Thank you for your clear, concise and professional instruction. The salt in the bottom of my brine tank had become compacted and was very dirty. I just took everything apart and cleaned and sanitized the tank.
Is it bad if my brine well (the long white pipe) is tilted a bit? It doesn’t sit straight up and down, but it does seem to reach the bottom of the tank. All the connections look to be in place.
Very informative best video I have found. Thank you for explaining the names of the parts. After looking through manual and spending a couple of hours on-line you are the first person to say the name of the Brine well in my Kinetico. Now trying to find just that part! Any ideas on where to purchase? mine cracked down the side
I'm thinking that the position of the tapered ferrule & shouldered collar were installed incorrectly. The correct order should be the nut, shouldered collar with the shoulder pointed towards the pipe elbow & then the tapered ferrule with the taper towards the pipe elbow. When the tube is fitted onto the pipe elbow tightening the nut pushes on the shouldered collar which in turn forces the tapered end of the ferrule tightly into the pipe elbow creating an air tight seal. To check the air tightness, you can blow air into the other end of the tube (using your mouth) & lift the float valve arm to close the valve blocking the air.. then release the float valve arm while still blowing again opens the valve.
I recently bought a new home with a Imperial Water Softening System. I've never had a water softener, so I know nothing about these things. The only thing I know is basically how to put the salt pellets in the brine tank. Everything has been great with it, until the last couple days the water tastes nasty. I opened the brine tank and the water looks dirty, what do I need to do to get it working properly again? Thanks.
I have a Kenmore and the brine tank keeps filling up with water to very top. I have replaced the venturi and that has not worked. I followed the pictorial on Kenmore's site and was able to lower the water per their instructions. As soon as I plug the softner up to the electricity, it starts fill up. Any suggestions
hello, i bought a home brand new almost 2 years ago and ever since the first day i moved in the brine tank the salt and water looks like a dirt color inside can you tell me according to your expertise if this is right please?
You have a simple brine 'pickup' - no safety float. The brine line should connect to it just like it would to a safety float. Are you having issues? Let me know how I can help.
Hello! I recently moved into a house that has an old GE 440i water softener. The softener itself seems to work, however, it eats through a ton of salt. Everytime I check the salt tank, the water level is up around 12” or so from the bottom. Is this an abnormal amount of water?
Could be a few things. The most likely is that the programming is not correct. Secondly, make sure that during the Brine Fill stage that the mechanism is opening the brine valve.
Verification: A 29,000 Capacity water softner / set at 16 gpg / avg water usage/day / regen's every 5 days / 16 x 110 x 5 = 8,800 grains removed. Am I understanding this correctly? Is my softner regening to often or is something wrong with it? Thank You
I'm not exactly sure what you're asking. So here's how I would break it down for you. First, you call your softener a 29,000 grain system. Is that because that's how it was sold to you or is it because that is the capacity that it ACTUALLY provides? Often, a softener is sold at the max capacity it can be regenerated to, but in actuality it's much more efficient to operate it at a lower capacity value and a MUCH lower salt consumption rate. So, the first thing to do is confirm that your softener is operating at 29,000 grains. If that is indeed the case, then based on a hardness of 16 grains per gallon, the softener can process about 1812 gallons before it's exhausted and needs to regenerate. I hope that helps.
Yes - the brine tank will need to be cleaned out every few years or so. Exactly how often depends on the quality of the salt you're using. All salt contains some impurities. The dirtier the salt, the more junk it leaves in the bottom of the brine tank when it dissolves. Take out your brine grid and have a look at the bottom of the brine tank. If it's muddy or dirty looking, take it out to the driveway and hose it out.
Well, I made the video almost 10 years ago, so I don't remember why I did or didn't show certain things. It's likely because I wasn't getting many questions about that at the time. Going off of memory, that salt grid sat about 3" off the floor of the tank. It was higher than most of the other salt grids I'm familiar with.
Potassium chloride does not regenerate your water softener as thoroughly as regular salt (sodium chloride). The ONLY reason to use Potassium Chloride is if you're trying to limit the sodium content of your water. Since water softening is an ion exchange process, the positively charged ion (cation) ends up in the soft water. The harder the incoming water, the higher this concentration. But potassium chloride does not regenerate your softener as thoroughly as regular salt.
drain it, clean it and refill it with fresh salt, check to see if its pre or post fill system. should be done once a year or more often if you notice its dirty. Maintenance is key.
I have confirmed our softner has a 29,000 capacity per label. It regens roughly every 5 days/ it can be adjusted to a max of 7 days. At the 16grains/5days/avg water use per day 110gallons; it is only removing 8,800g. Why so low when it is a 29000g unit? The unit is operating in the auto function per timet on the regens. It can be adjusted from 1-7 days. Thank You Is it possibly oversized?
A couple of questions. Does your softener have an electronic controller? Does it measure the amount of water that you use and regenerate based on that, or does it regenerate based on elapsed time?
OK - so all you have to do is set it to automatic mode, make sure your hardness is set properly, and the softener will only regenerate based on your consumption. The rest of the math will take care of itself.
My brine tank only fills 1/3 of the way. What could cause this? I have a pentair 762/268 with autotrol control screen It recently had to be reset because out dog chewed the electrical connection that went to it, and I’m afraid I didn’t set it up correctly. How would I know if 9lb/ft is the correct setting and if 25 is correct for hardness? Sorry for so many questions but hopefully someone can help
Having a brine tank fill to 1/3 of the way with water isn't necessarily a problem at all. The height that that water reaches in the brine tanks has to do with the programming and the amount of salt in the tank. If you have the salt set to 9 pounds then as long as you have the cubic feet of resin set correctly then the softener will add the proper amount of water to the brine tank. For your hardness you can look it up if you live in a city, or if you don't already know it and you have your own water supply you'd have to get it tested.
It sounds like the valve is stuck in the 'brine fill' position. It should only be in that position for a few minutes and then switch to the next stage. From what customers have described to me, these control valves are not easy to repair and the repairs often don't last long.
This helped me figure out how to remove and clean the air check valve in my Culligan brine tank, thanks.
Excellent tutorial on the brine tank components.
Well explained and very helpful! Need people like this in Government.
Thanks for the video. A quick clean out of my air check valve revived my brine tank functionality.
Excellent video. Thanks for posting.
very clear and to the point information. Thanks this was helpful!
Thank you for your clear, concise and professional instruction. The salt in the bottom of my brine tank had become compacted and was very dirty. I just took everything apart and cleaned and sanitized the tank.
You're welcome!
Awesome! Now I can dissamble it and clean it. This is perfect.
Love the video. Found it extremely helpful. Thanks man.
Well done - very informative. Thanks.
Great video! We're having some issues with our water softener system at home and this opens up another thing to troubleshoot.
Is that for your drinking water ?
Thanks. This is the exact brine tank I have
Great explanation thank you
very educative. thank you
Is it bad if my brine well (the long white pipe) is tilted a bit? It doesn’t sit straight up and down, but it does seem to reach the bottom of the tank. All the connections look to be in place.
Very informative best video I have found. Thank you for explaining the names of the parts. After looking through manual and spending a couple of hours on-line you are the first person to say the name of the Brine well in my Kinetico. Now trying to find just that part! Any ideas on where to purchase? mine cracked down the side
Before I take apart the brine well float besides unplugging the unit what else do I need to do like is there water I need to shut off someplace?
I'm thinking that the position of the tapered ferrule & shouldered collar were installed incorrectly. The correct order should be the nut, shouldered collar with the shoulder pointed towards the pipe elbow & then the tapered ferrule with the taper towards the pipe elbow. When the tube is fitted onto the pipe elbow tightening the nut pushes on the shouldered collar which in turn forces the tapered end of the ferrule tightly into the pipe elbow creating an air tight seal. To check the air tightness, you can blow air into the other end of the tube (using your mouth) & lift the float valve arm to close the valve blocking the air.. then release the float valve arm while still blowing again opens the valve.
What the type ur salt on brine tank ?
Thx u for the instruction..
This video is really educative
My 7000 Fleck is set to 25 minutes of BD and ends with refilling the well with 7" of water. Is that enough for a 40,000 system with H13?
excellent job
I recently bought a new home with a Imperial Water Softening System. I've never had a water softener, so I know nothing about these things. The only thing I know is basically how to put the salt pellets in the brine tank. Everything has been great with it, until the last couple days the water tastes nasty. I opened the brine tank and the water looks dirty, what do I need to do to get it working properly again? Thanks.
My brine well (white plastic tube) has a slit crack about 3/4 of the way down Is this normal?
Can you show a close-up of the washers, I'm having trouble seeing them and I don't want to screw it up.
I have a Kenmore and the brine tank keeps filling up with water to very top. I have replaced the venturi and that has not worked. I followed the pictorial on Kenmore's site and was able to lower the water per their instructions. As soon as I plug the softner up to the electricity, it starts fill up. Any suggestions
I wish it was more about installing rather than just the science of how it works and what it does
Does the brine tank need to be cleaned now and then ?
hello, i bought a home brand new almost 2 years ago and ever since the first day i moved in the brine tank the salt and water looks like a dirt color inside can you tell me according to your expertise if this is right please?
Do you need to put water manually in the tank after you cleaned it?
You have a simple brine 'pickup' - no safety float. The brine line should connect to it just like it would to a safety float. Are you having issues? Let me know how I can help.
Safety float? All I have is a tube that goes down to the bottom and has a screen filter at the end...??
I have a 'hydrorinse automatic feeder' that is connected to the brine well. What is the point of this?
Hi how much water should I put on my brine tanks after I clean up my tank?
Hello! I recently moved into a house that has an old GE 440i water softener. The softener itself seems to work, however, it eats through a ton of salt. Everytime I check the salt tank, the water level is up around 12” or so from the bottom. Is this an abnormal amount of water?
Thanks!
You're welcome!
Is the pick up suppose to sit on the bottom of the tank?
I bought a new assembly but it is longer than the tube
It should be at or near the bottom.
What would be the cause of NOT enough water entering the brine tank during fill?
Could be a few things. The most likely is that the programming is not correct. Secondly, make sure that during the Brine Fill stage that the mechanism is opening the brine valve.
Verification:
A 29,000 Capacity water softner / set at 16 gpg / avg water usage/day / regen's every 5 days / 16 x 110 x 5 =
8,800 grains removed.
Am I understanding this correctly? Is my softner regening to often or is something wrong with it?
Thank You
I'm not exactly sure what you're asking. So here's how I would break it down for you. First, you call your softener a 29,000 grain system. Is that because that's how it was sold to you or is it because that is the capacity that it ACTUALLY provides? Often, a softener is sold at the max capacity it can be regenerated to, but in actuality it's much more efficient to operate it at a lower capacity value and a MUCH lower salt consumption rate. So, the first thing to do is confirm that your softener is operating at 29,000 grains. If that is indeed the case, then based on a hardness of 16 grains per gallon, the softener can process about 1812 gallons before it's exhausted and needs to regenerate. I hope that helps.
Yes - the brine tank will need to be cleaned out every few years or so. Exactly how often depends on the quality of the salt you're using. All salt contains some impurities. The dirtier the salt, the more junk it leaves in the bottom of the brine tank when it dissolves. Take out your brine grid and have a look at the bottom of the brine tank. If it's muddy or dirty looking, take it out to the driveway and hose it out.
After hosing it out do I need to refill it with water myself?
I replaced my piston and seals but my brine tank continues to fill up slowly after a cycle. Could it be the float that's causing the problem?
Probably not the float. I suggest you have a look at the brine valve. It's the part that opens/closes the port that sends water to the brine tank.
@reidthornley would that be at the bottom of the float assembly?
No. It's part of the control valve mechanism of the softener.@@srt8bean330
Why didn’t you take the salt grid out to show the bottom of the tank and how high off the bottom the salt sits?
Well, I made the video almost 10 years ago, so I don't remember why I did or didn't show certain things. It's likely because I wasn't getting many questions about that at the time. Going off of memory, that salt grid sat about 3" off the floor of the tank. It was higher than most of the other salt grids I'm familiar with.
How do you fix salt banks
Usually, you just break them up with a broom handle.
@@aquatell ok thanks
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i am using potassium chloride instead of salt is there any advantage of using this much more costly product
Potassium chloride does not regenerate your water softener as thoroughly as regular salt (sodium chloride). The ONLY reason to use Potassium Chloride is if you're trying to limit the sodium content of your water. Since water softening is an ion exchange process, the positively charged ion (cation) ends up in the soft water. The harder the incoming water, the higher this concentration. But potassium chloride does not regenerate your softener as thoroughly as regular salt.
@@aquatell I just changed my brine tank over to potassium chloride pellets for health reasons. Do I need to adjust anything?
My tank has dirty looking water what do i do?
drain it, clean it and refill it with fresh salt, check to see if its pre or post fill system. should be done once a year or more often if you notice its dirty. Maintenance is key.
Ry S how can you tell if it’s a pre or post fill?
I have confirmed our softner has a 29,000 capacity per label. It regens roughly every 5 days/ it can be adjusted to a max of 7 days. At the 16grains/5days/avg water use per day 110gallons; it is only removing 8,800g. Why so low when it is a 29000g unit? The unit is operating in the auto function per timet on the regens. It can be adjusted from 1-7 days.
Thank You
Is it possibly oversized?
A couple of questions. Does your softener have an electronic controller? Does it measure the amount of water that you use and regenerate based on that, or does it regenerate based on elapsed time?
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My softer has a electronic controller. It also has a flow meter. You can set 2 ways:
Automatic mode or a max of seven days. Northstar
OK - so all you have to do is set it to automatic mode, make sure your hardness is set properly, and the softener will only regenerate based on your consumption. The rest of the math will take care of itself.
My brine tank only fills 1/3 of the way. What could cause this? I have a pentair 762/268 with autotrol control screen
It recently had to be reset because out dog chewed the electrical connection that went to it, and I’m afraid I didn’t set it up correctly. How would I know if 9lb/ft is the correct setting and if 25 is correct for hardness? Sorry for so many questions but hopefully someone can help
Having a brine tank fill to 1/3 of the way with water isn't necessarily a problem at all. The height that that water reaches in the brine tanks has to do with the programming and the amount of salt in the tank. If you have the salt set to 9 pounds then as long as you have the cubic feet of resin set correctly then the softener will add the proper amount of water to the brine tank. For your hardness you can look it up if you live in a city, or if you don't already know it and you have your own water supply you'd have to get it tested.
Reid Thornley Thankyou
cant hear you ,,
Turn up your volume. I actually had to turn mine down for once.
Great explanation, I'm having problem with water shooting out back of that connection nut. Now I know name of parts needed. Thanks..
No sweat.
It sounds like the valve is stuck in the 'brine fill' position. It should only be in that position for a few minutes and then switch to the next stage. From what customers have described to me, these control valves are not easy to repair and the repairs often don't last long.