as the squalor of early medieval Europe. From a scholarly perspective, that is not a reasonable approach to Ḥadīth Literature as a source of history. The books I alluded to are: Studies in Early Hadith Literature, Hadith Methodology and Literature, and On Schacht's Origins of Muhammadan Jurisprudence - all of which are by Muhammad Mustafa Al-A'zami; Hadith: Muhammad's Legacy in the Medieval and Modern World, Misquoting Muhammad: The Challenge and Choices of Interpreting the Prophet's Legacy, and The Canonization of al-Bukhārī and Muslim: The Formation and Function of the Sunnī Ḥadīth Canon - all of which are by Jonathan AC Brown. If you read in Arabic as well, al-Sunnah wa Makānatihā by Mustafa al-Siba‘i and al-Sunnah al-Mutahirah wa al-Tahadiyāt by Nur al-Din ‘Itr have dealt with this topic as well.
Prof. Seems like a really good and sincere guy, I would like to correct something as far as “Muslims not having a pope like concept who tells you what a final interpretation of a verse is” Sunni Islam has the the 4 Imams of fiq whom if come to a consensus on a matter it is then the final interpretation that can not be changed.-
27:10 I also asked the same question to a Mufti wether there is a different between seerah and Hadith. Can we find Same history Even in Both literature.. the answer was.. noooo.. 29:00
Seerah of Prophet Muhammad as writen by Ibn ishaq and ibn Hisham and others is not 100% accurate. This is because some contain exaggerations and embellishments or rather unauthenticated narratives. This is something known by all Muslims. Criticism of it always existed among scholars. While they are broadly correct, they due contain some stories not accepted by scholars or totally rejected. Similarly scholars of hadith studied hadith in depth, analysed it and categorised them based on their level of reliability and authenticity. Not every hadith your hear is authentic. There are weak hadiths, rejected hadiths, sound hadiths, strong hadiths, authentic hadiths, mutawattir hadiths (highest level). These categorisations were developed by earliest scholars of hadith science or experts. The only thing that Muslims agree 100% as being accurately written and transmitted is the Quran. The Quran is direct speech of Allah. Not something someone heard from another, like hadith and seerah.
Well, Dr. Howard is wrong on hadith when he says the chain of transmission is father to son, while this can be true, it's very very rare. That vast majority of Hadith narrators are from teachers to their students. So one hadith can be narrated from ibn Abbas for example by more than 10 of his students who interacted with him and learned from him. Some of these students will also become scholars in their own right and teach another generation. And then to the next and next. That is how hadiths became well known among the populations just by oral traditions. And another point is that while the earliest hadith books we have today are written atleast 200 yrs after the Prophet's death, it does not mean that nothing was written before that period. Hadiths were used to be written down even during the Prophet's time and after him. Only that those earliest written hadiths were mostly not in single book form but were in bits and patches due to obvious reasons. The art of writing books and records did not take hold until later generations.
Very interesting talk, always interested to hear Professor Joel Hayward. However, I disagree with some of the wonky mathematics employed to show the generational gap between the Hadith compilations and the Prophet (salallahu alaihi wasallam). When we have thulathiyat (only three narrators between them) written down, why are we counting in twenty year periods? If we look at this idea with any detail, it makes no sense. Why would we only gain our knowledge from one generation up when there are people 5 generations up still with us? The fact is that we didn’t, and thus his argument against the primary source nature of Hadith holds no water.
Hi my friend. Assalamu alaykum. A generation nowadays in the west is over thirty years, but in other parts of the world it is far less. A generation is the amount of time between when people are born and when they produce their first children. In seventh and eighth century Arabia we know a generation was around twenty years. I don't build any great argument on this. It's only an observation that in, say, two centuries, there can be ten generations or more.
@@joel7876 Jazakallah Khair for your reply, Professor. I do not disagree with your point about average time difference between generations, and it is also possible that in 200 years we could have had nearly twice that number too. My observation here was only with regards to taking it as fact that Hadith were only taken from one generation up at a time. Put another way, just because there may possibly have been 10 generations within those 200 years, that does not mean there were 10 narrators between those periods. A twenty year old could have taken an Hadith from a 90 year who took it from a 90 year old, and that would make it 3 generations of narrators between the time periods. I was only pointing out this discrepancy within the podcast regarding what you said, and obviously note the point you were trying to make. You are far more learned than me, no doubt. Allah knows best.
The professor draw a very blurry line on jahiliyyah practices during the days of the prophet (saw), except when it is related to tawhid. How is it that he did not mention during the jahiliyya days, and throughout Europe, women were considered to be an object and were barred from inheritance; the Arabs at that time would slit their baby throat if the first born was a female; inhumane treatment of slaves and the poor. These are additional major efforts the prophet fought hard against for the jahiliyyah Arabs to abandoned, not just tawhid.
Hi my friend. No one can deny those things. But this particular talk had a focus and wasn't a general discussion of everything. And I was responding to specific questions from dear brother Terron, not talking about anything on my mind. But I have a future book to write on the very things you kindly mentioned, inshallah.
@@joel7876 Asalaam Alaikum brother. I am sure that was not your intention, but you have left the audience hanging, when you also asserted Muslim writers tend to place the prophet (saw) on a high pedestal (paraphrasing). However, it is the Quran that speaks of the prophet's character and manners as the best (Quran 68:4), something you should have expounded on some more. Also, giving credence to orientalists whose primary mission is to slander the prophet by accusing him of copying from the bible to produce the Quran, adds to further confusion for the audience. I understand you are a scholar/writer and your approach may be different than the average person, but we as Muslims should be first and utmost be concerned whether or not Allah is pleased with our actions.
Just so you all know the trinity is in the old testament( torah, tanakh/jewish bible) as the lord god, the angel of the lord/jesus, and the spirit of the lord
The Qur'an in the Qur'an refers to the Law of Moses. If you couldn't figure out that the title Qur'an on the cover of the book is a fraudulent one, then it is safe to argue that you don't understand its content. "We have given you the 7 oft-repeated verses and the glorious Qur'an..." Translation: We have given you the Fatiha and the Law of Moses as the basis for your legislations in rejection of the Roman Law, the papal sacraments, and Trinity. Here is another one: "What! If this Qur'an is from God you believe not but a Rabbi among the Children of Israel attests to its similitude and believe while you proudly reject it..." Does this look like some words from God? What was the Rabbi doing in Mekka messing with Allah's revelation? LOL... Or was he just comparing two translations of the same Torah, one in Hebrew and the other in Arabic? The dude was a Prince-Legislator, a Founding Father, and a statesman. "And the stone rejected and exiled by the Mekkan builders had become the cornerstone; it's our Lord doing.!!"
In illiterate societies transmission is oral, so it was early Islam. Such stories were passed on from generation to generation. By the time of the Abbasids, literacy was common and those transmissions were written down. Though Fuat Sezgin’s PhD was on the writing down of Hadith in the 7th century. It is in German. Memorization in Muslim societies was common and much valued. People knew centuries of names of their ancestors. So it was with Ahadith. Has the nursery rhyme twinkle twinkle little star changed? It is a trivial example without life changing value. Recounting Hadith was very serious business. It was not the game of telephone or nursery rhymes. No, there were only seven generations . One generation is 20 years in genetics. Zuhri was a Tabai, which is the generation after the companions. Nadia Abbott, Fuat Sezgin and MM Azami have demonstrated the writing down of ahadith. Joel castes doubt at all scholars of Islam , when we know from Ibn Hanbal, Abu Hanifa and Ibn Tammiya stood up to such influences. Joel is comparing proclivities of Western scholars with the upstanding Muslim scholars. Muslims were not Bani Israel, it says in the Qur’an more like the disciples of Jesus. The Shia Hadith don’t come up to standards of Bukhari. He speaks out of ignorance. The Shias have never had a Seerat. He keeps making false analogies. There are no isnad in Christian books. Please not Jay is employed by dodgy gulf emirs Ask people of Iraq, Afghanistan, Palestine, Vietnam and countries of Central and South America. Is that his idea of peace? He pooh poohs military strategy , conveniently forget Khalid bin Waleed, one of the greatest generals of all times, the only time the Prophet (saww) was defeated in battle. Ghaira’t is not only 7th century phenomenon but also exists today, otherwise the US would not have left Afghanistan and Iraq. Does he really thinks Jewish scholars and orientalists are to be relied on?
Saw him on br Paul Williams channel but I think this interview is even better bcos br Terron focused more on key questions. Really informative.
There are some who take the Islamic torch to new heights, this brother is one of those people.
Hard to find a better or smarter analysis of the way we understand the Holy Prophet Muhammad’s ﷺ life from the sources themselves. So good.
This is an intelligent, inspiring and very positive analysis of the way we can establish with certainty the events in the life of our Holy Prophet Muhammad ﷺ . Dr Joel is a careful, methodical and scrupulous scholar. Please invite him again.
Really enjoyed this! ❤ Alhamdulillah
This is the best podcast on how to understand our Prophet prayers and peace be upon him. I like this man's knowledge and approach.
This is a wonderful interview. The professor is remarkable. I feel uplifted in my faith and much better informed than I was. I have ordered his newest book. He used to pray every day in my local moque before he moved to the UAE. He's really humble. I talked with him a few times and he never even mentioned that he's a scholar and an author on Islam. He always inquired about my health and my family.
Mashallah. This guy is great. I wish him continued success. I will buy his book on the leadership of Rasulullah saaw
Can’t wait for the warrior prophet to be published, will definitely be looking into his books.
Me too
Awesome video May Allah bless of both you and especially Professor Joel Hayward. I heard his name a couple times on one of Paul Williams videos but when he actually got the Professor on his channel I very intrigued and very impressed. Now I want to purchase some of his books inshallah
Thank you for the interesting and important lecture, may Allah give you health and patience in spreading knowledge. ameen
Ma shaa Allah TabarakAllah
May Allah bless you and make easy everything for you always (Shaykh) Professor Joel Hayward.. Aameen Allahumma Aameen 🤲🏼
I am proud of you always Shaykh 🙏🏼
MashaAllah beautiful discussion it's really opened up my mind, thanks Professor Joel Hayward
Amazing work by Professor Joel Hayward. Was much needed.
Thank you, JAk! Enlightening interview
Fantastic podcast, sharing widely- Prof Joel is a modern day genius on military history and strategy. Terron my brother you have a new subscriber :)
I came to Islam 11 years ago when 56 years old.
ALHUMDULILLA
sweet
@Terron what’s the email for the Professor?
As Muslims, who believe in God's promise that he will protect the Qur'ān, we believe that God has protected the meaning as well as the wording. As is mentioned in numerous verses, the Prophet (Sallallahu alaihi wa sallam) was responsible for delivering not just the words but also the exegesis of them. Many of the Qur'ān's injunctions can only be acted upon through the understanding presented by the Hadīth Literature, which is how God has preserved the meanings. Many of the arguments presented by the esteemed professor seem to have already been dealt with in the works of the late Muhammad Mustafa A'zami and by Dr J.A.C Brown.
Further, the Sunni position on the reliability and honesty of all the Sahaba is one of consensus.
The difference between Sunni and Shia Hadith Literature is academic honesty. Sunnis accept narrations that fulfil their requirements, even if they are from followers of other sects, and even if the Hadīth doesn't sit well with general Sunni principles (I.e. mushkil or problematic ḥadīth). Not doing so is dishonest. As well as this, many of what are considered currently as the canonical collections of Shia Hadith were lost for centuries. They are also rife with narrators who were infamous as known liars and forgers. There is no comparison between the systematic methodology and epistemology of Sunni Hadith and the Shia collections.
Your knowledge is an unquestionable ocean, but it seems the Hadīth Sciences are a shore you've yet to truly reach.
Enjoyable conversation overall on the battles and strategies of the time. Thank you for your time and knowledge, Professor Hayward.
Jazākumullāh khayran wassalām 'aleykum
P.S. Any chance your works on Islamic warfare will be collected in book form?
Professor Hayward is approaching the Hadith as an objective scholar. It’s like he mentioned regarding Bukhari. When those ahadith were collected, 10 or so generations had passed before Bukhari wrote them down. From a scholarly perspective it is reasonable to approach the Hadith as a secondary source.
But of course what you’re saying is absolutely true. The Quran was revealed with current events in the prophets life (S). So the Hadith must have a level of preservation. But there’s a reason we have scholars that have specialized in the science of Hadith.
But I did want to ask about the books you mentioned dealing with the subject, what are they?
@@ahmedbalsheh5908,
But that is precisely the point: lumping Sunni and Shia ḥadīth methodologies together without understanding the massive chasm of approach and accuracy between them is not being objective. It’s simply not having studied either in any depth. Rather, what we see is the Western so-called Historical Critical Method placed up on a pedestal, while the Islamic isnād methodology is dismissed offhandedly. It is accepting wholly and uncritically the instruments and assumptions that a formative schooling in Historical Critical Methodology provided, and disdaining and treating with undue scepticism any other approach to historical texts or records. It is taking the studies and statements of orientalists at face value, approaching the works of classical Islamic scholars with incredulity or at the very least suspicion.
As to the claim that ‘ten or so generations had passed before Bukhari wrote them down’, that is absurd and wholly unreasonable. The collection contains a number of thulāthiyāt: ḥadīth in which the statement has reached Imam al-Bukhārī by a mere three intermediaries. Each of the narrators in which have their biographies, their lives and times, recorded in a plethora of biographical compendiums. The mental gymnastics behind making such a statement can only be the false assumption that life expectancy, health, and living conditions in the early Islamic period must have been the same as the squalor of early medieval Europe. From a scholarly perspective, that is not a reasonable approach to Ḥadīth Literature as a source of history.
The books I alluded to are: Studies in Early Hadith Literature, Hadith Methodology and Literature, and On Schacht's Origins of Muhammadan Jurisprudence - all of which are by Muhammad Mustafa Al-A'zami; Hadith: Muhammad's Legacy in the Medieval and Modern World, Misquoting Muhammad: The Challenge and Choices of Interpreting the Prophet's Legacy, and The Canonization of al-Bukhārī and Muslim: The Formation and Function of the Sunnī Ḥadīth Canon - all of which are by Jonathan AC Brown. If you read in Arabic as well, al-Sunnah wa Makānatihā by Mustafa al-Siba‘i and al-Sunnah al-Mutahirah wa al-Tahadiyāt by Nur al-Din ‘Itr have dealt with this topic as well.
Prof. Seems like a really good and sincere guy, I would like to correct something as far as “Muslims not having a pope like concept who tells you what a final interpretation of a verse is”
Sunni Islam has the the 4 Imams of fiq whom if come to a consensus on a matter it is then the final interpretation that can not be changed.-
27:10 I also asked the same question to a Mufti wether there is a different between seerah and Hadith. Can we find Same history Even in Both literature.. the answer was.. noooo..
29:00
Seerah of Prophet Muhammad as writen by Ibn ishaq and ibn Hisham and others is not 100% accurate. This is because some contain exaggerations and embellishments or rather unauthenticated narratives.
This is something known by all Muslims. Criticism of it always existed among scholars.
While they are broadly correct, they due contain some stories not accepted by scholars or totally rejected.
Similarly scholars of hadith studied hadith in depth, analysed it and categorised them based on their level of reliability and authenticity. Not every hadith your hear is authentic. There are weak hadiths, rejected hadiths, sound hadiths, strong hadiths, authentic hadiths, mutawattir hadiths (highest level).
These categorisations were developed by earliest scholars of hadith science or experts.
The only thing that Muslims agree 100% as being accurately written and transmitted is the Quran.
The Quran is direct speech of Allah. Not something someone heard from another, like hadith and seerah.
What about constitution of Medina as a primary source?
The Prof. didn’t deal with early Hadith resources for example the Muwatta etc.
Well, Dr. Howard is wrong on hadith when he says the chain of transmission is father to son, while this can be true, it's very very rare. That vast majority of Hadith narrators are from teachers to their students. So one hadith can be narrated from ibn Abbas for example by more than 10 of his students who interacted with him and learned from him. Some of these students will also become scholars in their own right and teach another generation. And then to the next and next. That is how hadiths became well known among the populations just by oral traditions.
And another point is that while the earliest hadith books we have today are written atleast 200 yrs after the Prophet's death, it does not mean that nothing was written before that period. Hadiths were used to be written down even during the Prophet's time and after him. Only that those earliest written hadiths were mostly not in single book form but were in bits and patches due to obvious reasons. The art of writing books and records did not take hold until later generations.
Actually my brother I was only trying to show the length of generations :-)
@saidhashi2856
You missed his point.
Very interesting talk, always interested to hear Professor Joel Hayward.
However, I disagree with some of the wonky mathematics employed to show the generational gap between the Hadith compilations and the Prophet (salallahu alaihi wasallam). When we have thulathiyat (only three narrators between them) written down, why are we counting in twenty year periods?
If we look at this idea with any detail, it makes no sense. Why would we only gain our knowledge from one generation up when there are people 5 generations up still with us? The fact is that we didn’t, and thus his argument against the primary source nature of Hadith holds no water.
Hi my friend. Assalamu alaykum. A generation nowadays in the west is over thirty years, but in other parts of the world it is far less. A generation is the amount of time between when people are born and when they produce their first children. In seventh and eighth century Arabia we know a generation was around twenty years. I don't build any great argument on this. It's only an observation that in, say, two centuries, there can be ten generations or more.
@@joel7876 Jazakallah Khair for your reply, Professor. I do not disagree with your point about average time difference between generations, and it is also possible that in 200 years we could have had nearly twice that number too.
My observation here was only with regards to taking it as fact that Hadith were only taken from one generation up at a time. Put another way, just because there may possibly have been 10 generations within those 200 years, that does not mean there were 10 narrators between those periods. A twenty year old could have taken an Hadith from a 90 year who took it from a 90 year old, and that would make it 3 generations of narrators between the time periods.
I was only pointing out this discrepancy within the podcast regarding what you said, and obviously note the point you were trying to make. You are far more learned than me, no doubt.
Allah knows best.
The professor draw a very blurry line on jahiliyyah practices during the days of the prophet (saw), except when it is related to tawhid. How is it that he did not mention during the jahiliyya days, and throughout Europe, women were considered to be an object and were barred from inheritance; the Arabs at that time would slit their baby throat if the first born was a female; inhumane treatment of slaves and the poor. These are additional major efforts the prophet fought hard against for the jahiliyyah Arabs to abandoned, not just tawhid.
Hi my friend. No one can deny those things. But this particular talk had a focus and wasn't a general discussion of everything. And I was responding to specific questions from dear brother Terron, not talking about anything on my mind. But I have a future book to write on the very things you kindly mentioned, inshallah.
@@joel7876 Asalaam Alaikum brother. I am sure that was not your intention, but you have left the audience hanging, when you also asserted Muslim writers tend to place the prophet (saw) on a high pedestal (paraphrasing). However, it is the Quran that speaks of the prophet's character and manners as the best (Quran 68:4), something you should have expounded on some more. Also, giving credence to orientalists whose primary mission is to slander the prophet by accusing him of copying from the bible to produce the Quran, adds to further confusion for the audience. I understand you are a scholar/writer and your approach may be different than the average person, but we as Muslims should be first and utmost be concerned whether or not Allah is pleased with our actions.
Just so you all know the trinity is in the old testament( torah, tanakh/jewish bible) as the lord god, the angel of the lord/jesus, and the spirit of the lord
The Qur'an in the Qur'an refers to the Law of Moses. If you couldn't figure out that the title Qur'an on the cover of the book is a fraudulent one, then it is safe to argue that you don't understand its content.
"We have given you the 7 oft-repeated verses and the glorious Qur'an..."
Translation:
We have given you the Fatiha and the Law of Moses as the basis for your legislations in rejection of the Roman Law, the papal sacraments, and Trinity.
Here is another one:
"What! If this Qur'an is from God you believe not but a Rabbi among the Children of Israel attests to its similitude and believe while you proudly reject it..."
Does this look like some words from God? What was the Rabbi doing in Mekka messing with Allah's revelation? LOL...
Or was he just comparing two translations of the same Torah, one in Hebrew and the other in Arabic?
The dude was a Prince-Legislator, a Founding Father, and a statesman.
"And the stone rejected and exiled by the Mekkan builders had become the cornerstone; it's our Lord doing.!!"
In illiterate societies transmission is oral, so it was early Islam. Such stories were passed on from generation to generation. By the time of the Abbasids, literacy was common and those transmissions were written down. Though Fuat Sezgin’s PhD was on the writing down of Hadith in the 7th century. It is in German.
Memorization in Muslim societies was common and much valued. People knew centuries of names of their ancestors.
So it was with Ahadith. Has the nursery rhyme twinkle twinkle little star changed? It is a trivial example without life changing value.
Recounting Hadith was very serious business. It was not the game of telephone or nursery rhymes.
No, there were only seven generations . One generation is 20 years in genetics.
Zuhri was a Tabai, which is the generation after the companions.
Nadia Abbott, Fuat Sezgin and MM Azami have demonstrated the writing down of ahadith.
Joel castes doubt at all scholars of Islam , when we know from Ibn Hanbal, Abu Hanifa and Ibn Tammiya stood up to such influences.
Joel is comparing proclivities of Western scholars with the upstanding Muslim scholars.
Muslims were not Bani Israel, it says in the Qur’an more like the disciples of Jesus.
The Shia Hadith don’t come up to standards of Bukhari. He speaks out of ignorance. The Shias have never had a Seerat.
He keeps making false analogies. There are no isnad in Christian books.
Please not Jay is employed by dodgy gulf emirs
Ask people of Iraq, Afghanistan, Palestine, Vietnam and countries of Central and South America. Is that his idea of peace?
He pooh poohs military strategy , conveniently forget Khalid bin Waleed, one of the greatest generals of all times, the only time the Prophet (saww) was defeated in battle.
Ghaira’t is not only 7th century phenomenon but also exists today, otherwise the US would not have left Afghanistan and Iraq.
Does he really thinks Jewish scholars and orientalists are to be relied on?
Sayed Qumni or سيد القمني being a scholar is the funniest thing ever, dude is a joke.