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- čas přidán 6. 09. 2024
- Nadia and Jake review Furiosa: A Mad Max Saga (2024).
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Too much nuance and discussion in these videos, please put a giant 👎 or 👍 in the thumbnail so i can come in enraged or humbly agreeing.
Someone needed to say it!!! 😂
I wasn’t told what to think in the first 10 seconds, what kind of video is this?!
Chris Hemsworth was a great addition to the Mad Max universe. Also, Anya Taylor Joy ironically hadn't gotten her driver's license prior to filming.
I liked Hemsworth, but works basically as a funny MCU villain, nothing compared to Immortan or Hummungus
So a Fury Road review next? Pretty pls😊
I need to hear how Fury Road is received as a sequel! Lol
I second this!
gonna have to side with Nadia here easily. Best action since MI : Falliout for me. I was buzzing the entire second half of this movie, fav of the year so far.
Furiosa is as much about furiosa as fury road is about mad max. These movies are always about the world first and the characters second to me.
Yes! The worldbuilding in Fury was subtle and clever with an amazing production. Sadly i cant say the same thing here
Jake’s haircut is 🔥
I think Fury Road is more rewatchable because it's more intense and thrilling and a tight 2 hours but I probably think Furiosa is a better overall movie. I like them both for different reasons.
I'm with Nadia more here. I absolutely loved the world building aspect and found the story to be really engaging.
The action had me on the edge of my seat throughout, and can't forget Junkie XL returning with an awesome OST. I love Fury Road and I agree it's tighter narratively, but I'm glad we got something different.
Also Kudos to George Miller for just doing his thing and creating this whole universe - the dude is almost 80 years old!
The cinematography was amazing!
I really liked it. I think it works better not as "Fury Road: 2" but as "Mad Max: 5". It's a great entry in the franchise and I like that all five films have different structures and vibes. Furiosa has a lot of call backs to the first film which I appreciated!
Loved this movie. I don't think the worldbuilding detracts from the narrative at all. The world of mad max is really important in general for the story, not only in terms as a thematic background but also as a background for the action. If we didn't have so much worldbuilding, the green place wouldn't feel so important because we wouldn't realize how much "wasteland" the wasteland really is. It's not enough to just be told it's a wasteland. the world building plays a part of Chris's character and his desire for domination and that itself plays a role in the relationship with Furiosa. All of this is also a part of the general ecology theme of the movie. So overall I don't think the worldbuilding really detracts from the plot.
As for the cgi I was surprised, when I watched thr trailer I thought it looked really weird but when I saw the movie I thought it looked good. So I don't know. Maybe I was just too "in the moment" and it didn't bother me. Maybe when I watch it the second time on a tv. But overall I do think the movie looked really good.
I think some of the shots from the trailers were just not properly finished. For example, the flipping car shot, after Dementus bumped into Furiosa's car. In the movie they've added tons of dust under Furiosa's car, so everything looked grounded and believable. Meanwhile in the 2nd trailer there is almost 0 dust, you can't see the whole car accident, the whole movement trajectory, only the car flipping in the air. So the same shot looks really fake and unnatural.
@@KenTWOuI almost wasn’t going to see this movie cause the trailers looked garbage but everyone seems to like it so I’ll check it out
@@Paccyd33 Just manage your expectations, don't expect a perfect movie, don't expect an epic car chase at the end, the ending is significantly less ambitious in its scope. You might also question George Miller's choices like Jake did, like why Miller is showing these periods of Furiosa's life, but not the other ones. For example, I think the movie might work better for Jake if it was just about Dementus vs Immortan Joe war, and then Furiosa suddenly showed up (like Max did in his movies) and changed the outcome. But still it's a good movie, a worthy addition to the series IMHO.
I'm glad Nadia got to view it without the expectations of just wanting to see something similar to Fury Road! My partner and I like to engage with each Mad Max as biblical epics ('cause that's how four out of five of them are depicted) and Furiosa's best enjoyed when you're just in a vacuum being like "tell me a story."
Like if there's never another Mad Max, or it's ten years between I'm going to be gratful there's this "epic" that covers pretty much everything of importance to /the story/ instead of just trying to make another car chase.
Like Thunderdome's good for the unique shit, not for attempting to be Road Warrior.
0:54 man carrying Owen Wilson
I actually liked this more than Fury Road
Same!
Also same
Me Same
I think both movies are excellent complements to each other. I very much enjoyed both!
Cinema is dead then
10:04 that's funny because arguably Furiosa upstaged Max in his film, Dementus upstaged Furiosa, maybe there'll be a Dementus prequel where he's the less interesting character
Bet it was either a good movie or not
50-50 chance
I fully agree with Nadia on this one, and I wonder if it's because Furiosa was my introduction to the Mad Max universe too. People who have seen Mad Max Fury take for granted how immersive and interesting the worldbuilding is in this movie, so that aspect certainly kept the movie from ever feeling slow or boring to me. Additionally having no knowledge of what would happen made Furiosa's escape scene really shocking and cool. I loved the episodic structure, and the playfulness of the titles is just another aspect to the world building that I loved. Both Furiosa and Dementus had interesting story arcs. It was a great movie. I did watch Fury Road the night after getting back from Furiosa and liked that as well, but not as much as Furiosa. Fury Road was almost constant road war, which I found repetitive, a little boring, and I thought they did it better in Furiosa without having that take over 90% of the story.
I love that Jake speaks his mind and doesn't go along with the general consensus, I felt the same on a lot of the topics Jake brought up and thought i was going insane that no one else was bringing up these topics loved the review.
Yeah! I did enjoy the movie, but it is definitely getting way overhyped. I feel like people doesn't want this to be as underwhelming as it is so they hype it up
Every time Mad Max discourse happens im reminded that the Gibson era is non existent in the convos
I agree with Nadia. The world building was incredible
Furiosa makes Fury Road even better. I'd love to get your review of it next.
No offense but the discourse over cgi "being bad" is a really tired topic in film reviews these days. We get it. You can identify cgi when you see it. Its like if people complained about Ray Harryhausen stop motion because it was "so obvious the gorgon wasnt real" but they didn't and his work is celebrated. Like come on. Meet the movie half way for once.
Yeah, it's the same shit with video games and texture resolution. Like any normally sighted person could notice that that specific tree wasn't properly textured and looks low-res, because either someone missed it or it was outsourced or whatever, not a big deal when the game has hundreds of them. Besides some Fury Road's backgrounds look fake in 4K, because it wasn't a 4K movie. I don't care.
I can’t understand how we still have the CGI debate when we have films like the rebooted Planet of the Apes or even Gollum’s dated CGI in LOTR benefit the story so well. Films like these would be FAR worse without CGI. It’s just that it’s a tool that gets used the wrong way- but that goes for anything!
@@shinesparkss5193 It's 'they shot everything practical without CGI' PR bullshit all over again that only harms movie industry and all those talented people working on CGI.
@@KenTWOu Yeah. I mean, I love practical effects, but acting like CGI isn’t a viable option is ridiculous.
When CGI is bad in a visually realistic movie, it pulls me out of the immersion and reminds me "this is all fake". Of course I know the movie is fake, but being reminded of it disconnects me. It's like a storyteller pausing and saying "i made that up btw".
Movies need to be consistent with their language / universe / visual quality for me to stay engaged. This also goes for cartoons/animes.
just watched it last night and I thought this was the perfect introduction to the series, even though I have seen Fury Road, but I don’t remember it that well. I think I enjoyed it so much because I went in with pretty low to no expectations, so I can’t really compare them. I wish they had screened Fury Road in the cinema after, cause Furiosa made me really excited to watch it again. Although I hated that they put visuals from Fury Road in the credits, it kinda spoils it for no reason for people who haven’t seen or forgotton the movie.
i think that the worst thing you can say about the movie it is not fury road
Comparing with FR, I was disappointed by the lack of innovations in the world's design and the action scenes (e.g.FR had the swamps, the car designs, the fiery storm, the guitar man, the stunts, the milk fortress, the spray can fanatics, etc.). Almost everything "cool" and "refreshing" was already in Fury Road.
I loved Furiosa! I’d give it a 9, but it isn’t quite perfect like Fury Road, particularly because of the uneven tone. For example, the scene where Hemsworth licks a tear and says “yummy, so zesty!” pushed the camp factor to full Sam Raimi mode and it didn’t mesh well with the emotional impact of the scene. There’s multiple instances of this throughout. The effects were also a bit fake looking, particularly the backgrounds. Every single other thing in the movie is excellent, though! Definitely worth watching in theaters
Loved this review
haven’t watched this so i’m stopping at spoilers but looking forward to a review of fury road, if y’all do end up watching it together
While I hate the hobbit trilogy, I will say it's not totally Peter Jacksons fault, originally Guillermo del Toro was the director & long story short, while the film as green lit, Warner Brothers was refusing to send the money to start production, Del toro then left to pursue other projects & WB started to send the money for the film once they started losing their filming locations.
Jackson had to retool everything, turning a del Toro somewhat standalone 2 part film into a hobbit 2 part film series, that was set in Jacksons universe, originally that was not the case. So not yea, lots of issues, I'm assuming having adding another film to make a trilogy was to get money back from all the expensive CGI.
btw, I agree with Nadia!
Seeing Fury Road was one of my favorite theater experiences ever, and Charlize’s Furiousa was a big part of it. I agree with a lot of what Jake brought up but I love that George Miller is still trying to bring new experiences and visual spectacle to his franchise. Very much hoping we get one more film from Miller that is a different story
The revenge to redemption change that happens in furiosa because of her talk with dementus is perfect.
I hate to say it out loud - but maybe this movie just does better on streaming with the act jumps. Like - now that act 3 is over, lets all stand up and get a beer and talk about the other mad max movies too
Great points as always!! I always love what you two do.
I'd love to see a video on the Original Mad Max, it's easily my favourite
I’m with Nadia on this one, I loved this film. I never expected it to be as good as Fury Road but for me it was pretty much on par. I give it a 9.5/10 I loved it that much. Watched Fury Road again today though and that film is perfection for me but Furiosa did add to it in my opinion and I give Fury Road a 10/10
Wow i will listen to everything this man has to say because he is so clean shaven
I thought this movie was amazing. It didn’t top Fury Road for me but it did its own thing. It does kinda live in the shadow of Fury Road (especially when Furiosa’s full character arc is very much tied to that movie) but it works really well as a companion piece.
Anya's eyes and mouth were gradually merged onto the younger version's face, hence the similarity
Fury Road is my fav movie ever and Furiosa also kicks a lot of ass
My only real complaint was there was more noticeable cgi use in it.
Still a 9/10 for me tho.
Agree man carrying thing, I'm a big George Miller fan and Furiosa has a lot of good stuff going on but it's not a solid film like Fury Road. The character arcs are weaker and the practical effects aren't as strong. Fury Road was so simple yet SO EFFECTIVE, Nux's self sacrifice is a great example (willing to do it for a false prophet/god and finding out he's actually a mere mortal and then sacrifices himself for his friends, holy crap the end of that movie made the hairs on my scrotum rise). I kinda felt nothing at the end of Furiosa.
Im somewhere in between you two - thought the story structure didn’t work 100% but I also thought the expanded scope of the world and furiosa performances were excellent.
I hope it didnt sound that i was only talking to jake, i think you should read berserk together!! Such a nice mangy, i think its perfect for a couple reading!!? You both should really give it a try, its amazing. Cant wait for the video that youll make about it!?
I honestly wish the movie was longer. There are a capable parts that I felt should have been expanded upon. But as it was still very good.
jake i feel like a lot of your criticisms surrounded the idea of "not knowing what's next," but isnt that the fun of fiction? as viewers, dont we like unpredictability?
Hmm i think it’s the expectations we form that make unpredictability fun, instead of just dice rolls- like, the unexpected hurdles on a journey we want to see through vs completely changing destinations every so often
Not saying that’s Furiosa tho
Yall have no idea how screwed the timeline really is for Mad Max 😂
What I don't see a lot of people mentioning, is that the action choreography is MUCH better and much more creative EXACTLY for the reasons that most people are complaining. Yes, if you want to top your old movie that pushed the limits of conventional stunt work, you NEED to use CGI.
Jake was wrong about Fury Road the first time he saw it...and he's wrong about Furiosa now. Maybe he'll rewatch the movie in a year or two and realize the error of his ways.
I went with a friend of mine and she was excited to see it. Then we got to the end and they show the clips from Fury Road and I was packing up to walk out. So she pokes me and says the movie is still going. It wasn't until that point I realised she hadn't seen Fury Road either. It's funny to be worried about people not understanding a prequel because half the time they try to cram as many easter eggs as they can that nod to the next movie. I appreciate people can enjoy this without needing to see Fury Road. Not that they are seeing it. Fury Road wasn't a huge hit. Maybe that's a genuine concern for a more casual filmgoer that they're worried that because they didn't see Fury Road they wouldn't understand this. It doesn't really advertise as a prequel unless you know who Furiosa is. I think I'm seeing at least part of the reason Furiosa isn't hitting with audiences.
I think Chris Hemsworth would’ve made a great Max Rockatansky.
same with Tom Burke who played Pretorian Jack, it's such an amazing archetypical character
I can definitely see the Hobbit argument, especially in terms of effects
5/10 - worth the popcorn, but obviously fell way short of fury road.
I liked the hobbit trilogy…and I loved this movie too. Honestly it might be because my favorite aspects of these larger than life films is the world building, so movies that do more of that I eat up
Nice to hear Jake's thoughts, I just keep seeing overwhelmingly positive reviews, but it feels like a mess following Fury Road. Imagining your own history for Furiosa in Fury Road is more interesting than what happened in this one. She was more compelling and nuanced in Fury Road, I felt.
I rewatched Fury Road after seeing Furiosa and it made me appreciate the epic survival narrative in Furiosa more. Despite the flaws in some half baked CGI and a slightly bloated ending, Furiosa had space to breathe, less overbearing music, and more fleshed out characters. I enjoyed it a lot.
I hadn't watched any mad max movies before but I loved Furiosa a lot on first watch that I immediately watched Fury Road after. And I got the exact opposite reaction to Jake. I thought Fury Road had some insane spectacles but overall a bit too janky expecially with the acting for my investment but the storyline with furiosa in that movie hit an extra emotional beat due to having seen Furiosa. It gave the action scenes in it legit tension.
I am so glad to hear someone besides me also fell asleep watching Hobbits series
Furryosa
I heard that too 😂 Now I kinda want to see furry fan-art of the movie!
That would have been great if she chose not to go with vengeance by the end because of her experiences along the way, I agree it was not very well explored. It would have been great if her bf also had a vendetta, gets his revenge and it’s gratuitous and ended up being the wrong thing to do. Maybe that would have been too obvious but I feel like there was missed potential there and it would have given her boyfriend/friend character a little more to do with the movie.
Its interesting to me how this series now forms a palindrome
Mad max: revenge movie
Road Warrior: chase movie
Thunderdome: Saxophones
Fury Road: chase movie
Furiosa: revenge movie
I enjoyed it so very much I do agree it looked a little worse than Fury Road , I tell myself I understand though as Miller is like 80 almost and because studios are lame and would rather everything be cgi completely and I thought and felt it was like the first few episodes of a mini series as it was like parts 1-5 or however many chapters it was and Fury Road is the big long finale of the whole thing
Please watch all the others. You can see them in just about any order. Mad Max is great, because the first one (and now furiosa) are the only movies that are like… 100% canon. The world continuity is very lax, in the way that Max is more of a mythic folk hero than a real person, in all movies except the first. The whole world is very mythical and Shakespearean, with degenerate characters speaking in beautiful poetry, and using newly made words.
I'm confused, has Nadia seen Fury Road?
my film of the year tbh.
I get the criticism, but I either don't agree or don't mind or don't see it at all.
was a fun discussion though.
Mad Max Fury Road is literally the second coming of Christ though
I just came from seeing it. Did you think it sounded like they dubbed in Charlize Theron's voice during the second half of the movie? Or maybe Anya-Taylor Joy was doing an impression of Charlize Theron?
Man it really made me want to watch The Hobbit again
Masterpiece, for me. And better than Fury Road, which is also a 10/10. It just gripped me start to finish
Sorry but it's really annoying on how many times she says "I can't really comment on what you're saying" 🙄
HAIL DEMENTUS! HAIL THE V8!
Me and man share a lot of the same opinions on this one
“The resemblance was crazy” well they used deepfaking so.
I totally agree with Jake.
I also think this is a much weaker movie than Fury Road to be honest. People are hyping it up way too much. The story is just a big pile of nothing and it was wayyyy too long.
I think I tend to agree with Jake more. Common consensus is just way more forgiving of certain things that bug the shit out of someone like me.
Why did you cut your hair man? 😭😭
Glad many people liked it, but watching Fury Road and this back-to-back was one of the worst experiences i had in a long time. Beautiful production replaced for awful and digital fakery, subtle and clever worldbuilding replaced for infinite exposition and uninteresting lore, Theron emotion and gravitas replaced for Anya cold mono-expressiveness, scary Immortan replaced for Hemsworth doing Marvel level jokes. For a movie so full of narration and events, theres no room for Furiosa development and psychology. The fact that her relationship with Immortan is basically sided makes the tied ending to Fury Road quite meaningless
Reviews like this makes me SOOO happy that I basically forgot my entire experience of Fury Road before watching Furiosa. I loved Furiosa despite all of the things it didnt do as well as Fury Road, explicitly for the reason that it's still the 2nd best action movie I'll ever watch. I don't blame you for this review, as I probably would have felt similar if I had done the same. For this very reason I try and draw as little comparisons between two movies.
this is one of those meandering disasters of a film that makes you realize that much of modern film discourse, at least on twitter, is now a cult of performativity and cheap heuristics all assumed solely at seeing who can larp the hardest as the biggest "cinema enjoyer" on any given day. it's genuinely amazing how it manages to indulge literally all the pitfalls that Fury Road was praised for avoiding.