The ULTIMATE Destiny 2 Build Battle (What is the BEST Build?)
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- čas přidán 17. 06. 2024
- The other day, we had our largest build battle yet, with 5 competitors pitting their builds off against each other to find out who has the BEST build for this week's GM.
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0:00 Intro
1:59 Strand Explosion Build
8:12 Icy Helldiver Build
13:58 Void Hunter Build
20:48 Strand Warlock Build
27:37 The Wingman Build
30:14 Which Build Won?
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The Lament one really used expectations to its favor, because everyone thought it was gonna be shit, myself included. I gotta give props for perfecting the hack and slash fantasy of Lament, because most people just equip it and hope for the best, but this one had an entire kit to master it. The Shatterdive for quick burst damage, the Lament for survivavility and good sustained damage, The AoE freeze dodge for CC to get a breather in the middle of combat. We are all here playing Destiny 2 while the person who submitted that build is playing Devil May Cry or something lol.
I'm trying that build with malfeasance, a solar weapon, and then a cataphract gl utilizing all the seasonal mods with elemental affects.
@@zachstinnett5475Wouldn't be as good. Yeah sure you'll apply scorch but it's that freeze that allows for additional breathing room.
In a GM, restoration ain't saving you in the middle of a mob.
i only play titan. is there an exotic that could pair well with this build to test it out for titan mains?
@@shawnvalentine7765yes use stasis titan with stronghold gauntlests
@@sayyedzarrar ty
Hey guys, just letting ya'll know: Xivu Arath's battle song emboldens her soldiers.
Ill have to keep a lookout for that.
End it.
Oh yeah, here I can get it
You should also know that whether we wanted it or not, we have stepped into a war with the cabal on mars.
10:08 I felt this rant in my soul lmao, I too, get so fed up and tired of people cheesing GMs and STILL dying.
Nothing quite like failing to understand the Cheesespot is based on Fireteam 'Hitbox' identification.
So if you're solo, if they never see the fireteams entire hitbox, it'll essentially never initiate an attack, even though the ads clearly understand where you are.
The second you add more people? If they see anyones hitbox, everyone is fair game because now they have the condition to initiate the attacks.
This entire GM is perfectly fine with 3 people without the cheese spot, the only use for the cheesespot is in SOLO GMs and has the only passable reason for doing so (You die once, back to orbit). With 3 people, if you're dying, you haven't set the builds up.
Hell a Blinding GL (and some restoration/damage resist/etc.) just trivialises the whole thing (even if you don't chain Wells).
People are happy to just adopt something without trying to understand it - then wonder why it doesn't work.
Had to actively tell someone earlier today when they said "Are we cheesing it" (Boss room) that it is really *really* unnecessary in a 3-man GM (or straight up doesn't work for Ghost Defense).
I had a dude die in that cheese spot 8 times! I kept telling him it was pointless and to just stay with me and the other guy, but he literally argued with me 😂.
@@ShadowReaperX07I agree! I actually tried the cheese in the boss room after the others went up and I died more up top than I ever have just staying below and fighting my way around the room using cover.
@jeffpierce585 too many people would rather do an hour long slog of a GM where they're hiding and everyone else is forced to carry them rather then put on a half decent build and try to slay out and actually have fun.
@@ShadowReaperX07 interesting I learned something new about the enemy ai targeting! I just get bored of cheese strats that drag out GMs, I'd much rather have fast chaotic runs where everyone is slaying out than the slow hour long slogs where people hide 90% of the time
Yes my icy helldiver build made the tube! There can be some slight adjustments for the void weapon and this was doing well without GM surges. I’m proud of it and yes I can imagine being better with ice armor coming
Congrats on making the video dude! The people in the comments are giving you props man.
That build is crazy, im gonna try it out tn 🫡🔥
That stasis build was outlandish and awesome! Cross did a really good job playing it as well. Very excellent build!
@@Ghettoparables5 play around with different void weapons and mods. I found that the fusion rifle “ likely suspect” with turnabout (gives overshield) works well when popping those shields in the second room
@@bdub846 gotcha, I made a void build last night that did crazy numbers. It centered around rat king, Gyrfalcon’s and the lmg from vault of glass.
I want you to do a retrospective video on the best build of all time. That includes from D1 to current D2. Which build in its meta at the time was the best?
Mountaintop + Recluse + Anarchy + Autoloading Well.
Change my mind
@@antares8826 Star-class was arguably better
Datto did something similar if you haven't watched. He mostly focused on weapon loadouts though, since builds didn't really exist as much in D1/Early D2
If not mtt anarchy recluse with well. Then i mean?????
Maybe some ikelos smg warmind cell shenanigans (falling guillotine i think was the heavy) could be a contender
It’s gotta be self rez warlock from D1.
Glorbo build when?
So glad Bingo decided to nerf Glorbo, he was beyond OP
@@lucienmoolman8017he still has to be viable tho, need to see glorbo build post nerf
this was never funny
@@LinkGallent I'm sorry you don't have a sense of humor bud, ill make my hunter do the candle light vigil emote just for you
@@fuhkyu8146i'm sorry you need to conform to have self-esteem
Loved how the music picked up when Cross got into the 2nd build. Editors putting in WORK.
i need the track! the music on his 3rd attempt on the 2nd build slaps
Omg it's fucking jortstorm this is beautiful
@DuskDewd glad someone noticed but nah its just the same song that charlie used as a base
I want to recommend a bracket style miniseries in preparation for Onslaught. Have a day where you take 5 warlock submissions (1 per subclass) and whittle down to the recommended best 2. Then 5 titan and hunter subclass builds and their respective 2.
The bracket which one are the very best. Make recommendations for fire team setups
the icy helldiver build looked so fun to play,, like this is a GM, endgame level content and you’re running around there in melee with everything and throwing out abilities like crazy with tons of explosions and freezes and cool effects going on, jumping around like crazy and just always being surrounded by the enemy but always watching them crumble away into dust,,, sounds sick
As much as people will say it’s a “boring” build, Orpheus Nightstalker is so unbelievably powerful just by itself that it doesn’t even matter what weapons you run. Having insane uptime on your super + invis for clutch revives is so potent in GM content that it’ll always be top tier regardless of the rest of the build. My personal go-to is either Osteo or Graviton, with a filler special weapon and Braytech Osprey with Bipod (though I did just roll a Crux with Slideshot so that’s probably getting slotted in place of the Osprey)
Yo, that third bombardiers run was honestly gorgeous. I love that exotic and seeing it used at such a high tier of play was my favorite thing.
I'm blown away by that Icy Helldiver build. That bombadier dodge while surrounded made me want to try it
Pretty sure that Wingman build is a PvP one. I actually use that build with Boots of the Assembler and a heliocentric with cure + kill clip and it does really good as support.
Ok props to the editor for music selection. It popped off that last run on the stasis build!! Totally worth it! It accentuated Cross’s play and amped it t up to epic prepositions!
Thar stasis hunter build when u figured it out was pretty sick ngl
The lament one actually looks like a ton of fun, gonna try it out later
Honestly u r so good man no one has caught my attention with his expertise like u
Stasis hunter with renewals and buried bloodline carries! Not to mention dimensional hype wave frame hits like a truck now too, especially with groups even without chain reaction.
I just crafted a field prep chain reaction both enhanced. It’s getting buffed again soon too. It’s gonna be meta for ad clear. Maybe paired with lucky pants builds as well
I JUST noticed I've been rocking lv 1 perks on my dimensional for months now lmfao. It does so good I diddnt realize I had trash perks on it😂😂
DIM link?
@curtisgeist6122 I can’t send links but I made a video on this account showing it 👍🏻
@@michaelferrarini1463 The chain reaction buff is going to be niiice, until then vorpal has been clapping bosses with envious assassin!
I have a Felwinters Helm build that’s makes use of Stasis. It is exquisite. You freeze everything, and then you shatter it or get the finisher to get everything Weakened, all while repeating the whole process with Conditional Finality.
(You also get radiant if you run the season Mod and get the Ignition Kills.)
Would love to see some build combos for fireteams as well for more insane consistent synergy.
Ive been using moth strand on my hunter with perpetuaulis with zen and hatchling. Then using the ron heavy grenade launcher with demo and paracausal. Ive never had more fun in a build. I watched his other video about it and i put my weapons to it and damn, that auto is sick.
I feel like Tessalation with like a Verity’s Brow strand build would be pretty decent.
I find it insane not one build has had a scavenger mod on while running rockets. Just running one guarantees you’ll get 2 rockets minimum for every heavy brick
I don't play much hunter but that moth build has got me hooked right now
I know right
Little off topic but that marcato 45 has been probably my favorite machine gun since retrofit
I was using 6th coyote strand, having fun this gm...the reason I follow this series...
I think I’m definitely gonna try out that icy Helldivers build. Sure it’s a high skill ceiling BUT I used to be a sword main. I’ve some ideas brewing on how to make it work on Titan with Strongholds, too.
Love the 80s music the ice helldiver build part!
What is this ambitious season finale
I love these videos, thank you for man for being who you are. Love your content.
Eyes of tomorrow, Argent ordinance, Phoenix cradle,
radiance scorch build, waveframe gl, run this for add clear. We do Phoenix with higher scorch to use the sunspots to help apply scorch, on top of the solar rockets.
Man, I put on this Icy Helldiver build tonight and I haven't put it down, yet. This thing is absolutely NUTS in how much fun it is. Try it out in the Duality dungeon sometime; it's good fun.
That stasis hunter lament build I went and made myself. I run it with a Heliocentric sidearm with heal clip/incandescent and the stasis GL with unrelenting/redirection and this build is a workhorse
"group up and play with the squad" lol
I needed this video. I started playing after a 5 month hiatus and i don’t even know wtf to use 😂
Dang, what was the song playing during icy helldiver? Had my head bumpin’
Music is just poppin off, star of the show during icy helldiver build
Strand titan with heartshadow is the best build in the entire game. You have suspend, invis, and two debuffs. I never die.
More details? What Titan exotic? Wanna see this in action!
Titans and Heartshadow is so underrated
The best and most fun enemy wrecking unkillable build in the entire game is this: Titan with Abeyant Leaps. Rally barricade, shackle nade, aspects are Drengrs Lash and Banner of War. Fragments are Thread of Mind, Thread of Warding, Thread of generation, Thread of Continuity. Weapons are Wilderflight blinding gl (it’s a must have) HeartShadow with catalyst and I use immortal adept with extended barrel, ricochet rounds, three detector, and hatchling, range mw or buzzard adept with overflow kinetic tremors. Armor mods heavy ammo finder on helm, heavy handed on arms, chest piece is very important here because you’ll be up close at all times so you want to have on concussive dampener, mele damage resist, and lucent blade for invis upkeep. For boots recuperation is a must, elemental charge, void or kinetic weapon surge, and for the mark you want to have on reaper, time dilation, and proximity ward is very important for staying alive when you’re in battle. Remind yourself to use heartshadwo to go invis then get into the fight and continue to use blinding gl and heartshadow. With banner of war you’re actually unkillable if you chain everything right.
@@KayronThowould probably be stronghold for the restoration and guard bonuses
@@neverzackdownI’m gonna have to try this if I ever get a damn Heartshadow.
cross trolling with the strand lock build made me LMAO in class🤣
People die in the cheese spot had me dead
Gotta love the Jort storm instrumental music.
I got a build for you for this current season: song of ice and fire:
Stasis warlock, seeker, extra freezy, the exotic arms for the grenades, vex mythos, any primary/special, i prefer the seasonal trace, and anything for heavy (been using the hulabaloo.) Set the artifact mods for the stasis and the solar routes. Get radiant then drop a seeker, then throw other grenade into group of enemy. Do not shatter right off the bat, wait till its done freezing things, then boom them. Throw another turret, repeat if you want. Always go for headshots. Use heavy on a group of freshly frozen enemies for best amount of grenade return, use the trace rifle to help you with killing tally. This will keep the control going, and developing of stasis crustals is literally phenomenal. Make sure to have 3 stasis turrets before ulting, then use the shattering pulse to destroy all that are frozen. Constant damage with burst when targets are frozen by turrets.
This is awful
If anything, the bombardiers build was just fun
Felwinters helm with finisher invisibility and lement goes crazy. Go in, finish an enemy, it weakens, and disorients, you go invis, use lement, repeat.
MY MOMMA TAUGHT ME RIGHT
Ngl that stasis build gamelan loop looked os satisfying lol
Kinda surprised there haven't been more support builds honestly. They truly do carry things unsung.
My off meta build absolutely carries. I get my well back in as quickly as 30 seconds and as long as 1 min not to mention I do the most if not one of the most boss dps.
Thumbnail goes so hard 😩🔥🔥🔥
Little tip: picking up the mote-looking things in the ghost room re-establish the connection
Gotta incorporate playing with the person submitting the build too, to get a feel for submitter skill level and to see if Cross uses the build wrong
The warlock build can be improved drastically when there's void surge. Replace eye of another world with nezarec's sin and some decent void addclear weapons, e.g. commemoration and maybe le monarque. You basically have 100% uptime on weavers trance and melees.
Probably my favorite destiny series ngl
You should totally do a rebuttal battle for the
banned!
The Strand & stasis hunter builds were the only ones with any kind of build synergy. The other 3 were just pick a subclass and pick some weapons.
i feel like every build was made by people who were just reading traits and perks, but the lament/bombardiers guy truly had a vision
When making the build I was thinking that everything has been almost done when doing GMS. Void Hunter malfeasance + lucky pants? Done already. Stand Titan with syntho + tractor and 1 2 shotty? Also done. Thorn + necrotic or Stacy + osmiomancy? Again been done. People complaining but not thinking outside of the box. It’s not perfect but it is fun and that’s what you’re playing for.
@@bdub846 It’s the only one i wanted to go home and try for myself. good job really
Have to wonder if the Slammer might work with the uber-aggressive Bobardiers build. Chill clip on that sucker and some other exotic in one of the other slots. But sure, Lament is brutal.
Once they add new ice armor to stasis, that second build could be nutty
For that Lament guy use lucent blades insted of reserve you will do even more good . Need players Like you Man absolute G .
I carry so many lfg teams with stronghold lament Stasis build, is so good
As a lament main im worried that blueberries would watch this and underestimate this exotic
If only it would behave well when you play above 60 fps
You a stronghold main? If not what do you run lament with?
If they do then Lament will continue its streak of never getting nerfed.
Lament titan with stronghold makes me like gandalf on the bridge against the balrog, you shall not pass
@@fishnutz5196Renewals with Lament and a Lead from Gold/Demo Riptide as my primary for that 20% grenade energy per kill.
Winter's Shroud for Slow each time I dodge instead of Touch of Winter.
Constant DR nades being spammed and Lament healing and doing DR with it's shield.
Won't let you solo a GM but in a team setting, absolutely slaps.
Honestly I think if the “strand explosion” build (1st build tried in vid) was more focused to using the mothkeepers grenades to continuously give yourself overshield and the moth to attack enemies, then using tessalation to regain your grenades
I feel the build wouldve been more… viable if used that way
I love watching this because I am such a casual at 1811 and have never done a raid or dungeon. I dont know what good gear is lol
Malfeasance+Lucky Pants+Indebted Kindness (w/ Voltshot)+Apex build is literally my most used build in just about any content, if that was Orpheus Rig, L pick. Especially if I need to shred Champions or bosses, only I use it on a Blade Barrage build. Never lets me down, I'm usually top damage to boss in every team just using Malfeseance+Lucky Pants. And the build can take on all 3 Champions: Overload and Barrier from Indebted+Voltshot, and Apex, and Malfeseance for Unstoppable
I love that aztecross has altar egos!
the icy helldiver looked super fun to play
That second build was remarkable to me.
Bombardiers Lament is such a weird off meta combo.
I myself use Renewals and Lament in certain GM's. That 65% Damage Resist and enemies having 50% less inside the nade is just too good.
Using a Lead from Gold/Demo Riptide as my primary since a kill with certain special weapons from certain weapon types listed by the dude below grants 20% grenade energy and since I have 2 Heavy Ammo finders on + Stasis Siphon, constant ammo for both Lament and Riptide and constant uptime on Damage reducing Duskfields.
And Indebted Kindness with Lead from Gold and Deconstruct.
Also helps that Special weapons deal 10% more damage to frozen targets.
By the way its not all special weapons that great 20% energy. Specifically it's only Snipers, Shotguns, Glaives, and Fusion Rifles that do. So a Grenade Launcher and Trace Rifles will still only be 10%.
@@ROFLWAFFLELAWL4 Yeah, should've specified. But still, running those specific weapon types, double Lead from Gold weapons with Lament and double Heavy Ammo Finder works surprisingly well.
really hoping tessellation's catalyst gives it subclass verbs, that first build on hunter would've gone sooooo much better if it could self proc unravel or even sever.
these were certainly the builds of all time
12:00 isn't this background music the one Slimecicle used for "Jort Storm"? lol
would like to see some of the winners go head to head in a bracket or something
Saint 14 helm plus edge of action
Truly praying bungie doesn’t nerf Orpheus rig again because idk what the hell is causing it but man if you use it right you get your super dam near instantly for just damaging tethered targets let alone you get a kill it goes further. While also loved that stasis lament build I totally forgot you can make your dodge slow enemies then bombadiers bomb will be that last nudge to to freeze them then you can shatter them at will. I will say I don’t know but it looked like you could really use that fragment that gives you a shield for picking up a shard to help with survival.
Im glad im not the only one seeing people die in the "cheese corner". As a void hunter, im constantly having to go invis and revive people over there.
you too ?? As a Titan with Heartshadow, I have to revive people and do the arc balls too
The Stasis Bombardiers build surprised me, but it's definitely one where you either play well or you feed your brains out and eat all the rez tokens.
There is no in-between.
Does a harmonic loader mod speed up the alt fire grenade-absorption animation for Tessellation?
For the strand explosion using all strand weapons with foetracer and 2 grenade charges would just work better, more damage and better nades with suspend and constant x4 damage on all your weapons
Anti-cross makes me laugh every time 😂
Aztecross is that one teammate we all have who strafes in a well during rocket damage
Stasis hunter is actually so damn good right now. I use it in GM all the time
Man, if i knew of this. Id pf submitted my Wormgod Swash Glaive Titan build.
Glaives do proc Wormgod Caress and with Strand Subclass for three melee charges.
Plus Swash x5 with Wormgods proc is ludicrous since you melee kill with Glaive to get the buffs running.
I use Traveler’s Chosen for abilities cooldown and Throne Cleaver.
True Melee Build with access to suspend for more consistent melee kill chaining
What is the „build“ on that 3rd Hunter void build? Use tether and Orpheus rig? Malfeasance could be exchanged with any other exotic (hand-)gun.
Have to think of it this way. Bungie already has tested and knows what works. So the pieces are out there, it's just up to us to figure out how to combine them. Configure multiple for different activities or encounters. Easily swap between them. It is fun to experiment. Much better than D1 maxing level out at 33 and everyone looking the same with that Crota gear. Come along way folks.
I really like your stream Aztecross!!
One of my favourite creators to be honest. You got the gab bro. 👌🏻
So i won't be submitting any builds through fear of being banned. 🤷🏻
Yoo why does the music go so hard in the second build lol. Straight from an 80's training montage
Is that jort storm at 12:03 for the background music
Bro I did not realize bombardiers actually went that hard with the elemental effects
You know you can pick up the ghost fragments for extra percentage in the ghost room? At one point you had like 40% progress sitting on the ground
31:41 bro said he has no choice but enjoys pressing that ban button
12:00 He really had Jortstorm playing in the background.
What handcannon is that with the void hunter build?
For anyone trying to use tessellation, I have a tip. (I’m a weirdo who makes builds to MAKE exotics good rather than around a good exotic and force myself to learn how to make it not feel miserable lol) if you’re going for a build like this, and you simply want grenade up time max for Tess and nothing else, in down time preload the nade and sit on it. The animation is long and clunky. If you’re on controller and have special reload bound to double tap, you can’t do it without being fully loaded. And a few other issues that take the fun away. Treat it like a burst weapon. It’s not a great fusion, but put on a strand loader mod. Stick it in your back pocket. Use heavy, primary, and abilities. When it reloads naturally stuff your nade in it and pocket it again. It also has super juiced up demo so as long as you get 3-5 kills you’ll have a full nade charge back. I’ll often throw both my nades out then pull it out and burst a group down and get both back and repeat.
It makes it feel so much stronger and using it much more fun if you treat it like a GL or something that you pocket to use situationally then pocket it again
Cross ❌ u r legend bigger than Hollywood more popupal than Disneyland keep up the amazing job respect brother...
is Necrotic grip / thorn build good?
The warlock strand super kinda reminds me of a brood mother.
Cross im still waiting on an onslaught build for the warlock
People should only go in that dang cheese spot if they are soloing, if other people are around the enemies will lock on....
That stasis build could be nuts if u found a way to give it more survivability feel like it has a crazy high skill ceiling
Bungie is adding something called "Frost Armour" for stasis in the final shape iirc. Should help it a lot hopefully
I submitted this build and I’ve been fine tuning it since then. For now you can probably use a turnabout weapon (overshield when popping shields) & “proximity war” on the class item to give a quick overshield when finishing an enemy.
damn it cross ... u make that look like fun bro