This GENIUS Stratocaster Setup Makes Your TREMOLO Bend In Tune
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- čas přidán 31. 07. 2024
- Luthier Galeazzo Frudua's video on how to set up your Strat bridge to bend in tune like I show in the video: • How To Set up a Strat ...
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00:00 How it sounds
01:18 What it is
02:27 Melodic Lick 1
03:25 Melodic Lick 2
04:55 How to set up your guitar this way
05:33 Melodic Lick 3
05:57 Double Stop Lick
07:02 Bending Chords Lick 1
08:27 Bending Chords Lick 2
09:38 The lower strings
11:06 Bending Chords Lick 3 (YMMV)
12:24 How to find new chord licks with this idea
13:42 Please do this :-)
I just came across something so cool that I can't resist sharing it with you.
So apparently somebody came up with a way to set up your guitar tremolo so that it bends the notes in tune.
(just watch the first few seconds of the video below...)
And it's not a new thing! They discovered this in the 70's or earlier!
And I just found out!
How is that nobody knows about this?
I've always wondered how Jeff Beck used the tremolo to bend notes up to pitch... I guessed that he was really really good...
... but it was much easier than that! (You could do that too in a few minutes!)
Funny thing - the moment they showed me this, I thought "this is physically impossible".
(Now this is particularly embarrassing for me, because I have a degree in Physics... )
See, not only the notes bend in tune, but different strings bend up a different amount... it didn't seem to make any sense. "Can't work" I thought.
But I am still a scientist.
So, despite my skepticism, I performed the experiment. I set up two of my guitars that way.
It's the science things to do!
... and what do you know, I was wrong. Completely, utterly wrong.
The strings are bending up to the correct pitch... it's like magic.
I'm having the time of my life finding out the musical possibilities of this :-) Melodies, double stops, bending chords into different chords...
... and I'm showing you everything about it in this video.
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I love seeing the joy on your face as you demonstrate this wonderful setup. Thank you for sharing your experience with this!
I found Frudua's setup video many years ago. Much like you I was skeptical at first but took the time to follow it and was convinced it really works exactly as promised, time and time again.
This is the first video I've found on CZcams where someone gives a demo of how amazing this setup really is. I'd love to see you do another video on it with more examples.
That is quite brilliant! I always hard-tailed my Strat, but knowing exactly what it is going to bend to, that is invaluable.
Wow man this is such an awesome technique & guitar lesson right here I love it.😃👍
yeah, I have seen his videos, it works. A really great luthier, who explains things lucidly.
It is awesome, thanks to share with us. Love this trick. Yes, I agree with him, it does the Jeff Beck trick.
Frudua è sempre Frudua! Riesce a tirare fuori setup pzzeschi con poco o niente strumentazione!
Thanks my man. I have always set up my Strat One half step when pulling up on bar. But I did not realize what that ends up doing. The most I got out of it was two single trick band that I did exactly like you do. I hit one string, slide up to step pull the bar up, I have, slide string back to half steps while releasing the bar. Sounded like a bee bender. But this will give me something that I can work on, just finding all the cords that sound cool when bent up. I don’t know the neck as well as you. But I can hear:) sincerely, thank you
👍🏼
Can’t wait to do this. Just having mine bend in tune on the G string has given my some cool ass sounds.
Troppo figo 🤘🏽😎
Reminiscent of John Mayer “Gravity” intro live.👍
Pretty cool reverb on the voice here!
I believe that Mr. Beck's people will be coming for you now!! Haha. You are right in saying there are so many possibilities. And if it happens there are a few more people that sound a little like Jeff Beck in this world that ain't a bad thing .
We all stole stuff from Jeff Beck. Often through other players...
I was reading an interview this morning where Malmsteen was trashing Beck's sense of pitch. I'm glad my ears are dead.
Well... on that specific track that Malmsteen criticized there are a few false notes. Now, you may like that or not, but Yngwie has a point there (he could not believe it was Jeff Beck either)
Thanks 😄
I've had my guitars set-up this way for years and yes, I got it from Frudua's videos.
People don't realise how good the old vibrato always was on Strat's.
Agreed. And I have a few Floyd Roses too, but the Strat bridge is special.
Me 2.
That is cool.
The way your having fun with your Strat, you'd have a blast with the last vibrato system that Leo Fender designed and put on his G&L guitars. They're made to float. Bend up, bend down, it's all good stuff!
I'd love to try one.
@@MusicTheoryForGuitar I have an older MIK (Made In Korea) Tribute Legacy. I really like the PTB system (Passive Treble & Bass) that Leo put on them. It's nice to be able to shape the tone of all three pickups. I bought it used to see if I'd like the PTB and vibrato systems, and I've become extremely fond of them both. The vibrato stays in tune very well.
@@MusicTheoryForGuitar I use .010 - .046 strings on it with no tuning issues. I've read that the .009 sets sometimes have tuning instability.
That PTB system looks interesting. The schematic is really easy, I may try it. As for strings, I have everything form 9 to 11 on my guitars, and I haven't found tuning instabilities.
I love it! The best word I can think of to describe it is "cosmic". This modification should be officially called a "cosmic bridge"
I like that! :)
Wow first time (certainly last time as well) that I don’t learn something from your video 😜. Kidding of course because to setup it up is one thing (which I actually did years ago, big thanks to Frudua’s video) but your creative approach of musical possibilities around it is cool. It’s all about music right? 😉
Yes!
What kind of sorcery is this! Wow!
Right? It's unbelievable...
Neat!
Naia Izumi uses a lot of creative tremolo tricks like this. He's on YT and Instagram... There's an entire army of Neo Soul players coming up with new techniques every day. Melanie Faye is another great one.
It's a guitar renaissance! :)
And this kinda just blew my mind. Very cool!
The pitch deviation when pulled depends on the strings. A set of 9s will usually provide the combination of semitone, tone and minor third seen here but a heavier set or one with a wound G would behave differently.
I have different set of strings on my Strats, and it works with both. I'm not so sure the gauge is important.
(1) "Tremolo bar" is a misnomer ... It should be "vibrato bar."
(2) This is something that you could probably program with some digital guitar synthesizers. I have a Roland that allows you to change the pitch on each string (so you don't have to retune), but I'm not sure whether you could (say) use the foot pedal to change that difference while you're playing.
(3) What about harmonics? It seems like you can do artificial harmonics of notes close to G, B, and E by playing a natural harmonic for that string and bending up.
(4) You should be able to get some neat possibilities with microtones by only bending up part way. (As a physicst, you might be asking now: Is this a linear relationship, or exponential, or what? 8-) )
(5) What about other models of guitar?
[EDIT: a few other ideas I had forgotten about]
(6) Play the D# on the B string along with the open E, then bend up to create a unison (F). Similarly, play Bb on the G string and the open B, bend up to create a unison.
(7) What if you retune your Strat, for example to EADGCF; does this still work?
1. Yup. But the misnomer is more popular. I have already several "heretical" ideas in this channel, I'm picking my battles.
3. Yes harmonics totally work.
4. Linear as far as I can tell
6. Yes :)
7. No idea. Someone wants to try?
I have two of my strats set up this way. It's fun to play with.
Are there any disadvantages?
@@Missile_Command Not that i've found.
What about tremolo behavior when you make your pitch lower? I have a hard time to make it return back to original pitch. Every 10-15 minutes with several bends and guitar have to be tuned again.
@@sergeyv4908 I play mostly in studio so i tune between takes anyway.
There are a few tricks to make the tremolo come back in tune. I think Frudua has a couple of them in his channel (see the video I linked in the description)
Staying in tune. Probably something to do with the diamater /tension of the string. A different gauge will give different results. I think.
Super idea anyhow 😀
I have different gauges on my two starts, and it works the same :-)
Hello i have a problem. Once the guitar is in tune when using the tremolo, the tone of the first string is raised and after the band returns to the tone. The guitar is a Malmstein fender. Can anyone help?
Thanks! for covering the musical aspect of the tremolo, not seen many videos on that. Sorry if this is a stupid question, but you only talked about bending up. What about bending down. I thought the tremolo arm always landed at a central point from where you can go up or down.
For bending down, you still have to go by ear and it's not clear to me that the intervals produced are as nice as they are for bending up.
@@MusicTheoryForGuitar Ahhhh it’s a choice, I see, thanks. Relieved to know that at least I wasn’t fully wrong 😀
The wound strings might be binding at the nut. That could contribute to why it is different on each guitar
However, it does not explain why the G, B, E strings always behave the *same*.
@@christopherheckman7957 Unwound strings are less likely to get hung up on the nut. If the nut was cut bad enough for the plane strings to "ping" and grab in the slots, they wouldn't act the same
A reasonable hypothesis, but this is not the case - it seems to happen even if the strings are not binding. I think the height of the string at the bridge is more likely the reason why the lower 3 strings reach different pitches. The relative height of the first 3 strings seems fairly constant between guitars/players, but the relative height of the low 3 does not. I might be wrong on this point of course.
@@MusicTheoryForGuitar That could be the case
Is this the same technique Hendrix used in All Along the Watchtower? My guitar teacher a long time ago said it had to be a pedal steel
I don't know. Maybe!
@@MusicTheoryForGuitar ❤️
The Italian, was it Frudua? He posted a lot of great videos.
Yes!
Is that possible because the position of the bridge can be individually adjusted for each string? The tone produced by the vibration of the string depends on its length and tension, while the tone variation per unit torque from the tremolo bar depends on the length of the string (individually adjustable on the bridge for each string). Hope you are doing well Tommaso! Greetings from San Francisco :)
Hey Nicola, long time no see :)
My guess is that the lever arm for each string is slightly different, since strings are not all at the same length respect to the fulcrum. And there is also the matter that the linear density of the strings is different (but I haven't run the equations yet, so I don't know if this matters).
What are you doing in San Francisco?
The melodic possibilities aren't the most important to me here. I just want my guitar to stay in tune! 😄
I have a question, if i change the tuning of my guitar, will the fretboard alphabet remain the same as the standard e tuning or will it change?
As long as the intervals between the notes you have tuned each string to are consistent, you can use all of the same patterns. Basically if each string is raised or lowered the same it will work. Example, if you down tune each string a half step the notes are E flat, A flat, D flat, G flat, B flat, E flat. If you the play what would be an E major chord shape on a standard tuned guitar, the resulting sound will be an E flat major chord. The alphabet remains the same but each note is moved up one fret (half step) since you lowered each open string a half step.
Is the twang bar king in on this?
2:15 That face tho
Can't contain myself :)
oh that's right you're a physicist!
physics/intonation questions: should the fret board not be elliptical (foci at nut and bridge) so fretting any note stretches the string the same amount? are the string lengths above the nut decreasing string stiffness by the wrong amounts to give correct intonation?
I don't think there's an appreciable difference just by fretting, but if you use the tremolo arm, or bend strings, they end up being off by a significant amount because of elasticity, and I guess string length behind the fret by some degree. There's a company that sells string sets that alleviate that. I personally think it's part of the guitar sound and it doesn't bother me.
It's (at least) a second-order effect. And the practical difference between constant-curvature fretboard and elliptical fretboard (in the direction you mean it) would be minimal. The error in placement of the frets and variation in pressure on the string/fret from a player are bigger effects. (WARNING: this on a back-of-the-envelope calculation. If someone solves the equations properly and finds something different I'd be curious to know)
The fretboard actually is curved, the curvature is controllable by the truss rod, and you want a little bit of relief in the neck because of the elliptical nature of the string's movement. As for the equal string height to the fret across the fretboard - that's exactly why you can't have that. You'll get extra fret buzz.
@@animaegray you haven't understood my question
@@5naxalotl you haven’t understood his answer. If you have asked something else, you should quit music. Intonation is the task of the musician, not the instrument. It is easily achievable since the orchestral strings have been doing it for centuries. Frets allow bends and a pick while sustaining the note. Not perfect intonation.
I know this guy from his Beatles vocal harmony channel.
Jeff Beck much? He took this idea to the stratosphere
What Strat are you using?
American Professional II. Loving it.
Watch Carl Vehyn too
What kind of bridge is it?
Standard 2-point bridge, but it works for a 6-point bridge too.
Have a sip of water!
And the pedal steel guitar was born.
What sort of physics did/do you do?
Tommaso is an Theoretical physicist.
@@frenchiesfrankieandhenry So am I. That covers a lot of ground, which is why I was asking.
It does cover a lot of ground. I was on the solid state/ information theory / dynamical systems side, with a thesis on biological population dynamics. You?
@@MusicTheoryForGuitar Well that sounds like fun. Lotka-Volterra and so on? I've always found dynamical systems theory interesting and thought it unfortunate that chaos/catastrophe theory got so overhyped because there really are some useful tools in there. I myself was modeling star formation and ended up doing so much computer work that I went into that instead.
@@artiefischel2579 That stuff, only with stochastic equations + spatially explicit, so you get all the interesting 'critical dimensions' thing. (like: this works in 2D, but it's impossible in 3D). And yes, lots of computer simulations too, but lots of analytical work to balance it. Interesting detail: I did my PhD at Sissa/Isas in Triest, Italy, in front of the bay that Mr. Volterra took his data from ;-) and (less fun) few Kms from Duino, where Boltzmann killed himself.
That link does not work for me.
Let's try again: czcams.com/video/7luUzgDwwcs/video.html
@@MusicTheoryForGuitar OK works now. Thanx
Sounds kinda like playing slide
That a new guitar?
Yup :)
@@MusicTheoryForGuitar nice. Looks sweet!
@@MusicTheoryForGuitar i know that feeling. Same thing with my Ibanez prestige frozen ocean. It played amazingly and Once I set the intonation and truss rod it played perfectly.
Master, I know you always answer and comment our messages in here, but never reply anything on Facebook... Is there a reason for that?
Because YT sends me updates, and FB does not, despite me setting it to receive updates...
@@MusicTheoryForGuitar I get it... Ty master!
"Magic" ?
"Sufficiently advanced technology"
It seems like something beginners would love but artistic, experienced guitarists may not care for as it limits the nuance of bending notes.
I'm not so sure. Once you know how far the tremolo (technically, vibrato) bar bends up on its full range, you can then look for the "halfway point"; i.e., where does an E on the 2nd string become an F. You can also do quartertones as well.
Find me any strat trem player that has used a minor third bend ever on the top two strings with the bar.
Floyd’s have been around forever because strats don’t do enough. This is a great compromise.
Yup, "beginners" like Jeff Beck or Carl Verheyen...
I'd rather hear Tomaso plug his course than watch an annoying ad.
It’s not new, in fact if you set up to exact Fender 1950s instructions you get the intervals, this assumes you are using recommended string gauge. I am an engineer and your fascination makes me doubt you are a physicist especially when you said it was magic, it’s simply mechanics.
It is not obvious to me from the string equation I know that the top 3 strings would bend exactly (or even approximately) at the right pitches. If it's obvious to you, more power to you.
@@MusicTheoryForGuitar has nothing to do with, I didn’t create the rules of the universe. Stop making it personal with your apparent false kindness.
@@bluwng If you prefer me to be rude, then you can shove it.
Sounds silly.
Yup. Like everything genius at first.