You have the best content for video creators on CZcams! I feel like so many young creators who haven't experienced halogene lamps, stick to cheap "professional" led light because they don't have anything to compare with... So they focus so much on camera gear and they can't figure out why their shoots are not looking as good as they would want to :)) So more content like this please ❤
This answered a question in the back of my mind. I typically run around with a battery powered LED softbox setup, but this convinces me that my tungsten lights need to stick around for when I have the time and space to light a scene.
Would have been good to equalise them by putting them inside the same modifier. They look completely different, the shape, the softness etc. not just the colour.
@Curtis Judd Very true. I am not even close as good as you are when noticing the difference in colors. It might just be that the cheap LED video looked like it had more contrast, which is maybe what I liked.
The budget LED seems to have created a very blacked out effect because it’s not reaching the back. So, if that’s the look I was going for, that seems to have done its job. Besides, for some weird reason, I thought it gave decent skin tone….😅
Curtis, this is slightly disappointing that in 2023, we still have that gap. I know the Amaran 200X S did great but that's just one light, that means most of the market is not really delivering this level of SSI as the 200X s.
Consider that less than 10 years ago, LEDs were not really a viable option for video, at least not at prices like these. That’s some pretty quick advancement.
I'm relatively new to the field of lighting so it was nice to see how well the Amarans perform considering I've never used anything else for any considerable amount of time. Thank you for this quality content.
@@curtisjudd don’t you profit from these videos somehow lol, jk. I own joker 800 and know the difference, would just love for other people to learn about them, don’t see much on CZcams.
Because I had to use an umbrella to diffuse the one tungsten light I still have in my kit and umbrellas spread light everywhere. Focus on the color chart and the skin tones for this comparison, not the background.
Yes, but it’s not just about “color quality” (that would be the minimum requirement for seriously thinking about replacing tungsten (factoring in cost of purchase vs running tungsten HOT 🥵) But “throw” - theaters still use tungsten because those lights can cast their spectrum at far greater distances - where you can’t have an - equally good - LED up on the stage with the talent… like a boom mic
You have the best content for video creators on CZcams! I feel like so many young creators who haven't experienced halogene lamps, stick to cheap "professional" led light because they don't have anything to compare with... So they focus so much on camera gear and they can't figure out why their shoots are not looking as good as they would want to :))
So more content like this please ❤
You got it! Coming up!
Love these short, straight to the point vids that make me curious to dive deeper into the topic
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Thanks, this topic would deserve a longer video! I still stick with my ARRI 650's for now...
Hard to beat those 650s in terms of color quality.
This answered a question in the back of my mind. I typically run around with a battery powered LED softbox setup, but this convinces me that my tungsten lights need to stick around for when I have the time and space to light a scene.
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Great comparison. Thanks! Coming from architectural lighting industry I chose Amaran for my first video gears and I’m glad I did!
Just picked up an Arri Lighting Kit all tungsten and wow! Beautiful skin tones all across the board!
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Love this! Picking up an Amaran 200x S
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Would have been good to equalise them by putting them inside the same modifier. They look completely different, the shape, the softness etc. not just the colour.
Agreed, unfortunately that wasn’t possible with what I had on hand.
Fantastic short as usual. Next video! Difference between CRI and SSI and all the other indexes!
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Very interesting topic would like to see a full video on this topic. Also a comparison between real daylight and new LED daylight lights
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I have a little Amaran 60d and the quality of the light is second to none. It's very accurate for such a budget minded COB.
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Really appreciate your attention to detail! Thank you for highlighting SSI. Is there any reliable/standardised metric for specularity?
SSI, TM-30 seem to be the most useful from my experience, but I wouldn't say that any of them are accepted industry wide as the definitive metric.
@@curtisjudd Thank you Sir. I was planning my own metric yesterday and you replied. 🙏🏼
Thanks for the Amaran 200xs!!😊
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I actually liked the look of the budget LED the best. For reference, I'm just using a decent Alienware monitor that I haven't calibrated.
Understood. This is about predictability, but any combination that looks good is good, just harder to achieve as there's more luck involved.
@Curtis Judd Very true. I am not even close as good as you are when noticing the difference in colors. It might just be that the cheap LED video looked like it had more contrast, which is maybe what I liked.
Very helpful, ty
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The Tungsten lamp looks a bit magenta. What camera did you shoot the tests on?
This was the canon c70 which tends to push toward magenta
Great comparison!
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The budget LED seems to have created a very blacked out effect because it’s not reaching the back. So, if that’s the look I was going for, that seems to have done its job. Besides, for some weird reason, I thought it gave decent skin tone….😅
That’s not so much a feature of the color quality but the differing diffusion techniques.
Awesome comparison , Judd. At what kelvins you were when you made the comparison? 3200k or 5600k? Thanks!
3200K.
@@curtisjudd Thanks! I really appriciate it! :)
Curtis, this is slightly disappointing that in 2023, we still have that gap. I know the Amaran 200X S did great but that's just one light, that means most of the market is not really delivering this level of SSI as the 200X s.
Consider that less than 10 years ago, LEDs were not really a viable option for video, at least not at prices like these. That’s some pretty quick advancement.
@@curtisjudd Oh yeah, that's true.
Could you please tell me what's the budget rgbacl led? nanlite 60C?
Yes.
I'm relatively new to the field of lighting so it was nice to see how well the Amarans perform considering I've never used anything else for any considerable amount of time. Thank you for this quality content.
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Nice!
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What about an HMI comparison?
We don't have an HMI on hand, that's part of what kept us from doing a longer video on this topic.
@@curtisjudd no rentals?
@@w500nmmostly time and money.
And also, the intended audience was independent, small budget creators who aren’t likely to use HMI instruments.
@@curtisjudd don’t you profit from these videos somehow lol, jk. I own joker 800 and know the difference, would just love for other people to learn about them, don’t see much on CZcams.
Seemed to me the LED camera was not in focus?
It was, just confirmed. 👍
@@curtisjudd OK thx, it looked off so wondered if it was the color difference or something else.
@@curtisjudd Wait, I may have misunderstood what you told me, “It was” out of focus or it was in focus? I can read that either way 😁
@@AllenCavedo It is IN focus when I check with focus peaking.
wtf tungsten makes the bg grey?
Because I had to use an umbrella to diffuse the one tungsten light I still have in my kit and umbrellas spread light everywhere. Focus on the color chart and the skin tones for this comparison, not the background.
@@curtisjudd good to know
but imo that may be important too
ease of use is pretty vital
especially with less professional users (me probably)
@@NorroTaku agreed. Quality LEDs have many advantages.
Yes, but it’s not just about “color quality” (that would be the minimum requirement for seriously thinking about replacing tungsten (factoring in cost of purchase vs running tungsten HOT 🥵)
But “throw” - theaters still use tungsten because those lights can cast their spectrum at far greater distances - where you can’t have an - equally good - LED up on the stage with the talent… like a boom mic
Sorry, I was speaking in the context of video production, not stage lighting.
NP - I’m just one of those rare individuals trying to mix and match both… 😁