By degrading the World as „crazy“, you are just revealing your ableist nature. It’s like being a racist and insulting the world with the N-World. „Man, that world is so n***a! And it gets more n***ah!“
@@ISPOVEDNICNOD Putin said few years ago - if his country is destroyed - he will take everyone down with him. His exact word is what is the point of the world without Russia ?. Was he lying ?
Spoke to a mate of mine from Poland. He mentioned that since the start of the Ukraine war, Poland’s military has expanded a lot. The number of people looking to join the military/reserves pretty much doubled. Volunteers, not conscripts mind you. If the Article 5 button gets pushed, Russia will have to deal with some very motivated Poles.
@@wolfswinkel8906 the actual start of the war, when putin incited and funded rebellion in donbass while he invaded and annexed crimea. more victims on putins head.
The Russian process of guilt admission: 1.) No we didn't do that. Absurd. 2.) You did that to yourselves. Shameful. 3.) We don't know who did that. But you deserve it. 4.) We did that... But we didn't have any malicious intent. 5.) We did that... And it was on purpose.
@@julianpetkov8320 Probably because there are 24/7 NATO AWAK planes monitoring the airspace, documenting any launch and anything entering nearby the air space. Combined with an array of satellites they have real time maps of anything in Ukraine airspace. They can easily determine where this missile was launched from, whether or not they tell us is a different story.
My grandmother's family comes from that eastern area of Poland. East to the UNESCO-listed Renaissance "ideal town" of Zamość. I've been visiting family graves at a cemetery not that far away from there every year for All Saints Day with my parents. I am currently visiting my parents in my hometown 160 km west to the village where the missiles hit and killed 2 Polish farmers. I'm 28 and I've lived all my life in peace and prosperity. The only stories about war and bombings I would hear from my great-grandmother who lived through World War 2. This part of Europe has been peaceful for over 80 years. I can't believe that 160 km from my hometown, within the borders of my country, people have been killed by rockets used in a war. It feels unreal. I've dissociated so heavily that I can't even feel any emotions. I don't want to even try to imagine what might happen next.
I know how you feel I remember the killing I saw in Bosnia as a child, I'll never forget me and my mum in a bus they pulled out the Bosnian men and shot them, I was 3 and remember that vividly and it has scared me for life....I pray for ukraine and Poland.
Poland is a beautiful country but has suffered a lot of pain throughout it's history but in many ways that has many Poland stronger love from Ireland 🇮🇪❤️🇵🇱
Exactly. Years ago, when Russian bandit attacked Georgia, late polish president Lech Kaczynski warned the West: "today Georgia, tomorrow Ukraine, then my country, and then the rest of the Europe". But the EU cynical losers wouldn't listen. The business with Russia was soooo good.... unfortunately Poland always pays the price. Once, American diplomat asked John Paul II why on earth God put Poland in the middle of Europe, and the Pope answered: because no other nation would endure it. We'll prevail ✌🇵🇱
And soon he's probably going to put it to his head, in an old Soviet bunker in Siberia somewhere. He probably has every ruble he's stolen from his people, in gold, platinum, and silver, stacked up in room after room, down there. ...Ya know, Siberia....where ALL of Russia's gold is mined? When this is over, Siberia will be a VERY WEALTHY nation, with Russia NOWHERE in it's name. It will be a pleasure to call Siberia neighbor to Canada, and the United States. We share many similar cultures.
condolences to poland and many thanks to DW for informative, level-headed coverage. all ur correspondents strike me as smart, caring, committed folks 💛💙
Just imagine Ukraine with decades old Soviet defense system can take down 50% Russian missiles but Poland being a modern NATO country can't stop decades old S-300 missiles. Suspicious! Very much Suspicious.
His name is colonel Bragin. Oh, no he is a commander of the Ukrainian anti-aircraft regiment of AFU which shot down Polish tractor instead of Russian missile lol
Easier said than done. Going to take the Russian citizens to overthrow their commander as they have done every single time in the past. This war will end with Putin's "unalive". Russians don't even know their own past. This is why they are doomed to repeat it.
Here’s my question… are there any legitimate targets near the Poland border, INSIDE Ukraine, that could remotely explain why Russia would fire rockets in that vicinity in the first place? If not, this indicates either a very provocative intention, or an absolutely unimaginable degree of carelessness for a nation with a supposedly modern military.
The coordinates of the farm is 50°28'28"N 23055'39"E. Using Google Maps, i did a rough measurement around the groups of buildings in the immediate area, and it totaled roughly 0.3km /0.12 mi - surrounded by 23.5 km/14.6mi open fields. If half this area belong to the "groups of houses/buildings" beyond the fields, you are left with 0.3km of buildings in a 11.75km area. If you randomly strike this area blindfolded, you have about ~2.5% (1/40) chance to hit a building... If 2 such rockets hit, then it kinda goes without saying that they were aimed at this area. Could of course have been "human error", but i can not see how this could have been 2 "rogue" rockets that crashed in a random area...
They probably already have, but want to square it away diplomatically before releasing info to the news agencies. Nato needs time to figure out how not to make this spark a nato russia direct conflict.
Poland already confirmed it was russia missiles. I guess the best thing what can happen would be if Nato closes the airspace around Poland for like xx kilometers (which would include ukraine airspace) Then again a russian respond would follow.. which would probably not very special, since they are way weaker than NATO.
19:25 Not sure of her background, but Jade is very level headed, fact based, and down to earth. Someone worth to listen to. Hope the DW guy can learn something from her how to be a news presenter/journalist. Give us news, not your personal agenda and drama. We can tell the difference.
These missiles are high accuracy warheads. They took out all power from lviv. Hitting this small polish village was a very calculated move. Everyone was taking about the kherson retreat, Russia just let us know - the war is far from being done.
The ultimate catch-22 situation. NATO failing to respond will look weak, vulnerable and gutless. NATO responding threatens further escalation that could be catastrophic. Personally, I think that we (NATO) must respond since President's Biden statement of "we will defend every inch of NATO territory".
Closing airspace from Poland to at least Dnipro river is a common sense defensive move and not "escalation". Unless NATO doesn't care about own citizens.
Ah yes, everything is catch-22, speaking of... and Switzerland got bombed by the Americans in ww2, look it up: bombing in Oberstrass According to your logic, Switzerland should have retaliated?
How?bro!!this is not the 1918 or 1945!!if the collective West attacks Russia with weapons directly there will be a retaliation!!mostly nuclear retaliation!!Is Nato willing to let over a billion people to die because of 2 people dead in Poland??
If it was accidental, odds are it would have landed in a field somewhere, odds of it landing actually in a town/village is low, like throwing darts at a map.
"Lack of precision" 100+km??? Do you know very strange thing: NATO didn't notice any rocket coming to Poland on AWACS plane while they have constant monitoring and can see all missiles in that area. If they only can blame Russia for anything they do it. But as we know Pentagon made statement about lack of proofs against Russia in this case. Wait for investigation until you write bs.
Kind of hysterical reporting, frankly. If it was a Russian weapon they'll still need to determine if it was intentional, which won't be too easy. I think they'll almost certainly have to assume it was an accident.
@@user-ck4kq8tw3x sure bud most of their missiles left are shot from jets that can't be flown without getting shot and ships that can't sail without getting sunk
For Art. 5 to trigger, the incident would have to constitute an "armed attack." Does an accidental incident satisfy? Even if it does, Art 5 does not require armed force, but action as deemed necessary to restore and maintain security. The Article leaves plenty of room to maneuver. However, politically, there will be pressure by some for armed force.
The issue with just ignoring it because Russia might claim it’s an accident is that not doing ANYTHING means Russia can just continue to "accidentally" bomb NATO.
@@FlorianWendelborn Perhaps we have resources to determine whether it is accidental regardless of what Russia claims. Perhaps, as a democracy, we let people decide if a global war is justified based on the facts. Perhaps all this requires assessment and cool heads instead of blind "let us do something to not look weak" reasoning.
@@MrCounsel I’m obviously not saying the only reasonable response is to directly send nukes. There’s tons of things NATO could’ve done if this turned out to be Russia, including sending more and/or more powerful weapons to Ukraine. Step 1 isn’t and shouldn’t be starting WW3.
@@magdasienkiewicz8546 za co dziękujesz🤔 przecież to był zwykły nieszczęśliwy wypadek , Zwykła butla z gazem wybuchła, a pizdzielce juz sieją propagandę, a cała rzesza pelikanòw łyka wszystko co się im wciśnie, 😂
That could have been done on purpose Russia is always testing the United States and their allies what they will do. They're always entering our airspace to see how far we let them go and how long it takes us to get up there it's all done on purpose. They collect all that information.
Totally agree! Fabulous, seemingly very thoughtful & accurate answers. Of course I think it's hard for those of us not current experts of Russia & G20 etc. to know what to make of alliance member positions. Nonetheless, thanks for commenting re expert Jade here, & I found her thoughts tremendously useful.
They will want to review all the AWAC and satellite tracking of projectiles in that area. to verify its launch source and trajectory for any posable mid-air collisions / trajectory changes that would cause the projectile/s to go into Poland. and then the crash site forensics to verify it manufacture origin and type.
I agree. More facts are needed because as far as we know, those rockets could have come from anywhere. This will still cause a NATO response even if its only a mild one for enhanced anti missile defence and detection in key areas.
During the last interview the DW host and the speaker began discussing whether the G20 countries would accept territorial concessions for Russia to keep part of Ukrainian territory. There should be zero concessions to Russia and that should be firmly stated to Russia by all countries in NATO and beyond. Under no circumstances should Russia be allowed to profit from it's violent aggression. No peace until Russia removes itself or is driven from every inch of Ukraine.
I know we can't be sure at this point, but it does seem like a provocation after the G20 summit...it doesn't look like a coincidence, to hit a grain producer farm, looks like a clear signal
Russia has hereby demanded at least the delivery of Western long-range (200+ miles) weapon systems to Ukraine. Mining all important Russian ports, of course purely accidental and unintentional, would now be appropriate, accidentally of course.
Well there's only one country firing missiles westward. There may not be an article 5 enactment but there's nothing stopping Poland from retaliating on Russia itself. At the least Putin can count on losing a significant naval asset capable of firing a long range cruise missile.
Well the US military can't confirm that the missile has been shot by Russia so that collaborates Russia saying that they didn't shoot those. If it was indeed shot by Russia, the USA military would have confirmed it.
Love and respect Poland so much, Rest In Peace to those 2 Polish people that lost their lives in the chaos of this war. Also USA, NATO, Germany, UK, France should help Poland with securing their border around Belarus/Ukraine with medium-long range SAM’s so that they could not only shoot down ones coming into their territory but also maybe pick up some before they land near western Ukraine like Lyiv. 🇺🇦 🇵🇱 🇺🇸
Well, this didn't age very well, did it? How funny that you've spent half an hour talking what if this missile was russian not once mentioning what if it wasn't?
The answer should be very simple. A) We give Ukraine long range missiles. B) We warn Russia that next "accident" on NATO territory will trigger Article 5.
Funny that you people think that Ukraine is just missing some weapons to completely conquer Russia. Wake up. Every weapon sent to Ukraine will make Russia's response harsher.
@@werwo5229 Ukraine has NEVER expressed a desire to "conquer" Russia, yes they can throw them OUT of all Ukrainian territories, with better offence weapons and air defense systems to protect Ukrainian cites.
Must say so much for poland anti ait defence on 9 month of conflict around their borders. Now i know why NATO strategy would be to loose Baltic states and half of the Poland while they plan for some action.
Whether this was by accident, and it was not meant to have landed in Poland, as it was deflected by Ukraine’s air defence, or it was a deliberate attack on Ukrainian infrastructure that was to close to the border and it ended up going over the border, It is still Russia’s responsibility to not let this happen in the first place, Based on the fact that non of the Russian missiles are actually hitting their so-called military targets in Ukraine, Russia shouldn’t be targeting any infrastructure near the Ukrainian & Polish border, to guarantee that this does not happen, being fully aware of the consequences of what could happen if it does by NATO, Now if it was a missile that was intercepted by Ukraine’s air defences, and remnants of either Russia’s or Ukraine’s missile has strayed over the border, NATO could say, ok we are fully aware that this is what happen and we knew it could happen, by mistake, as to not let it happen again, but if this happens a second time, then we will take it as a deliberate attack on a NATO country, Or they could say that we need to take more measures to protect Poland’s borders by giving Russia an ultimatum, Not target any of Ukraine’s infrastructure within, as for example, an 80 kilometres/50 miles distance of the Polish and Ukrainian border, Any missiles that are found to be aimed at targets within this area, will be classed as a threat towards Poland, 🤔
The entire world is actually watching the news on the Russian missile hitting a Polish village. The entire world is actually showing their condolences to the people of Poland. 🇵🇱🙏✝️🗡️⚔️🪖🇵🇱
Something exploded in Eastern Europe. Must be Russian fault. People have ****ed brains by American/German controlled media. How people know that was Russian rocket not Ukrainian? Are you 100% sure?
The missile hitting Poland was fired by the Ukranains using the old Russian made missiles they possessed. Really need to stop relying too much on false western media reports.
One missile accidently hitting the wrong country is absurdly unlikely. TWO missiles hitting the wrong country within a very short distance of each other is statistically impossible. They were aimed.
Wow, Its crazy how fast the Zelensky crew rushed out to blame Russia when it was their own systems that have more likely done the damage and killed Polish citizens.
Russia is trying to take land from a neighbor. They are now sending basicly civilians with guns to the front line. Over 1000 soldiers a day die because of this. Every day. And it is getting worse. So, since their infantry is basically cannon fodder and fertilizer they shoot missiles at civilian targets and infrastructure. By definition this is a war crime. They either aimed really bad or a missile got shot up and flew off course. Doesn't matter, there should not be missiles flying. That is what happened and it is time for a response.
You know your army has some poor aim when you miss by an entire country...
HAHAHA! Bad aim, ineptitude? Same difference lol!
The Ukrainian anti-aircraft regiments are the best. They shoot with some heavy WW3 flavour.
This... just this... 🤣😂🤣
Haha
@counselthyself Been there and know what those parts look like, do you?
Everytime i think the world is crazy its gets more crazier.
untill rusia not exterminated this madness will continue
@@ISPOVEDNICNOD Yes, exactly!
The world is not crazy, only one person is crazy enough to mess up his own people and the rest of the world
By degrading the World as „crazy“, you are just revealing your ableist nature.
It’s like being a racist and insulting the world with the N-World. „Man, that world is so n***a! And it gets more n***ah!“
@@ISPOVEDNICNOD Putin said few years ago - if his country is destroyed - he will take everyone down with him.
His exact word is what is the point of the world without Russia ?.
Was he lying ?
Condolences from Romania 🇷🇴
Spoke to a mate of mine from Poland.
He mentioned that since the start of the Ukraine war, Poland’s military has expanded a lot. The number of people looking to join the military/reserves pretty much doubled. Volunteers, not conscripts mind you.
If the Article 5 button gets pushed, Russia will have to deal with some very motivated Poles.
Why in a hurry to be put into the meat grinder
Polish forces might be handy as cannon fodder to protect usa hegemony
If Article 5 gets pushed Russia will have more problems than it could ever hope for.
That will likely end badly for everyone
There are already thousands of polish troops getting killed in Kharkov.
@@aslampervez2294
What about Russian hegemony which is what this war is really all about?
Condolences to the families of those victims in Poland..🇬🇧
🕊😪
Condolences to you for being British. Sucks...
Condolences to the people of Donbass- victims for 14 years!
@@wolfswinkel8906 the actual start of the war, when putin incited and funded rebellion in donbass while he invaded and annexed crimea. more victims on putins head.
@@wolfswinkel8906 Yes, condolences to all the Ukrainians killed in Donbas by Russians since 2014.
The Russian process of guilt admission:
1.) No we didn't do that. Absurd.
2.) You did that to yourselves. Shameful.
3.) We don't know who did that. But you deserve it.
4.) We did that... But we didn't have any malicious intent.
5.) We did that... And it was on purpose.
1) Denazification and demilitarisation of Poland
There's a "gopnik" version preceding the war:
1) It wasn't us
2) It was us but it doesn't count
3) It was us but you ain't gonna do anything about it
The two-headed eagle is a suitable symbol for Russia. One head says no and the other one says yes.
Lol pretty accurate
@@julianpetkov8320 Probably because there are 24/7 NATO AWAK planes monitoring the airspace, documenting any launch and anything entering nearby the air space. Combined with an array of satellites they have real time maps of anything in Ukraine airspace.
They can easily determine where this missile was launched from, whether or not they tell us is a different story.
My condolences to the families of those Polish Farmers 🇵🇱 🇬🇧
they really fee your condolences, who are you btw?
Condolences to the Polish Nation. Keep strong. You always supported us, you are the best. You don't deserve this
Even the Russian missiles are trying to escape
Yes even the Nukes will try to escape and land on Nato countries
Just like usa from Afghanistan
@@tibarobert1172 yes
@@utkarshdubey5393 and Soviet Union.
🤣
My grandmother's family comes from that eastern area of Poland. East to the UNESCO-listed Renaissance "ideal town" of Zamość. I've been visiting family graves at a cemetery not that far away from there every year for All Saints Day with my parents. I am currently visiting my parents in my hometown 160 km west to the village where the missiles hit and killed 2 Polish farmers. I'm 28 and I've lived all my life in peace and prosperity. The only stories about war and bombings I would hear from my great-grandmother who lived through World War 2. This part of Europe has been peaceful for over 80 years. I can't believe that 160 km from my hometown, within the borders of my country, people have been killed by rockets used in a war. It feels unreal. I've dissociated so heavily that I can't even feel any emotions. I don't want to even try to imagine what might happen next.
My family is from Poznan. Much love and peace to you and your family 💜
I know how you feel I remember the killing I saw in Bosnia as a child, I'll never forget me and my mum in a bus they pulled out the Bosnian men and shot them, I was 3 and remember that vividly and it has scared me for life....I pray for ukraine and Poland.
My paternal grandfather was born in Warsaw.
From half a world away, I see the news of this war and ponder whether the Russians are a civilized people
My family is in Przemysl also near the border.
I am so concerned, and feel for everyone there😢🙏
Poland is a beautiful country but has suffered a lot of pain throughout it's history but in many ways that has many Poland stronger love from Ireland 🇮🇪❤️🇵🇱
I can only assume Russia will say that Poland attacked themselves
Lots of lies..lies..everywhere..media lies..telling lavrov sick..Putin dying.. Jejejeje news lies ppl make sick..it’s a disease..of lies..
NATO needs to announce: We will now have to give Ukraine those long range weapon systems they've been asking for. Just to keep Poland safe.
Its all bs, nasty people behind this snd its surely not Russia
Check Jake Broe's YT channel and watch his yesterday's video, he has explained why longe range rockets (ATACMS) are useless for Ukraine at the moment.
That looks like it is more than an inch or centimeter. Where are the guys that vow to "defend every inch of NATO territory "? All bark and no bite.
NATO can keep itself safe without Ukraine
They are not allowed to cross going to Russia
Some folks in Reddit are watching Polish TV and claiming Article 4 is in play and they are consulting other NATO members,
Article 4 is automatic because it involves the investigation. Article 5 is supposed to be as well.
HOW many US troops have been stationed to Poland and Romania??????
@@inmyopinion6836 not nearly enough it seems. Do not worry though, that is changing.
@John Grey I am Sure Russia will
Admit it just like they Admitted to
Helping Trump getting Elected. 🤣
@@Homeschoolsw6 Will NATO Announce it on
TV before they Start Responding ? 🤷♀️
More than prayers, we need air defence systems, aircrafts, ammuniton and weapons. From Poland with love.
My condolences to the two Polish families
Pete from England. 🙏🙏🙏
that soul's you will hunt you! this is your fault.. that missels comes from ukraine and specifically from border to border. you are not humans.
It was only a matter of when
Exactly. Years ago, when Russian bandit attacked Georgia, late polish president Lech Kaczynski warned the West: "today Georgia, tomorrow Ukraine, then my country, and then the rest of the Europe". But the EU cynical losers wouldn't listen. The business with Russia was soooo good.... unfortunately Poland always pays the price. Once, American diplomat asked John Paul II why on earth God put Poland in the middle of Europe, and the Pope answered: because no other nation would endure it. We'll prevail ✌🇵🇱
Been predicted for a long time.
@@barbarabal8922 lol go ahead and prevail
sadly, I agree. How else are the governments going to afford the world situation?
@@barbarabal8922 and he later was killed on plane by russians
The only time old man Putin isn’t shooting himself in the foot, is when he’s reloading the gun
:))))
this is NOT my true laugh tho :(
And soon he's probably going to put it to his head, in an old Soviet bunker in Siberia somewhere. He probably has every ruble he's stolen from his people, in gold, platinum, and silver, stacked up in room after room, down there. ...Ya know, Siberia....where ALL of Russia's gold is mined?
When this is over, Siberia will be a VERY WEALTHY nation, with Russia NOWHERE in it's name. It will be a pleasure to call Siberia neighbor to Canada, and the United States. We share many similar cultures.
Say whatever you want dork, Putin is coming to NATO now lol
Tell us about old men in charge.
Condolences to the two families in Poland . God bless & protect you all. From Australia. 🙏🙏🙏🙏
condolences to poland and many thanks to DW for informative, level-headed coverage. all ur correspondents strike me as smart, caring, committed folks 💛💙
Accidental strikes are very much important to see their so called article 5 bluff came crashing down. More strikes should be done.
When they are reporting a lie? It was a false flag! Smart? Caring? Committed to lies! Your people indeed.
Came from Ukraine not Russia
Condolences to 2 Polish family from Canada 🇨🇦 😢 🙏
God bless Canada and I wish Justin Trud
Just imagine Ukraine with decades old Soviet defense system can take down 50% Russian missiles but Poland being a modern NATO country can't stop decades old S-300 missiles. Suspicious! Very much Suspicious.
Imagine being that guy who fk'd up the targeting.
His name is colonel Bragin. Oh, no he is a commander of the Ukrainian anti-aircraft regiment of AFU which shot down Polish tractor instead of Russian missile lol
@@Evrastrim 🤡
maybe they did it on purpose?
There's no such guy. This a direct order.
Doing it on purpose would be the dumbest thing ever. Even if Poland alone would join the War, it would be devastating to Russia.
This is a delicate issue, the way the media handles and reports it should be very delicate
Poland ❤️❤️❤️
God bless Poland
I think Russia just tested the water to see how NATO responses.
Exactly
I think Russia's greatest fear is having to face NATO.
Yes siir
@@federov100 NATO couldn't defeat primitive men with ak 47 how they could defeat Russian federation with 6700 nuclear weapon?
@@federov100 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣oh my word 🤣🤣🤣You are a very funny guy aren't you?
Ukraine people will love this news so much as they want this war to escalate rather than making peace .
So sad, my condolences for the Polish families and killed loved ones 🙏 RIP
Belarus citizens, you better wake up and stop Russia's aggression.
Russian hypersonic 🚀 r unstoppable.. S500 r the best 🚀 defense system..
@@marcusmiller9176 Lol
Easier said than done. Going to take the Russian citizens to overthrow their commander as they have done every single time in the past. This war will end with Putin's "unalive". Russians don't even know their own past. This is why they are doomed to repeat it.
Too late, Belarussian are so afraid of Putin, they won't dare do anything.
The truth 💪
Here’s my question… are there any legitimate targets near the Poland border, INSIDE Ukraine, that could remotely explain why Russia would fire rockets in that vicinity in the first place? If not, this indicates either a very provocative intention, or an absolutely unimaginable degree of carelessness for a nation with a supposedly modern military.
It doesn't matter.
Nah, russia is also firing a civilian(non-legitimate) targets...so this question is moot
The roads that supplies ukraine with western hardware comes to mind.
There is no legitimate target in Ukraine. Whole war is illegal. Well, for Russians, legitimate targets are everywhere.
I thought that, is it a grain mill or was it actually a stop off for supplies and munitions etc...
My condolences to the families of the victims 🇺🇸❤🇵🇱 this was uncalled for and unjust
And came from Ukraine not Russia
The coordinates of the farm is 50°28'28"N 23055'39"E. Using Google Maps, i did a rough measurement around the groups of buildings in the immediate area, and it totaled roughly 0.3km /0.12 mi - surrounded by 23.5 km/14.6mi open fields. If half this area belong to the "groups of houses/buildings" beyond the fields, you are left with 0.3km of buildings in a 11.75km area. If you randomly strike this area blindfolded, you have about ~2.5% (1/40) chance to hit a building... If 2 such rockets hit, then it kinda goes without saying that they were aimed at this area. Could of course have been "human error", but i can not see how this could have been 2 "rogue" rockets that crashed in a random area...
Radar and other satellite reconnaissance, AWACS in the area can be combined to confirm where these 2 missiles came from.
NATO needs to supply some very SERIOUS anti-aircraft missile systems and radar systems to Ukraine RIGHT NOW.
@@winfordnettles3292
Very late to this event (SMO).
They probably already have, but want to square it away diplomatically before releasing info to the news agencies. Nato needs time to figure out how not to make this spark a nato russia direct conflict.
Poland already confirmed it was russia missiles.
I guess the best thing what can happen would be if Nato closes the airspace around Poland for like xx kilometers (which would include ukraine airspace)
Then again a russian respond would follow.. which would probably not very special, since they are way weaker than NATO.
@@samysdefer
Link please?
Poor Poland man, always amongst the first to get hit.
Always acting as cannon fodder
19:25 Not sure of her background, but Jade is very level headed, fact based, and down to earth. Someone worth to listen to.
Hope the DW guy can learn something from her how to be a news presenter/journalist.
Give us news, not your personal agenda and drama. We can tell the difference.
Whole new meaning to "couldn't hit the broadside of an entire country"
So sorry for the polish people who died@! God protect us!!!🥺🥺🥺
I would prefer NATO soldiers and their advanced gear over god but yeah. We will be fine, except for those 2 unlucky victims and their relatives.
One battery Patriot launchers protects better than million prays
@@fffuuu Patriots are not effective.
@@fffuuu I couldn't have put it better myself. Anti-rocket systems are a must!
whats God gunna do?
Someone's going to find out what a precision strike looks like.🌻
Bla-bla-bla we’ll see
@@paymentpassport5850 African..... The continent that still has slavery and cuts of childrens arms, like you have a valid opinion.
Nothing will happen
@@lugardboy Oh look !!!! another NATO hater who has no grasp of cold war politics.
NATO is unable to say where the missile came from? I guess all of the satellites and radar stations were switched off at the time.
These missiles are high accuracy warheads. They took out all power from lviv. Hitting this small polish village was a very calculated move. Everyone was taking about the kherson retreat, Russia just let us know - the war is far from being done.
The ultimate catch-22 situation. NATO failing to respond will look weak, vulnerable and gutless. NATO responding threatens further escalation that could be catastrophic. Personally, I think that we (NATO) must respond since President's Biden statement of "we will defend every inch of NATO territory".
Finally we are going to have solution for population crisis and fossil fuel issues. Bye bye Europe and north America
SINK ONE OF HIS SHIPS
Closing airspace from Poland to at least Dnipro river is a common sense defensive move and not "escalation".
Unless NATO doesn't care about own citizens.
nato n poland will do nothing.
Ah yes, everything is catch-22, speaking of... and Switzerland got bombed by the Americans in ww2, look it up: bombing in Oberstrass
According to your logic, Switzerland should have retaliated?
Mistake or not they need to be punished.
Play with fire you get burned, literally!
agreed if you kill somone with a gun by mistake you still killed them and are accountable
In the beginning of the war Russia has been explicitly been warned for exactly this scenario. Still they kept firing missiles close to NATO border.
@@codycottreau8826
Alec Baldwin is guilty.
How?bro!!this is not the 1918 or 1945!!if the collective West attacks Russia with weapons directly there will be a retaliation!!mostly nuclear retaliation!!Is Nato willing to let over a billion people to die because of 2 people dead in Poland??
And should they be punished if it was a Ukrainian anti-aircraft S-300 rocket?
If it was accidental, odds are it would have landed in a field somewhere, odds of it landing actually in a town/village is low, like throwing darts at a map.
Low, but not zero. However, I suspect it will be a short investigation due to the amount of eyes in the sky aimed at Ukraine.
Men of culture know full well that the last few minutes of the video were the most important.
I hope Poland responds strongly. Missile launches are NOT accidental and Russia is responsible for everyone killed by their missiles.
Poland is Nato so it would be Nato respond.
Not just Poland, NATO!
NATO has to respond if it will ever be taken seriously in the future, if not, NATO is useless.
yeah and maybe trigger a nuclear war and wipe all of us. Can't wait for it to happen!!!
Thank god youre not in charge.
poland will do less than ukraine.........nothin.
With Russia's lack of precision weaponry, I'm somewhat surprised this hasn't happened before now...
Who told you that?
Bots and more bots
Well it kind of did but mostly with drones through.
"Lack of precision" 100+km??? Do you know very strange thing: NATO didn't notice any rocket coming to Poland on AWACS plane while they have constant monitoring and can see all missiles in that area. If they only can blame Russia for anything they do it. But as we know Pentagon made statement about lack of proofs against Russia in this case. Wait for investigation until you write bs.
Putin will use that as an excuse : " it's the fault of the US since I can't get precision guiding chips"
Kind of hysterical reporting, frankly. If it was a Russian weapon they'll still need to determine if it was intentional, which won't be too easy. I think they'll almost certainly have to assume it was an accident.
It was two cruise missiles, very accurate multi million dollar missiles. And not an accident for two hits on farm buildings, in the middle of nowhere.
We are not happy for what was going on Poland may the Lord protect the people of Poland
No Fly Zone over Ukraine right now😕
Russia don`t care much
@@user-ck4kq8tw3x sure bud most of their missiles left are shot from jets that can't be flown without getting shot and ships that can't sail without getting sunk
That would inevitably cause a war between NATO and Russia since direct force is the only way to enforce it.
More like nuclear winter for anyone who dares to enforce such a thing.
These are rockets and missiles. Not airplanes.
we should act on what we had said”every inch” of Nato
Six kilometers into Poland is way more than one inch !!
Time for a NO FLY ZONE!
Best act and get yourself over there do your bit 👍🏻
@counselthyself source?
@@user-hi7jk6fu3f There likely isn't one. The Russian bots have been all over tonight.
Turns out it was a Ukranian missile-not Russian.
The woman speaking at the end downplaying the strike on Poland like it was nothing is a disgrace to the victims
For Art. 5 to trigger, the incident would have to constitute an "armed attack." Does an accidental incident satisfy? Even if it does, Art 5 does not require armed force, but action as deemed necessary to restore and maintain security. The Article leaves plenty of room to maneuver. However, politically, there will be pressure by some for armed force.
The issue with just ignoring it because Russia might claim it’s an accident is that not doing ANYTHING means Russia can just continue to "accidentally" bomb NATO.
@@FlorianWendelborn Perhaps we have resources to determine whether it is accidental regardless of what Russia claims. Perhaps, as a democracy, we let people decide if a global war is justified based on the facts. Perhaps all this requires assessment and cool heads instead of blind "let us do something to not look weak" reasoning.
@@MrCounsel I’m obviously not saying the only reasonable response is to directly send nukes. There’s tons of things NATO could’ve done if this turned out to be Russia, including sending more and/or more powerful weapons to Ukraine. Step 1 isn’t and shouldn’t be starting WW3.
@@MrCounsel That being said, as far as I understand it seems very unlikely right now that this was actually Russia or at least intentionally done.
Prayers to Poland. 🙏🏻
thanke you
Prayers but no thoughts?? Tsk tsk.
Prayer is Not enough. Please Demand NATO to defend every inch of NATO Territory.
@@magdasienkiewicz8546 za co dziękujesz🤔 przecież to był zwykły nieszczęśliwy wypadek , Zwykła butla z gazem wybuchła, a pizdzielce juz sieją propagandę, a cała rzesza pelikanòw łyka wszystko co się im wciśnie, 😂
@@ankhafi ta tylko że jakoś ludzie którzy tam mieszkają mówią co innego więc co ma do tego PIS
Imagine if all news was treated with this much respect and restraint
Well not all news can cause World War III
That could have been done on purpose Russia is always testing the United States and their allies what they will do. They're always entering our airspace to see how far we let them go and how long it takes us to get up there it's all done on purpose. They collect all that information.
Well said
What about the zero accuracy? That should count for something.
It was Ukrainian
Could be an " over indulgence of vodka" thus unable to coordinate physical action caused this
Wow …Jade ..very well spoken … great interview like her points well said Jade
Totally agree! Fabulous, seemingly very thoughtful & accurate answers. Of course I think it's hard for those of us not current experts of Russia & G20 etc. to know what to make of alliance member positions. Nonetheless, thanks for commenting re expert Jade here, & I found her thoughts tremendously useful.
God bless Poland
God has blessed the world.. It’s time to judged the world now.
Karma!
But RIP to killed men
Its been fun. See you on the next server
Is that you, Elon? 😁
can't be worse than this one
@@alf3071 for fun we'll double gravity to nerf missiles
gg
Yea...because THIS deserves a gazillion likes.... uh huh.
The missile was a anti air missile fired by Ukraine, it was not from Russian side. That is what the US is claiming so it is obviuously a accident?
Poland...get ready & take care!
putin is out of his mind
@@davidnoelfranks1124 Putin should be in a mental hospital.
Russia could get leveled
@@robertjamesonmusic let's hope
They all are, they are terrorists
for more then 20 years already
They will want to review all the AWAC and satellite tracking of projectiles in that area. to verify its launch source and trajectory for any posable mid-air collisions / trajectory changes that would cause the projectile/s to go into Poland. and then the crash site forensics to verify it manufacture origin and type.
I agree. More facts are needed because as far as we know, those rockets could have come from anywhere. This will still cause a NATO response even if its only a mild one for enhanced anti missile defence and detection in key areas.
During the last interview the DW host and the speaker began discussing whether the G20 countries would accept territorial concessions for Russia to keep part of Ukrainian territory. There should be zero concessions to Russia and that should be firmly stated to Russia by all countries in NATO and beyond. Under no circumstances should Russia be allowed to profit from it's violent aggression.
No peace until Russia removes itself or is driven from every inch of Ukraine.
Heart breaking this is becoming to much smh😢
I can't believe this was accidental. RIP Angels. Go Ukraine!!! Philadelphia USA
Republicans are controlling the house, Viva Putin.
nato go off!!!
I know we can't be sure at this point, but it does seem like a provocation after the G20 summit...it doesn't look like a coincidence, to hit a grain producer farm, looks like a clear signal
The investigation into the missile remains, and tracking from AWACS will hopefully reveal origin
Now let's see if Nato got the balls to hit Russia 🇷🇺
Russia has hereby demanded at least the delivery of Western long-range (200+ miles) weapon systems to Ukraine.
Mining all important Russian ports, of course purely accidental and unintentional,
would now be appropriate, accidentally of course.
You guy's think this is a video game , wake up now , don't cry later..
@Boon2000 must be easy making that decision when ur a jobless worthless neet.
@@infinityhighway900 Russia’s pathetic soldiers can cry
Are u saying Russia is now deliberately targeting Polish fields and farms?? Oh yeah that makes .. "Those damn Polish fields, Russia's no.1 threat"
Are you all insane begging for WWIII? What's wrong with you? Are you that old that you don't need to fight but too young to remember WWII? Insane!
If so, why didn't NATO-defence intercept it? .. Just asking.
Russia, how can you miss an entire country?
Please..
Well there's only one country firing missiles westward.
There may not be an article 5 enactment but there's nothing stopping Poland from retaliating on Russia itself.
At the least Putin can count on losing a significant naval asset capable of firing a long range cruise missile.
poland will "respond" with scrambling a couple of F-16s. not much.
@@driver4011 😂😂
Well the US military can't confirm that the missile has been shot by Russia so that collaborates Russia saying that they didn't shoot those. If it was indeed shot by Russia, the USA military would have confirmed it.
Welcome to ww3 with nuclear weapons!
@@driver4011 they could just as easily give the weapons to Ukraine and have them spank the Russians
Love and respect Poland so much, Rest In Peace to those 2 Polish people that lost their lives in the chaos of this war. Also USA, NATO, Germany, UK, France should help Poland with securing their border around Belarus/Ukraine with medium-long range SAM’s so that they could not only shoot down ones coming into their territory but also maybe pick up some before they land near western Ukraine like Lyiv. 🇺🇦 🇵🇱 🇺🇸
so you want nuclear war... gotcha
@@rzee yes cuz it maybe the only way
@@jasonolson3133 trust me: you don't want nuclear war. You won't survive.
The Ukrainians killed those poles, now what are you going to say??
Germany and France? Might as well be asking Italy or Turkey! Good luck with those friends
Well, this didn't age very well, did it?
How funny that you've spent half an hour talking what if this missile was russian
not once mentioning what if it wasn't?
Kind of reminds me of how Woodrow Wilson & Winston Churchill had that 1 ocean liner cross into German Uboat filled waters
The moment of truth has arrived for NATO!
The truth could mean there will be send "better" weopans to ukraine.
Let's see if they got the ball's for...😅
He's a pattern wacko....
@@infinityhighway900 you can’t imagine the consequences if NATO joins
Now time has come for NATO to implement article 5 of the Treaty, and we will see whether the Alliance is real and effective.
Polish authorities are reporting it as Russian made missiles, not missiles fired by Russia. Ukraine operates Russian made missiles as well.
100%
soldiers russian: "Ups. I failed!"
This was really only a matter of time to happen.. Even if it was an accident, this is a very dangerous time we are in right now.
The answer should be very simple. A) We give Ukraine long range missiles. B) We warn Russia that next "accident" on NATO territory will trigger Article 5.
no more warnings russia has to go down now from dust to dust
Troll
Verify it's a Russian missile and then respond with missile strikes on Russian positions in Ukraine
Are you ready for a world war ?
no. NATO takes out the entire Crimea bridge n tells Putin one more missile n he will no longer have a navy.
I’d love to see Ukraine come across some ballistic missiles for an early Christmas gift from the US.
Ditto
We'll nuke USA if that's the case.
Funny that you people think that Ukraine is just missing some weapons to completely conquer Russia. Wake up. Every weapon sent to Ukraine will make Russia's response harsher.
@@werwo5229 a harsh retreat is the only harsh thing they are doing. Besides maybe not preparing their soldiers for a hard winter to come.
@@werwo5229 Ukraine has NEVER expressed a desire to "conquer" Russia, yes they can throw them OUT of all Ukrainian territories, with better offence weapons and air defense systems to protect Ukrainian cites.
Russia: No, no it was a mine leftover from WWII.
Condolence to the family
Accident of not, Nato NEED to respond.
We need a strong respond
nato will "respond" by doing nothing.
@@driver4011 theres 2 dead polisch people, dont forget
@@volkerhartnegg8211 needs be a lot more
Kindda hard to determine where is going to hit if you are using fire works technology back from the Soviet Union era.
Kinda hard your sophisticated air defense couldn't intercept a primitive missile as you claim
@Count Hermaeus wrong question, watch me
@DAILY INTERNET TRENDS какого хyя не в окопе, жuвотное?
Must say so much for poland anti ait defence on 9 month of conflict around their borders. Now i know why NATO strategy would be to loose Baltic states and half of the Poland while they plan for some action.
@@dailyinternettrends1180 Poland's defense system was made to stop real missiles not homemade fire works
Oops, missiles are Ukraine's.
You CAN Not rule out the fact that Ukraine could have fired the Russian missiles at Poland....
Poor Poland, always gets attacked.
Whether this was by accident, and it was not meant to have landed in Poland, as it was deflected by Ukraine’s air defence, or it was a deliberate attack on Ukrainian infrastructure that was to close to the border and it ended up going over the border,
It is still Russia’s responsibility to not let this happen in the first place,
Based on the fact that non of the Russian missiles are actually hitting their so-called military targets in Ukraine,
Russia shouldn’t be targeting any infrastructure near the Ukrainian & Polish border, to guarantee that this does not happen, being fully aware of the consequences of what could happen if it does by NATO,
Now if it was a missile that was intercepted by Ukraine’s air defences, and remnants of either Russia’s or Ukraine’s missile has strayed over the border,
NATO could say, ok we are fully aware that this is what happen and we knew it could happen, by mistake, as to not let it happen again, but if this happens a second time, then we will take it as a deliberate attack on a NATO country,
Or they could say that we need to take more measures to protect Poland’s borders by giving Russia an ultimatum,
Not target any of Ukraine’s infrastructure within, as for example, an 80 kilometres/50 miles distance of the Polish and Ukrainian border,
Any missiles that are found to be aimed at targets within this area, will be classed as a threat towards Poland,
🤔
UA electric grid is decimated, because those missiles always miss. 🤡
That would be a decend responds.
And would help ukraine as missles to far west would be deal with by poland.
@counselthyself ,
What reliable sources have confirmed this?
🤔
Seems reasonable to me. Right now correct information on what actually happened is the most important thing
Yeah, don't let another chance to Russia ultimatum granted
What happened to the American missile shield based in Poland??
I feel there’s a no fly zone in the works
The entire world is actually watching the news on the Russian missile hitting a Polish village. The entire world is actually showing their condolences to the people of Poland. 🇵🇱🙏✝️🗡️⚔️🪖🇵🇱
Something exploded in Eastern Europe. Must be Russian fault. People have ****ed brains by American/German controlled media. How people know that was Russian rocket not Ukrainian? Are you 100% sure?
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
The entire world is actually watching dumb JOCKER NATO N USA start DRAMA AGAIN WORLD PEACE WITHOUT EVIL NATO N USA
what 'entire world'? Joker.
@@wolfswinkel8906 He means "entire West"
Time to finally provide the ukrainians with the no fly zone they have asked for.
yes, that is what will likely happen I think.
🤣 *you have no idea what you are talking about Rambo* 🤡
oh so you want us In a war huh?
If NATO cant shoot a rocket on their territory, do you think they will do it in a foreign country?
@@davidmbikumbix5871 Russian bot
This is what concerns me, I have friends in Poland. my condolences to them I hope this war ends.
The missile hitting Poland was fired by the Ukranains using the old Russian made missiles they possessed. Really need to stop relying too much on false western media reports.
@@dal6984 yeah, likely the case.
One missile accidently hitting the wrong country is absurdly unlikely. TWO missiles hitting the wrong country within a very short distance of each other is statistically impossible. They were aimed.
Right. I think there was no any Russian missile in the area that Ukraine S300 were targeted to. Ukraine just wanted to provoke NATO to join the war.
All that we know for sure is that Sumi never ever gets her chance to say “thank you” or “ you are welcome” 🤣
summi??
What’s Sumi
You mean Sumo right ?? 🤣🤣
i wonder if someone will make a humanity end credit roll
credit for what?
It must be examinated. But if this was intentional...well NATO was created exactly for this eventuality.
Sober up.
For example, NATO made an accidental mistake and attacked and destroyed the Chinese embassy in Yugoslavia and killed 3 Chinese.
Wow, Its crazy how fast the Zelensky crew rushed out to blame Russia when it was their own systems that have more likely done the damage and killed Polish citizens.
It was Ukraine firing those missiles.
My Tuesday could not have gotten any worse. Everyone needs to keep calm and investigate what actually happened.
With nato being the ones investigating I can write the final report before nato even gets there to investigate !
Russia is trying to take land from a neighbor. They are now sending basicly civilians with guns to the front line. Over 1000 soldiers a day die because of this. Every day. And it is getting worse. So, since their infantry is basically cannon fodder and fertilizer they shoot missiles at civilian targets and infrastructure. By definition this is a war crime. They either aimed really bad or a missile got shot up and flew off course. Doesn't matter, there should not be missiles flying. That is what happened and it is time for a response.