What is our responsibility to ourselves and others? | J. Krishnamurti
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Ojai 1985 - Question #5 from Question and Answer Meeting #2
'What is our responsibility to ourselves and others?'
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He was the sharpest object on our planet. There was no way of outsmarting him.
And yet, he didn't rely on smarts. The truth he knew was outside of mind.
And this was his message ... This is what he traveled the earth to say. Intellect cannot grasp it.
Why would you try to outsmart him? If at first you can understand him and his message that is a big feat already no
Object wtf
The man is always talking about the highest form of love as a starting point.... and love scares all because it promises to destroy everything other than itself.... but actually unites
This man is the most enlightened being in his time and did not want to be labeled as one. A true master ☹️
your comment is sort of ironic :)
Rightly put
Rarely he laughs... And he laugh like child.... Very pure human being..
Rarely he laughs? He makes jokes all the time I see most of them are over your head because they are over the audience all the time
Ego (I,me,my,mine) is responsible for all the sorrows and pains in the world.
Ego identifies itself or the thinker as separate form its thoughts. Therefore taking no responsibility for its destructive nature
There is no separation between the ego and you. You are the ego, such as you are the tree and society. Your honest observation of what the ego is makes the ego disappear and makes the human act.
12:40 When K said tears, the baby starts crying!!! wonder !!!
Do you hear all the birds all the time?
I am fortunate to visit his house in Ojai valley last year. Tremendous joy 🌹👌
When I was there at Pine cottage I felt the presence of his brother. Nityanda, towards the back. I didn't say anything about it to anyone. Strange. Also the tree in front where he had an awakening
that's precisely he was against
what a beautiful human being!
Gianpaulo Francesco Yes. He was. A truly loving and caring human being. Sadly, all these years later and humans have not gone through the radical transformstion he envisioned. The division, conflict, suffering and sorrow continues. Still slaves and not free. JK tried to free us. He did his best. I'll have to quote Aldous Huxley on this " humans will begin to love their own slavery". Although he was part of the elite power structure, he was correct. We are too far gone for radical change. Our society will have to degrade to the point that it collapes.
Bari Ruberg true but all is not lost. Change begins with oneself and just one can impact the lives of many around them.
Francesco .. yes, he was a beautiful human being. And Bari ... we cannot wait for 'humans' to go through radical transformation, because it's not about 'humans'. It is not even about society. Krishnamurti has examined the idea of society and it's interesting to read. "Society" (whatever that is) may be degrading but we don't have to. We ARE society.
perhaps i do see how you mean, Bari Ruberg, about having "society" to degrade to the point that it collapses..., if looking at seemingly those many "people" nowadays who must believe and think they are leaders... such as "here and there" in academic education and politics..., companies... etc. etc., that in those "influential positions" there are those who seem not at all to understand nor ever truly question the nature of human being.... and seem to not feel themselves humanity..... I agree that, because of this, sometimes it is very hard to keep the courage. Glad videos of Jiddu Krishnamurti are here to learn for ourselves in togetherness..., not living in enmity like sometimes seem to do all those supposed "others" who seem to not even recognise they are living in conflict... and cause and maintain division, are in denial of love and seem to even promote "the dark" etc. etc.., taking their ignorance for granted..., think they are so important 'at the cost of all and everything' else... Glad Krishnamurti is feeling like a gentle good wise friend and glad the timeless content of his dialogues etc. are available through the videos, giving clarity and hope in these (according to me) 'dark times'.... but these 'dark times' we must face, not run away, not become anything inwardly...., knowing on detachment without being ever isolated... etc. etc. , looking at the root of thought.... etc. etc. And always include love. *
musicminded64 The one thing that I have struggled with in regards to K's teachings is that inwardly one can resolve all internal conflicts but not outwardly. Outwardly the division still continues so inwardly the individual cannot ever be completely free because we are all connected. As K says we are in this together. So I am glad K' teaching are still available and there are still those like you, me and others who commented that still care about humanity can pass this information on to others. As I remember K once saying we have to scream this message from the mountain top if we truly care. Although, it makes me happy that I am not the only one that listened to K's message. Complete and total FREEDOM what is there out there that is more important than this? Unfortunately we will never hear any of the leaders or politicians talk about this they are to motivated by money. It will take a radical transformation of consciousness one mind/brain at a time at least a change in enough minds to reach the tipping point :) Thanks for the reply.
He is a man par excellence. Outstanding intelligence. Thank you sir for sharing this deep profound intelligence with the mankind. I am forever grateful to you sir.
He was in tears. Pure love was the culprit, and it was beautiful💜💛
To measure his height, one has to sink to one's own depth. The question is, are we willing to let go of this rope of Ego? Your fall will catch the flight, and gravity will keep you afloat.
Knowledge has no place in relationship..Compassion for one another comes to be when we see the implications of having an image about oneself and one another. If there is an image in relationship then there actually is no relationship. There is only a relationship between images which are not factual. Responsibility implies the negation of knowledge in relationship being our ideas, opinions, beliefs, an so on. Only then can we meet each other with deliberation.
Finally i got diamond in CZcams...
The thing is, when importance of individual responsibility assumes
and gives measure of value to some person. And this person is forced to keep it's personality for having this responsibility (some achievement, conviction or lifetime goal), here we have conflict of person and world to which one is responsible, but world is nothing outside of ourselves. ❤ Love is the only way, so call off the search and may be you wake up to see your best friend who is yourself.
That speech of him is a description of today world ....
Thinker is the thought, cuz without thought there is no thinker....
True.responsibility enters when there is division,seperation from self & others.else it defines do unto others as you unto urself.profound & hard truth.
we are as one with no barriers, ie nationality, is the message, and that is freedom.
It's a gift to the human who listen and understand to his speech .
He is sooo sweet in this🤗
Freedom!!!
This is just as relevant now as in the past!
This is relevant as long as humans exist on planet earth.
J.K.'s talks always insightful, encourages individual thinking but one humanity...
Thank you so much!
Beautiful
How focused ,like a pin point ... No words
Interesting life. To be singled out as the chosen one. Your climax as a driver for a new religious path is personally dissolving the whole endeavour.
Wow he was 90 years here
Master mind in lecture
He never sat in cross-legged position on chair
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K.......... ❤️
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There seems to be something related to allowing love to be the motivating factor to our responsibility
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Dear Krishnamurti Foundation,
Can you please provide the transcript for this clip?
jkrishnamurti.org/content/2nd-question-answer-meeting-45
@@KFoundation thank you for the response🙏
Is it possible to live without any nationality , any identification?
I wonder if the questioner meant something else.
Maybe he meant what our goal in life has to be.
Are we obligated to find out how to be a better person which will not create suffering for our fellow man and the world.
Is that our responsibility?
I understand intellectually that the observer is the observed. But my understanding dues not transform into living without division.
I am still conflicted.
Maybe you can remember as a child you were pure perception - did not really care about logic and thinkinking - living in the moment - just observing? Can we get back to this as adults? By dismantling our false thoughts?
when right thinking happens , thoughts are placed in the correct level and slavery to them stops . that freedom has ability to respond adequately .
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