Ryu vs Kazuya
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- čas přidán 30. 06. 2024
- I have done separate videos on both Ryu & Kazuya if you want a more in depth look into them. They are up on the channel now! Currently it’s time for Ryu & Kazuya to go head to head to determine which of these two fighting game legends is stronger! #Tekken #StreetFighter #Vsbattle #debate #fightinggames #discussion #kazuya #ryu #streetfighterv #tekken7
Kazuya Mishima is a strong opponent, but there is a major difference between us.
When I was faced with my demons, I chose to defeat them.
When Kazuya faced his demons, he chose to become them.
what do you think about jin kazama
@@jakeysmom0990 In a similar vein, Jin has demons he too has dealt with. However, I do not see him as a true demon. There is still a human in there, desperate trying to keep those he cares about safe, if there are any left.
@@-Ryu what do think about you vs jin death battle
@@jakeysmom0990 jin would win
Proud to be your 60th sub
Should do Liu Kang so it might take awhile he actually has a lot of stuff to work with
Liu Kang would be a great video! I like that
There are a lot of statements in Tekken 6 & 7 saying that if kazuya and Jin fight they will blow up the world also jinpachi say that he will destroy all of existence though I do think that that could just be a very strange translation
Its hyperbole anyway, Tekken is planet at absolute best for now
I think Akuma and Kazuya (narratively) was meant to be equals. Remember how Akuma and Oro fights and they recognize each other as equals and with that they decided to not kill each other because they feel like they could do more fighting if they both live? That’s the same vibe I get with Akuma in Tekken 7 with Kazuya. I think their fight in the ending of Tekken 7 is a draw with Kazuya and Akuma retreating. I get that Akuma was meant to kill Kazuya but well, it’s Akuma after all. Seeking worthy opponents is his motivation. I mean it’s just that the idea of Akuma having no ultra super duper maximum transformation in Tekken 7, fighting someone who can transform himself into a demon which enhances his power by 6x is more interesting than having one character stronger than the other.
This comment might sound irrelevant to the topic of the video, but considering that you said you used Akuma as a benchmark for the powerscaling, I think you can get the idea that Kazuya is stronger than Ryu and wins the fight. Not easily though.
If you know these characters, I’d like to see a Trunks vs Link (Comp) cuz Trunks is strong but Comp Link is OP
Yey, maybe they can settle this in Smash now. ;)
Not wrong!
They've always been able to settle this in sfxt tho
Kazuya was dominating Ryu in SFxTekken and in NamcoXCapcon. Also the street fighters Comics are not canon
I've played a lot of street fighter and tekken, I feel as if though kazuya would win as one thing to note is akuma kn street fighter is stronger than ryu and in tekken 7 kazuya is seen to be on par, even stronger than akuma as when they got hit by the large laser akuma got knocked out and kazuya was still standing implying kazuya survived and so in my opinion kazuya is stronger 🐒.
I would pick Kazuya as a winner because he got stronger and he survive everything from explosion or getting blast just like his father Heihachi,Kazuya destroy the satellite in space and the his laser was faster than the light speed,Kazuya fought jack robots, survive from getting throw off the cliff and climb back,fought against Akuma, survive from the satellite blast,if you guys don't know about this Akuma in Tekken 7,this is not the actual Akuma,this is an alternate version of Akuma and this Akuma is stronger than the Street Fighter Akuma which Tekken Akuma one punch SF Akuma,I would pick Kazuya Mishima as a winner,he's stronger,faster, powerful,and has more fighting experiment than Ryu,Kazuya wins
I would be interested in where it is stated or shown that the two Akumas are different or have evidence of a different level. I couldn’t find anything on it lol. Also I edged out Kazuya, I think it’s really close but Kazuya has the more concrete evidence.
Any proof that Tekken Akuma is stronger?
@@gamer777core9 dude he's skill to Heihachi Mishima and Kazuya Mishima while Street Fighter Akuma doesn't even or near Heihachi and Kazuya level, Tekken Akuma strength is unbelievable strong and even was able to survive the satellite blast
How? Neither Akuma nor Heihachi have even a city level feat even chunli's kikosho was calculated to be city level+ and Tekken Tag tournament 2 is never said to be cannon so you don't have evidence to support your claim.PS street fighters Ryu survived the island blowing up and wasn't even harmed in anyway and the satellite blast is only building level ,so Ryu survived a blast more than 200 times more lethal.
@@gamer777core9 Ha you Street Fighter fans are so naive, literally Heihachi is easy stronger than Street fighter Akuma and even Kazuya is lol Akuma is an alternate version of Tekken and this Akuma is stronger and was able to beat Heihachi but didn't kill him, Heihachi survive the raging demon and Akuma gohadoken,nice try thinking that Heihachi and Kazuya are in city level, Heihachi and Kazuya are possiblity in Multi Continent Level while SF Akuma is in island level,Tekken Akuma on the other hand was able to be scale to Heihachi and Kazuya but he completely fail, Heihachi survive from Akuma and Heihachi uses the satellite blast on Kazuya and Akuma and completely interfere the fight,Akuma took off after to the ending were Kazuya and Akuma battle on the Volanco and they combine there blast and erupted the volcano,sure Akuma destroy a island but doesn't scale to the Mishima bloodline, Heihachi fought his wife and end up killing her,was throw off the cliff by his son,slam into the temple wall and fall too the ground by his grandson, survive from the jack explosion,catch a bullet with his teeth,fought and survive Akuma,and beaten Kazuya true final form,Kazuya was throw off the cliff,climb back up, defeated his father,throw in the volanco by his dad, fought the jack robots,fought Akuma and beat his father and throw him into the Volanco,and fought Akuma once again,if there is a chance who is the strongest SF Akuma or TK Akuma it would 100% obviously TK Akuma,he scale to Kazuya and Heihachi and he have some connection too Kazumi and the Devil Gene and he survive from the satellite blast and fought the jack robots,TK Akuma is much stronger and powerful and much faster than SF Akuma,SF Akuma wouldn't be able to stand a chance against TK Akuma
İf we look at Tekken 8 roster, we can say that Kazuya defeated Akuma or at least forced him to retreat. Kazuya is main antagonist in game safe and sound.
My opinion might change after Tekken 8. Might need to update this fool after the release of SF6 and TK8 lol
@@melodyllama_4988 yeah, completely understandable. Tekken 8's story will be huge impact on Kazuya's reputation.
Ok i gotta adress several stuff from this video:
1)Ryu doesnt scale to Akuma and never did, the island feat from alpha 2 was calculated to either small town or small city level and he didnt take any of that, Akuma hit the island and it began crumbling and sinking underwater as seen with Ryu floating and pieces of rock falling in background, let alone narration saying Akuma words give Ryu another test, as well as Akuma when he hit the island saying after he succumbs to the hado they will fight and truly know who is stronger, neither that ayers rock feat is any higher then mentioned earlier
Let alone Bison (whom akuma one shot in sf2) in alpha 3 beat Ryu and brain washed him, even sf5 arcade endings show that, ryu only time he one shot Bison was also there, only when the hado took over him, same hado controlled ryu that Gouken (Akuma few equals) beaten in both his sf4 ending and sf5 story of ryu, not to mention necalli beat him too, which akuma kills in his story, as well as beats Ryu who claims to go all out on Akuma, latter not even acknowledging him an equal or anything alike
Bison amped by black moon isnt multi continental and neither does it give that much power and ryu didnt one shot him anyway, nash absorbed what he could from Bison power after he got cut off from the black moon and ryu faces him after with mu no ken to end him, he even points out he had that power to beat necalli, referring to mu no ken he used on him in their 2nd battle, so again base form not scaling
I can go in more detail but it takes a lot, so on short ryu isnt on akuma level, not even currently, he also lost to characters on akuma level, as well as others Akuma can one shot or defeat with ease, comic books arent canon to the games, continuity errors, power levels are different and they share the verse with darkstalkers, which the games dont acknowledge
2) thats not how lightning speed works, agle to generate electricity in blows =/= lightning fast and neither blanka or mishimas use it as blast attacks to begin with
Tekken has feats with satellite lasers in the relativistic range which even early models of jack shown to react to, meanwhile street fighter has satellite lasers too, but much lower in speed and Ryu doesnt scale to them in base, kazuya by power scaling chain to the feats makes him massively faster
3) akuma in tekken =/= akuma in street fighter, michael murray which is 2nd in command after harada has spoken that akuma in tekken doesnt make the two franchises tied to each other, let alone they dont acknowledge any other events or references from each others series in their own to imply a shared universe
4) e honda feat is an outlier, compared to any other feats from characters above him and comparable, its way too inconsistent and the meteor he destroyed isnt multi continental, it waa calced at mountain/island levels and its shared anyway, you see he needed the red character help as well for it
Tag 2 feat isnt non canon and with tekken 7 they had flashbacks in the main story of that game, a character bio stating something only from tag 2 being canonically a thing, as well as many endings from that game tie with lore, such as steve or leo, tag 2 is as canon like any of the main games by all that and jack ending in that game is not stated to be non canon or anything like that, its consistent by also having in tekken 6 claiming to be made for mass scale destruction which in that narrative = country destruction
5) ryu hadokens are useless on Kazuya, in the crossover with kazuya and ryu fighting he fires a hadoken at him just for kazuya to nullify it via his electric fist, which even in tekken 7 you can do it vs akuma, Kazuya lasers also travel in space as seen in tekken 7, faster then ryu projectiles
6) the devil gene has shown haxes like forcefields, shockwaves, telekinesis to explode stuff or force choke star wars style, become invisible, go intangible, regen to heal from brain dmg, ryu has barely if any counters to those
Kazuya stomps Ryu, its not a close battle
This is a lot to respond to. I don’t currently have a discord but I’d love to have you on it when I do. For now, I didn’t know Akuma wasn’t the same in both verses. I tried searching for some kind of statement regarding it for ages and I even had some others try to find it and nothing. It’d be a huge help if you can give that statement. Do you have any way I can hit you up besides YT for private messaging?
As I am 100% down to look over my info and make a follow up to this video 👌
@@melodyllama_4988
Its rather easy to find that statement, i can just now get it in no time
So far i have messenger, discord and fandom for talks, i would rather prefer the 2nd and 3rd ones tho
If you want accurate stats on Tekken, check Top Strongest Wikia (TSW), i helped there and contains scans, calcs and so on for almost the whole cast
Same on Street Fighter, but that one is still worked on so its not complete yet fully
@@blackdarkness6798 Alright thanks man! I’ll check out the wiki. I’ll also keep you in mind for the server when I make it 👌
@@melodyllama_4988
Also the quote saying about Akuma, will give you the link too if you want
"Street Fighter and Tekken they share the same universe? (Michael Murray)
Akuma will be added to Tekken 7 via Tekken 7. Fated Retribution, which is a major update of the game We had already left clues as to his presence in the game but nobody realized.
In the trailer for Tekken 7, Kazumi talking to a mysterious person on the doorstep. Everyone concluded that it was Heihachi, but it was Akuma.
We would not go as far as saying that the Street Fighter universe is integrally connected to Tekken. Tekken has always its own history and atmosphere. This unique part of the Mishima saga contains a window where Akuma plays a role. As a character, it fits very well in this environment. It does not look out of his element in Tekken. But add to this part of the story makes it even better mixing.
But I would not say that the two universes are linked. Just this part."
Kazuya vs Superman dceu
Ryu e mais forte que Kazuya isso e fato e Akuma vence os dois juntos .. se levarmos em consideração final forma de Ryu então ele vence Akuma como fez nas HQs .
I Know your gonna go with Ryu on winning but island feat at a megaton about it, not compared to Jack island feat and it's a gigaton level
Oh yeah. This is kinda an old opinion. Upon further inspection, Kazuya should have this. Unless of course you wanna use the Udon Comics Akuma feat since you know, nothing is canon in these games 🤣
@@melodyllama_4988 comic that had Ryu combining both Pon and satu no hado, that never existed in the real SF timeline or mention, u might as well add Tekken comics then surly Angel's a God on there
Ryu scales to this explosion:
www.deviantart.com/kirito352/art/Shadaloo-HQ-explosion-Remade-Street-Fighter-886433615
@@javiereduardocarrillocastr6826 great info. Missed this info here!
@@javiereduardocarrillocastr6826 no one got hit by it especially Ryu and akuma, doesn't explain anything, and we can't be certain bison got hit and survived cause there no cutscenes of him getting blasted by it, he was no where to be found during investigation
The Jack ending isn't canon. Period ! Nothing from Tag 2 is canon. Remember Michelle and Julia easily beat Marduk and King. Also, that Akuma in Tekken is down played just like it is done in Marvel vs Capcom. Ryu one shotted Gill who one shotted Oni who is far superior to Akuma that put an island to shame with one punch lol. Don't forget that Ken also knocked Ryu out of his hado form lol.
Yeah Ryu win FTW
Ryu stomps Kazuya
Ryu>Jin>>>Kazuya
Jin >ryu> kazuya
@@zedking3410 Nope
@@KingBeyonder616 proff ?