The iPhone 15 Is Everything Wrong With Apple
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1m+ subs and still promoting scams...no morals or ethics...
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Motorola: Am I a joke to you?
epic video
I love the EU for really hammering down on apple and the other phone companies for there wasteful behaviours it’s a great step in the right direction.
I'm not pro-EU to say the least, but I'm on their side with this.
the EU overall is still a bit of an asshole.
@@HBSDU54 Everything should be at the newest USB level purely for consumer convenience
That's like the one good thing about the EU
Wasteful 😂 Jesus sound like that global warming freak 😂
the regular models still being 60hz and some 200 dollar samsung phones having 120hz from 5 years ago is insane
Nothing new, they’ve been peddling hobbled gear for decades.
Cause if they added 120Hz then no way ppls will buy the Pro series 🤷💀💀
shhhhh! iFools will be mad at you😂
It will remain that way till 2026
Don't forget the USB-C, it's the same as $200 dollar budget phones
That “Mother Nature” ad oozed so much corporate poison that I passed out and woke up in a suit and tie in a cubicle.
i saw a comment on a solar punk video and its so incredibly true "for the success of solar punk, the abolition of the wrongs of capitalism is very important"
It’s so cringey I almost fell from my chair laughing
😂😂😂
Thought it's a parody at first.
when you compare it to their usual ads which are all cookie cutter ads that anyone can make, I think its a nice change of pace ngl.
Back when we started having cell phones, a person may have forgotten to charge the phone at night, and we would swap the battery with someone else in the household, while the uncharged battery gets charged. It was so convenient. Almost as convenient as 0 to 100% charge in 45 minutes.
well im still young but i still remember like 7years ago i thought front facing speakers were the greatest innovation to entertainment consumption and then here we are now where we have holes in our screens..... f*ck iphone and f*ck those sheeps who keeps buying them
Not really.
Not at all, don't forget at the time we don't have such fancy connections, everytime switching the battery we had to set date and time manually
More like 0% to 100% in 30 seconds by swapping the battery😅
The good old days are gone 😢
dude, if that's really what's upsetting you then buy a power bank wtf, they are super cheap
Innovation is dead everywhere. Everything is a remake. Ads are everywhere with nothing to show for it
Which begs the question, what will happen next?
I agree, with that being said i'll be pre ordering this week😭
Facts burn it all back to 1970
Innovative would be a positive vid from Moon without clips of Mr Robot, 1984, American Psycho, etc., etc…
Just in time for AI to come in and take over...the timing is crazy, AI is rising as innovation is dieing..from products to content its all remakes or un-original variations of something old
Thanks for mentioning that there is no need for a new phone release every year
@@joeyn.3567 They release new phone every year then start taking down and discontinuing the older ones. And yes, to pressure us into buying their new products cuz the older ones are "outdated".
Other brands does that even more often. Your phone gets obsolete very 6 months or so
@@sgxmp8565 bro i still have an iphone 8. infact many people still use very old iphones. And if it no longer supports updates then its still fine. as long as it still do basic things well thats all it really matters just dont go on shady websites on your phone.
You know if you showed me a Iphone 12 or a Iphone 15, i would be fooled to think it is one or the other. Only geeks know the difference. This is how simular they look 😄
I still have an iphone 7🤷🏼♂️slow but still works for me
I stopped buying any Apple products years ago and will never go back.
I never bite into the Apple brand.
Why?
All phone companies have this problem. Phones themselves are the problem more than anything, not Apple. This isn’t to say they arent leading the herd though.
@@blacklyfe5543 It's very simple for me. I don't think I need a phone this expensive
Same here. I left after iphone 7+ and the battery taking a dump. In only 1 1/2 yrs. Thats some bs. I said f that and never went back.
Buying something to impress people is literally the stupidest thing I’ve ever heard. I’m not spending 1 cent to impress anybody. I buy things that I like.
Not me I want to impress people and not look like a strange person what ever the world buys so will i and so will you
hurts my eyes. It causes a headache from PWM. Eye damaging.
People out here buying cringe Stanley mugs like dudes, they have lead in them why are you drinking out of a water bottle where the water is exposed to lead?
Edit: lol you don't really need more than a 100 dollar phone for anything (if you buy used of course, even buying new you can do the same thing with 200 dollar phones) because all people use their phones for nowadays is screaming into tiktok and holding their phones upside down thinking it gets them internet points or something.
@user-wt4ql4kr1w bro is a professional sheep. Trend follows like u are actual NPCs (I hate that term but this is the literal definition of one)
Thats it!
If Repairability was more a factor in product design, then we would see people using their devices for YEARS and not months.
They don't want you using 1 product for years, they want your product to die so you have to buy another one. Its called intended obsolescence
people do use their the devices for years. A lot of years.
Thats exactly what they dont want, they want their phones to last maximum a year so you have to buy a new one each year.
I have a Fairphone. It has a 5 year guarantee and it's modular. So when my battery starts to become worse I can simply buy a new one and pop it in. Costs like €30
@@TRIF0RCE Do they? Then why do they work so well for so long? I am still rocking my iPhone X for 4+ years now.
These upgrades are only underwhelming if you buy one every year. Ideally, you should be using your phone for at least 3 years or more. I have the 12 Mini since 2020 and it’s still rocking great.
Still got my iPhone XR after 4 years and it’s still working good so I’mma continue using it for a another year or two
It's easier to undermine changes then it is to understand them. Iphone can support ray tracing now, has a significantly imporved camera, and improved battery life. what more do people want?
I got the XR. Bought in 2018 and it’s still kicking ! 😂
Exactly, I have the normal 12 and it still feels like a new phone
@@funnyberries4017lol isheep
I buy a iPhone every 5 years definitely will notice innovation when you stick with your tech for that long 😂
i went from 8+ to 15 pro max and it's not as impressive as its sound
5 years is nothing at all
@@AmicusAdastrai went from 15 pro to s24u was not really impressed i should have bought nothing
Tim thinks he's cooking, but irl, he is not
based fax
he burnt the meal
For someone like me who buys an iPhone every 7 years I can safely say I see innovation when I buy a new phone. I think for those that buy the newest phone every year they’re the ones getting screwed.
comment makes sense only if they are using for longer period
You are right in your case you buy phone after 7 years so you are definitely going to experience a change but we are talking about phones in general
Yep. I’ve only had three. A 4, a 6 and now a 12.
I only replace them when they break irreparably. When did people stop treating their possessions like that?
hah, rookie numbers, i have a 2017 oppo f5 on android 7 with a dent on the back and a crack on the screen, it is a midranger running on android 7 lmao
@@TesterAnimal1 People that buy cheap Android phones still treat them like that, for example my everyday phone is a 3 year old 250 euro Android phone and i'll definitely use it at the least for another year.
IPhones though are more like a brand thing. Like you don't want to appear with last years Gucci bag kind of thing. So for many it became just a show off which is why is important to always get the latest model and they feel disappointed if not enough innovation was put in it because they feel obliged to buy it anyway.
The people that buy a new iPhone every year are the same people that make $16 an hour but wear Gucci shirts and Air Jordan’s. Stop caring what strangers think about you and you’ll be a lot happier.
👍👍👍💯
apple fanboys are the absolute worst, and fake af
no matter what slop they dump in the trough, Apple Fanboys will eat it.
laptop class laptop classing
Howard stern is worth 600 million and buys every new iPhone, u don’t know what u talking bout kid
I upgraded from iPhone 7 to Fold5… back to android and I don’t have any regrets and at least I can tell the difference between a single screen and one that’s substantially wider when opened up… I don’t see myself going back to Apple.
how the battery for the flip5?
@@xitoroman I don't have the 5, but I have the fold 3. With constant use from 100%, even now almost 4 years later, still lasts about 6 hours before getting the 15% charge warning. Depending on what im doing anyways. If im having youtube in a side window while doing other tasks, it can last shorter, maybe around 4-5 hours of constant use.
I had a phone with a touchscreen, internet browser, e-mail, gps and navigation software in 2003! Apple was not the first. No way.
Apple is the embodiment of Tyler Durden's quote "We work jobs we hate to buy things we don't need, and the things you own, will end up owning you"
Nobody is forcing you to upgrade every year.
@@aryan-ud1lwstop crying
@@aryan-ud1lwindian😂
@@georgeb8679what was that all about?
@@davidw9468 "and yet buy it anyway"
said from someone who never own an iphone before. Feels like owning a gaming laptop
One correction: Apple was not the first company to produce a phone with 2 cameras. LG Optimus 3D and HTC EVO 3D both came out in 2011 with dual cameras. There are lots of innovations that apple was late to adopt and that other phone companies had on their phones years before Apple did. Lots of people hold on to having iPhones because they don't want to get used to a new system and, as you mentioned, because of the FOMO.
Lol
One correction? The video was littered with inaccuracies.
Sorry, but these phones were just gimmicks. Other than the multiple lenses on the iPhone 7 Plus, this 3D feature hasn't become a trend.
"Lots of people hold on to having iPhones because they don't want to get used to a new system". Oh wait, is that that millions of people around the world do with Windows? Whoops, we never hear of this, apparently. Junkies have been buying Windows for 25 years, hating every version, but still buy it, because they are used to it? Windows being late adding features? That's how Windows operates, being late. And when they finally do it (if they do), they do it wrong, usually.
idiots always think apple are the first to innovate when they're actually late to the party with everything
as an old iphone 6s user i feel that was the breaking point for me. when i was finding my new phone i looked into iphone se and eleven. swiping the home from my 6s and an SE that was on display in a store felt surreal, same exact experience. i imagine that is the same when an XS user now tries to do that with this new phone. i escaped the cage.
You’re surprised that 2 60hz screens feel the same?
Just say that you are broke or greedy. Who tf buys iPhone SE😭😭😭
@@TheSakMusik the irony of this comment considering the video this is posted under
@@TheSakMusiki do but even tho im an apple user dontbe an isheep.
@@TheSakMusikbroke or greedy is crazy
Watching this was cray, eye opening actually. You did such a great job at capturing and stating your points. Great video.
The reason Apple and all other smartphone companies don't seem to be innovating anymore is rather simple, phones are a mature market. As you said, there's only so much you can shove into a glass slab before there's not much else that can be improved. Nowadays, it's mostly software that you will see updates in with very marginal upgrades to the hardware. Even cameras don't receive significant hardware upgrades because they're limited by size, they'll instead be improved through improvements in image processing. You shouldn't be worried about how these companies "don't innovate" because they're making drastic improvements in software, and people don't buy phones that much anymore because it's sort of like buying a car. You don't buy a car every year, but once you do buy a car after a few generations and revisions, you will see those improvements. That's what sort of market the iPhone is in now.
However, back on topic, you should be concerned with how much they are willing to push software and how much it will integrate and act as a parasite on our lives. These companies will of course seek to occupy and obtain as much information about you through software, and they will absolutely have all the information they could possibly ever want with VR sets.
Finally someone that understands that people don’t buy iPhones every year rather 5 or later
All good points. The Double tap gesture on the new Apple Watch is a good example of that. Combining blood flow patterns and what not in order to know what you’re doing with your fingers is just a glimpse of what’s coming. I welcome these technologies though, not that I have a choice 😅
Except we see godly innovation in the Android Market lol. How does Apple's boots taste like?
@@dylancounte1448 You can enjoy the content of this channel and still have your own thoughts. I agree with a lot of what Moon says, but I disagree with a lot of it too. Don’t put yourself or anybody into a box. I reject modern society and live a fully self sustainable life, make my own energy and food, yet I enjoy technology and create AR training simulators for the US department of defense.
Wow life is gonna be scary 😂 all of us being monitored yikes
Imagine a world where you could seamlessly swap out select phone parts like you could do your home/ office computer... now thats the dream repairability.
It’s called fairphone. look it up.
It is possible with other brands
Sounds good doesn't work There was an attempt (project Ara) but it never flew very far
@@alexeyklyshnikov7145 Project Ara was not just an "attempt". It was supposed to be the future of smartphones, google killed it because they were coming out with the pixel lineup of phones. It is more profitable to sell people a whole new phone then to only be able to sell individual parts hence why it was killed in favor of the pixel phone series, it does work its just nearly impossible to exist in a corporate environment.
Even if that’s true, the support of software updates will only get you so far…
Still using an Iphone SE 1st gen. 8 years later still the best phone I've owned.
Yep, i loved it also very much, but the 12 and especially 13 Mini made it pretty obsolete to be honest.
Im still using the 2016 SE, but its exclusively used as mp3 player (3,5mm jack, so nice!) and for jailbreak things. Replaced even recently the battery the 2nd time for at least 1-2 more years of usability, the first replacement battery was already at like 30-40% health and drained very fast.
My daily driver is the iPhone 12 Mini. Not much bigger, yet so much more potent than the old, nice SE. At first, especially the protruding lens bump was just horrible, but now knowing the camera bump of the iPhone 15, i began to love my 12 Mini more than before the iPhone 15.
That’s because you’re not supposed to be upgrading your phone every year. I’m on a 3 year upgrade cycle, and it works perfectly. Year 1 - Newest phone, Year 2 - Still pretty new, Year 3 - Getting a bit old might be worth an upgrade, Year 4 - New phone. You’re all just sucked into this idea of needing something new as soon as it comes out.
I still use my iPhone 6+. Battery finally went out 2 years ago, and I replaced it myself for 20 bucks. I like the slim design and rounded edges, and all the apps still work fine. Camera takes good pictures, and cellular/data transfers are good. Never felt the phone was "slow" Why change? Maybe when iPhone 16 comes out next year, I'll upgrade; then I'll have a 10-phone upgrade span.
Downgrade imo
This should be the benchmark of praise
It won't be 10 phones
I kept my 6S for so long, but the battery was going down when it was plugged in so I had to upgrade.
I have a 6s and I agree with everything you said except camera taking good pictures. In fact that's my sole reason behind the urge to upgrade, for years.
I love how it’s the norm that phones are over $1000 now.
Sarcasm, right?
its only in the US though. It cost over 1500$ or more in other countries
Steve Jobs said he wanted iPhones to cost $100
@@levelfuel3650 Bro that’s crazy. 1500$ for a iPhone 😢
You mean Samsungs?
I always like atypical solutions. Sth that stands out from the rest even if it's maybe a little less practical at first. Not only in smartphones but also elsewhere. Previously companies where really pushing different phones on the market like strange rotating smartfones or with 2nd sliding screen or keyboard. They were always searching for sth new. I really miss seeing those different designs. No the only innovative thing is felxible screen :/
I’m pretty sure everyone waits like three to five years to buy a new iPhone, and in those five to three years there’s a big difference between your old phone and the latest iPhone
Agree
Mobile phone technology has almost reach its peak level, this is why there’s only little improvements every year…and that’s why you want to upgrade every 3-5 years intervals to really see a major change.
Not true. The chips will continue to get faster. Higher refresh displays. Higher res speakers. Longer lasting battery life and health. Faster charging. Better camera.
There is much room for improvement.
@@kiavaxxaskew yea all we really need is higher battery life.
battery lives are TRASH to this day.
@@kiavaxxaskew It's kinda crazy though, because for people like me who dont game or do anything super intense, we just want to be able to watch HD video, and seamlessly multitask between apps. This always seems to work pretty well for the first year or so, then they all get slow like always. I wouldnt be surprised if there was more throttling going on than we know.
@@heyjeySigmabattery life+gpu+removable ssd.
In terms of technology , the cellphone that comes out in 2023 is basically something they could have put out 10 years earlier .
If its a great mobile phone as they always claimed everytime they release a new one, then it should have lasted at least 10 years. But nope, you need to get a new one 1-2 years later.
People crack me up going out and buying the newest IPhone without know a darn thing about it
It would be funny if it weren't so damn pathetic.
They still believe that owning an iPhone is some kind of a status symbol.
Fomo gets 99% of us
@@deadnorth8648 Why??? Did someone install faulty software in humans?
@@deadnorth8648
I am the 1% I guess.
I use a phone for 5-6 years then upgrade and the upgrade is very noticeable. 🤷🏽♂️
I've two iPhone that I carry around. One 8+ and one 14+. Except for the bigger screen I actually prefer the 8+. I much prefer the Touch ID over Face ID. I can just put my finger on the sensor to unlock without having to look at the phone and get distracted or have to take my phone out of my pocket. Other function wise, I really couldn't feel there is a big difference between the two.
Your videos are always so good man. Editing, graphics, script, and topics are always on point! 👍🏼
Agreed.
Has anyone ever considered that the shape and features of "smartphones", regardless of it being Apple's, has reached it's peak? And there's absolutely nothing wrong with that. Future iterations DO NOT necessarily have to be drastically different in size/shape than its predecessors.
YES
Which means you don’t need to pay more and more for less and less upgrades when you were getting more upgrades for fewer more bucks back in the days
@@mahee96 I’m not making a commercial argument, only a logical one
@@fnanfne I too am speaking about practicality because if Android phones can provide upto 120 watts safe fast charging, 6000+ mah (in 6.7 inch smartphones), USB 3 transfer speeds for phones from 3-5 years ago, what is the cost of increase in price adding upto consumer’s advantage?
I do understand apple uses high grade components and hence the high price point, but less or not much upgrade but $200+ increases in price doesn’t make much sense.
I have used Androids in the past and moved to Iphone for iOS SW development but to be frank my 5 year old mobile having 4000mah used to last longer than 3200mah in my current iphone 14 pro
I am power user/SW engg, so my usage might be bit heavy.
I too support that sometimes break through changes aren’t required and sustaining is better but increase in price for minor upgrade is basically like saying we raised prices due to inflation 😅
@@mahee96 But the thing is, we aren't paying more and more. The price of the "pro" iPhones has stayed at $999 since 2017. Considering inflation, the price has in fact reduced over time.
So we definitely reached peak smartphone- and honestly I think thats fine. Eg. Laptops also have small performance updates each year. I think this is an opportunity to put less resources into the iphone and more into new products
No. Iphone 15 for 800$ is still only on 60hz!! Apple is just looting people at that price with such ridiculously low specs
When comes to specification, I think smartphone company is going backwards.
They keep removing stuff like external memory card, headphone jack and stuck from punch hole.
I think 2018-2019 is the best year of smartphone for low price while having best features
Thank god removing headphone jacks isnt a norm. Apple is fucking insane.
@@four-en-tee It is a norm tho? Most phones dont have headphone jacks anymore lol
Thatd be nice, always gotta get those shareholders ever increasing profits.
As someone who uses the iPhone as one of my main cameras for my videos, the small incremental upgrades to the cameras video performance from generation to generation have been a great boost to me personally as for the rest of the iPhone, since the iPhone 11, its basically been the same since.
Yep thats because iphone 11 and iphone 14 is just refinement period. 15 was the a small leap in camera because of the other phones are already offering this, so I strongly believe the 8th or 9th are the best phones within each generation as refinement is over and now its the next technology advancement. However Apple and other phone companies know this so they arent adding 8-9 years of support on a phone because hardly anyone would switch from their phones.
@@robertceron9056 yeah but at least app support for older phones is stronger on android I can run 2023 apps on an android phone made in 2016.
You should use android cameras, then iphone later. Android right now has top of the line cameras, but apple only has 48 mp vs samsung's 200 mp. Ik mp isnt the only factor, but apple has to pretend like they made a change every year by gradually incrementing the camera performance, so just stick with android right now. But don't if you don't have the budget
@@smaransure2234Apple kills Samsung in video but for photos it’s a toss up but there’s definitely times where Samsung wins
@Kingcommaalex no it doesn't. Samsung has better video and photos (better audio better Zoom better ultra wide better stabilization better quality better portrait) etc
I have been using a motorola g5 for the past eight years. it still runs very well, it isnt slow, and i dont plan on changing it anytime soon
I can't use an iPhone. it gives me severe nausea . THe way this guy sucks up to apple is also nauseating.
Social media made everything boring. Nothing is a surprise anymore since we all know and have the same information in pretty much real time. Can’t even show anyone a video without them saying that they’ve already seen it
That’s always the end result of social conformity.
So true
We need a 30 day worldwide total shutdown of the internet to break the trance. With one exception for videos of Ranmaru the Shiba.
The internet, you f00l. Social media is using your real identity on social platforms, which is why CZcams and Reddit aren't really social media. Facebook, Instagram, snapchat, and tiktok are, because you post your real identity or photos of you and videos of you
@@pyropulseIXXI "Social media refers to the means of interactions among people in which they create, share, and/or exchange information and ideas in virtual communities and networks."
It has nothing to do with using your real identity or not you idiot. People use fake identity on snapchat, tiktok, instagram, etc, and people use real identity and post videos of themselves on CZcams and reddit. There is no difference between these sites. They are all social media
What did you expect? Apple changed its leadership from innovator to sales specialist. More streamlined corporate supply focused, less breakthrough innovation rebels. Apple's shareholders are quite happy.
innovation? selling same chinese iphone with new name apple sucks no wonder why apple users are poor ans why apple is rich because exist stupid people like you belive in apple 😅
Absolutely true. I worked for them in retail and the change after Jobs died was TRULY felt. They wanted to become this "luxury brand" when they released the Apple Watch. They really used to be cool, their system was great and very open in the 2000's. Now it's just idiot proof stuff for the mass market for a ridiculous price.
@@NiGHTSaturnI dunno. I have the Hermès Series 8, and it’s pretty luxury. Love the leather band and faces. It looks like a legit watch.
It worked for them last 10 years or so, though
I don't mean it's good for consumer or anything. Just saying that it's not surprising and was very predictable.
If not release of Apple Silicon in MacBooks, Apple had all the chances to repeat the history of Nokia with it's Symbian OS.
If people keep buying, the vicious cycle will never end.@@NiGHTSaturn
Watching this on my iphone 11 pro here. Still going strong. Why upgrade if this phone still works well?
What gets me the most is the fact that Apple still makes a phone of at least 800 dollars with a 60Hz display…..like, that’s criminal in this day and age
But it's next product! Aren't you excited for next product? Not buying product and getting excited for next product is the wrong side of history and frankly transfatphobic. Yikes!
Exactly!!! The entry level Samsung A14 offers a 1080+ 90Hz display at 6.7 inches and it costs 200 bucks. What gives???
Imo if someone is going to buy a 60hz iphone they should just save $500 and buy a iphone xs
@@dnegel9546 Even the ultra low entry level Samsung 04e has a 60Hz screen at HD+ and runs Android 13 with upgradeability. That's just a USD129 device. What is Apple thinking?
@@SaigonBritThey're thinking that a very very very very large majority dont care about hz nor do they even know what 120hz means and hence the 15 will sell like butter anyways
I've never believed Apple cares for the environment. When they took away chargers and made boxes smaller, I knew it was more profit for them and more expenses for us and that's why I refuse to make them richer 👍
What would you do with Apple's products to make them more environment friendly?
@@Simboissstop producing them
They removed something that was far more impactful on earth then that
Can you guess what it was?
No phones have this capability anymore either but... you heard in this video Europe will make it mandatory again in the future.
In all essence it actually was the best feature a phone could have but it was basically gone last high end mid range phone to have this feature before it went the way of the dinosaurs was actually the LG v20 I would know because I have the phone.. actually two of them haha but I don't use them anymore using an xperia
I cant guess. What is this feature? Edit: i guess you are talking about user replacable batteries. All galaxy xcover models has them. So does many other phones. And the specs of the latest xcover is on par with flagship models 2-3 years ago, and the price? ; about 1/3 of flagship models. Oh: and it's got the good'ol 3,5mm earphone jack as well.
@@suprlite
Removable batteries
With a spare you are not tied down to a cable or wireless charging which also uses a cable. You can charge the spare and go anywhere you want
You can charge your spare battery at any speed you want really remember slower charging prolongs your battery life
Since you are charging your spare battery outside your phone there will never be heat buildup inside your phone thus prolonging your phone which is great for environment
If you charge your spare battery at a slower charge you prolong the battery life span and won't need another battery for longer period of time instead of just charging fast constantly on one battery.
Since the phone uses removable it is already half opened basically so it makes it waaaay easier to open up. I could upon up my LGv20 is basically 4 minutes you just unscrew 20 philips head screws and that's it
There are special phone cases you can buy for phones with removable batteries which lets you use much bigger battteries
On my LGv20 I use two 8600mah batteries
Which is way more then the current max we already have reached which is 6000mah on these newer phones released.
So you could have a bigger battery on a smaller sized screen phone.
The LGv20 is only 5.7 inches in length and packs a 8600mah battery.
I could actually get a case that would have enabled me to use a whopping 10,000mah battery and have the phone still be small just more fatter.
These are all the advantages you get with removable battery. Essential the fastest charging method to any phone period especially if you get two spare batteries you will never have to be tethered to any cable I assure you
I currently am using the Xpreria 5 ll and this phone doesn't have a removable battery which I dearly dearly miss from my LGv20 I used before the Xperia.
I love the Xperia 5 ll just greatly miss having a removable battery
It is indeed the best feature off all time on any phone and greatly greatly helps the environment
There's only so much resources out there we have to reserve it as much as possible and phones not having removable batteries is the worst thing on a smartphone you can have
Plus we now can easily back everything up on the internet... so really... do we need IP68 rating phones anymore?
I been using phones for over 20 years and have yet to drop my phone in any water.
Either way let people decide if they want a IP68 rated phone or a phone with a removable battery
I already know which version of phone I'll get LOL removable battery phone all day every day until I day
It's not just the planned obsolescence, but the active combating against reparability. When they don't want you repairing your device but instead to buy a new one, it makes all "we've done this for the environment" claim ring hollow.
Oh, are you talking about the only company in the industry with a self-repair program. That's about to be expanded to Europe. Or are you referring to the company that totally redesigned iPhone Pro line and regular line to make them easier to repair. Either follow the tech or retire that silly reparability nonsense.
@@bruxi78230 iPhone and easier to repair, terms that do not belong together. I'll believe it only when I see it.
Great video. I went back from an iPhone 15 Pro to an iPhone 12 Pro and could not be happier. It really showed me how gimmicky phones have become.
Somebody needs to make a supercut of all these iPhone presentations because it’s always the same dialogue 😅
I liked how every brand was doing something different
every brand still does to an extent, it's just that now every other brand is "good enough" at what a given brand used to specialize in. there isn't really any one thing that can be greatly improved upon. the displays on just about every phone are nearing the point where the human eye will barely even notice upgrades, cameras are good enough for the average person, and most flagships, with the exception of the pixel phones, are powerful enough to be able to do just about anything you need them to. every core feature is as good as it realistically needs to be.
I've got an iPhone 8 which was second hand when I got it. I'm looking to get a new iPhone because mine is just about done. Is it worth buying the 15 or can I get away with an earlier model/something cheaper? What do you think would be worth it?
moon, you are crazy! it was released earlier this day and you already have a 12 minute video essay on it! high quality too! stock footage, audio, everything!
Lol, if you think this is high quality.....
It's shiny editing, with 30 seconds of research. Most of the content is his standard "everything sucks, people are too poor to afford stuff". Never mind 10% of the country has over a million in assets, and the top 20% drive most spending, he focuses on how terrible everything is because it's just a way to cater to his audience by complaining about everything.
New phones that Apple releases are purely for the chip and the camera. The new chip is amazing. Console level graphics (ps3-ps4), hardware ray tracing, Nvidia level dlss, just to name a few new features. He obviously doesn't understand chips because this is huge. Every apple chip is a cutting edge marvel. But ya, if you don't push your phone to the limit, of course it doesn't feel like an upgrade. It's like giving your grandma an rtx 4090. Of course she won't notice.
@@Tential1 Man i'm just impressed it's $899 and not over $1200
@@Tential1Be gone Apple bot
@@swamp1138Why should he be gone? Say something useful because you’re acting like a bot.
Lolol you’re miserable and confused?
I previously upgraded from iPhone 8 to iPhone 13 Pro. This was a nice step up.
That's a good 5 year gap
@@joelupetz5157 At the same pace I’ll be upgrading to iPhone 18 Pro next time :-)
Going from an XR to 14 pro last year was a pretty nice leap for me, definitely felt like a premium upgrade
Yeah I’ve realised the best thing to do it just to get air a while
I went from a iPhone 7 Plus to a iPhone 12 and it was awesome and then jumped up to a 14 and it felt like nothing changed and I was so disappointed
@@Gutterrepublic get the phone ever 5 generations lol
9:17
The first smartphone with a dual-camera setup was the HTC M8, released in March 2014
I don't know, after hearing from you, I can only imagine and hope now that things would go in the right direction for all of us.
Apple is gearing up for the Vision Pro to be the big product they innovate on and I predict it will be a huge product in 2-3 years. If you think about it, the Smart Phone really doesn't have much more that can be added or improved upon, except incremental speed boosts, camera upgrades, and software upgrades. The only thing they have yet to do is make a foldable iPhone, but that may never happen. We will see.
The future is them putting technology in us.
That's easy to say now (regarding Iphone), until there's something done on the Iphone that we havent yet thought we "needed"
Bread boxes.
Edit: plastic bags and preservatives replaced the bread box the same as smart phones have replaced the idea of an office environment.
You do not need a workforce to clock in when everything is done on an app - except for physical manufacturing which is done where, again - and you do not need a physical business when you can do all of the things done in an office on an ap (by outsourcing to a business that supports your middle man position) and so the only thing phones have to fear is middle men in fighting.
They could do something to improve it. Here is an idea, make all new iphone phones come with internet included (not added as a plan) and workable from all over the world. That is a feature that, if implemented (somehow), will make me buy an iphone and finally switch from android.
@@jorgebernier5dYou think Apple is willing yo make that bet on creating the network infrastructure and pray that the revenue from the phone only will make them profits?
Is there something else I'm missing?
To be fair, I don't know why people expect every phone to be a massive change. Sure, if you go from the iPhone 13, to the 14, and then the 15, the changes are incremental, but if you go from the iPhone 6 to the iPhone 15, the changes are pretty noticeable.
I am currently on a iphone 11 nd plan to get a iphone 15 but I underestand why some say iphone is at the end of time for innovation
Does a 6 still run well?
Not really, What are these changes? thats 9 years difference, in this lapse of time we have seen many more drastic changes in other companies. Apple has been one of the worst at improving things since Steve died.
@@TornadoOfSouls777I went from a 6s to a 13 mini and it was an absolute staggering difference in performance
Battery isn’t any better but it’s nice having a good camera
Kinda expect decent change since they keep costing 800 minimum.
You forgot that their phones are not repairable. They are the only ones allowed to fix it. If you replace parts with other genuine parts the phone bricks itself. Same for their 3500$ glasses
This is the iphone that would make me happy.
-iphone ultra with not just titanium frame but sapphire glass
-fingerprint scanner either on the back or under the screen of the phone.
-options to either have a dynamic island, under the screen camera, or smaller notch than theyve made so far
-a button on the back of the phone
-and no more sim card issues (not sure if thats fixed yet)
Nah, novelty will wear off sooner then you expect. Human nature.
6:57 the cameraman: 😁📸
If you think that Moon has told you all the bad things the iPhone has...just try to repair one,it's a nightmare fuel. It's a miracle that Apple didn't screw up with the Firmware Restoration and in fact,it's the most easy phone to restore compare to the Android's phone,that's the most easy thing you can do with the iPhone.
there's only one name (on CZcams) that matters when it comes to phone (and laptop!) repair: Louis Rossman.
I worked with that for 5-6 years, I've seen every trick in the book they have applied to their devices.
It's absolutely disgusting, and everyone else simply followed suit. Because nobody even tried to stop Apple to begin with. Only company in the EU to have 1 year warranty on their products, instead of the EU standard of 2 years for all electronics which every single other tech or electronic device company, has had to adhere to. But not Apple. They can circumvent continental laws and surpass national laws in 50 countries. How? Why? Corruption. That's the only answer.
@@ScottAllenFinancehe’s one of the best electronic repairers in the world. All the employees in his shop are also skilled too :3
when you say “restore” do you mean lay down a new OS onto a device or retrieve data from a backup?
(coming from someone not familiar with phone repair)
The repairing has become so bad, even the professionals at apple fail to repair the phones you give them and end up damaging them instead
I love my 15. But I’m also upgrading from a XR. I do agree w all the sentiments to this vid, this is just a somewhat newly polished 14, which was once just a newly polished 13
Awesome video, feels like a mini-documentary production!!
Someone needs to make a petition to stop CZcams from censoring moons content because this stuff is amazing and should be way more wide spread.
Or censoring ANY creator!
@@therichard27except pedophiles, they can be censored and arrested
It's high quality propaganda
His content is super mediocre. But what have they censored?
@@Frank72364ya... I've got to say, this recent stuff sucked. This video is a huge stretch. Doesn't talk about the neural engine improvement, hardware ray tracing, apple version of dlss, etc. Apple added tons of upgrades, and at the end of the day, it's like expecting each new Nvidia gpu to change your life. It doesn't.... It just adds more performance.... Just like you'd expect.
Back in early 2007 when Apple announced the iPhone I was super skeptical about their claim that it would be a game changer. Although not the first, Apple pushed smartphone innovation forward. But there's only so much you can do when with a device that has matured. Year-to-year improvements are more incremental now.
That last sentence is so true. It's why there's no point in upgrading every year. 3 years and it feels like a true upgrade y'know? It doesn't help that if Samsung or Apple skipped annual releases then their stock would plummet.
damn , i was just born in 2007
I can't believe you're 16 now... I'm serious. I can't believe it........ And just in 2 years you'll be 18 which is even more unbelievable. And then look at iPhone 17 maybe and compare it to first iPhone. Does it worth?...@@xevon66
Thanks for this message. At last, someone who understands. You can't innovate indefinitely. But imagine the engineers working at Apple who need their paycheck to feed their families.
@@octolockg5059Luckily nobody forces anyone to buy a new phone every year. I just upgraded from 4+ years old OnePlus 7 Pro and the upgrade felt pretty significant. No more lag, better camera, better battery life, a lot brighter screen. Everything I could hope for.
What else do people expect to have in a phone to call it innovative? Only thing I want is under display front camera so I can finally get a new phone with no notch or anything like that, but until then, what's wrong with incremental upgrades? Like people are fast to criticize the manufacturers and the industry as a whole, but never come up with any half-decent idea on how to upgrade the devices.
My phone that Im using was made available in 2013. I still have it. And still working pretty good.
got the iphone 15 pro last week. super slow and glitching all the time, have to go to apple to get it fixed.
I feel so lucky to have lived in a world where the blackberry and iPhone changed the world. So lucky I got to see that. Good times. It was exciting to see the innovations from all other manufacturers after the iPhone was announced.
I am more excited to see new android phones than apple. It's the same every year. The gap between android and iOS is decreasing every years, there will be a day where apple loses its competitive advantage.
@@kelsormjaquandon’t be a crybaby.
You hate environmentalists and yet you’re talking about living change and innovation? You are such a liar.
@@kaito7132 I'd say the gap is increasing - but it's Android phones that are ahead of Apple :)
@@kaito7132Apple does not have a competitive advantage. IPhone is literally worse on paper and in terms of functionality. Imagine buying a flagship tier phone and having Apple tell you what you're allowed to do with it...
I like how they used to say that iPhones are the perfect size and you shouldn't buy a bigger phone. Eventually they just gave into making bigger phones
The perfect size imo was from 4-5, 6 and later models are fucking stupid large to the point that you'd need a purse to keep your phone
Tbh I would not mind a modern smartphone with the size of the 4 or 5 with little to no bezels, thickness is whatever imo because thin phones just snap so easily
@@tydshiin5783 I have a 6 inch phone and it fits in my hand fine
Edit: take away one word in that sentence and it sounds weird
@@Special_Agent_Frank_Horrigandifferent people have different hands
@@RawbLV ok but did not inquire
@@RawbLV I have considerably large hands and the 6&7 are too fucking big for me to hold comfortably
14 was too heavy to even hold for long periods plus damn impossible to use with one hand
I've been an Android user since I got rid of my iPhone 5 in 2014. My carrier was having a sale on the new iPhone 15 Pro, so I decided to get one because I've have been having some minor hardware issues with my S20 FE so I decided to get it. It was extremely sluggish, would stop loading webpages on 5G at totally random times, and the cameras suck.
One of the best phones I ever owned was a Motorola flip phone years ago. The charge in the battery seemed to last forever and having a backup battery I could replace myself was a great idea.
I don’t think innovations dead I just don’t think there’s much more they can do to improve modern phones. I think they pretty much reach their pinnacle.
Ya lol, but not for long.
Yes but their gonna release a new phone every single year even if there is no reason to do so
I bet the next innovation will be something like 3D hologram abilities. However I'm not in the loop so someone smarter than me, feel free to tell me this already exists 😂
@@LetsSingTheDoomSong That would be awesome. I’m not sure how they would do that without a vertical glass to project it on.
@@Nikkerman yeah but no ones forcing anyone to buy the latest iPhone, to me all this just seems like people finding excuses to be angry at something
My iPhone X is now 6 years old and I could keep it for even longer. So I'd say their products actually last a long time. Same goes for my MacBook Pro. It is now 8 years old and still in good condition and fast enough for office work and surfing.
My X is great. New battery, new glass back. Look and feels modern. Need to upgrade though because no more support for it
One point about the batteries they use for the iPhone 15 is they use lithium-cobalt because it is more energy dense than lithium-phosphate which makes sense in the context of a phone since you typically want it to be light weight while having a large battery capacity.
Lithium-phosphate are more sustainable and better than the environment but are less energy dense. On the bright side though they are more thermally stable (kind of irrelavent for the temp a phone operates at) and have a longer cycle life meaning they can be charged and discharged more often over its lifetime. This is potentially another reason they don't want to use this because it would give less incentive to change to a new phone since the battery will degrade less over time.
And on another note they're not actually the driving force for the large increase of price of cobalt over the recent years, automobiles are since they need much larger batteries. For some reason despite thermal stability, safety and cycle life being more important for the application of an automobile they still opt in for lithium-cobalt batteries instead (with a bit of nickel).
I went from 7 plus, XR, 11 Pro max, 13 Pro Max, 15 pro max. The switch from 13 pro max to 15 pro max was barely a difference. Besides the island and supposedly longer battery life I’m not noticing the same amount of difference then from the 11 Pro Max to 13 Pro Max. Or the 7 plus to XR. Good phones regardless but I’d say waiting every 2-3 years between an upgrade is probably the best not only financially but Technicality standpoint.
I’m watching this video on my iPhone 8 Plus without any problems. The screen is big enough and it’s capable of taking pictures with pretty good quality.
Same here
iphone 8 plus is great. absolutely cannot compare to a 6 plus@@andryxxx
There is still hardware innovation but only for the chips. I still think the new 3nm chip is insane with its 19 billion transistors in the chip. That is unfathomable. The ability to process AAA console games on an iPhone is really mindblowing. They are now focusing on efficiency I guess according to Moore’s law. Moore’s law suggests that computational progress will become significantly faster, smaller, and more efficient over time.
Yup, just because it looks the same doesn’t mean it is the same. But we are getting close to the limits of silicone based chips and we will need to transition in order to keep Moore’s law going.
Why do you need it when iphone 11 still runs every apps smoothly
@@fruitwindpeople care about battery life. The more efficient the chip, the better the battery life, as it uses less battery power to perform tasks.
Are you talking about emulation still dere is no working ps3 or xbox 360 emulator right now only ps2 emulator works perfect
@@fruitwind you say no one cares because you cant feel it. Without chips your phone wont even run....
Great writing and research per usual
Steve job didn’t die for this
Something to think about is the MicroSD card slot, notice how today barely any phones above the low-end ones have MicroSD slots. That's because for under $100 you can have double the storage instead of buying another phone or expensive cloud storage. And it's not saving internal space either, because Sony can fit BOTH a 3.5 mm jack AND a MicroSD slot in their compact Xperia 1 FLAGSHIPS WITH a 5000 mAH battery which is huge
I love the Xperia for literally being the actual Pro line of phones without calling themselves Pro, because the amount of control you get from them is actually good compared to apple where they say fuck you and robs you of your cash for "premium" materials as pro
@@tydshiin5783 Apple's Pro just gets you features most if not all other Android flagships have like the 120 Hz and USB-C 3 which are still missing from the normal 15 ☠️
Good point. I've argued with so many people who go "well nobody uses it anymore, you don't need it!" How can they be against OPTIONS. LIterally just options. You pay just as much as previous years for a flagship "premium phone" with less features.
@@grancoast idk how apple f boys can call themselves tech savvy when they don't realise they're on outdated hardware on cutting edge prices
And the bestcthing from (most) Sony and Samsung phones?
Not made in China.
I’ve had an iPhone since the iPhone 7 when it came out. I generally get a phone every couple years, and I don’t get the newest one. I jumped to the iPhone XS when the 11 was out because I broke my 7, and the XS to the 13 mini a couple months ago because my XS broke as well. But doing the jump between phones like this makes the improvements more noticeable. The XS didn’t have 4k 60 fps recording like my 13 mini has, as well as the hardware improvements, games just play so much better than my old phone. People shouldn’t get a new phone every year, I think ideally people should have a phone for at least 5 years or until it breaks beyond point of repair (repairing phones should be easier and cheaper tho)
That’s actually how it’s supposed to work. In my technician course we were advised that mobile devices are recommended to be upgraded every two to three years and computers every four to five years.
So are u just a clumsy person? Iphone has no quality? My Oneplus 5T is almost 5 years.
Ahahaha I have exactly the same phone change story. From 7 to XS to 13 mini, still wouldn’t mind using 7 or XS if they hadn’t have broken down, however I do love my 13 mini, it nicely fits in my hand and is so convenient to use, just like the good old iPhone 5s
@@fynkozari9271 I should’ve had a case on my iPhone 7 and there was nothing I could’ve done about the XS. I was in a scooter accident and a fell directly on the phone in my back pocket when I started tumbling to the ground
100% agree. I’ve been doing the same. Went from 4 to 7. Then from 7 to 11. Both times because the phones just reached the end of their lives. This definitely made the feature improvements much more noticeable. Still have my 11 and gonna wait another year or two before I upgrade again. Totally agree that repairs a d battery replacement needs to become normal.
Thank you for the info
I once won an iPhone 11 in a contest. I've been using it till today and I love it. I'll never change it. There's no real point of buying a new iPhone after the 11, since the X isn't getting any new upgrades. I know my 11 will be next to be executed, but that's fine. Apple, honestly, isn't (and never will be) what it was before.
The phone will still get security updates for years to come. I just got my IPHONE 12 Pro Max battery replaced the other day by Apple. No reason to upgrade that phones for a few more years.
I still have the iPhone 7. Works great, battery still lasts all day. what's the point of getting a new phone if the one you have still works fine?
Im in possession of an Iphone SE I want to replace it because of the screen size and quality.
Wish I could say the same tho, if I barely use it, yes, its gonna last a day, but once I use spotify, yt, etc... the thing goes fast lol...
@@15wwe15weird. I stream lossless audio on my iphone 7 and the battery still lasts very long. I never do system updates, though, I think that's the key.
Man, great video, i really feel smarter after watching it!
So, if you made it through the whole video, it's probably because you were subconsciously enjoying those apple commercials.
Back in 05-06, I was watching G4tv, specifically Attack of the Show. The people were talking about smartphones and the host asked this guy what he thought the future of smartphones would look like. This guy said that the touch screen was the last big innovation when it comes to phones. He continued by saying something like, here on out we won't see physical changes anymore, but just upgrades to software. Here we are almost 20 years later and the phone I am typing this out on looks just like the smartphones back then, just a little bigger and more camera lenses.
And? A smartphone has a purpose and it fills that perfectly; it doesn't need 'constant innovations.' An innovation is going from old cellphones to TOUCH SCREEN; adding an extra button to an old cellphone is not innovation, so why do people consider multiple lenses an 'innovation?'
Apple truely revolutionize how they charge over 1K for a phone that basically looked the same for 6 years
What more is there to change? Smartphones have reached their peak, there's no advancing or innovation from here. MR headsets like the Vision Pro are the future.
Theyve charged the same price, less than 1k, for multiple years. Not raising prices unlike other phone companies
Only with brand new phones. You can get an xs max for 3-400.
tell me how samsung, oppo, xiaomi etc etc all have phones $1,000 and over pls
@@TheStopwatchGodExactly, this is what people need to realise 🤦♂️
I hated Apple when they didn’t add a smart Siri to their line
One word, actually, a few.
“Action button.”
“Dynamic island on all iPhone models.”
You don’t really see it, but they work a lot on the internals. Not only that, but they’ve been working hard on the iOS quite a bit in the recent years, starting with iOS 16.
I have an iPhone 11 and don't feel the need to upgrade it any time soon. The 11 is a workhorse with enough storage and most of the features you get with todays phones, and if you take the case off and clean it up, you can really see the craftsmanship behind it and it will feel like a new phone again. Unless something breaks or apple decided to implement software to slow it down there really is no need for me to switch. I could see myself waiting until the iPhone 16 or 17 before I change to the newest model because the iPhones just work (until they don't lol)
i have an 11 too, im scared theyll force an update on us to make us upgrade after it glitches our phone out lol
@@idriveastationwagon1534the battery will just continue to get “worse.” I’ve had my 13 for a year, used smart charging the whole time, and already lost 10% “battery health.” Whatever that means. While the battery is still really good it doesn’t last all day like it used too. Planned obsolescence. Oh but at least I can get 800 bucks towards my 15 when I trade in my 13 🤡
I'm the same. I have IP11 and I won't change until 16 or 17
I just upgraded from the 11 to the 14. Trust me when I say the 14 is so much better. My 11 started slowing down and the battery life started draining fast. I got my 11 in 2018-2019 and it was a well needed upgrade
I sold my 14 Pro the other day and am now using my sisters old iPhone 11 until the 15 Pro arrives, trust me, it's a huge difference between the 11 and newer iPhones
6:39 Bruh. If there's NO carbon in the atmosphere we all die. Because the plants are all dead.
Thank you for being cognizant with this Report. To shed a real light on what's happening in the Congo for people to have their toys. What's happening to the people and children. And showing the insidious purposeful blight of which they have to live.
I am still usi9ng a 6s+ and it serves me well. But I am out of storage unfortunately.
“Give us $800”
- “why?”
“Because”
- “Ok”
While Samsung's out there releasing the fifth generation of their cutting-edge foldables, the most hyped Apple event this year is them adding USB-C to the iPhone15. AND its got a 60hz display in an era where even $200 phones have 90/120Hz displays. Pretty telling tbh.
Lol... and the USB-C was mandated by EU.... but it figures that Apple, the manipulative superficial mancihld that it is, spins it as "what an innovation." If a person did this stuff, they'd be an antisocial narcissistic wreck. Personally I think Apple has jumped the shark, and they're entering their ultimate decline. God, I hope so.
And the iPhone 15's USB c port is USB 2.0. As well as their charging cables they ship in the box.
The foldable phone is an extreme gimmick
Most people don't use or need a folding phone,
@@edwinwandera6993who is most people!?, samsung foldables sells are increasing with every generation
I just can't believe people are only calling out Apple for this, this is a thing with nearly all new phones. When they first came out, they were huge upgrades each year but got smaller and smaller each year with upgrades, it's because they can't just innovate some new groundbreaking features each year. You are saying it's for profit but in reality, it's because they simply can't make upgrades every single year. Samsung, Google, LG, and many more companies are just the same, hardly anything new every year. Stop only blaming Apple for this, but don't blame any of the companies, it's just that they can't give you something new and groundbreaking each year. That's just the reality of new tech these days.
This channel deserves more than 300k
Way more
apple should release iphones like once every 2-3 years where they actually have time to do major changes because back then they didn’t have to update stuff like ipads, air pods, watches, etc and an iphone every year is ridiculous at this point
I can understand the discontentment regarding lack of progress with each model, seeing it as boring. However, I remember back 10 years when performance in smartphones blistered year by year and made phones rapidly obsolete. My iPhone 4, at 4 years of age, was begging for death. My current phone, the 11 Pro, at 4 years of age is still kicking. The stagnation meant I don't need to upgrade to a newer phone any time soon and I fortunately see that being recognised among my peers.
I understand the US is very addicted to consumption, but that goes beyond iPhones or smartphones in general, so there are clearly two sides to this story.
still have IPhone X, no reason for upgrade until it dies.
That’s a very valid point. Never thought of it like this
That was me as well. I only upgraded my iPhone 8 after the lightning cable would literally fall off the charge port and the battery wouldn't even last half a day at full charge, the cost to repair it would exceed the cost of selling it.
I then bought an iPhone 11 in 2022 and have no plans to change it in the near future, precisely because the jump in performance is so minimal
Which Rogan episode did you grab the cobalt mine clip from?
My LGV40 thinq finally kicked the bucket yesterday and watching on my back up pixel 2XL and if I do upgrade it definitely won't be an apple,I just need a devent phone for decent photos
9:27 HTC was the one to first implement multiple cameras in their smartphones. There's a repeated misconception that Apple is an innovator when there has been a plethora of evidence that the harp on design choices that other companies had done previous, but are overlooked simply because it wasn't on the Iphone yet.
I miss my HTC Evo 3D. It was dumb and gimmicky but I kinda feel like we need more dumb and gimmicky stuff these days. Everything is sterile and boring
they were YEARS behnd nokia back in the day.
putting two cameras is not 'innovation,' and who fcking cares
Just like apple wasn't the first touchscreen phone
@@elvangulley3210 Not the first one, but the first capacitive display that supported multi touch gestures.
That’s why I went from upgrading every year, to now getting a new iPhone every 4-5 years
I'm still happy with my iPhone 6.
@@jamesryan7684 where a you live?
Same here, upgraded last year and before that it was 2018, before that 2014. A few of my friends always get excited and text in our group chat during every apple event lol, it’s absolute peak cringe “consoomer” culture
@@arthurgamerpro6585 Southern Ontario, why?
@@jamesryan7684bro is coping