Mass Effect 5: The Return of the Geth
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- Sorry it’s been so long since my latest video, life has been hectic! But hopefully you enjoy this theory and speculation deep dive.
Also if anyone owns this Citadel poster, can you tell me the date on the bottom right? I don’t have a copy myself and it’s been out for a while and I completely forgot to ask if anyone had it before making this video.
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Can't believe I missed the opportunity to include the clip of Legion doing the robot dance 😭
Also if you own this Citadel poster can you let me know what the date is at the bottom right?
Enjoy the vid and thanks everyone! ❤
The quarians saving the Geth would actually make canonical sense as Tali mentions that the Geth could be used to boost and rejuvenate a quarians immune system
I feel like I remember Tali saying in ME3 that the Geth were integrating into their own suits to help them to prepare for being out of their suits faster. maybe this caused the geth to get stuck in their suits and now have a Sam/Ryder like relationship.
And what about players that destroyed geths? No ME 5?
If we get Geth in ME4/5 there's 2 things I'd like
1: a geth squad mate early on in the game
2: the geth atleast getting at least a ambassador
a geth Shepard as ambasador will be sick , i mean not literal shepard , but a geth who remembers shepard's and act smilar to them when its need - for them shepard is a hero he gives a geth live , thanks for shepard them have life and can create community (they are machines so is possible to them have common memories (legion mission in mass effect 2 literally say that ) or a geth with shepard like state of mind and ,,don't give a shit when council doin'g nothing ,imagine council arguing with each other and the geth ambasador literally play video from time when all race's fight together to beat reapers , or shows other videos from theirs memory bank to shout' council mouth ,i mean citadel council are pain in the as and needs someone to keep them in check (if there are any typo's then i sorry normally i speak only Polish , and i don't use English weary often so forgive me any typo's 😉
Since I always resolve the Geth/Quarian conflict peacefully and choose the Destroy ending, I'm ok with those choices being canon. I would love a Geth companion early in the game. Legion was awesome. I play on PC, so with mods, Destroy only takes out the Reapers. Great video.
What I would like to come back is exploring the planets in the Mako n having random thresher maw battles like in ME1.
agreed but probably not as much of it as in ME1. i loved exploring new worlds, and the thresher battles were exciting, but there's only so much world-building they can do with that and it can become tedious. still, it would be pretty cool roaming a world you vaguely remember, then finding a dead reaper has crashed and permanently altered the landscape
The poster to me symbolises a graveyard, which fits into the themes of Geth 'resurrection' in ME5... For me, the best way to bring back the Geth is via Andromeda... We know the Geth were observing Andromeda; maybe some of them travelled there prior to the initiative & ME3 endings... It might be a good way to tie in plot threads with AI in Andromeda (Jardaan, SAM, etc)... Not sure how I'd feel about them being rebuilt via destroy ending as they wouldn't be the same Geth consciousness anymore.
As long as the writing for their return is good, lines up with the Mass Effect universe lore & takes into account our prior trilogy choices & outcomes, etc, then I'm all for it!... I remember being terrified by the Geth in ME1, but came to understand, like & respect them in ME2 & 3... It was a really interesting player-character arc for me, which I'd love to explore more if done correctly.
IF the Geth are in the next game, perhaps they will be the ones to bridge the gap between the Milky Way and Andromeda
I love the entire concept of the Geth. I loved how their society was put toghether.
I want them back as allies, and as enemies. They were fun to do combat with.
The Geth fascinate me, since they add another layer to what it means to exist. I'd like a peaceful resolution to their conflict with the Quarians to become canon. Also, the next game should have a fantastic Geth squad mate, like Legion was.
On the one hand I'm definitely looking forward to the next Mass Effect game, and I not only hope that the Geth are involved but the other Milky Way races that made the journey to Andromeda as well (which DOES include the Quarians and other Species on board the Quarian Ark, which although never seen actually DID make it Andromeda as is proven by the warning signal picked up at the end of the main quest), as well as seeing more of the Angara, Kett, and other as yet unknown races inhabiting the Andromeda Galaxy, and possibly even the Jardaan.
But on the other hand I sincerely hope that they DON'T try to bring Shepherd back, because as stated by the developers in interviews BEFORE the launch of Mass Effect Andromeda "Commander Shepherd's story is done".
Which bluntly means that...how shall I put this delicately...Commander Shepherd is "whacked, kacked, rubbed out, snuffed out, snuffed, erased, cleaned, eliminated, terminated, killed, died, sleeping, eternal rest, history, done, finished, kicked the bucket, bought the farm, taking a dirt nap, pushing up daisies, feeding the worms, D. - E. - D., dead."
In my opinion as long as Commander Shepherd is NOT involved in the next game other than being referenced in relation to events in the distant past than it should be a good game.
Just my own personal opinion anyway.
Ok so how about. Commanda. RYDER. From the andromada ,
@@JOHNSMITH-vx5yz now that is EXACTLY what I wish would happen. In my opinion the franchise needs to return to the Andromeda Galaxy, and pick up where Mass Effect Andromeda left off. We saw the very beginnings of the path to an historical figure in Ryder's story, now I think that the franchise should continue with what would have been at least a trilogy, if not an ongoing saga.
Just my own personal opinion anyway.
@@JOHNSMITH-vx5yz EA won't let the protagonist of a financially failed game become the protagonist of a new game
I've always been happy to manage to save both quarians and geth. Hope will see them again.
The geth clearly knew more about the Mass Relays than anyone else. They don't require food, light, anything really.
They could have sent a "Ark" out into Dark Space to wait out the war.
Maybe the Geth sent their own "Ark" to Andromeda when it became clear things were not going well for AI / geth in the Milky Way galaxy.
@@TianarTruegard entirely possible. There is a 300 year gap where nobody could see what they were doing beyond the Perseus Veil. In that time they accomplished a lot that we know of. Stands to reason they also accomplished orders of magnitude more that we don't know about.
Using their advanced understanding of mass effect tech they could have sent an ark to an entirely different sector of the Andromeda Galaxy.
All of these are good questions.
Great details 👍🏽 looking forward to the next chapter in the Mass Effect Universe, I love your videos! I would love to have a Geth on the council or have "the last remaining/found" Geth as a party member for an entire game!
I want to see the game start for whatever choice you made in ME3. I know that's never going to happen but the replay options would be mind-blowing. The next council may be Hanar, Volus and Elcor... would be funny if the meek inherited the galaxy. I would like to see more of the Geth story with a squad mate but I don't know how we would see more of them unless it followed whatever path you chose in ME3. Who knows though, shielded bunker that we didn't know they were in, some sent to Andromeda and they turned around or whatever saves them for destruction. Mass Effect is awesome, I hope they continue doing what they do with it.
If you listen to Legion's dialogue in ME2, he discusses Reaper forms being the ultimate goal of the geth. He just disagrees that following the "Old machines" is the right way of achieving their goal because it forces them to progress down a certain path much like Nazara (Sovereign) described. Ultimately he is telling you that the geth are fundamentally opposed to organic life because they just want such different things. Even if it is organics mostly starting conflicts with the geth over territory rather than geth fighting over resources, the conflict is set. Fundamentally different beings will not co-exist peacefully and the geth will be more advanced.
I would imagine the council would no longer have any real Authority to enact laws against synthetics after Mass Effect 3. I would think that many people would be absolutely pissed off with the council and the government for not taking the reaper threat seriously. If they had, many lives could have been spared.
I am not sure how it can be done:, however, I really want EDI to return if it turns out to be Shepard and crew. It would be interesting to see how see grows. I would also love to have a Geth teammate for much longer than we had access to Legion. This vid shows how both the Geth and EDI could have been saved even with the Destroy Ending.
Geth, AI, synthetics.. these have been some of the bigger themes in Mass Effect. Its the next step in evolution. Geth will always play a major part.
My personal head canon is that David Archer resurrected the Geth because he has the Source Code in his head.
Tali is still my fav companion i need more 😥
The Geth are adorable. I hope they bring back the Geth Prime, if not Legion himself.
Would love the Geth to return, my favourite race!
It probably seems stupid to say this because it's the whole point of the video, but it's great having all this information that has been drip fed to us all put together. Well structured with great pacing. The visuals keep things moving, we are given time to absorb them while at the same time you gently pace your dialogue giving us time to piece everything together. It's great to see your channel continually growing.
This is very interesting! I believe that the geth could appear gain from the Andromeda galaxy as they had been watching it
The Geth return is the main reason why I hope there's no Destroy canon. I gave up a life with an Yvonne Strahovski lookalike and uploaded my consciousness into a Reaper because I wanted to save every synthetic life so I want my sacrifice to mean something! I can accept BioWare finding a reason to bring them back into the Destroy ending - even though Mass Effect 3 strongly implied that they were gone for good - for the sake of the story, but if I killed off my Shepard to save them and then my ending is written off continuity for a consequence-free Destroy canon, I won't be happy.
BW could easily just say, "Yeah, the Intelligence lied through its teeth and only the Reapers are destroyed in the Destroy Ending".
I seem to remember Legion imparting information about the neural network of a singular Geth becoming more 'organic' because of reaper technology that exceeded that of hundreds of networked Geth prior to that moment. This may be their saving grace in a Destroy ending. It may also be that for EDI for similar reasons. The 'Destroy Ending' is kinda vague.
I believe the tie to andromeda is the fact that the geth are the jardaan but more specifically the faction of geth that were partially indoctrinated, understood the solution before Shepard and thus took it upon themselves to start life anew in andromeda where they could design organic life more suitable to interface and meld with synthetic life forms ie the Angara. But something from dark space pushed them into a war with the kett, something so great a threat it would explain why the kett think exhalation is a gift its their version of a solution to the cycle which serves to prepare life to fight whatever it is that lurks in dark space
Doesn't fit.
The Jardaan Khi Tasira space station was built in 1600 BC.
The Geth were created in 1858 AD.
That is, the Khi Tasira station was created several millennia before the creation of the Geth
@@user-wr7mb3ic7m 0ooof, well it was worth a shot, maybe the jardaan are still what another galaxy's "geth" turned into after their cycle? thanks for pointing that though
Legion: Shepard commander I'd love to be back on the Normandy with you
I don't think they'd be given a seat on the Council, unless that is completely changed, but they could get an Embassy there.
I love geth and would love to see more content around them!
The Geth could have just been outside the galaxy. Outside the rim studying deep space. Dark energy?
here is my theory the geth could technically survive in the destroy ending as far as we know the crucible only effected the milky way maybe some geth left the milky way either because they did not want to be part of conflict with the quarians or support going to the reapers or if shepard made peace with the quarians and the geth. The geth probably made a failsafe to survive in case the reapers won and were not effect by the crucible or maybe they were rebuilt. If peace was achieved the council with help from the quarians opened an organic ai relation division to help the geth to be accepted with the council overseeing it or even tali be in charge of the division and go to the council with updates since she was there to help achieve peace. As for the dead geth my current theory is that mass relay we saw being built caused those geth bodies and the crater.
Going by what I have seen of the usual MO for most of the trilogy my guess is they won't canonize one particular ending in fear of angering those of us who chose one of the other endings such as control of synthesis but what we will see in game will be based on what the players chose in the last game of the trilogy. But as some people believe that Andromeda might also play a role in the next mass effect game it might be that the image of the mass relay being built is the groups not only repairing some of the damaged mass relays but the construction of a relay to reach the Andromeda Galaxy so that both galaxies can be joined together also if what I have seen in the teaser trailer of liara's seen she looks like she might now be about 600 years older than she was in the first three games which means she is exiting her matron stage of life. However like I said it is a high probability that whatever the player chooses will be what constitutes what happens in the next game. Because no matter which ending we choose we can't be certain that there won't be some damage that could be caused by either beam in fact the supposed reaper covered in snow that most people believe liara is climbing up in the teaser trailer might be one of the ones we fought and killed before whatever ending we choose.
I really miss Legion and I really wish he didn’t have to die and hope in mass effect 4 will get a Geth squadmate and can change the different versions of the Geth
Legion & the Geth, why I could never choose destroy.
Even with a destroy ending what is to stop someone creating new AI afterwards?
Relays would be rebuilt and the various races would want things to get back to normal...and normal was clearly inventing more and more sophisticated AI even when that's outlawed. It's a big galaxy.
amazing video Kala :D
Thank you!
I would very much prefer if the Geth/Quarian War was canonically peacefully resolved.
I think that would make the most sense, and would also help to progress the narrative such as testing the newfound peace between the Quarians and the Geth in a post-Reaper War galaxy; Will the peace hold despite everything thrown at them, or will their newfound peace be broken through desperation and greed?
@@dragonbornexpress5650 If so, that's not on the part of the Geth. Considering they let the Quarians leave without a pursuit after the first war and then withdrew to the outer rim, they are not the aggressors. The Quarians would have to be the aggressors, much like Admiral Han'Gerrel. However, this is not how I perceive the story going. After all the work poured into bringing the Geth back to the creators, I believe that they will be allied against a greater threat.
Why do i get the very bad feeling that the next mass effect game is just gonna be a remake of the 1st one
I can entirely see Earth claiming the citadel after ME3.
Yeah, I can see that too, especially in the Destroy ending since that leaves the Citadel stuck in orbit above Earth with nobody being able to do anything about it because the Mass Relays were fried.
Taking Legon on the Quarrian ship for her trial was fun and I never though of it until someone mentioned it. I think in the next ME a Geth companion should be in there from the beginning.
Honestly you CAN get Legion pretty early on, mainline the main missions and let Kelly and Chackwas die, worth it imo as they're irrelevant in 3 anyways. You just do the IFF mission extraordinarily early and then do everything else as normal, loyalty missions etc
If this is in the destroy ending universe I’d like it to be the Low EMS destroy ending. It gives us more incentive to rebuild as so much was destroyed, a complete wipe. Idk how the hell the Geth could ever be back but perhaps the Geth may play the role of the protheans in this game, having some sort’ve knowledge stored away that ties to the main narrative of the game the same way the protheans did.
What if a paragon playthrough is considered canon, where the geth gets all reaper tech upgrades where they get whatever equation that makes the geth immune to reaper death blast
My gosh if I can have a Geth best pal I'll be over the moon
Yeah Buddy!
just no, please no geth we done that story line already
Geth? Seat on the council? They would be worse then Reapers😂😂😂
I'll choose 'control' ending over destroy ending million times over.
My personal canon is that the Geth were not destroyed at the end of ME3. Legion sacrifices himself to give them free will. I want that to be a big enough loophole to spare them from the catalyst. (Probably not but since nothing is canon for after ME3 yet…)
Peace is the only option I would like to have in ME5. I would love a Geth companion with free will in the next game!!!
Ive been trying to get geth to survive and reach 7800. I hope our profiles still transfer over.
I think Geth will be in the next game, no doubt, but I think what has to be asked is they will canonize one of the choices on homeworld. If all the Geth died that will have to be addressed but if all the Quarians died then what will have to be addressed.
Legion entrusts Liara with a backup of the Geth she uses after the war. Depending on your choices, the Quarians are upset but reluctantly agree due to Tali and Shepards goodwill
If the Geth are able to come back, what about EDI?
Horrific thought. If the Geth could be brought back. Which i too think they easily could. Then so could the Reapers.
I feel like giving the Geth a seat on the Council is highly unrealistic. The Volus have been there right after the Asari and the Salarians, and they're still waiting. Humanity was, in fact, treated quite favorly by the Counsil, not entirely without reason either, sure, but still. An embassy however, yeah I could see it.
But I don't really see the Quarians rebuilding the Geth as the way to explain why the Geth would still be there. I think the forced peace broken by Shepard would make them realize that they can absolutely live with the Geth on the long run, but the Destroy ending can't happen THAT long after Priority Rannoch, and I really can't see the Quarians rebuilding their 300 years old enemies. Learn to deal with it for their homeworld, generally for the best on the long run ? Sure.
But if the Geth were destroyed by something that was out of their hands, most would probably b perfectly fine with it. They were generally ready to fight them in a war for Rannoch after all.
So I think it should be something else.
Mass Effect 5: Return of Biotic God
I would hate it if Destroy ending was canon. I like the geth. Legion is in my top 4 favourite ME characters. I really wish to have a geth squadmate again and if Bioware is creative enough maybe even romance option. They already did this once, why not again. It would be an interesting romance to play at least once.
Legion in one part of the game said Geths are software.
I agree that the Geth are likely going to play a fairly substantial role in the next ME game in some fashion. I hope that BW doesn't do anything like reset the Geth as enemies based on a canonized "destroy" ending from ME3. The Geth should have been the least affected "race" in the alliance, as they were always on the outside of civilized society and had to take care to prepare for eventualities like war with the natural species, and this should definitely include having colonies that were beyond the reach of the destroy ending's death pulse that relied on the mass relays.
Revisit the scene in the endings where the radius of the impulse of death is shown. This radius is gigantic. Each impulse comes from the Relay and covers a gigantic area.
Geth in the Milky Way cannot survive.
But they can survive outside the Milky Way
@@user-wr7mb3ic7m I hadn't picked up on that. Thanks for pointing it out!
What if the main story of ME4 is about the geth/quarians and the dark matter plot
I wonder if legion uploaded himself to the Normandy SR2 that would have been great also the Geth would be great in the next Mass Effect games and as allies
The Geth, & EDI could still be alive as they were computer programs, not a mix of tech/organic like the reapers, which is what the crucible would be designed to disrupt.
Otherwise when the crucible was initiated, all computers on ships & those with upgrades would fail.
I think it's more likely that the catalyst lied so that destroy would be seen as a harder choice to make having friendships with AI.
The "destroy ending" in ME:3 is really a total disaster, throwing all the loyal and helpful synthetics under the bus - for no good reason. Yeah, BioWare botched all the endings for ME:3 by excluding the only one that really makes sense - that Shepard rejects the Citadel AI's premise that organics and synthetics were always doomed to fight each other. If he or she played their cards right, Shepard had just proved that wrong by bringing peace and cooperation to the Quarrians and the Geth and working closely with EDI too. I still think the best start for ME:5 would be to pull a "Dallas" (where the TV show had one of the last, disastrous seasons revoked by being a dream sequence when the next season started) and put the galaxy pretty much back into the state it was before Shepard's ending choices. Then they could create a new, more sensible, cannon ending for ME:3 that didn't have so many logical or ethical problems!
Still worried that ME:5 won't be able to pull the original trilogy and Andromeda together in any rational way, and the last thing we need right now is another, botched Mass Effect game...
Keep up the good work, love your analysis and channel!
Any reason to discount the idea that the game takes place in the 2 years between Shepard's death and revival? Perhaps we'll have more on Legion's origin story, the recovery of Shepard's body and the creation of the Andromeda Initiative. Personally, I would rather an Andromeda story around the Quarian Ark and benefactor. There is too much mystery left in ME:A to let it die.
Bioware showed a teaser for 2022. There in the teaser at the bottom left was the date. 07.11.90. 90 year. Let me remind you that the events of ME3 were in 2186. 86 year
The Geth were the best enemies in the trilogy.
I think Mass Effect and more to the point Dragon Age have never had a solid theme, Bioware fluctuated so much between games and dropped so many story threads (mostly in DA to the point where each game is almost unrecognizable from the last in themes, art style, tone etc)
I think it's gonna be something totally different.
Still waiting for live action ME series
I guess that rules out the destroy ending being the canon one 🤷
There are different ways how the Geth will appear in the new ME😀
The geth will surely return. How? I don't know.
I know this is sort of irrelevant to the topic. But it feels like everyone forgets that even just dead reapers and their tech can indoctrinate. And there's reapers alive and/or dead all over every inhabited planet. While maybe not a main plot device. I feel like there will definitely be some sort of indoctrinated baddies or aspect to the next mass effect.
Edi better come back
I really think that it's going to be the fourth ending where do you don't pick a color and the war against the Reapers continues
That or the next big villains are the sovereigns from the Mass Effect 3 DLC
You forgot something. Destroyed Relay in the teaser. In the fourth ending, all Relays are intact
@@user-wr7mb3ic7m That's not the best argument against the 4th ending because we've seen relays destroyed before. I mean hell, we've destroyed on ourselves by then.
@@user-wr7mb3ic7m They also get destroyed if you don't gather enough war assets at the end, which one could argue is the same ending we would get by not choosing a color.
@@user-wr7mb3ic7m Also i dont think i remember seeing a destroyed relay. Are you referring to the part of the trailer with Liara finding the helmet?
Great video as always, congrats and keep it up with the great content!
No Ilos?
I think to a great capacity. Voice and mocap actors will be cheap. If you look at the recent releases, think cheap.
How do we get the geth if the kill the machines ending is supposed to be cannon? The devs have said repeatedly that the me3 kill all machines is the cannon ending which pissed off all of us who prefered synthisis.
Having the geth back would be amazing. Legion was my favorite ME character.
"How do we get the geth if the kill the machines ending is supposed to be cannon?"
Very simple. Some of the Geth are outside of the Milky Way when the Crucible was used.
@@user-wr7mb3ic7m Plausible. But why would they be outside the galactic cluster? It might be an interesting thing to explore if that were the case.
If they do a tie in to andromeda, i would understand possibly. The quarian ark never made it to the new galaxy and might have geth onboard but the ark's left before the geth made peace with the quarians so there would be friction there. I also got the impression they are abandoning Andromeda completely?
I just hope they take the time to go through their own in game encyclopedia's of lore before writing this. It's so rich with detail.
Question: Why did the Geth build a telescope out of three Relays?
Answer: To observe what interested them.
Question: Why can't the Geth assemble an expedition and send it to the object they are interested in???
As far as one can understand, the Quarian Ark has flown to Andromeda, but for some unknown reason, it is not intended to look for them.
Remember, they told you not to go near the Ark. If they had not flown to Andromeda, then there would be no point in asking not to approach the Ark
I think theres a reason why geth is wiped out by kett maybe since benefactor wanted kett to see milky way since theres data pad in ME:A in exaltation facility so wath if benefactor gave kett mass relay data to get into milky way so yeagh now it is race against time in ME5 to stop kett in mikiy way. Still great video Kala. And i mean come on bioware has to unite 2 games into one aka ME trilogy and ME:A to keep both fan bases happy some how but this is my 2 cents on the matter. Plus it is bretty obivous that kett is not fan of AI since they are pro evulution at any cost.
I really want the Geth to be a major antagonist force again, they have a strong Matrix machines type of vibes. Quarians could have either a positive/negative view depending on previous choices, maybe they are looking for retribution against any other organic race for leaving them to die along with other synthetic life in order to defeat the Reapers, harnessing dark matter to evolve themselves and use against the galaxy and who knows what else.
There's potential for a great new trilogy, these bits of content (especially the Geth poster) have an eerie vibe to them, i hope it turns out well.
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that looks like it says a8186ce not b to me anyway
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remember, the geth are software not hardware. remember what legion said in 3?
My gosh that never occurred to me. Liara not speaking with the Geths, cause they wouldve been speaking English..
Good vid once again Kala
If Mass effect based off the red ending how are the geth still alive? Since you completely destroyed all synthetic lives.
Does this unit return?
I don't see legion returning nor do I think he should but damn was he such a great character.
@@kalaelizabeth yeah definitely. I think he was great, served his purpose well, and had a worthy end so I don't see a reason for him to return. There's always a possibility, but I'd prefer there be little references, mentions or nods towards him instead.
@@TacticalShad0ws. Same.
@@TacticalShad0ws i would love to see how the geth honour legion and his sacrifice, as the geth prime says they will after the battle for rannoch
@@disaster_chief For sure. I remember noticing his name on the memorial wall in the Normandy with the lost crew members and getting really.. emotional? It was really sweet to me to see him honored among the Normandy crew as a crew member himself. So I really hope the Geth or Quarians do something similar for him. He really deserves it.
But what if Legion lied about the past and showed Shepard a tampered history for him/her to go with his side? I hope this wasn't the case. I just heard theories about this possibility.
Narratively I don't see a reason for this and Shepard was already on legions side by this point so I don't see a reason for legion to be manipulative to gain more sympathy. I don't think it would make sense for BioWare to do this either. But sure there's always a possibility for anything, but I'd be upset about this one because it just wouldn't make sense.
@@kalaelizabeth that's exactly what I was thinking when I heard about it. Big Dan gaming did a iceberg video on mass effect and mentioned the said theory.
ME5 forever
They r gunna screw it up somehow
BioWare hasn't even bothered to finish their last two games... y'all really going to keep giving them your $??
just saying it really doesn't seem like they care very much about putting out a good product or even just a finished product. It's like buying a pair of jeans that don't fit right and fall apart instantly then doing it again then doing it again 🙄🙄
It's misleading to say Destroy was the most popular, while leaving out, it was selected by less than half the players. Canonizing one ending creates bad will with a majority of players.
I'm not being misleading, it is the most popular choice according to BioWare's statistics and I talk often about how just because it is the most popular it doesn't mean it is the canon or correct choice. But it still is the most popular at around 45%, the second most popular choice is synthesis with 30%. Just because it's less than half the fanbase that chooses synthesis, it doesn't mean it isn't the most popular chosen option. About half of the player base chose destroy, thus making it the most popular choice.
@@kalaelizabeth. Not to mention, regarding OP's second argument, they would need to canonize an ending anyway as all three endings directly contradict one another as well as the various choices throughout the first three games. For example, you can't have Shepard both be alive and get the Synthesis ending since, in Synthesis, Shepard sacrifices themselves anyways. Some choices will have to be made non-canonical to provide opportunities for future games, which is all that EA cares about at the end of the day whether we like it or not.
Do the *Endings* actually need to be addressed? How could it be done in a way that doesn't get in the way of the *new* story? Can it be done in 3 or 4 sentences? This was how the backstory was introduced back in ME1.
Could it not be said the endings work better as a mystery anyway? Only Shepard knows what went on after the Crucible docked - and Shepard might be dead, or even if not, how could they explain what happened to anyone in a way that wouldn't get spun all out of shape. A *definitive* diegetic explanation is kinda impossible, and a non-diegetic explanation pointless regarding the next game.
Show, not tell, as they say, in which case we get to infer what happened based on how the galaxy is set up, and so we don't actually need a definitive explanation at all.
This is a copout, and nobody likes copouts; The endings need to be addressed or else people will be confused as shit, so this suggestion would arguably do more damage than fix any. Also, not all choices can be canon, and THIS IS NOT A MATTER OF DEBATE! For example, you can't get Mordin killed in Mass Effect 2 AND have him be the one to cure the Genophage in Mass Effect 3. On top of all of this, the comparison to Mass Effect 1 falls flat on it's face the very second you start thinking a bit more as it's two very different situations.
Schmeh, me 3 endings all sucked and legions the bomb soooooo I think I speak for many platforms when I say we can just move on without worrying too much about how dumb the ea cats up top made that damn game. There's only two stand out games where the plot got waaaaay worse in congruence with success. *Locust are people couhch hurrgghh****
With the news of Bioware that it's all hands on deck for DA next installment... The next ME game will be out for Years...end 2025 begin 2026 release date will not surprising.... Maybe Bioware is better of too stop the breadcrumbs that build hype around the next game ...they can't live up too