Who Decides Which Emperors Are "The Great"?

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  • @hueylongdong347
    @hueylongdong347 Před rokem +249

    How could you forget the Great The Greatest - Magnus Maximus?

    • @flyingisaac2186
      @flyingisaac2186 Před rokem +19

      Leaders nowadays have none of that old time modesty. 😂Anyhoo his Chi-Rho coinage is striking enough.

    • @rursus8354
      @rursus8354 Před rokem +17

      Magnus Maximus Major, that is. In contradistinction to Magnus Maximus Minor.

    • @EasternRomanHistory
      @EasternRomanHistory Před rokem

      Well, Magnus Maximus is his name rather than an epithet. Just like someone called Cicero would not be called chickpea.

  • @bentilbury2002
    @bentilbury2002 Před rokem +112

    "So, Alexander - how did you come to be known as 'the Great'?
    "Why, I conquered half the world by the time I was in my thirties!"
    "Impressive. And you Valentinian?"
    "Umm... I punched a priest on the nose".

    • @saikrishnak8631
      @saikrishnak8631 Před rokem +6

      its not him who did that

    • @ReplyToMeIfUrRetarded
      @ReplyToMeIfUrRetarded Před 8 měsíci +2

      Valentinian did nothing wrong.

    • @thedemonhater7748
      @thedemonhater7748 Před 6 měsíci +4

      Considering that he was basically the last strong Western Emperor that presided over a functioning empire, he deserves some credit for

  • @NupidStigger
    @NupidStigger Před rokem +155

    Last time I was this early Julius caeser was still a senator

    • @augustuscaesar8287
      @augustuscaesar8287 Před rokem +3

      😢

    • @BTMEC_Kaustubh
      @BTMEC_Kaustubh Před rokem +5

      Las time I was this early, Gaius Julius Caesar was just the Pontifex Maximus.

    • @PadishahAnshan
      @PadishahAnshan Před rokem +7

      @@BTMEC_Kaustubh Amateurs! I was earlier than that, Julius Caesar was Queen of Bithynia.

    • @nicmagtaan1132
      @nicmagtaan1132 Před rokem

      He is actually still a senator right

  • @jaskrip
    @jaskrip Před rokem +198

    The only one's I'd be willing to call "The Great" are Justinian and especially Constantine. Also while obviously not an emperor, I think it's fair to remember that Pompey is very often called "Pompey The Great", and for good reason imo.

    • @Uncle_Fred
      @Uncle_Fred Před rokem +26

      Aurelian deserves that title.

    • @jaskrip
      @jaskrip Před rokem +112

      @@Uncle_Fred Honestly "Restorer of the World" is a way cooler title than "The Great"

    • @achaeanmapping4408
      @achaeanmapping4408 Před rokem +14

      ​@@Uncle_FredTrue, but Idk if there are any historical texts who refer to him as that and he already has the title of RESTORER OF THE WORLD

    • @MiguelDS5547
      @MiguelDS5547 Před rokem +7

      Constantine I would maybe say yes but not Justinian, he was overall a decent emperor but not great.

    • @iDeathMaximuMII
      @iDeathMaximuMII Před rokem +35

      @marcusaurelius5547 Decent? Aside from the Reconquest, he beautified the Capital, Artistic culture & reorganized Imperial administration to be more efficient, created the Law Code that is used in some form in many countries to this day. Rebuilt the Hagia Sophia & made it the biggest Church in the world. And the only reason that the Reconquest ended up the way it was, was due to 1. The Plague unexpectedly screwing the economy & the manpower needed, 2. As much as we love Belisarius, he was ordered by Justinian & the Senate to make peace with the Goths so they can deal with the Persians in the East, but he refused & caused the Ostrogoths to feel betrayed by his promise of becoming their Emperor of the West when Justinian had originally given the Ostrogoths a generous deal in which they kept Northern Italy where the Romans kept everything from the Po-River down. And by the time he finally left Italy, Antioch had already been brutally sacked by Khosrow, losing mountains of wealth. The Reconquest of Africa & the “first” Reconquest of Italy went very well until the Sack of Mediolanum due to infighting amongst Belisarius, Narses & John. Was he perfect? No but he definitely brought a lot more positives. What happened after his death is the blame of his successors, Justin II was entirely incompetent with his only credit being that he recovered a portion of the treasury to a decent amount, but Tiberius II was a money spending whore & Maurice, while good. Couldn’t understand that lowering soldiers pay would piss them off, even when they personally warned him. The constant wars meant that the treasury had no breathing room to recover

  • @Baamthe25th
    @Baamthe25th Před rokem +80

    The True Greats don't need to add any Title to their Name.
    That's why Napoleon is just Napoleon. That's why Cesar is just Cesar. And why Augustus is just Augustus. In fact, for the last two, their name became a Title other used and for a good reason

    • @nicbahtin4774
      @nicbahtin4774 Před rokem +13

      That's such a sigma thing to do. Should be on one of those sigma rule memes

    • @justinian-the-great
      @justinian-the-great Před rokem +35

      It isn't that these people are the "True Greats", it's just that they had unique and rare names, albeit there is a growing number of historians who are pushing for Napoleon to be nicknamed "the Great". That's why say Alexander the Great is "the Great", because Alexander was and still is such a common name. In fact the nickname "the Great" to Alexander was only added in the 2nd century BC by one Roman poem. Up until then he was called Alexander III because there were two other Alexanders on the Macedonian throne before him.

    • @dane1382
      @dane1382 Před rokem +3

      Augustus was originally a title, as was mentioned in the video. The other 2 are correct though, and you're right. Another I'd like to add is Charlemagne, and while "lemagne" means "the Great," his Frankish name, Karl, ended up becoming the word for king in several languages.

    • @Baamthe25th
      @Baamthe25th Před rokem +1

      ​@@dane1382 I maintain what I said
      The name may have meant something before, but the title Augustus is meaningfful because it was *His* name

    • @jaskrip
      @jaskrip Před rokem +3

      @@justinian-the-great Exactly, and on top of that, claiming that every person called The Great wasn't "truly great" is ridicolous.

  • @nenenindonu
    @nenenindonu Před rokem +22

    Idrk but I know who decides which emperors are "the Bulgarslayer" -Samuel

  • @youvebeengreeked
    @youvebeengreeked Před rokem +37

    Leonidas the BRAVE, Alexander the GREAT, Valentinian the WRATHFUL, Sigurd the MIGHTY...
    These are all pretty cool epithets, but this will forever be the coolest:
    AVRELIANVS, RESTITVTOR ORBIS... Aurelian, the Restorer of the World.

    • @causantinthescot
      @causantinthescot Před rokem +7

      He had the charisma of Julius Caesar and Alexander The Great, as financially astute as Augustus and Antonius Pius, as brave as Gallienus and Aurelian, as ruthless as Hadrian and Domitian, had the same vision as Diocletian and Probus, and as dutiful as Claudius I, Marcus Aurelius and Vespasian.
      He was no ordinary person. Like GALLIENVS, he was an envoy from heaven to save the Roman Empire and rebuilt it from ashes, while being merged with from greatest emperors before him. He was... FLAVIVS VALERIVS CONSTANTIVS GIGACHADIVS OPTIMVS MAXIMVS, THE GREATEST ROMAN EMPEROR EVER!!!
      PRAISE IESVS

  • @iDeathMaximuMII
    @iDeathMaximuMII Před rokem +52

    Leo I is also called “The Butcher” for his murders of Aspar & his family, although that was probably Zeno’s doing most likely. I do like Valentinian’s alternate name. “The Harsh” since he would throw people to his pet Bears & got angry at the littlest thing. I think getting pissed & punching a Pagan Temple servant just for sprinkling a tiny bit of water on him is just petty & dumb. I still really like him as an Emperor though

    • @iDeathMaximuMII
      @iDeathMaximuMII Před rokem +10

      @ZoomerStasi True, and considering he was the top dog, not getting controlled by anyone unlike his sons, I guess it worked rather well

    • @jaskrip
      @jaskrip Před rokem +13

      I've often heard Valentinian as "the Wrathful", which fits him imo

    • @iDeathMaximuMII
      @iDeathMaximuMII Před rokem +13

      @ZoomerStasi True for Gratian, while he was only 16 when Valentinian kicked the bucket, he did prove to be somewhat capable but due to his fondness of his Alanic Bodyguards, he pissed off the Army (which you should never do)
      But I will say that nothing could've been done with Valentinian II as he was literally 4 years old when his father died & he in turn got dominated by his mother who was the de facto Emperor. I even saw somewhere that she proclaimed herself "Empress Mother" to her son. He was only 21 when he died of either Suicide or Assassination. Never really getting a chance at all, even when he wished to lead the Rhine Legion against the Germans, Arbogast denied him & publicly humiliated the young man by ripping up the notice that Valentinian II gave him. From what I hear, he had to be held back from drawing the sword against Abrogast & was then found dead not long after. It's a sad story for him, I often wish for an Alternate History scenario in which he throws off the chains & becomes his own man, feel bad for the kid

    • @alanpennie8013
      @alanpennie8013 Před rokem +8

      @@iDeathMaximuMII
      He was extremely unlucky.
      All he's really remembered for is getting rebuked by St Ambrose and treated like a naughty child by Arbogast.
      If there had been fewer people in his life who began their names with an A he'd have got on better

    • @iDeathMaximuMII
      @iDeathMaximuMII Před rokem +8

      @@alanpennie8013 And Theodosius I didn’t even seem to care to help him either. After Justina died, Theodosius looked the other way when Valentinian wrote to him about Abrogast (who was HIS General btw) Ambrose was a nut of a Christian. I’m a Catholic but damn was he extra, he’s the guy that pushed Theodosius to outlaw the Old faith. Bishops should never hold that much power, especially against their Sovereign. Valentinian II needs an alternate timeline or something to kick these guys into a prison cell or exile

  • @EasternRomanHistory
    @EasternRomanHistory Před rokem +9

    A good little video. It was also a trend in Victorian historiography to start calling people 'the Great' to highlight the really significant rulers. Ramesses the Great is somewhat more memorable than Ramesses II, when there are 11 Ramesses. This was probably influenced by several rulers closer to their time like Frederick the Great and Catherine the Great using it.
    The only Roman emperor consistently called 'the Great' in later times was Constantine I. For instance, Constantine VII referred to his namesake as 'the great Constantine' because, as you rightly say, everyone knew who Constantine the Great actually was and generally agreed that he deserved that moniker. Reading Symeon the Logothete, he uses 'ho megas' to refer to Justin I

  • @MrSergore
    @MrSergore Před rokem +21

    Great video. Maybe even the Greatest.
    Also, Valentinian I had severe anger issues, good thing it didn't get in the way of his competent rule. He deserves the "Harsh" or "Severe" more, imo.

    • @samlund8543
      @samlund8543 Před rokem +4

      I think “the Wrathful” sounds more catchy personally, but yeah he definitely deserves an epithet related to his anger

    • @ultra-papasmurf
      @ultra-papasmurf Před rokem

      did eventually end his reign, man needed a stress ball or something really fucked the status quo when all it took for him to kick the bucket was speaking to a g*rm

  • @lordofhostsappreciator3075

    > Be Valentinian
    > Faithful Orthodox Christian
    > Go sight see a pagan temple with the LARPagan Neckbeard Emperor himself
    > Demonic pagan priest splashes you with fake holy water
    > Punch his teeth out
    > LARPagan Neckbeard Emperor sends you into exile
    > Return later to become the Emperor anyways
    > Gets called "The Great" by later historians for this sole act
    Common Orthodox W

    • @septimiusseverus343
      @septimiusseverus343 Před rokem +11

      "Neckbeard Emperor," kek. Nice to see someone who doesn't worship the "Roman Akhenaten," either.

    • @t.wcharles2171
      @t.wcharles2171 Před rokem +5

      Oh I gave that heretic a bit of the ol' Saint Nick. Valentinian the great 356 ad.

    • @causantinthescot
      @causantinthescot Před rokem +2

      Virgin jUlIeN tHe pAgAn

  • @Constantine_Bush
    @Constantine_Bush Před rokem +6

    Constantine was deified by the Senate and was hold in high esteem by pagan historians,such as Eutropius,Proxagoras,Libanius,Ammianus and John the Lydian etc.This seals it for me.If your opponents write highly of you,this means you are great.Even Julian and Zosimus admitted Constantine's martial prowress.

  • @ScapularSaves
    @ScapularSaves Před rokem +13

    Well one thing about what you saying there was a Theodosius Maior - the Elder Count Father of Theodosius Magnus. Also side note: There were two Leo the Greats who lived at the same time. Pope of Rome St Leo I, and Roman Emperor Leo I.

  • @cooper8515
    @cooper8515 Před rokem +8

    Easily the best and most thought provoking videos on Roman history. You have a calming voice and topics are also very interesting. Bravo!

  • @specil-k
    @specil-k Před rokem +10

    We can all get along if we just agree to nickname Valentinian III "Inferus" and Honorius "Infimus"

  • @saxtonhalegaming
    @saxtonhalegaming Před rokem +14

    I never knew that "The Great" comes from "O megalos" (I hope I spelled that right) and was used to distinguish the first of a dynasty, rather than a person who did great things. I think that "The Great" as a moniker is too common and vague, since what it great to someone may be average to another.
    For example, Frederick the Great could be Frederick the General or Frederick the Officer for his military achievements and military reformation. Alexander the Great could be Alexander the Conqueror. Louis XIV the Great of France could be Louis the Sun King or Louis the Absolute. And so on. It will add some variation and context for what each person did rather than just saying "They did vague great thing".

    • @lunatickoala
      @lunatickoala Před rokem +3

      The one I find the most amusing is Akbar the Great since the name Akbar already means "the greatest".
      But yeah, "the Great" is a pretty vague epithet that's easily diluted if used too much and doesn't really describe their accomplishments. I didn't even know that Louis XIV was one of the "the Greats" but I did know that he was the Sun King which is much cooler and more unique. It's also a little redundant for historians to give a "the Great" title to a ruler to specify their greatness because if they really were that great, they wouldn't really need to have that spelled out. I think Alexander the Conqueror sounds better than Alexander the Great (in line with William the Conqueror) but I think he was already a "the Great" back in antiquity.
      Having said that, I can understand if historians want to differentiate a particularly notable ruler with a common name. If someone really is worthy of being a "the Great", then when people are learning about a "the Great", they're going to learn at least the basics of their accomplishments. All German kaisers and a lot of Prussian kings were Friedrich and/or Wilhelm and given that Prussia was sometimes known as an army with a country, maybe Fredrick the General wouldn't have been any more useful than Frederick the Great to distinguish his accomplishments (I don't know if any of the other Fredricks were military commanders). If someone had major accomplishments in more than one arena, then that's when "the Great" might be fitting.

    • @saxtonhalegaming
      @saxtonhalegaming Před rokem +1

      @@lunatickoala Agreed. If a person is known primarily for one thing, we should give them a moniker to match it. If they are just that good at everything, than maybe the Great would be appropriate. Or just give them multiple monikers, but that might be confusing.

    • @septimiusseverus343
      @septimiusseverus343 Před rokem

      @@lunatickoala My thoughts exactly. Well done.

    • @m.cl.ballista4642
      @m.cl.ballista4642 Před rokem

      Μέγας ( megas) in Greek means both the big and the great. Most times the great. Αλέξανδρος ο Μέγας. ( Alexander the great) for example.
      The term " greatest " is Μέγιστος ( megistos) and Maximus in Greek and Latin.
      My favourite emperor is Adrianus..And Julianus. 😁

  • @phaethonchristodoulou8561

    Your videos have really changed my perception on some things

  • @alanpennie8013
    @alanpennie8013 Před rokem +2

    "The bad - tempered" would have been an even better moniker for Valentinian.

  • @TonyFontaine1988
    @TonyFontaine1988 Před rokem +11

    Roman Emperors who deserve the title as Great:
    Augustus
    Constantine
    Possibly Aurelian but he died too fast
    Justinian
    Basil the II
    Alexios
    Trajan, Hadrian, etc. All had the Roman empire when it was at its most stable and weren't challenged like other emperors on the list who made large scale reforms, won many military victories, and brought stability to chaotic situations. It is no fault of Trajan and Hadrian for their time, they were good emperors....just not challenged with horrible circumstances. They had to deal with the Parthians who were not near as dangerous as the Sassanids either. Heraclius could be there too but his loss to the Arabs tarnished his legacy from becoming The Great

  • @DGordillo123
    @DGordillo123 Před rokem +1

    Fascinating issue, and I had it all wrong! Thank you!

  • @caracallaavg
    @caracallaavg Před rokem +5

    You forgot my boy Magnus Maximus

  • @Zhohan-
    @Zhohan- Před rokem +1

    This channel is so good.

  • @LoganBerry1017
    @LoganBerry1017 Před rokem +6

    I've also heard Manuel Komnenos be referred to as the Great on numerous occasions, it also seems as though contemporaries held him in particularly high regard, though his failures are making modern historians view him in a seemingly increasing negative light

    • @davidantoniocamposbarros7528
      @davidantoniocamposbarros7528 Před rokem

      Tbh the Kommenian Emperors (with the obvious exceptions of Alexios II and Andronikos I) were the best emperors the empire had since Basil II so it's fair to call them great

    • @LoganBerry1017
      @LoganBerry1017 Před rokem

      @DAVID ANTONIO CAMPOS BARROS yeah I nean the only one who comes close is Andronikos III and maybe poor old Manuel II

    • @mikehawk2003
      @mikehawk2003 Před 9 měsíci

      ​@@davidantoniocamposbarros7528While true, they also set up a system that required a strong, active Emperor to be constantly at the helm which undoubtly led to the collapse of the Empire up to the 4th Crusade.

  • @janvusnic
    @janvusnic Před rokem

    Best channel on roman history hands down!

  • @pukalo
    @pukalo Před rokem +4

    The emperors Majorian and Aurelian both deserve the title of "The Great", as well as Aetius and possibly Stilicho.

  • @justinian-the-great
    @justinian-the-great Před rokem +10

    You could've added Magnus Maximus to the list. Albeit Maximus is his name not the title, Magnus probably is. Though of course we today don't call him "The Great The Greatest".

  • @tiberiuscave4617
    @tiberiuscave4617 Před rokem +1

    It is worth noting that the majority of the emperors from Augustus to the 4th century (including some notorious names like Gaius and Nero) were called optimus princeps, and that is not something exclusive to Trajan.

  • @TrajGreekFire
    @TrajGreekFire Před rokem +7

    Leo the Butcher though

  • @sibericusthefrosty9950
    @sibericusthefrosty9950 Před rokem +6

    Made me think about Emperor Magnus Maximus. So his name would be translated as "The Great The Greatest?"

    • @huanquocmanh416
      @huanquocmanh416 Před rokem +1

      Yes

    • @iDeathMaximuMII
      @iDeathMaximuMII Před rokem +1

      I wonder how that sounded like for the Romans that followed him “My Lord The Great The Greatest! At your service!”

  • @jensphiliphohmann1876

    Anyway, your videos are great.😎

  • @causantinthescot
    @causantinthescot Před rokem +24

    I decide Constantine The Lad was the greatest.
    PRAISE IESVS AND SOL INVICTIVS

  • @yochaiwyss3843
    @yochaiwyss3843 Před rokem +6

    What is a Magnus or Maximus compared to RESTITUTOR ORBIS ?

  • @revanius2213
    @revanius2213 Před rokem +6

    Leo and Theodosius should be referred to them as that, nothing against Leo I, really just comparatively forgettable. Valentinian's alternative one would be fitting for the angriest Emperor, though he was one of the last effective Emperors before the fall of the West. And Honestly calling Constantine 'The Greatest' and Justinian 'Saint Justinian The Emperor' was something they would have preferred given their personalities.

  • @rursus8354
    @rursus8354 Před rokem +3

    "The Elder." Not a very memorable epithet! The Vikings had more fanciful cognomens: Harald Fairhair, Harald Bluetooth, Ingold Illruler, Olaf Woodwhittler, Eric Bloodaxe, Eric the Lisping and Limping.

  • @bigalmou2261
    @bigalmou2261 Před rokem +3

    Will you ever do a video on the imperial ethnic conquest titles? Germanicus, gothicus, africus, etc. If you already did, I haven't seen it.
    Somewhere I read that Manuel I Komnenos was the last to use them, and that there was a "legal basis" for it, whatever that means.

  • @chickencharlie1992
    @chickencharlie1992 Před rokem +4

    Leo looks like he could use some sleep

    • @iDeathMaximuMII
      @iDeathMaximuMII Před rokem +4

      He might’ve looked like that after the Botched 468 Invasion of Africa

    • @septimiusseverus343
      @septimiusseverus343 Před rokem +4

      @@iDeathMaximuMII His eyes are popping out in rage because he wants to kill Basiliscus.

    • @iDeathMaximuMII
      @iDeathMaximuMII Před rokem +3

      @@septimiusseverus343 Leo I: WHERE IS THAT SNIVELING COWARD!? I WANT HIS FUCKING HEAD
      Basiliscus: *Hides in a church*
      Verina: Noooooo don't kill my bro
      Leo I: *Grunts in anger*

    • @alanpennie8013
      @alanpennie8013 Před rokem

      @@iDeathMaximuMII
      Like Augustus after The Varian disaster.

    • @Argo123_.0
      @Argo123_.0 Před rokem

      That craters in the eyes is a bad choice, idk why people started doing that more commonly in the third century

  • @andremiguel1143
    @andremiguel1143 Před rokem +4

    Constantine, Valentinian and Theodosius my beloved ❤

  • @aninjathtpwndu
    @aninjathtpwndu Před rokem +6

    Rank all "The Greats"

  • @generalaigullletes5830

    BRO THAT ACCENT WHEN U SAY THE FUNNY WATER

  • @giannisgiannopoulos791
    @giannisgiannopoulos791 Před rokem +6

    It's highly unlikely to use the word "Great" for an elderly person. Namely when you see the word "Μέγας/Megas" next to the person's name, that means he is Great, not the Elder. You can use the word " Μεγάλος/Megalos" for an elderly person (depends always on the conversation of the moment,otherwise the word is obscure) but not megas. The word Megas goes for "THE" Megalos. For example, we say " Constantine V was a great (megalos) emperor (autokrator)", but he was not great (Megas) like Constantine I.
    The word "Megas/Great" was given to the Emperors by the church for their commitment and support to the Nicaean/Chalcedonian Christianity.
    Namely, Constantine I ( Edict of Mediolanum, first Christian Emperor, Isapostolos and Saint)Theodosius I ( Edict of Thessalonica), Leo I (elimination of the Arian/ Gothic ie Barbarian influence in Constantinople), Justinian I ( Hard-core Orthodox. Persecution of heresies, further marginalization of paganism, shut down of Plato's school in Athens, Saint.)

    • @RomabooRamblings
      @RomabooRamblings  Před rokem +3

      Thanks for the clarification. I took at as meaning "The Greater (of the two)", because it is always accompanied by "o Mikros" for the younger namesake.

    • @giannisgiannopoulos791
      @giannisgiannopoulos791 Před rokem +1

      @@RomabooRamblings Yeah, it's that a "megalos Autokrator" is great but not as great as to be refered as "Megas" ie The Great. Thank you for your very informative videos.

    • @sasi5841
      @sasi5841 Před rokem

      I thought "autokrator" means king/despot and "Basileus" meant emperor

    • @giannisgiannopoulos791
      @giannisgiannopoulos791 Před rokem

      ​@@sasi5841 Αutokrator/Αυτοκράτωρ (Koine)/Αυτοκράτορας(Modern) means Emperor. Basileus/Βασιλεύς/Βασιλιάς means King. After Heraclius emerged victoriously in the Roman - Persian war of 602-628, he also took the title of the Persian "King of Kings" translated in Greek as "Basileus", the same title Alexander had. From then on the Roman Emperor was signed as " Name...., faithful in Christ the God, King and Emperor of the Romans", " ....., Πιστός έν Χριστώ τώ Θεώ, Βασιλεύς καί Αυτοκράτωρ Ρωμαίων"
      Άκυρο
      Απάντηση

    • @sasi5841
      @sasi5841 Před rokem

      @@giannisgiannopoulos791 what does akuro and apantisi mean?

  • @septimiusseverus343
    @septimiusseverus343 Před rokem +1

    _Valentinianus has the best "alternative title."_

  • @abebuenodemesquita8111
    @abebuenodemesquita8111 Před rokem +1

    just a note: when you are saying "o megalos", the first omicron has a rough breathing mark and so it is pronounced more like ho megalos

  • @lastword8783
    @lastword8783 Před rokem

    1:03 I never noticed that Augustus is bare foot in that statue. Why was he depicted like that?

  • @Moribus_Artibus
    @Moribus_Artibus Před rokem +1

    Meanwhile in Egypt: Ptolemy 'lover of his father'

    • @septimiusseverus343
      @septimiusseverus343 Před rokem +1

      The Greeks also had "Keraunos," meaning "Thunderbolt." (example: Ptolemy Keraunos) A far more awesome epithet than "tHe GrEaT."

  • @theeternalanglo5629
    @theeternalanglo5629 Před rokem +1

    Aren't there some crusader sources that refer to Manuel Komnenos as 'The Great'

  • @jensphiliphohmann1876

    About 03:00 ff: Is this really Valentinian I or rather Marcian, as I also heared of?

  • @mrscechy8625
    @mrscechy8625 Před rokem

    I scrolled through the Wikipedia page myself and I saw Manuel I Komnenos on there. I had no idea he was called the Great by anyone. Do you know where/when Manuel was referred to as 'The Great'?

  • @christophera556
    @christophera556 Před rokem +3

    These late Roman emperors who were given the name the great were likely given the term the great because those particular emperors were devout Christians and the historians who in some cases wrote the history of these emperors were also devout Christians themselves.

    • @sarasamaletdin4574
      @sarasamaletdin4574 Před 19 dny

      This video explained how they got the names. And while the Christian historians liked them they didn’t exactly the called great the way we assume

  • @nicbahtin4774
    @nicbahtin4774 Před rokem

    Lol that miss translation is a great error and should be rectified.

  • @lol-hy4mk
    @lol-hy4mk Před rokem

    How did roman emperors get their nicknames could be an interesting video

  • @Michael_the_Drunkard
    @Michael_the_Drunkard Před rokem +3

    The Statue actually represents Marcian

  • @tiredidealist
    @tiredidealist Před rokem

    I do.

  • @realdaggerman105
    @realdaggerman105 Před rokem

    John down at HR decides.

  • @liam7664
    @liam7664 Před rokem

    Its me, I do

  • @christurner6330
    @christurner6330 Před rokem +7

    Us, the Romaboos.
    Edit: Now I know why Theodosius I. the """"great"""" is called that

    • @andremiguel1143
      @andremiguel1143 Před rokem

      Because he solos

    • @ultra-papasmurf
      @ultra-papasmurf Před rokem +1

      Theodosius had to invent Ombudsman to protect his own people from his own tax collectors (didnt do much since they had no legal power but its something)

  • @monsieursp00ky44
    @monsieursp00ky44 Před rokem +1

    why is rome so cool

  • @nyxhighlander9894
    @nyxhighlander9894 Před rokem +1

    Justinian for the win i am not biased at all

  • @mr.patriotic881
    @mr.patriotic881 Před rokem

    I decided who is great

  • @justinianthegreat1444
    @justinianthegreat1444 Před rokem +1

    Out of all of them, I am the GREATEST

  • @Thecrownswill
    @Thecrownswill Před 3 měsíci

    Me. I decide.

  • @MrMomo182
    @MrMomo182 Před rokem

    You are "The Great" if you started your reign as a King and ended it as an Emperor. Cyrus, b. King of Anshan, d. Emperor of Persia. Alexander, b. King of Macedon, d. Emperor of Persia. Ivan, b. Prince of Moscow, d. Tsar of Russia. Alfred, b. King of Wessex, d. King of the Anglo-Saxons.

    • @Innerste_
      @Innerste_ Před 8 měsíci

      This is far too specific a definition, also what if you started it as a duke and ended it as a king? For example Bolesław I of Poland

  • @debater452
    @debater452 Před rokem

    Question why isn't Justin the first called the great when he has the same thing as all these ones

  • @georged.5595
    @georged.5595 Před rokem +2

    If you're gonna call Justinian the Great "Saint Justinian" then why not do the same with Saint Constantine?

    • @alanpennie8013
      @alanpennie8013 Před rokem

      Probably disqualified because of his murder of his son and wife.
      Not quite as bad as Nero, but still pretty bad.

    • @davidantoniocamposbarros7528
      @davidantoniocamposbarros7528 Před rokem +5

      Constantine is literally a Saint in the Orthodox Church,so there he's always been referred to as "Saint Constantine"

  • @kelvenhua4886
    @kelvenhua4886 Před rokem

    I think you are forgetting about my boy, Magnus Maximus, who was not only the best he was also the greatest.

  • @ReplyToMeIfUrRetarded
    @ReplyToMeIfUrRetarded Před 8 měsíci

    Based Valentinian I

  • @sarkast1k485
    @sarkast1k485 Před rokem

    so all you need to do to get the roman empire from god is to punch a pagan priest, noted

  • @justinian536
    @justinian536 Před rokem +1

    simple, the writers

  • @SpartanLeonidas1821
    @SpartanLeonidas1821 Před rokem

    Alexandros O Megistos 🇬🇷
    "The Greatest of All"

  • @kangtheconqueror8784
    @kangtheconqueror8784 Před rokem

    Title - who decides which emperors are great.
    Reality - who decides which ROMAN emperors are great.

  • @Thebois938
    @Thebois938 Před 7 měsíci

    God.

  • @royalmitchell4905
    @royalmitchell4905 Před rokem

    what is wrong with the eyes on Leo's bust?

    • @iDeathMaximuMII
      @iDeathMaximuMII Před rokem +1

      As someone said in the comments, he's probably enraged after the 468 & foaming at the mouth to murder Basiliscus

    • @ItalMiser117
      @ItalMiser117 Před rokem

      he is firing his laser

    • @causantinthescot
      @causantinthescot Před rokem

      Because of Bad-scilicus

  • @jensphiliphohmann1876

    A republican statesman and general also had "the great" in his name: Cn. Pompeius Magnus.

  • @onemoreminute0543
    @onemoreminute0543 Před rokem

    I'll be honest, the more I read about Theodosius, the less I feel he deserved the title of 'the great'

  • @amuktadir1991
    @amuktadir1991 Před rokem

    THE 2nd Greatest Empire In Legendary time.

  • @Apollo1989V
    @Apollo1989V Před rokem

    The great is overused. Some people called the great don’t deserve to be called that. Alexander may have conquered Persia, but the quick splintering of conquests should cause him to be called the conqueror and not the great. Also, a more descriptive nickname to know figures by would better than the boring “the great” epithet. Like Peter I of Russia maybe should get the westernizer nickname rather than the great.

    • @lopmop1725
      @lopmop1725 Před rokem

      macedonia was a small kingdom before alexander and after alexander macedonian citizens became rulers over large kingdoms and the macedonian country of alexander expanded nonetheless.

  • @Ravi9A
    @Ravi9A Před rokem +3

    It's absurd that petty rulers like Alfred are considered great and placed alongside someone like Constantine.

  • @healthmain
    @healthmain Před rokem

    Constantine the greatest? 😂 Better than Trajan or Aurelian? Or even Diocletian?

  • @anastasios0513
    @anastasios0513 Před rokem

    Thank you for mentioning that Justinian is a saint in the Orthodox Church (although Constantine is, as well).
    I think I will start referring to Constantine as "St. Constantine the Greatest" and see what my co-religionists say haha :P

  • @ianc8266
    @ianc8266 Před rokem

    Very nice video but mind your Greek. It's ὁ "ho" not just "o"!

  • @causantinthescot
    @causantinthescot Před rokem +7

    He had the charisma of Julius Caesar and Alexander The Great, as financially astute as Augustus and Antonius Pius, as brave as Gallienus and Aurelian, as ruthless as Hadrian and Domitian, had the same vision as Diocletian and Probus, and as dutiful as Claudius I, Marcus Aurelius and Vespasian.
    He was no ordinary person. Like GALLIENVS, he was an envoy from heaven to save the Roman Empire and rebuilt it from ashes, while being merged with from greatest emperors before him. He was... FLAVIVS VALERIVS CONSTANTIVS GIGACHADIVS OPTIMVS MAXIMVS, THE GREATEST ROMAN EMPEROR EVER!!!

  • @anon3631
    @anon3631 Před rokem

    some schizo at wendy's

  • @histguy101
    @histguy101 Před rokem +1

    Theodosius the decent
    Leo the Great, Thracian, Butcher
    Tyrannus Justinianus
    If Theodosius "the great" just means "the elder," then what about his father, "Theodosius the elder"?

  • @elshebactm6769
    @elshebactm6769 Před rokem

    🤠👍🏿

  • @jl696
    @jl696 Před rokem +1

    I would consider none of the Emperors you discuss in this video as "Great". All of them contributed in their own way to the ultimate destruction of the Western Roman Empire, with the possible exceptions of Valentinian and Julian. So, aside from promoting Christianity as the state religion of Rome, most of these emperors did very little to strengthen the original Roman Empire. Almost all of them saw to its destruction by actions that were intentional or unintentional.

    • @davidantoniocamposbarros7528
      @davidantoniocamposbarros7528 Před rokem +1

      The WRE was literally nothing worth saving bruh lol

    • @leandrogonzaga7294
      @leandrogonzaga7294 Před rokem +2

      typical LARPagan L

    • @jl696
      @jl696 Před rokem

      @@davidantoniocamposbarros7528 It depends on which part of the Western Roman Empire you lived in. I think a lot of Romans in Britannia and Gaul would disagree with you.

    • @Constantine_Bush
      @Constantine_Bush Před rokem

      Constantine reconquered Lower Germania.

    • @sarasamaletdin4574
      @sarasamaletdin4574 Před 19 dny

      What did Julian do apart from fighting barbarians a couple of years as a junior emperor and then horribly embarrassing defeat in the East? The beard pamphlet?
      Christianity didn’t affect anything as can be seen from Eastern Roman Empire, and later rest of Europe adapting to Christianity. Even if Christianity was cause of all issues Julian failed to do anything about it

  • @nicknaylor9895
    @nicknaylor9895 Před rokem

    Theodosius will forever be known as "the virgin" after the great historian Dovahhatty revealed the truth of his reign.

  • @subashira
    @subashira Před rokem +1

    boleslaw >>> beta virgin roman emperors

    • @septimiusseverus343
      @septimiusseverus343 Před rokem

      Who?

    • @t.wcharles2171
      @t.wcharles2171 Před rokem

      Which one ???
      Bolesław I of Poland (ca. 966 - 1025), known as 'the Brave' or 'the Valiant', Duke of Poland from 992 to 1025 (ending in 1025 as King of Poland)
      Bolesław II of Poland (1039-1081), known as 'the Bold', 'the Generous' or 'the Cruel', Duke of Poland 1058 to 1076 and King of Poland 1076 to 1079
      Bolesław III Wrymouth (1085-1138), Duke of Poland from 1102 to 1138
      Bolesław IV the Curly (1120-1173), High Duke of Poland from 1146 to 1173
      Bolesław of Kuyavia (1159-1195), Duke of Kuyavia from c. 1186 to 1195
      Bolesław I of Cieszyn, Duke of CieszynBolesław II of Cieszyn, Duke of Cieszyn
      Bolesław II Rogatka (1220/5-1278), Duke of Silesia, portions of Poland
      Bolesław V the Chaste (1226-1279), mid-13th century Duke of Kraków, who rebuilt the city after its destruction in 1241
      Bolesław the Pious (c. 1224 - 1279), Duke of Greater Poland 1239-1247Bolesław I of Masovia (1208-1248), Duke of Sandomierz, Sieradz (1233-1234), and Masovia (1229-1248)
      Bolesław II of Masovia, Duke of Masovia (c. 1250 - 1313)
      Bolesław the Elder ( 1293-1365), Duke of Wielun, Niemodlin, who often went by the name Bolko
      Bolesław Jerzy of Mazovia, Duke of Masovia and Galicia-Volhynia (died 1340)
      Bolesław III of Płock, Duke of Płock (c. 1325 - 1351)
      Bolesław IV of Warsaw, Duke of Warsaw (1421-1454)
      Bolesław V of Warsaw, Duke of Warsaw, Zakroczym, Nur, Płock, and Wizna (1454-1488)Polish-Silesian rulers from House of Piast known as Bolkos
      Bolko I the Strict (1252/56-1301), Duke of Lwówek, Jawor, Świdnica, Ziębice/Münsterberg
      Bolko I of Opole (1258-1313), Duke of Opole, Niemodlin, Strzelce OpolskieBolko II of Ziębice (1300-1341), Duke of Ziębice/Münsterberg
      Bolko II of Ziębice (1300-1341), Duke of Ziębice/MünsterbergBolko II of Opole (1300-1356), Duke of Opole
      Bolko II the Small (1312-1368), Duke of Świdnica Jawor, Lwówek, Lusatia, Siewierz, who was the last independent Duke of the Piast dynasty in SilesiaBolko III of Strzelce ( 1337-1382), Duke of Opole, Strzelce
      Bolko III of Münsterberg ( 1348-1410), Duke of Ziębice/Münsterberg
      Bolko IV of Opole (1363/67-1437), Duke of Strzelce, Niemodlin, Opole
      Bolko V the Hussite (ca. 1400-1460), Duke of Opole, Głogówek, Prudnik, Strzelce, Niemodlin, Olesno
      Boleslaus I of Bohemia (died 967 or 972), known as 'the Cruel', ruling from 929 (or 935) to 972 (or 967)
      Boleslaus II of Bohemia (c. 920 - 999), known as 'the Pious', ruling from 972 to 999
      Boleslaus III of Bohemia (died 1037), known as 'the Red' or 'the Blind', ruling from 999 to 1002
      Boleslaw, 12th-century Swedish king
      Burislav, mythical Wendish or Polish king

  • @Uncle_Fred
    @Uncle_Fred Před rokem

    Things that should be required to be considered for the title "Great":
    1. Preside over and win a military conflict with existential consequences for the state.
    2. Institute wise and far-reaching reforms that lay the foundation of long-lasting socioeconomic prosperity. These policies should lift the standard of living for the poor.
    3. Undertake a major national project that brings your state lasting fame. This could be a building project (extra points if it's infrastructure), a scientific project that leads to a major world-altering discovery, or a grand voyage of exploration.
    4. Lay the foundation for a meritocratic, rules-based, reasonably inclusive, peaceful transfer of power.
    5. Once the ruler's permitted term is complete, act in a selfless manner and voluntarily give up power in accordance with the rules of that system.
    Given these criteria, I'd argue only a small handful of people have ever earned the title. One that would come to mind is George Washington.

  • @barrankobama4840
    @barrankobama4840 Před rokem

    Theodosius 🤢

  • @MiguelDS5547
    @MiguelDS5547 Před rokem

    The only roman emperors who deserve the title "great" don't have the title and they were all pagans. So that would tell you who got to decide who gets to be call "Great".

    • @TonyFontaine1988
      @TonyFontaine1988 Před rokem +4

      Constantine deserves it. Trajan had the Roman Empire on easy mode. Emperors like Constantine, Aurelian, Augustus, and others had to deal with worse circumstances.

    • @lordofhostsappreciator3075
      @lordofhostsappreciator3075 Před rokem +1

      Typical LARPagan cope

  • @Vasilefs_Terranorum
    @Vasilefs_Terranorum Před rokem +6

    Well, Theodosius I most certainly does not deserve the honour of being called “the great”, personally I’d rate him as one of the worst leaders in the 2000+ years of Roman civilisation.

    • @lordofhostsappreciator3075
      @lordofhostsappreciator3075 Před rokem +16

      L take

    • @andremiguel1143
      @andremiguel1143 Před rokem +11

      Every day I'm more convinced I may very well the only romaboo that really likes him lmao.

    • @Innerste_
      @Innerste_ Před rokem +8

      He wasn’t a bad emperor he was pretty good, the worst thing he did was the way he treated Alaric but other than than he was a solid emperor

    • @iDeathMaximuMII
      @iDeathMaximuMII Před rokem +6

      He wasn’t the worst, but he certainly wasn’t as good as historians hype him up to be. That title of worse Emperor goes to either Honorius, Valentinian III & Caligula. Some others too

    • @Vasilefs_Terranorum
      @Vasilefs_Terranorum Před rokem +1

      @@iDeathMaximuMII not the worst, but definitely one of them. That dubious honour would result in a tie between Honorious, Valentinian III, Phocas and Alexios IV as far as I am concerned.

  • @poutsovgalthsxarilaos5663

    Althought i liked ur video i want to point out that greeks used "πρεσβυτερος" as the meaning of elder , "μεγας" or "μεγαλος" was literally the way to call someone great rarely mixing the two together

  • @PaxRomanaYoutube
    @PaxRomanaYoutube Před rokem +3

    I do.

  • @geoDB.
    @geoDB. Před rokem +3

    I do.