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    [0:00] Introduction
    [0:50] Soaking the beans (1 lb beans in 8 cups water) for 48 hours (I did 42-44) hours at room temperature. Stir occasionally.
    Make sure they have a few hours to settle before I start removing the liquid.
    [1:49] The yarn
    [3:10] Preparing the yarn dyeing
    presoak no mordant yarn at room temperature for over 1 hour. Squeeze out extra water and place in a plastic shoe box.
    Rinse the alum mordanted yarn, squeeze out excess water and place in a separate plastic shoebox
    [5:03] Adding the Black Bean extract to the yarn!
    [9:39] pH Check
    Not a HUGE pH difference between them, but with mordant is more acidic. With mordant ~ 5 no mordant ~6.
    [11:45] Soaking the beans a second time to extract a bit more color for 6 hours then add the extra liquid to the soaking yarn
    Cover and let the yarn sit for well over 24 hours
    [13:11] 2.5 days later - let's wash out the yarn!
    [18:09] the finished dry yarn and conclusoins
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  • @ChemKnitsTutorials
    @ChemKnitsTutorials  Před 4 lety +1

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  • @MrsShirotora
    @MrsShirotora Před 2 lety +5

    In my one experiment with black beans I threw in a skein that I had already dyed yellow with Queen Anne's Lace and it came out a really nice green color.

  • @sharonking7978
    @sharonking7978 Před 4 lety +8

    I agree with Theresa Satterfield. I would like to see a dark red bean dye process. Fun. Thanks Rebecca.

  • @deenomad1975
    @deenomad1975 Před 4 lety +1

    Great job Rebecca! This has to be my favorite video in awhile. It makes me say "Isnt science amazing!?" 😍👏👏👏👏👏

  • @amandall3633
    @amandall3633 Před 4 lety +1

    Oh Wow, what a difference, I'm gobsmacked. Thankyou Rabecca, you never fail to amaze me 😊💕

  • @lulut7362
    @lulut7362 Před 4 lety

    Beautiful results, Rebecca! It was worth all your experimentation and prep beforehand. Have to say, your reaction to the non-mordant slimy yarn made me chuckle, I was right there with you. ChemKnits Tutorials are the best!

  • @amymikelson3060
    @amymikelson3060 Před 4 lety +8

    I agree with MissGroves, said "Oh My!" when you opened the second container with the mordanted yarn. I think you said you used alum? This turned out gorgeous. Even love the gray of the yarn without the mordant. I agree, I think more beans would give you a more saturated color. Worth a try. And red beans too, very cool idea. Thank you for being willing to give this a try for us so we can learn from your successes as well as your mistakes.

    • @ChemKnitsTutorials
      @ChemKnitsTutorials  Před 4 lety +2

      Yes, I used an Alum mordant (from the Dandelion's video)
      I'm so glad that you are all enjoying these projects. It is something that is out of my comfort zone a bit since I'm new to the procedures, but I'm having a lot of fun giving this a shot.

  • @marlenejones6266
    @marlenejones6266 Před 4 lety +2

    Hmmmmm i love the gray a lot. Im going to try it. I want the denim too though. Awesome job R.

  • @deneennewbill7528
    @deneennewbill7528 Před 4 lety

    I'm having so much fun watching! Wow!🤗

  • @nicolehaugen9265
    @nicolehaugen9265 Před 4 lety +1

    Beautiful!
    I love the colours that you've captured

  • @Pipsqwak
    @Pipsqwak Před 10 měsíci

    I strain out the beans and sludge by pouring the dye bath through a 250-micron mesh brewer's bag. You can also just put the black beans in the mesh bag and suspend the mesh bag in your water to extract the dye. I do this with all my dye materials.

  • @Chrisnatal1979
    @Chrisnatal1979 Před 4 lety

    The blue is gorgeous! My favorite of the four.

    • @ChemKnitsTutorials
      @ChemKnitsTutorials  Před 4 lety

      Thank you! I love how that turned out, too. The neutral non mordant colors are also really pretty, some of my favorites of natural dyed browns.

  • @hollymoon9296
    @hollymoon9296 Před 3 lety +1

    I've read (but am trying later today, myself) that if you add a mordant it is metallic by nature and makes a stickier, crunchier, yarn. If you also use almost equal parts mordant-of-choice PLUS cream of tartar powder, it will counteract this textural change.
    I am trying it on some tussah silk this afternoon

    • @ChemKnitsTutorials
      @ChemKnitsTutorials  Před 3 lety +1

      I honestly am not sure! I am very much a novice when it comes to natural dyeing.

  • @netsumi0907
    @netsumi0907 Před 4 lety

    wow!I love this blue!

  • @cadileigh9948
    @cadileigh9948 Před rokem +1

    interesting that this technique leaves you with beans you can cook and eat, or plant to produce more

  • @knitpurlsquirrelwithgrannydee

    That blue shade is really pretty!

  • @leahgroess5361
    @leahgroess5361 Před 4 lety +2

    While the vibrant blue is definitely the star here, the grey of the un-mordanted superwash is really pretty too! I think I'm going to have to do some experimenting with my black bean dying adventures. I have wool in a few different light colors (and white) and I'm curious what they'll look like with a blue or gray wash over them. I'm really glad you had another try with the black beans, the results this time were amazing!

  • @breakmydreams
    @breakmydreams Před 4 lety

    Very pretty colors

  • @dogsinolga
    @dogsinolga Před 4 lety

    NICE! Would love to see a mini done like above and a mini in Ball Jar sun dyed!
    ~Marie Great purple... wish it could have stayed. At least you got to keep a little!

    • @ChemKnitsTutorials
      @ChemKnitsTutorials  Před 4 lety

      I'd worry a bit about the smell if this is left in the sun for a few days, but maybe it would only need a day or so. I could set up a few jars and have them outside, inside at room temp, and hten steam one. Hmmmmm..........

    • @dogsinolga
      @dogsinolga Před 4 lety

      @@ChemKnitsTutorials Ahhh... the downside to beans!

  • @DeerheartStudioArts
    @DeerheartStudioArts Před 4 lety +1

    Have you experimented with cotton? In my days of decades past we used salt with cellulose fibres and alum with protein fibres. I am going to experiment with dying paper and have been inspired by your vid. Thanks !🇨🇦✌️❤️🙏

  • @arufi066
    @arufi066 Před 4 lety

    I JUST bought black beans to try this!! I would love to see you try the cold/slow mordant method. When you're on a budget, possibly ruining the texture of your yarn with too much heat is a scary prospect

    • @ChemKnitsTutorials
      @ChemKnitsTutorials  Před 4 lety

      I completely understand this. This is one big reason why I try to describe any texture changes as I experiment. ;) I hope to try that soon, too. I'm not sure if I'll have a chance before hte weather gets cold, but it is high up on my list.

  • @terriclark3150
    @terriclark3150 Před 4 lety

    Awesome!

  • @bonniemiles7957
    @bonniemiles7957 Před 4 lety

    Would love to see you use sun dyeing next time you work with the black beans.

    • @ChemKnitsTutorials
      @ChemKnitsTutorials  Před 4 lety

      That could work nicely... but that could also end up being rather stinky. I've heard that things can start to ferment over time, but at about 70 degrees F things didn't start smelling so I feel lucky.

  • @dpr4820
    @dpr4820 Před 4 lety

    So fun! How long did you soak the yarn in the mordant bath and what was the ratio to water? Thank you!

  • @divyagna5851
    @divyagna5851 Před 3 lety

    Beautiful ❤️🍫

  • @thomclemmer2443
    @thomclemmer2443 Před 4 lety +8

    ...just a thought remembering my mother preserving jams and jellies the jelly liquid was alway strained through a tea towel to remove sediment so the jelly would be clear ...lining a large colander with a tea towel and emptying the brew pot through the tea towel should remove or lessen the sediment and be a fast simple solution to the muck ???

    • @ChemKnitsTutorials
      @ChemKnitsTutorials  Před 4 lety

      Maybe.... I'm honestly not sure. The tips after my first flop included making sure to avoid all the sediment.

    • @innahaapa1314
      @innahaapa1314 Před 3 lety

      Or maybe pour through a coffee filter and then let it sit so the sediment sets to the bottom. But this is a couple of years late...

  • @turdusrufiventris7841
    @turdusrufiventris7841 Před 3 lety

    Wow amazing difference of color between mordanted and non mordanted. I'm looking forward to blue dye some yarn so I'll definitely will use alum and also try vinegar / baking soda effects.
    As for the slime, I read that acidity protects protein fibers, so I imagine that's why we may see a correspondence between slime/lower ph here.
    Also alum has sulfate, a soft base. I heard that wool can produce sulphuric acid under the action of uv light from the sun. Maybe adding the conjugated base of sulphuric acid helped to turn the solution more acidic? Maybe I'm just babbling but it's fun for me to try to think of an explanation to what happened.
    I love your channel and I'll be trying some of this dyeing myself.

    • @DannyM1126
      @DannyM1126 Před 3 lety +1

      Oo im curious about the vinegar result! Do share what happen when you complete it!

  • @YuliaLinderoth
    @YuliaLinderoth Před 4 lety +2

    Have these faded much since you dyed them? The blue one is so beautiful and a great alternative to woad and Indigo!

    • @ChemKnitsTutorials
      @ChemKnitsTutorials  Před 4 lety +2

      They didn't fade while they were still in my stash. I sold them so I'm honestly not sure what they look like today.

  • @vuvu89vio
    @vuvu89vio Před 3 lety

    Hi Rebecca, this looks really good! Thanks for the video😊 I am very curious about the longevity of these. How long do the colours last, do they fade with washing over time?

    • @ChemKnitsTutorials
      @ChemKnitsTutorials  Před 3 lety

      I haven't tested the wash fastness of most of my natural dyes. I think that it can vary a lot, but using a mordant can help with the longevity. (I obviously wash yarn the first time, but after that I don't have any data.)

  • @theresasatterfield2828

    Loved this Rebecca. The color combo that came from the black bean liquid is magical. I wonder what would happen if you used a dark red bean? 🧶❤

  • @MissGroves
    @MissGroves Před 4 lety +3

    Totally gasped when you lifted the lid and the blues popped out! Now I'm curious if a splash of vinegar would shift the colour again, though I also strangely like the grey colours
    A recollection just popped in my head, alum can make the yarn slightly sticky, this would sort of explain the light felting maybe?

    • @amymikelson3060
      @amymikelson3060 Před 4 lety +1

      I did too!

    • @ChemKnitsTutorials
      @ChemKnitsTutorials  Před 4 lety

      I did absolutely feel a textural difference or slime on one of the yarns, but now I don't remember which one. I'm sure there is some pH sensitivity here. I'll test it out next time.

  • @MichiganCrimeTime
    @MichiganCrimeTime Před rokem

    Never put your yarn under running water! Nor agitate it when wet. That felts it!

  • @HesperidiumStitches
    @HesperidiumStitches Před 4 lety +1

    Adding baking soda will give you a blue green color

  • @bennettstubie4924
    @bennettstubie4924 Před 4 lety +2

    I am wondering what your water source is. I have tried this in the past with dug well water in Ontario and got a very pale green.

  • @FreyaCatherineMusic
    @FreyaCatherineMusic Před 3 lety

    Just did this today!
    Used ~500g of beans, six cups of water and left them for three days.
    Dyed some spun+plyed South American wool with the first dye bath, then used up the rest with some Merino. First one went a lovely cold grey colour, second one went a very pale grey, as the greyness will have counteracted the warmer cream colour the wool was initially. Not too mad I didn't get purple, as the Grey's are lovely. I mordented both - the first one overnight, second one for 40mins, both with 20% alum to yarn weight, and added approx 1 tbsp vinegar per cup of yarn (very scientific :'))
    My only complaint is it smells ATROCIOUS, stunk out the kitchen and my yarn smells too! Both have been washed twice, with dish soap, yet they still smell of the beans! Any ideas on getting the stink out? :(

    • @ChemKnitsTutorials
      @ChemKnitsTutorials  Před 3 lety

      The smell wasn't as bad as I thought, but yes It can ferment and get a bit gross. Maybe soak the yarn in some vinegar for a while to get the smell out? Or some scented wool wash?

  • @kathleenmcquade31
    @kathleenmcquade31 Před 3 lety

    Next time you are in the dollar store you can find a small strainer where the cooking tools are.

    • @ChemKnitsTutorials
      @ChemKnitsTutorials  Před 3 lety

      I have a bunch of mesh produce bags that I use to put natural dye items in now so that helps.
      With the black beans, I saw a recommendation to NOT pour because the sludge can go through a filter and it would shift the colors more brown - but I could do a side by side test on thsi!

  • @susannye6797
    @susannye6797 Před 4 lety

    Hi Rebecca. I love your videos and especially was excited about this one to achieve a blue color. I repeated your experiment by hot-mordanting KnitPicks Swish superwash yarn with 15 w/w % alum and adding the black bean supernatant carefully avoiding the sludge. I never saw any blue throughout the process and after two days at room temperature the yarn was gray (albeit beautiful) not blue. It looked like your example Any suggestions? I soaked the beans for ~7 days while waiting for my alum to arrive. Was this too long? Also, we have well water, not city water. Could that have had an impact. Many thanks.

    • @ChemKnitsTutorials
      @ChemKnitsTutorials  Před 4 lety

      It is possible that the pH of the tap water made a difference. mine runs slightly acidic. A lot of these natural dyes are pH sensitive. Otherwise, I'm not completely sure.

    • @susannye6797
      @susannye6797 Před 4 lety

      @@ChemKnitsTutorials Thanks much. I'll check it out.

  • @wandamuise2636
    @wandamuise2636 Před 4 lety

    Hi Rebecca, This turned out beautifully. Have you tried dying with yellow or green split peas? When we soak them for a soup there is a ton of colour that comes out of it. I would love to see more of natural dying. Oh could you please explain the different types of mordant? Thanks

    • @ChemKnitsTutorials
      @ChemKnitsTutorials  Před 4 lety

      I'm not the best person to describe the mordants exactly since I'm still new learning about them. Basically, different metal ions can help shift both the color and the intensity of various colored molecules. In natural dyeing text books they frequently have different colors from different mordants laid out next to each other.

    • @ChemKnitsTutorials
      @ChemKnitsTutorials  Před 4 lety

      I hope to explore more in the future!

    • @wandamuise2636
      @wandamuise2636 Před 4 lety

      @@ChemKnitsTutorials Thank you for replying. I think I asked the question wrong, I'm so sorry. I meant to ask what the different types are mordants are and which yarn would I use with a certain mordant? Why I'm asking is because I want to dye some cotton and I'm not sure what to use to get the colour to strike and I can't find the video where you dyed cotton yarn. I know that I can use alum or vinegar for wool. But, what would I use for cotton? Thank you.

  • @azealiabanksstan4eva234

    With a lemon modifier I got a reddish purple color

    • @ChemKnitsTutorials
      @ChemKnitsTutorials  Před 4 lety

      Black beans are definitely pH sensitive. I hope to play with this at some point!

  • @kyststudio-epicartadventure

    If you strain out the beans and let that pot sit, you won’t get beans and the sludge might be easier to avoid.

    • @ChemKnitsTutorials
      @ChemKnitsTutorials  Před rokem

      I should have done that - it would have been easier than trying to remove the liquid from the top.

  • @trudy__taylorandjorjamummy

    You need a tea strainer!! It's like a sieve, but smaller, fits over the top of a tea mug

    • @ChemKnitsTutorials
      @ChemKnitsTutorials  Před 4 lety

      I just bought some mesh bags to use for natural dyeing this summer. That wouldn't really help in this case still since I was trying to remove liquid from the top without disturbing the non-bean sediment from the bottom.But I could do side by side - strained vs gently removed...

    • @trudy__taylorandjorjamummy
      @trudy__taylorandjorjamummy Před 4 lety

      @@ChemKnitsTutorials
      I meant for when you were pouring the liquid onto the yarn, you were using your hand to catch the beans xx

    • @ChemKnitsTutorials
      @ChemKnitsTutorials  Před 4 lety

      @@trudy__taylorandjorjamummy oooooooo! Lol

    • @trudy__taylorandjorjamummy
      @trudy__taylorandjorjamummy Před 4 lety

      @@ChemKnitsTutorials
      I re read my first comment, I should of said about it being when pouring onto the yarn lol, I was tired lol
      I love watching your videos though, I sometimes end up going down a wormhole and watch 3 or 4 in a row!!
      ❤❤❤

  • @ElisandeWalters
    @ElisandeWalters Před rokem

    coming in from 2023 now and wonder how long the hues stuck around in terms of fastness? would you tell?

    • @ChemKnitsTutorials
      @ChemKnitsTutorials  Před rokem

      The yarn went to a customer so I don't have a real update on the color fastness. But since my inventory is stored in a closet there isn't a lot of light exposure. (Of course, some molecules just degrade over time without expoure to light, so I'm not sure.)

  • @grilledcheez08
    @grilledcheez08 Před 4 lety

    In the same bucket, how did one yarn turn purple and the other one blue? Like a definite split down the middle?

    • @ChemKnitsTutorials
      @ChemKnitsTutorials  Před 4 lety

      I dyed the yarn in two separate containers. One yarn was treated with an alum mordant and the other wasn't. This led to the color change.

  • @dragnflei
    @dragnflei Před 3 lety

    Not sure if anyone has already suggested it but couldn’t you pour the liquid through a small strainer in order to catch any beans that get scooped up?

    • @ChemKnitsTutorials
      @ChemKnitsTutorials  Před 3 lety +1

      I should have. I didn't have a dedicated dye strainer on hand so that made things harder. I now have some bags that I use for natural dyeing (think like a big tea bag) that I would use. This wouldn't help with the sludge but would help with the beans I think.

  • @kathleenmcquade31
    @kathleenmcquade31 Před 3 lety

    Rebecca, did I miss it? Did you use acid in any of the stages? And why or why not acid?

    • @ChemKnitsTutorials
      @ChemKnitsTutorials  Před 3 lety

      No acid! not all natural dyes need it, although the mordant may have shifted the pH so I'll need to check on that at some point.

  • @mindyalbright4491
    @mindyalbright4491 Před rokem

    What would have happened if you had added vinegar, to make the dye bath more acidic?

    • @ChemKnitsTutorials
      @ChemKnitsTutorials  Před rokem

      I'm not sure if that would make a difference, I was loosely following some other tutorials. Acid will make a difference for some types of colorful molecules, but may not for others. In this case I think the mordant helps complext the dyes to the yarn.

  • @DeerheartStudioArts
    @DeerheartStudioArts Před 4 lety

    Is there a particular reason you did not strain the beans to get dye without beans or sludge?🇨🇦✌️❤️🙏

    • @ChemKnitsTutorials
      @ChemKnitsTutorials  Před 4 lety

      Mainly because I didn't have a good strainer fine enough to not let the sludge through.

    • @TarragonMom
      @TarragonMom Před 4 lety

      I know I'm late here but in case you give this another try. I was thinking maybe if you strained out the beans then let the solution settle until the sludge went back to the bottom. You'd still have to dip carefully but no beans in the way. Then again maybe having to avoid the beans also ensures you avoid the sludge. Looking beautiful though! Love the videos and your yarns. Trying to work up the courage to dye yarn myself now. I think it would be so fun to crochet something from yarn I dyed myself!

  • @jaymeclark2213
    @jaymeclark2213 Před 3 lety

    Next time use a sieve when pouring in the "dye", and it will catch the beans.

    • @ChemKnitsTutorials
      @ChemKnitsTutorials  Před 3 lety

      If I had one that was dedicated for dyeing this is exactly what I would do. (Of course, the directions did say not to pour because you don't want the sludge at the bottom, but some kind of strainer would have helped me a lot!)

  • @coffeecrochetcuddles9568

    Have you done blackberries?

  • @undecidedgenius
    @undecidedgenius Před 4 lety

    Have you ever tried to dyeing yarn with henna
    I have not seen any using henna and I so no reason it should not work on wool fabrics.

    • @ChemKnitsTutorials
      @ChemKnitsTutorials  Před 4 lety

      I have not tried henna before. I'm not sure if it would be permanent on fiber or if it would wash out eventually.

  • @CoryWestgate
    @CoryWestgate Před 3 lety

    Ever tried Copper Sulphate mordant with Black Bean dye?

    • @ChemKnitsTutorials
      @ChemKnitsTutorials  Před 3 lety

      No, I haven't. I don't have plans to explore more mordants beyond Alum at this point.

  • @jkabholat
    @jkabholat Před 4 lety +2

    Why not strain it thru a couple of layers of cheesecloth

    • @ChemKnitsTutorials
      @ChemKnitsTutorials  Před 4 lety

      With black beans, we really want to avoid the sludge at the bottom of the soaked beans. At least this is what I've read. This is why I'm pulling the liquid from the top while trying to not disturb the beans versus pouring off the liquid.

    • @theresasatterfield2828
      @theresasatterfield2828 Před 4 lety

      @@ChemKnitsTutorials if you were to strain the liquid , and let it settle overnight, all of the sediment may stay in the bottom? This way you won't have to worry about the beans getting in the way, and you may have access to more of the liquid.
      Something I might try.

  • @yermomom
    @yermomom Před 4 lety

    Do you think this would work with cotton yarn?

    • @ChemKnitsTutorials
      @ChemKnitsTutorials  Před 4 lety

      I'm not sure. I've only tried black beans the two times so far, but mostly looking at wool based conditions versus cotton. Cotton tends to need harsher conditions to dye, but I need to explore this more. :D

    • @yermomom
      @yermomom Před 4 lety

      @@ChemKnitsTutorials I’ve got 400g of fingering weight cotton I’m about to throw into the pot with dye from the avocados I simmered last night. I added in about a teaspoon of baking soda to the dye. I’ve heard that should keep the color more in the pink range. I think I’ll keep it at a low simmer for an hour or so and then leave in the pot overnight before washing. Keep your fingers crossed for me!

  • @jodiekingsley5181
    @jodiekingsley5181 Před 4 lety

    Can you dye yarn with grape juice

    • @ChemKnitsTutorials
      @ChemKnitsTutorials  Před 4 lety

      I'm not sure. You would likely get a nice warm brown from it. I've tried wine before: czcams.com/video/Y4TDHvLXoqg/video.html

    • @cinderjw
      @cinderjw Před 3 lety

      Concord grape skins mordanted with alum make gorgeous purples

  • @naryaknits
    @naryaknits Před 4 lety

    Maybe suck the liquid with a turkey baster to make it easier with no beans.

  • @tattercandy
    @tattercandy Před 4 lety +1

    what can be used for mordants

    • @ChemKnitsTutorials
      @ChemKnitsTutorials  Před 4 lety

      most mordants are metal salts. Alum is a common one. Iron is also frequently used. Copper and Chromium need different disposal (I think, I"M not 100% sure) so are used with more caution.

  • @diablominero
    @diablominero Před rokem

    Alum is somewhat antibacterial.

  • @slavenkabozic9655
    @slavenkabozic9655 Před rokem

    Zasto ne dozvoljavate prevod na srpski jezik? Jako sam zaintetesovan!

  • @ShalandaElise
    @ShalandaElise Před 4 lety

    Wouldn't it be best to strain it? 🙄🤔

    • @ChemKnitsTutorials
      @ChemKnitsTutorials  Před 4 lety

      Sort of. I read to avoid the sludge at the bottom of the beans soaking to get the most blue yarn - so I didn't want to stir up or distrub the liquid at the very bottom.