Apostle Z.A Ntiwane, thank you for your humbleness while chatting with someone who is twisting the word of God for his own benefits. King Saul died because he had consulted with the medium. God the father of my Lord Jesus Christ clearly stated that we are not supposed to consult with the mediums, palm readers, fortune tellers e.t.c. As the Apostle has clarified, you are not even sure that the spirit you are consulting represents or looks out for you. The scripture mentioned by magejageja of, "Lazarus and the rich man scripture clearly shows that once you are dead you cannot come back and warn your family or bring good tidings". People are supposed to listen to the servant of God through Christ Jesus (Not false prophets). Now again if the scripture shows that you cannot come back and speak to the living when you are dead. Exactly who was speaking during the consultation of king Saul. Apst. Ntiwane had already explained this clearly. I am not saying our dead relatives are demons but demons are able to transfigure themselves as our passed love ones in order to trick humans (especially black people) into doing things for them. You must ask yourself, how come the African people who were taken during slavery are not affected by "ämadlozi"? The Bible also didn't come with white people, that is the misconception that you are taught and because you refuse to read the bible yourself and deny the only Way and Truth which is Christ Jesus, you shall remain blind. The Bible itself mentions a black person reading the bible and one of the disciples of Christ Jesus explains to him further. No believer of Christ Jesus prays to any person mentioned by magejageja. I do not pray to Paul, Abraham or any other person. Christs Jesus, Himself said we do not need to approach Him in order to talk to our Heavenly Father God, He said we have direct access. Anyone that tells you that you have to go through dead people in order to speak to God is misleading you and wasting your time. Anyone that also tells you that you have to slaughter an animal to please some dead people for your life to succeed is also wasting your money and time. Jesus Christ became a living sacrifice for all those who will believe in Him, if you still think the blood of animals carries more weight than that of Jesus Christ you are surely mistaken. Anyone that says, he/she is being used by God and still preaches that you are cursed or have a generational curse through your family or father or mother is a liar. The Word of God said Jesus Christ became a curse for us. So that doesn't apply to you. Anyone that denies Jesus Christ is an anti-Christ. Any person that says God gave him/her the gift in order to make money out of it (Wathi Unkulunkulu iyona nanto ezongiphilisa, njengoba behlezi besho) is a liar. God said, freely you have received, freely you shall give. We all have gifts from God, it depends on which side you have chosen to pursue. God the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ assigned Him to be our Redeemer. He didn't say for black Africans you will go through ancestors. Jesus Christ the only Way. Don't be fooled by people who are after your money saying they are helping you. The sad part is that even in churches pastors are after people's money, but the truth shall be revealed very soon. Black people, please wake up. You are already at disadvantage in your lives don't allow men to mislead you. No person working for God the Father/Creator can quote the Bible and still speak against His only Son. God said we must listen to Jesus Christ. If you say, you are not Jewish and Jesus Christ was for Jews. Here is the truth from the Bible. According to the Oxford dictionary, Gentiles means a person who is not Jewish. Now since you are not Jews, it means you are Gentiles according to your understanding. The Word of God says in "Galatians 3:14 - That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith." If you believe in the Word of God, How is Jesus Christ not for black people or any other person who is not Jewish then? The scripture is saying Jesus Christ is also for Gentiles. Galatians 3:28 _ There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. We need more of these conversations. I pray that the father of my Lord Jesus Christ can show Mercy over you, so your eyes can be opened and know the Truth which is Christ Jesus. Even people who read the Bible and pray constantly are still confused about which way to go. It saddens my spirit, what is happening especially to African black people. God is faithful, Merciful and Lovingkindness. He is also Longsuffering that you repent. Pray and ask Him for direction. Read the Bible and also ask God to reveal the Truth. Be Hungry for Truth and it shall be revealed to you. God the Father of my Lord Jesus Christ knows each and every person's heart, we cannot trick Him. There was a time when God allowed people to do as they please but that time is over.
Ancestors were sinners like us how can you consult a sinner 😢how are they going to give us what we ask for God is the creator and they didn't die for our sins Jesus did
Thank you BabNtiwane for preaching the true gospel of God. We need more people like you. Our God is jealous and doesn't like to be shared as per Exodus 20 (10 commandments). And preaching prosperity instead of true gospel is totally misleading people from getting to know the truth which is Repentance, seeking God face and obey His Ten Commandments. Matthew 6:33 = But Seek first the kingdom of God and His righteousness and all things will be added to you....🙌🙌🙏🔥 I pray God have mercy on Prophet Magejageja and show Him the true revelation. when 2 Corinthians 11:14 tells us that “Satan disguises himself as an angel of light,” it means that Satan capitalizes on our love of the light in order to deceive. Satan appears as a creature of light to draw us to himself and his lies.
Wayibeka indaba ka Nkulunkulu baba wase EC yhoo ay ugcotshiwe baba onezindlebe makezwe, lo Magejageja ubuswa amandla obumnyama engathi u Nkulunkulu angamzwela one of the days
These discussions will expose how much we still need to know and understand about this world that progressed from what is simple to what is complex. From when the world was in animism and progressed to monotheism, and how do we separate beliefs in mythology, mysticism and mystery...
Read again and again the 'Book of 1 Samuel 28 until you get Revelation. Apostle Tiwane thank you for preaching uncompromised word of God. Its not easy standing for the truth. I'm reminded of Elijah. God bless you indeed. Please share the man of God contacts. Shalom🙏
There's a difference between worshiping and recognizing...Mr Magejageja u must learn to differentiate between those two...When God says "because of David or Abraham"...He emphasize the recognition. Prosperity gospel will take u nowhere, u must preach the gospel of Jesus Christ and tell ur congregation that He is coming back soon, people must repent and worship only God.
@@avelagasa2927 Thats why he's even saying he was preaching prosperity but he was poor. Who told him that preaching prosperity will make one rich. This guy is really confused and he wants God to fit in his way of doing things.
Ngiyamvuma umprofeti umagejageja, indeed before on old testament we were uncertain of ancestors as Christians but when Jesus christ said we will live even if we die, that brought more light to my confusion.
Huge respect to the Apostle, he speaks such truth. We live in an age of such deception where people turn away from the truth to listen to deceitful spirits and teachings of demons.... May God continue to reveal His truth
The only problem we are having is that we want to forcefully say all people who acknowledge their ancestors worship them. I acknowledge my ancestors but I worship and pray to God. Ancestors are not God therefore I cannot worship them, I acknowledge the existence of my ancestors, as the people in the Bible acknowledge theirs.
This "prophet" has an intelligent argument. I pray though that he's not leading a Christian church but a group of like minded people. The book of Jude warns about such. Even the epistles of the Apostle Paul
Ecclesiastes 9:5-6 5 For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten. 6 Also their love, and their hatred, and their envy, is now perished; neither have they any more a portion for ever in any thing that is done under the sun.
In the african spirituality. Only the strong lives. If you believe in ancestors with little knowledge and yours are powerless others will gain power through your struggles. Don't worship or prays them you will open ways to stronger evils to come and attack u
Ubaba Umagejageja uyageja impela, The dead has nothing in common with the living, beware of familiar spirits, they are familiar with the scripture they are familiar with the world they are familiar with your family and your life, someone who is dead is dead the spirit go where it came from and the flesh back to where it cames from never to be connected to each other until the judgment day the first confusion is the going to hell theory you were not created in hell nothing from you came from hell so when you die it's a reverse of what happened in the beginning what came from the Most High YAH goes back to Him what came from the ground goes back to the ground and wait for Judgment day
Yah neh prophet M is always leading ppl away from the truth...where in the bible that says we must go to Israel worship their ancestors....but thanks to the apostle ntiwane
Awulandeli,bekuba netrip yokuya Kwa Israel once a year.bantu bebehamba bathi bayobona ithuna lika Jesu,umageja akathi ebhaybhelini.ukhuluma ngamakholwa abehamba aya kobona ithuna lika jesu.not kuthi uthe ebhaybhelini
Going or not going to Israel that's change the fact kutsi amandlozi they have to be worshiped...for I dnt worship amandlozi or anything in these world...but I worship the living God thru jesus christ that my stand...unless u want us to debut?
Mageja, Christianity has never said people must go and pray in the graves of Apostles in Israel, Nations represented by dead people in heaven, changing the bad spirit ah, that is not our doctrine. Let me help you. Judaism is not the gospel of Christians. We who believe in Jesus Christ, we have the Spirit of God not of Paul, Peter or other Apostles.
Thanks Mfundisi may the good Lord gives you more wisdom.Sorry Prophet what you say is not from God and God does not work with spirits of the dead.I wish God Almighty will help you see things according to His word
I agree with you.Necromancy is the practice of communicating with the dead.It was not Samuel who spoke because the one that has crossed over can not communicate with the living.The 'prophet' has no business with God's word.He is not on the side of God,just like Balaam.
Inkinga is that you people are judgemental,umuntu aka believele entweni emsebenzelayo , if usindisiwe nd iyak’sebenzela stick to that ,nisyeke thina sideshe!!
To mageja what made God not to speak to Saul until he went to a witch doctor and what happened after that why didn't he continue explaining?😱Saul did not follow God's instructions
I Kings 18:21 NKJV [21] And Elijah came to all the people, and said, “How long will you falter between two opinions? If the Lord is God, follow Him; but if Baal(amadlozi), follow him.” But the people answered him not a word.
The “Prophet” has exposed himself at the end when he said I was preaching prosperity gospel and he was poor but as soon as he started consulting mediums and the familiar spirits of the dead then he become prosperous. To me this is not the message of Yeshua and salvation we should not rely on earthly things which are temporarily but invest in internal heavenly things. Lastly this program is accommodating part 2 with the “Prophet” only but not the Apostle why?
Who is the man in the blue shirt he is speaking the truth i want and need to listen to him on this matter this man hold alot of truth but they were focusing more on the guy who accept such a lie.
Our troubles begin when we MisIdentify ourselves as Africans, I am not African, I Am I Am, Ndinguye oNdinguye. We need to realise that Ondinguye (God) is our Father, we were not made to worship Him but BE LIKE HIM. I do understand the legacy that has come with these scriptures from the Bible, however Your Power lies not on the living nor the DEAD, but in realising that when Jesus says ..."I and my father are one, he who has seen me has seen my father" We are eternal we should look at how to become like our Father more and more. A lion can live among dogs, thinking it is a dog, until a lion comes and shows it that it is a lion. Your Power lies not in the dead nor living but in the eternal knowledge that in our lowest form: We are the gods of this world.
Amen I got saved from a religion but into understanding I'm a spiritual being created by an infinite being As an African and all human creation we were made to inhabit the world and have dominion of it as we are made in the likeness of God(Yahweh) to live for him on earth
@@bongokuhlemiya1170 ok. Just in case you didn’t know, God is the One who saves us through Jesus Christ. If He says He turns His back on you, who then will save you? Just saying.
I just want to say there's no right or wrong belief so let us not judge each other if someone wants to be Christian then let them be then if someone wants to believe in ancestors then let them be then if someone believes in them both then let them be... We will see everything after life such arguments never ends because each one of us wants to defend our own belief and everyone has their own interpretation of the Bible so I think it's best if everyone read the Bible on their own and provide your own interpretation... I think that Bible is the book of guidance so have your own interpretation and let us not judge each other's belief and sometimes people belief what works for them so if Christianity works for you then take that path and if ancestors work for you then take that path if both path works for you then go for it... Everything will be clear after life
There is no such, God values those who cry out and defend the truth, even when its not popular amongst the masses. such statements are made by people who do not want division but division must be there between the unholy and the holy. The gospel/bible separates people, friends, families etc and that is Gods intended purpose with it if you read it carefully Ezekiel 9:4 And the Lord said unto him, Go through the midst of the city, through the midst of Jerusalem, and set a mark upon the foreheads of the men that sigh and that cry for all the abominations that be done in the midst thereof. 5 And to the others he said in mine hearing, Go ye after him through the city, and smite: let not your eye spare, neither have ye pity: 6 Slay utterly old and young, both maids, and little children, and women: but come not near any man upon whom is the mark; and begin at my sanctuary. Then they began at the ancient men which were before the house.
That's your belief so don't say there's no such thing... I'm sticking to my belief then stick to yours... If you believe the Bible then stick to it don't judge others... Because really we don't know who's in the right path
@@nikiwengubane1397 but you cannot say there is no right or wrong, we can't be afraid to confront people or enter into arguments with them, all because we ourselves don't want to be confronted about what we believe, we have to allow our beliefs to be challenged without throwing a fit, if everytime our beliefs are challenged we throw a fit then we need to be suspicious of what we believe.
Okay I hear you but what I'm saying is that during confrontation one cannot say the other belief is wrong just because they want to justify their own beliefs
Prophet magejageja.....on the scripture when saul went to consult sangoma....i had always been asking the same question how a sangoma can raise Samuel the prophet of God?
Dr 🤣🤣🤣 ai I give up...in theology....there is nothing in the bible that talks about lawful death and unlawful death stop misleading the people... you are also speaking about things not relevant to support your argument.
Prophet misquoted the Saul story wow. Aingeke uNkulunkulu wayengasakhulumi because Saul did not keep the word of the Lord, read 1Samuel chapter 15.. God's sport departed from Saul because he disobeyed his command. And made it worse by lying about it.. Magejageja is deceiving people, manipulating the word of God to suit how he wants the scripture to mean.
And the way people are uplifting his presentation 😥 I'm not sure if people read the bible on this subject. Seems like most on just on rhetorical word play just to soothe their beliefs in familiar spirits. You can't go past Leviticus and Deuteronomy. They are called FAMILIAR SPIRITS for a reason... because they take on the appearance of the ones who once lived in order to deceive. For the record, magejageja must remember that Paul cast out such a Spirit in a girl in Acts 16v16-, so the fact that what the girl said about Paul and his fellow brethren was factual, was not a validation of the fact that God was the source/line of communication.
@@kamogelothatomonareng8646 100% the source of where the communication came from matters. People are busy getting excited about what uMagejageja is saying whereas they should be reading the scriptures. Even the Devil knows the Bible that's how he tried to tempt Jesus, he used the scriptures.
@@dontseki6730 Everything he says. Coz that's opposite to what the bible says. 1.You don't consult the dead. 2. There's only one God. 3. There are many gods among men🤷🏻♂️ only Jesus is the one. Once you consult the dead then you just had another god therefore you broke the commandent
13 ....And the woman said to Saul, “I saw a[a] .” 14 So he said to her, “What is his form?” And she said, “, and he is covered with a mantle.” And that it was Samuel, and he stooped with his face to the ground and bowed down. A medium saw a spirit coming from the ground and that spirit looked like an old man.. Nowhere where is says it was Samuel that came up, it is only Saul that perceived in that way.
Pastor , go on explaining .The Spirit of God is with you.Reveal the Truth because Jesus said we shall know the Truth and the Truth shall set set you free.
U clean umagejageja and explains it kahle futhi 🔥🔥 worse part the pastor is agreeing with him kodwa ufuna ukuphika 🤣🤣🤣🤣 ngeke ukholwe izidalwa zakomunye umuzi zikhona ezakini ✋✋✋✋
❤Esh Prophet Magejageja for eversince I listened this Interview, I followed you during then, you have branged me alive as a man who is a Christian but I was always see a Mistry in the way we worship GOD
Clearly all those years when you were preaching Salvation you were just imitating others. Once you have an encounter with Jesus there is no turning back. Jesus Christ is Lord and Only him. By the way if you don't believe in him stop quoting the Bible to justify your evil motives.
Either he is right or the the bible is wrong... Deuteronomy 18:10-12 [10]There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth divination, or an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch, [11]Or a charmer, or a consulter with familiar spirits, or a wizard, or a necromancer. [12]For all that do these things are an abomination unto the LORD: and because of these abominations the LORD thy God doth drive them out from before thee.
@@nyikofumani7010 I irrevocably agree with Sinethemba. Every man and woman born of the Spirit is being conformed into the image of the lovely Lord Jesus. This sanctification process, starts at rebirth, when we are born of the Spirit, through faith in Christ. It is an ongoing process that will be brought to full completion and beautiful perfection in the day that Christ takes us to be with Him (the Rapture). God alone started the work in our life by faith when we were born again. Only God can continue His work of sanctification during our earthly life, and only He can finish the good work He started, when we were declared righteous, by faith - for in no sense can a man make himself perfect - for by works of the flesh will no man living be justified, sanctified, or glorified. The work of salvation belongs to God alone. Paul knew that when God begins a good work in a new-born believer, He will most certainly bring it to completion (Philippians 1 v 6). In other words, if one is saved (Jesus is the only way) God will finish the work in him. (read the Sermon on the Mount and Luke 14, Jesus lays out the terms of discipleship). Paul further says that we are to examine ourselves. “Examine yourselves to see whether you are in the faith; test yourselves. Do you not realize that Christ Jesus is in you-unless, of course, you fail the test?” 2 Corinthians 13 v 5 In summary, this false prophet never counted the cost (Luke 14) and he could never have been saved (born again). This guy is / was a false prophet! “Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. You shall know them by their fruits.”
We should never be moved by such people children of God. It is written that that such people will come and deceive many, we must stay alert and pray that God's people must be saved. People want to hear what makes them feel good regardless on how much they disobey God. We were chosen before the creation of everything and we will stand firm and we shall never be moved by anything or anyone remember greater the one that is in us than the one that is in the world.
Ezekiel 9:4 And the Lord said unto him, Go through the midst of the city, through the midst of Jerusalem, and set a mark upon the foreheads of the men that sigh and that cry for all the abominations that be done in the midst thereof. 5 And to the others he said in mine hearing, Go ye after him through the city, and smite: let not your eye spare, neither have ye pity: 6 Slay utterly old and young, both maids, and little children, and women: but come not near any man upon whom is the mark; and begin at my sanctuary. Then they began at the ancient men which were before the house.
You should have asked me. Bible was written by +40 people. 3 different continents, different language and time scale. Arabic, Greek and Hebrew. Africa it's included in those 3 continents. It took 1500 years to complete the bible. God is the author of it. People where his writers. Bible is the oldest book in the entire world. And it's found in non-fiction books. Making it to be true. There are so many evidence that supports what bible said some before science proved them.
@@kallymashigo6532 says who and why should we trust their narrative coz I sense so much of exploitation..especially on "slaves obey your master " is that how we came to slavery?especially coz it's still happening now but only on black folks 💁🏾♀️
@@sukumackenzie8054 you rely on your senses just as you stated. Rely in truth not what you want to hear. There's some many evidence out there that supports what bible says but people want to hear what they want to hear and you can't change that.
In Deuteronomy 18vs 9--14 the Bible made it clear that God does not allow those who believe in him to consult the dead or enquirer to the witch doctors or sangomas , for they fall under Detestable practices to him. In verse 12 it's stated that anyone who does this is Detestable to the LORD . And in verse 14 it says -- But as for you the LORD your God has not permitted you to do so
No no no Proff Magejageja izandla phezulu Baba🙏🙏🙏,usimele kulaba abathi asilahle ubuthina.uJehova Uma ezokubusisa ukubusisa ngokoKhokho bakho...Ngyabonga kakhuluuu
Magejageja is my favorite prophet. I actually followed this podcast because I saw Magejageja.
Me too ❤
Ay people they are always
Amen baba Tiwani❤❤❤
Apostle Z.A Ntiwane, thank you for your humbleness while chatting with someone who is twisting the word of God for his own benefits.
King Saul died because he had consulted with the medium. God the father of my Lord Jesus Christ clearly stated that we are not supposed to consult with the mediums, palm readers, fortune tellers e.t.c. As the Apostle has clarified, you are not even sure that the spirit you are consulting represents or looks out for you.
The scripture mentioned by magejageja of, "Lazarus and the rich man scripture clearly shows that once you are dead you cannot come back and warn your family or bring good tidings". People are supposed to listen to the servant of God through Christ Jesus (Not false prophets).
Now again if the scripture shows that you cannot come back and speak to the living when you are dead. Exactly who was speaking during the consultation of king Saul. Apst. Ntiwane had already explained this clearly.
I am not saying our dead relatives are demons but demons are able to transfigure themselves as our passed love ones in order to trick humans (especially black people) into doing things for them.
You must ask yourself, how come the African people who were taken during slavery are not affected by "ämadlozi"?
The Bible also didn't come with white people, that is the misconception that you are taught and because you refuse to read the bible yourself and deny the only Way and Truth which is Christ Jesus, you shall remain blind. The Bible itself mentions a black person reading the bible and one of the disciples of Christ Jesus explains to him further.
No believer of Christ Jesus prays to any person mentioned by magejageja. I do not pray to Paul, Abraham or any other person. Christs Jesus, Himself said we do not need to approach Him in order to talk to our Heavenly Father God, He said we have direct access.
Anyone that tells you that you have to go through dead people in order to speak to God is misleading you and wasting your time. Anyone that also tells you that you have to slaughter an animal to please some dead people for your life to succeed is also wasting your money and time. Jesus Christ became a living sacrifice for all those who will believe in Him, if you still think the blood of animals carries more weight than that of Jesus Christ you are surely mistaken.
Anyone that says, he/she is being used by God and still preaches that you are cursed or have a generational curse through your family or father or mother is a liar. The Word of God said Jesus Christ became a curse for us. So that doesn't apply to you. Anyone that denies Jesus Christ is an anti-Christ.
Any person that says God gave him/her the gift in order to make money out of it (Wathi Unkulunkulu iyona nanto ezongiphilisa, njengoba behlezi besho) is a liar. God said, freely you have received, freely you shall give.
We all have gifts from God, it depends on which side you have chosen to pursue. God the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ assigned Him to be our Redeemer. He didn't say for black Africans you will go through ancestors. Jesus Christ the only Way.
Don't be fooled by people who are after your money saying they are helping you. The sad part is that even in churches pastors are after people's money, but the truth shall be revealed very soon.
Black people, please wake up. You are already at disadvantage in your lives don't allow men to mislead you.
No person working for God the Father/Creator can quote the Bible and still speak against His only Son. God said we must listen to Jesus Christ.
If you say, you are not Jewish and Jesus Christ was for Jews. Here is the truth from the Bible. According to the Oxford dictionary, Gentiles means a person who is not Jewish. Now since you are not Jews, it means you are Gentiles according to your understanding.
The Word of God says in "Galatians 3:14 - That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith." If you believe in the Word of God, How is Jesus Christ not for black people or any other person who is not Jewish then? The scripture is saying Jesus Christ is also for Gentiles.
Galatians 3:28 _ There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.
We need more of these conversations.
I pray that the father of my Lord Jesus Christ can show Mercy over you, so your eyes can be opened and know the Truth which is Christ Jesus.
Even people who read the Bible and pray constantly are still confused about which way to go. It saddens my spirit, what is happening especially to African black people.
God is faithful, Merciful and Lovingkindness. He is also Longsuffering that you repent. Pray and ask Him for direction. Read the Bible and also ask God to reveal the Truth. Be Hungry for Truth and it shall be revealed to you. God the Father of my Lord Jesus Christ knows each and every person's heart, we cannot trick Him.
There was a time when God allowed people to do as they please but that time is over.
Mxxxm
Amen
Well said
@@bongisiphophillip1100 kkkkkk
When Jesus was seen by Peter with Moses and Elijah, what was that. ?
Ancestors were sinners like us how can you consult a sinner 😢how are they going to give us what we ask for God is the creator and they didn't die for our sins Jesus did
Apostle Tiwane may God keep strengthening you ,
This prophet is out of order and I am trying to understand what he's saying but Jesus said in John 14:6.
MAGEJAGEJA HAS MY RESPECT💯💯💯💯💯💯💯
Deutoronomy 18 from vs 9, it says it all, lokhu kwamadlozi kuyisinengiso kuNkulunkulu
Ngokwazi kwami idlozi unkulunkulu wabantu abaxabene noNkulunkulu ophilayo
God bless you
Thank you BabNtiwane for preaching the true gospel of God. We need more people like you. Our God is jealous and doesn't like to be shared as per Exodus 20 (10 commandments). And preaching prosperity instead of true gospel is totally misleading people from getting to know the truth which is Repentance, seeking God face and obey His Ten Commandments. Matthew 6:33 = But Seek first the kingdom of God and His righteousness and all things will be added to you....🙌🙌🙏🔥
I pray God have mercy on Prophet Magejageja and show Him the true revelation. when 2 Corinthians 11:14 tells us that “Satan disguises himself as an angel of light,” it means that Satan capitalizes on our love of the light in order to deceive. Satan appears as a creature of light to draw us to himself and his lies.
Unkulunkulu akubusise baba
Well said!!
I like how the Pastor is explaining everything here. This is powerful. Onendlebe makezwe
Prophet uyihlabe eskhonkosini akuthwale njxlo uMvelinqangi baba sibuyisele kokwethu usivula amehlo i salute you baba maGejageja🙏🤝🤝
Oksalayo we proud of amadlozi
Nobody comes to the father without it being through Jesus
Repent from ur sins pls before it's too late God said there's such things as amadlozi those are just familiar spirits misleading ppl like you
Wayibeka indaba ka Nkulunkulu baba wase EC yhoo ay ugcotshiwe baba onezindlebe makezwe, lo Magejageja ubuswa amandla obumnyama engathi u Nkulunkulu angamzwela one of the days
These discussions will expose how much we still need to know and understand about this world that progressed from what is simple to what is complex. From when the world was in animism and progressed to monotheism, and how do we separate beliefs in mythology, mysticism and mystery...
Read again and again the 'Book of 1 Samuel 28 until you get Revelation.
Apostle Tiwane thank you for preaching uncompromised word of God. Its not easy standing for the truth. I'm reminded of Elijah. God bless you indeed. Please share the man of God contacts. Shalom🙏
Hi sister, Elijah imparts his spirit to Elisha, so does Moses to his tribe members, isn't that the same principle?
This man states the truth, big up Magejageja.
There's a difference between worshiping and recognizing...Mr Magejageja u must learn to differentiate between those two...When God says "because of David or Abraham"...He emphasize the recognition. Prosperity gospel will take u nowhere, u must preach the gospel of Jesus Christ and tell ur congregation that He is coming back soon, people must repent and worship only God.
Magejageja is a man of truth, badla ulimi mayesebatshela kahle
Nowhere in the Bible are we expected or encouraged to go to the graves of the Israelites or the saints. I don't claim to know the whole book.
@@avelagasa2927 Thats why he's even saying he was preaching prosperity but he was poor. Who told him that preaching prosperity will make one rich. This guy is really confused and he wants God to fit in his way of doing things.
@@avelagasa2927 Jesus died a long time ago and he is not coming back
Amen syabonga baba wase East London ume njalo naleyo message yakho siyakuzwa baba iNkosi ikubusise.
Amen nceku
THANK YOU Prophet.
Ngiyamvuma umprofeti umagejageja, indeed before on old testament we were uncertain of ancestors as Christians but when Jesus christ said we will live even if we die, that brought more light to my confusion.
Baba magejageja iqiniso limile baba unkulunkulu namadlozi bakvikele thina eskholelwa eqinisweni syakuzwa🙏🙏
Huge respect to the Apostle, he speaks such truth. We live in an age of such deception where people turn away from the truth to listen to deceitful spirits and teachings of demons....
May God continue to reveal His truth
Hay umageja inkunzi, ukhuluma amaqiniso odwa🙌🙌
The only problem we are having is that we want to forcefully say all people who acknowledge their ancestors worship them. I acknowledge my ancestors but I worship and pray to God. Ancestors are not God therefore I cannot worship them, I acknowledge the existence of my ancestors, as the people in the Bible acknowledge theirs.
Acknowledging and consulting/seeking Ancestors for their help are 2 different things. Nowhere in the Bible was the dead seeked or consulted
Powerful ntiwane
Amen pastor 🙏kuyezwakala
Amen, true Pastor, the devil confuses people
Which devil?☝️
I prayed for my son out of the grave tata Jesus is living
Noma ngihamba noMagejageja straight to the point
This "prophet" has an intelligent argument. I pray though that he's not leading a Christian church but a group of like minded people. The book of Jude warns about such. Even the epistles of the Apostle Paul
Well said. Indeed we were warned about such people 🙌🏼
Amen Bab Ntiwane. " Abasemhlabeni abaxhumani nabangasekho lithi iZwi abalalele abaprofethi noMose"
Thank you pastor.
Bantu bakithi esimkhonzayo akekho encwadini uphilakithi ngaphakathi namathonga okhokhobethu thanks baba magejageja🤝🤝 lv u
This is another form of Messi vs Ronaldo debate 😀😀😀
Ecclesiastes 9:5-6
5 For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten.
6 Also their love, and their hatred, and their envy, is now perished; neither have they any more a portion for ever in any thing that is done under the sun.
Thank you Prophet have learned a lot
I pray for magejageja to come back to the real gospel not the agenda of misleading ppl....its not too late mageja buya kuJesu
Ndiyamba nawe magejageja
Amen to that
Thank u for opening our eyes😊
Just saw this video today, thank you prophet for your words....I have learned
Not all who say Lord Lord will enter the Kingdom of heaven, only those who do the will of My Father in heaven.
Amen❤
God bless you
In the african spirituality. Only the strong lives. If you believe in ancestors with little knowledge and yours are powerless others will gain power through your struggles. Don't worship or prays them you will open ways to stronger evils to come and attack u
Magejageja always left something to me a prophet indeed
The gates of hell shall not prevail against us the children of God
The TRUTH has been spoken by the Pastor here 👏👏✝️
Which Pastor because there are two
@@zain2432 The true man of God.
Sibambene nemimoya yobumnyama ekhathini nothing nenyama negazi.amen.
Satan is white and he has always deceived us in Africa
Siyezwa Baba. Sicela uke usichazele ngencwadi UMshumayeli 12 verse 7. Thank you.✌️
Ubaba Umagejageja uyageja impela, The dead has nothing in common with the living, beware of familiar spirits, they are familiar with the scripture they are familiar with the world they are familiar with your family and your life, someone who is dead is dead the spirit go where it came from and the flesh back to where it cames from never to be connected to each other until the judgment day the first confusion is the going to hell theory you were not created in hell nothing from you came from hell so when you die it's a reverse of what happened in the beginning what came from the Most High YAH goes back to Him what came from the ground goes back to the ground and wait for Judgment day
That's true my brother ugeja impela Sangoma umagejageja
Indeed sir he doesn't have a context
This is very true, the dead know nothing.
Lol ugeja ukugeja kwangempela
Ugeja impela umagejageja.
Ubuthakathi and amadlozi are 2 different things tho
I love this
Yah neh prophet M is always leading ppl away from the truth...where in the bible that says we must go to Israel worship their ancestors....but thanks to the apostle ntiwane
Awulandeli,bekuba netrip yokuya Kwa Israel once a year.bantu bebehamba bathi bayobona ithuna lika Jesu,umageja akathi ebhaybhelini.ukhuluma ngamakholwa abehamba aya kobona ithuna lika jesu.not kuthi uthe ebhaybhelini
Going or not going to Israel that's change the fact kutsi amandlozi they have to be worshiped...for I dnt worship amandlozi or anything in these world...but I worship the living God thru jesus christ that my stand...unless u want us to debut?
Magejageja dankie ntwana🤝 engikuthanda ngawe uyazazi fut uyazizwa kit uthini
Mageja, Christianity has never said people must go and pray in the graves of Apostles in Israel,
Nations represented by dead people in heaven, changing the bad spirit ah, that is not our doctrine. Let me help you. Judaism is not the gospel of Christians. We who believe in Jesus Christ, we have the Spirit of God not of Paul, Peter or other Apostles.
Sound
Nor he did not say let go and pray on the Graves of apostles kwa Israel
Crystal clear 👌👌👌
Amen nceku
There is a difference between the time before Christ and After Christ.
So powerful
Amen Ps youve clarified, believe what you want believe
I wish one day magejageja vs muziwezigwili 🔥🔥🔥🔥 kuyoqhuz'umentshiso
Andimva DokoteLa, phambili Prophet Magejageja mphambili.
Dokotela ugcwele yonke indawo, andiyiva Tu! iPoint yakhe
People of God plz pray for magejageja I know him ,God want to use him
Ola Mgejos .cha iNkosi izokuhawukela
Thanks Mfundisi may the good Lord gives you more wisdom.Sorry Prophet what you say is not from God and God does not work with spirits of the dead.I wish God Almighty will help you see things according to His word
The reason for the Christ to come is due to spirits that left the body without coming to God. He says these spirit should repent and come to me
Powerful to that my sister. Actually this false prophet needs to be born again.
I agree with you.Necromancy is the practice of communicating with the dead.It was not Samuel who spoke because the one that has crossed over can not communicate with the living.The 'prophet' has no business with God's word.He is not on the side of God,just like Balaam.
Inkinga is that you people are judgemental,umuntu aka believele entweni emsebenzelayo , if usindisiwe nd iyak’sebenzela stick to that ,nisyeke thina sideshe!!
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angipha amanumber akho ntokazi🙂
Syadesha yini pho smakade 😂
@@andileaydudethembatha2908 yebo idlozi nonkulunkulu
To mageja what made God not to speak to Saul until he went to a witch doctor and what happened after that why didn't he continue explaining?😱Saul did not follow God's instructions
I Kings 18:21 NKJV
[21] And Elijah came to all the people, and said, “How long will you falter between two opinions? If the Lord is God, follow Him; but if Baal(amadlozi), follow him.” But the people answered him not a word.
Prophet speaks my language
The “Prophet” has exposed himself at the end when he said I was preaching prosperity gospel and he was poor but as soon as he started consulting mediums and the familiar spirits of the dead then he become prosperous. To me this is not the message of Yeshua and salvation we should not rely on earthly things which are temporarily but invest in internal heavenly things.
Lastly this program is accommodating part 2 with the “Prophet” only but not the Apostle why?
he is not a prophet of God, We need to follwo wha the Bibles teaches us, not create our own gospel.
Who is the man in the blue shirt he is speaking the truth i want and need to listen to him on this matter this man hold alot of truth but they were focusing more on the guy who accept such a lie.
Our troubles begin when we MisIdentify ourselves as Africans, I am not African, I Am I Am, Ndinguye oNdinguye. We need to realise that Ondinguye (God) is our Father, we were not made to worship Him but BE LIKE HIM. I do understand the legacy that has come with these scriptures from the Bible, however Your Power lies not on the living nor the DEAD, but in realising that when Jesus says ..."I and my father are one, he who has seen me has seen my father" We are eternal we should look at how to become like our Father more and more. A lion can live among dogs, thinking it is a dog, until a lion comes and shows it that it is a lion. Your Power lies not in the dead nor living but in the eternal knowledge that in our lowest form: We are the gods of this world.
Amen I got saved from a religion but into understanding I'm a spiritual being created by an infinite being As an African and all human creation we were made to inhabit the world and have dominion of it as we are made in the likeness of God(Yahweh) to live for him on earth
Saul tried to speak to God, what was he supposed to do,,,,any suggestions???
You are mybestt prophet you wakeup us
this interview must continue mageja geja Ngihambe nawe baba
The female presenter has one healthy set of lungs
Hahahaha
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Eish shes noisy yo
😂😂😂😂🤭
😂😂 felt the same yoooh
The interviewer man is angry for the truth 😂😂😂🤣 look at his action guys, he even stopped the Pastor 😂🤣
When you have traditinists as presenters like the woman ,you will have those exclamations like what she does
Magejageja mfwethu 🤝danko🙏
Aish that woman is noisy yoo bishop 😂😂😂
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She is loud indeed. .😵
Lol very hey
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Good evening ,I am Evangelist MT Mojaki from Namahadi Frankfort in free state ,plz invite me to your show to discuss certain biblical doctrines
The Bible does say that you cannot be saved while practicing /consulting with the dead.
Indeed but God leaves you like he did Samuel when you do that
Where does the Bible say that?
@@bongokuhlemiya1170 Leviticus 20:6 & Deutoronomy 18:10-12
@@lloydsefanyetso2232 I do not see the words ' ...cannot be saved...' in either of these verses.
@@bongokuhlemiya1170 ok. Just in case you didn’t know, God is the One who saves us through Jesus Christ. If He says He turns His back on you, who then will save you? Just saying.
I just want to say there's no right or wrong belief so let us not judge each other if someone wants to be Christian then let them be then if someone wants to believe in ancestors then let them be then if someone believes in them both then let them be... We will see everything after life such arguments never ends because each one of us wants to defend our own belief and everyone has their own interpretation of the Bible so I think it's best if everyone read the Bible on their own and provide your own interpretation... I think that Bible is the book of guidance so have your own interpretation and let us not judge each other's belief and sometimes people belief what works for them so if Christianity works for you then take that path and if ancestors work for you then take that path if both path works for you then go for it... Everything will be clear after life
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There is no such, God values those who cry out and defend the truth, even when its not popular amongst the masses. such statements are made by people who do not want division but division must be there between the unholy and the holy. The gospel/bible separates people, friends, families etc and that is Gods intended purpose with it if you read it carefully
Ezekiel 9:4
And the Lord said unto him, Go through the midst of the city, through the midst of Jerusalem, and set a mark upon the foreheads of the men that sigh and that cry for all the abominations that be done in the midst thereof.
5 And to the others he said in mine hearing, Go ye after him through the city, and smite: let not your eye spare, neither have ye pity:
6 Slay utterly old and young, both maids, and little children, and women: but come not near any man upon whom is the mark; and begin at my sanctuary. Then they began at the ancient men which were before the house.
That's your belief so don't say there's no such thing... I'm sticking to my belief then stick to yours... If you believe the Bible then stick to it don't judge others... Because really we don't know who's in the right path
@@nikiwengubane1397 but you cannot say there is no right or wrong, we can't be afraid to confront people or enter into arguments with them, all because we ourselves don't want to be confronted about what we believe, we have to allow our beliefs to be challenged without throwing a fit, if everytime our beliefs are challenged we throw a fit then we need to be suspicious of what we believe.
Okay I hear you but what I'm saying is that during confrontation one cannot say the other belief is wrong just because they want to justify their own beliefs
Woooow I lk that Pastor he knows the wrd of God
Amen
Prophet magejageja.....on the scripture when saul went to consult sangoma....i had always been asking the same question how a sangoma can raise Samuel the prophet of God?
Who is this man with blue blazer 🤔🤗👏👏👌🙏🙆♂️
Which spirits are you using tata ?
Dr 🤣🤣🤣 ai I give up...in theology....there is nothing in the bible that talks about lawful death and unlawful death stop misleading the people... you are also speaking about things not relevant to support your argument.
Magejageja😭🙌
prophet izimfundiso xakho zishaya esikhonkosini ,uyajula ujulusise🤔🤔🤫🤫😪😪😪🥰🥰😍😍
according to the bible what happened to according to me ai sizwe esimnyama
Please which channel is this
MAGEJAGEJA I PRAY FOR YOUR DELIVERANCE. YOU NEED GOD
Hmm ungcono umhedeni kunomzalwane owile waze wayisitha sevangeli magejageja, this is very sad 😔 abadukisi bezikhathi zokugcina
This Magejageja is antichrist, umdukisi nje yhoo nge mphefumulo ka Nkulunkulu e landela lo muntu
@@kwenzokuhlemnguni6459 kuyadabukisa kakhulu bayamlandela ngoba bathanda izinto eziphathekayo
Ididi leli olishpyo
Prophet misquoted the Saul story wow. Aingeke uNkulunkulu wayengasakhulumi because Saul did not keep the word of the Lord, read 1Samuel chapter 15.. God's sport departed from Saul because he disobeyed his command. And made it worse by lying about it.. Magejageja is deceiving people, manipulating the word of God to suit how he wants the scripture to mean.
And the way people are uplifting his presentation 😥 I'm not sure if people read the bible on this subject. Seems like most on just on rhetorical word play just to soothe their beliefs in familiar spirits.
You can't go past Leviticus and Deuteronomy. They are called FAMILIAR SPIRITS for a reason... because they take on the appearance of the ones who once lived in order to deceive.
For the record, magejageja must remember that Paul cast out such a Spirit in a girl in Acts 16v16-, so the fact that what the girl said about Paul and his fellow brethren was factual, was not a validation of the fact that God was the source/line of communication.
@@kamogelothatomonareng8646 100% the source of where the communication came from matters. People are busy getting excited about what uMagejageja is saying whereas they should be reading the scriptures. Even the Devil knows the Bible that's how he tried to tempt Jesus, he used the scriptures.
Nawe nje u are lying kos 🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂 Hai nina
Uyamemeza!
The Bible states it clear don't consult the dead. That's why Jesus rose from the dead. And he said why do you seek the living one among the dead?
do you disagree with his scriptural reference or Wassup?
@@dontseki6730 Everything he says. Coz that's opposite to what the bible says. 1.You don't consult the dead.
2. There's only one God.
3. There are many gods among men🤷🏻♂️ only Jesus is the one. Once you consult the dead then you just had another god therefore you broke the commandent
@@kallymashigo6532 I see
@@kallymashigo6532 I disagree with you but I am glad your faith is firm
@@kallymashigo6532 Lastly....God bless bro🙏👑
13 ....And the woman said to Saul, “I saw a[a] .”
14 So he said to her, “What is his form?”
And she said, “, and he is covered with a mantle.” And that it was Samuel, and he stooped with his face to the ground and bowed down.
A medium saw a spirit coming from the ground and that spirit looked like an old man.. Nowhere where is says it was Samuel that came up, it is only Saul that perceived in that way.
Pastor , go on explaining .The Spirit of God is with you.Reveal the Truth because Jesus said we shall know the Truth and the Truth shall set set you free.
U clean umagejageja and explains it kahle futhi 🔥🔥 worse part the pastor is agreeing with him kodwa ufuna ukuphika 🤣🤣🤣🤣 ngeke ukholwe izidalwa zakomunye umuzi zikhona ezakini ✋✋✋✋
❤Esh Prophet Magejageja for eversince I listened this Interview, I followed you during then, you have branged me alive as a man who is a Christian but I was always see a Mistry in the way we worship GOD
Yi hlathi ke leli elikhulunywa LA!!
Clearly all those years when you were preaching Salvation you were just imitating others. Once you have an encounter with Jesus there is no turning back. Jesus Christ is Lord and Only him. By the way if you don't believe in him stop quoting the Bible to justify your evil motives.
“being confident of this very thing, that He who began a good work in you will perfect it until the day of Jesus Christ” Philippians 1 v 6
Either he is right or the the bible is wrong... Deuteronomy 18:10-12
[10]There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth divination, or an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch,
[11]Or a charmer, or a consulter with familiar spirits, or a wizard, or a necromancer.
[12]For all that do these things are an abomination unto the LORD: and because of these abominations the LORD thy God doth drive them out from before thee.
@@nyikofumani7010 I irrevocably agree with Sinethemba. Every man and woman born of the Spirit is being conformed into the image of the lovely Lord Jesus. This sanctification process, starts at rebirth, when we are born of the Spirit, through faith in Christ. It is an ongoing process that will be brought to full completion and beautiful perfection in the day that Christ takes us to be with Him (the Rapture). God alone started the work in our life by faith when we were born again. Only God can continue His work of sanctification during our earthly life, and only He can finish the good work He started, when we were declared righteous, by faith - for in no sense can a man make himself perfect - for by works of the flesh will no man living be justified, sanctified, or glorified. The work of salvation belongs to God alone.
Paul knew that when God begins a good work in a new-born believer, He will most certainly bring it to completion (Philippians 1 v 6). In other words, if one is saved (Jesus is the only way) God will finish the work in him. (read the Sermon on the Mount and Luke 14, Jesus lays out the terms of discipleship). Paul further says that we are to examine ourselves.
“Examine yourselves to see whether you are in the faith; test yourselves. Do you not realize that Christ Jesus is in you-unless, of course, you fail the test?” 2 Corinthians 13 v 5
In summary, this false prophet never counted the cost (Luke 14) and he could never have been saved (born again). This guy is / was a false prophet! “Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. You shall know them by their fruits.”
We should never be moved by such people children of God. It is written that that such people will come and deceive many, we must stay alert and pray that God's people must be saved. People want to hear what makes them feel good regardless on how much they disobey God. We were chosen before the creation of everything and we will stand firm and we shall never be moved by anything or anyone remember greater the one that is in us than the one that is in the world.
@@sinethembavalashiya4127 Amen
Power
Ezekiel 9:4
And the Lord said unto him, Go through the midst of the city, through the midst of Jerusalem, and set a mark upon the foreheads of the men that sigh and that cry for all the abominations that be done in the midst thereof.
5 And to the others he said in mine hearing, Go ye after him through the city, and smite: let not your eye spare, neither have ye pity:
6 Slay utterly old and young, both maids, and little children, and women: but come not near any man upon whom is the mark; and begin at my sanctuary. Then they began at the ancient men which were before the house.
Bathathe Magejageja, ngyakuzwa Magejageja 😅😅😅
Dankie magejagaja
Magejageja❤
Inkinga lelbhayibhili angisalibelieve coz up to now nobody comes with a straight answer when you ask ukuthi who actually wrote it💁🏾♀️
You should have asked me. Bible was written by +40 people. 3 different continents, different language and time scale. Arabic, Greek and Hebrew. Africa it's included in those 3 continents. It took 1500 years to complete the bible. God is the author of it. People where his writers. Bible is the oldest book in the entire world. And it's found in non-fiction books. Making it to be true. There are so many evidence that supports what bible said some before science proved them.
@@kallymashigo6532 says who and why should we trust their narrative coz I sense so much of exploitation..especially on "slaves obey your master " is that how we came to slavery?especially coz it's still happening now but only on black folks 💁🏾♀️
@@sukumackenzie8054 you rely on your senses just as you stated. Rely in truth not what you want to hear. There's some many evidence out there that supports what bible says but people want to hear what they want to hear and you can't change that.
@@kallymashigo6532thank you!!!
Stop lying , Mayan book is the oldest
In Deuteronomy 18vs 9--14 the Bible made it clear that God does not allow those who believe in him to consult the dead or enquirer to the witch doctors or sangomas , for they fall under Detestable practices to him. In verse 12 it's stated that anyone who does this is Detestable to the LORD . And in verse 14 it says -- But as for you the LORD your God has not permitted you to do so
No no no Proff Magejageja izandla phezulu Baba🙏🙏🙏,usimele kulaba abathi asilahle ubuthina.uJehova Uma ezokubusisa ukubusisa ngokoKhokho bakho...Ngyabonga kakhuluuu