Is Paying For Spiritual Work Right Or Wrong? Channeling Jesus
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I have no problem paying people for their time and their talents.
Totally agree!
I've had a spiritual practise for over a decade and not one person ever complained about paying seeing how beneficial it is along their awakening journey which at times is very deeply challenging as we go through the death of the Ego. Tina is channeling endless amounts of free channeling on CZcams and never asks for donations which accounts for her honesty in truly wanting to help others. I run biweekly group sessions for free as well knowing that when we come together in person helps reach deeper levels of healing which is why Tina's retreats are extremely valuable for our expansion on all levels of our being. Her monthly along with annual fees are incredibly priced indeed 👍🙏👍 Thank you Tina and Jesus for all your teachings that are priceless 💫❤💫
There is no right or wrong. Each person chooses what feels right to them. Jesus is love not judgement.
I used to work in a 9 to 5 job with Bills and an existing mortgage. I had alot of people asking me to start doing readings and healings but the bills and my payments to keep my house existed still. Without charging for my time I would have been homeless. Literally. Not charging wasn't even an option. Baring in mind I spend years developing my skills. Instead of using my skills I spend a-lot of time teaching people how to do what I do. You can take away those skills forever. Often I'll tell clients, instead of doing it for you, let me show you how to do it yourself. Myself and my client find that very empowering. Much Love. AQ
Thanks a million beautiful Jesus and beautiful Tina 🌟🌼💥💫🌟🌼💥💫
Thank you Jesus for confirming my thoughts on this! I let my clients appreciate me with money or other exchanges and I purposely let them decide the value.. Most of them come back because they undervalued me and want to pay more💫! It's a beautiful system of energy exchange..
Acim addition psychopherapy:purposes, proces and practice, page 37 III the question of payment. Jesus is clear about this subject! Read All the chapters. Very interesting. Have you Read it?
What Jesus says in the mentioned acim text is very difference from the channeling. Have you Read the text Tina?
I haven't read it but that is interesting to know.
We are all looking for someone to give us guidance, tell us what to think or feel when we have our own internal guidance system that we need to follow. I have come away from getting my information from this or that spiritual person. It doesn't resonate with me anymore... If we can quiet our mind and live in the now, loving and being grateful, we would have more peace. I have loved all of Tina's videos over the years but it is time to take responsibility for my thoughts and actions. It is a work in process🌻🌞🌥🔆
No problem with requesting payment before or after the channelled message. But not during it. This is not how Jesus interacts with me.
"Rentors don't look after houses as well as owners" - absolutely not true! This is such a biased generalisation. 😢
It is an example, not a criticism of you or your circumstance. Look deeper into judgement.
@@tmcnwm It's a judgement though, which is why I question it's being channeled by a higher vibrational energy|being at all. Higher vibrational beings don't really deal in duality, because it's part of the illusion - nor do I encounter them "teaching" in such a way. This would be an example of what a human ego would come up with.
Not every single renter. But the majority
Great 👍🏼 message. Thank U Jesus & Tina. 😊❤Blessings ❤👍🏼
Thankyou Tina and Jesus ! Ive never been to a retreat . Maybe in my future. I study on my own for now and watch free youtube videos😊 . If i do go of course i have no problem paying for the retreat . It cost money to make a retreat happen and those running the retreat need to be paid so they can pay their bills allowing them to continue such valuable work .
I have no problem paying or getting paid for spiritual work. It’s all about value and appreciation. I do question some spiritual workers when they expect it or taking subscribers for granted. It was not just the $33, a month, it was all the add ons, and some of the attitudes around it. I finally unsubscribed when you were to busy to honor the month subscribers and gave both you and Carol a paid sick month. You could have honored those who paid and did make up sessions over time. It was announced with a bit of attitude. Many of us separately had the same reaction and all unsubscribed. A thousand plus subscribers at $33 a month for 2 - hour and a half changelings is quit a good living. When I see this I now ask. Am I investing in spiritual work that demonstrates abundance or am I contributing to someone else abundant lifestyle. I followed and invested for a few years..there was also an issue around recordings of a retreat, the were hundreds of dollars and your subscribers were upset so you removed the recordings 😮
I like your work, however the money attitude was unattractive.
Hey Tina, how come we're not hearing from you and Yeshua? What's up? A lot is happening and I'm sure people would've loved to hear from Jesus. Hope you're doing okay. Sending you blessings and much love. Namaste.
God bless you how can I reach you
Jesus speaks like a person....
Funny how people don’t mind splashing out on their addictions but pay for something that’s good for you…aaahh!
Yeah, when I read comments such as this I'm starting to realize that certain spiritual communities are really just "service to self" being disguised as spiritual enlightenment. More discernment is needed. When we are balancing our spiritual work, it's a combination of going within to work on self so we can also be in service to others (--> Thank you Jules 😉) Not being in judgement about their "addictions" and judging what they are doing.
Again, i am the first one to watch it 😊
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The only way you could ever receive this low a following with this many beautiful videos is if you were censored. So well done guys, you are doing a great job. ❤
I don't agree with this as being trance mediumship or mediumship in general. This is inspired speaking from the soul. Perhaps there is a misunderstanding?
Tina what does Jesus look like . Is that him in Akaine’s painting ?????
Anyone know what happened to Tina? She hasn't posted for months now.
Opt out if it's not right for u... free will and all that!
How could there be anything MORE important to pay for? No matter what our income?
Well i didn't have a roof in winter. Discovered that's still important.
Sure! But would you prefer the guidance or the roof? And remember, you CAN have both :)
@@edlovecoaching Speaking for myself, if I only have the income for one, it's going on the roof. Likewise, if I only have it for food, it's going on the food. No, everybody does NOT have it for both so stop judging them like they are doing something "wrong" if they don't.
How am I judging? I'm offering another perspective. It's optional. And sure, right now, our funds are fixed. And that can change.
@@edlovecoaching This whole channeling is steeped in judgement along with many of the comments that have followed in support of it. I've just been shaking my head reading them. Clearly, people are stuck in their own ego feeling the need to "justify" why they are charging for spiritual services and going after people who feel differently. I mean, whatever, I don't get all bent out of shape over it; it is 3D after all, and people have done what they needed to in order to get money to survive in the system but that's all it is. I do; however, draw the line at any "messages" passing themselves off as "spiritual enlightenment" when they tell people they don't really value things, or spiritual information, if they don't "pay" for it and receive it for "free." That's just not true and higher consciousness is NOT channeling that type of perspective because they aren't in duality. We are. I mean, you mentioned having different perspectives and the importance of the guidance, right? Well, another perspective is that if the spiritual guidance is so important for ascension and a global awakening for every soul, it's not accessible to everybody on the planet because money is not something everybody has to spare. It blocks the spread of what so many in the spiritual communities claim is important for the shift of humanity, because it's being set up behind a money wall. The monetary system has been designed to operate that way on purpose, to control & limit, so why create content that goes after those who can't dish the extra money out beyond their basic living necessities and low-key tell them - it's your fault. That's the judgement and what I am getting at here. What some other lightworkers are pointing out is simply wanting to see the collective eventually moving beyond such limiting forms of energy exchange in love, empathy, & compassion and inclusion for all. I think many in the spiritual communities are still comfortable with the old ways as long as they make out well or have what they need individually and get fearful with the idea of "letting go." Which is why I feel a lot of triggered emotions rise to the surface when they encounter others who may not believe in paying for the spiritual knowledge. Yeah, I agree things can change for us, and that's great at the individual level, but everyone has to deal in their now moment because that's all there really is. Which, means, not everyone will have the same hierarchical level of financial resources and that does not make them any less deserving of the truth nor are erroneous messages stating the idea that "owners care better for a property then renters," as this video channeling does, free of ego & judgement. And we should care at the collective level if we are really all ONE. A balance of working on self but also being in service to the greater whole.
Its your time people pay for. Not just a connection. Tgey pay for an hour of your time.
I would seperate A Course in Miracles from Tina.
Can you please post something new for free...?for the ones who can not pay for it because they have no money left.....we miss jesus guidance and tinas work so much...
in my opinion, it is right, but not according to skeptics. Because mainly they don't like sharlatons making money from people who believe. But their problem is they don't know the difference between a truth speaker. Also they think because money is involved its bias information. But in my opinion if people spend their time and efforts then they should get contributions, because, they sitll have bills to pay.
Tina looks well
She is well fed from LYING 🤥 and GRIFTING people for MONEY 💰
If one doesn't value spiritual information enough to pay for it, it's because you don't value it. I can't believe that this even has to be talked about. Spiritual = Poor is an outdated paradigm and is the reason the information never got out there in the first place. Be grateful this spiritual information is there now and that those who can delivery it to you now have a platform to so easily. I've worked my ass off to learn what I know and now I teach it to others. I owe it to myself to make a living at something I'm skilled in. (And no, my CZcams channel does not reside under this name.)
There is just so much untruth within the statement "if you don't value spiritual information enough to pay for it; it's because you don't value it" that, yeah, I can't even. LOL. My god, can an ego shout any louder in judgement?
Let me share something about MY experiences. I've lived a life with material lack but I now understand the reason for it. It kept me humble and in touch with more empathy & compassion for others and I certainty wouldn't be drawing ridiculous conclusions such as this. I wanted to burst out laughing (ie. Not because it was actually funny) when the channeling used the comparison about owners vs. Renters, and owners caring|taking care of things better because they value it more? Holy * bleep.* All I could think of is our own slum land lord who expects rent on time, will not do any proper repairs, they will go as cheap as they can, and how this is a rampant issue amongst the poorer communities. I also have empathy and understanding for these people when they don't complain because they don't want to be kicked out & become homeless. The expenses for moving are becoming more outlandish. They don't have it. Period. And I refuse to not call out the system for what it is. Especially with tenant laws in favor of the owner. But, yeah, them landlords sure are on some pedestal over all those unappreciative renters, huh? No way that type of message came through a higher dimensional channel; there is definitely filter bias here that I'm picking up on.
See, when I was fortunate enough to get things for "free," it actually made me appreciate it all the more. Why? Because I couldn't just take it for granted like I would have been able to if I had the money to just slap down whenever I felt like it. The insinuation that getting it "free" made me value what I got less, is quite frankly, obnoxious. How do you know that wasn't the universe's way of bringing something to me? Nor do we have the right to speak for others. See, I have empathy for others experiencing what I have; I don't stick my nose up with the attitude of "Well, I didn't get it for free or if I had to do it a certain way, they should be made to too." Ick.
You know, you say Spiritual = Poor is a paradigm that should be dropped and while I agree that we don't have to be poor to be spiritual; there certainly are many poor people who ARE in fact spiritual. I noticed the trend in spiritual communities going with the new paradigm of poor = lack mentality and its a crafty form of manipulation|gaslighting aimed at the lower financial class or at other lightworkers who bring attention to the 3D money matrix operation holding back knowledge in spiritual circles. It's sad but I'm starting to get the sense that such communities are transitioning into the new "Spiritual Elite" and ascension being treated as a "luxury" for the chosen few who can afford it. That's basically what the Dark Ones have played out; hording information for their "chosen" inside secret societies while the majority was kept in ignorance. The point some lightworkers are making is money is a very limited form of exchange and we would like to eventually start evolving past that collectively with more open energy exchanges available to everyone. There is no such thing as "money" in the 5D civilizations and people aren't discluded and told it's "their own fault;" one look into Telos highlighted that for me.
You know, the only thing that really resonated for me in this channeling was the message to just do what you can based on what you have available to you in the now moment because whether that was legit channeled through higher consciousness or not; it still rings true. And thankfully I'm connected in enough with my own understanding that universe|source|whatever has my back and will make a way for me regardless, even if I can't "pay" for something. I will be where I need to be. But man, the attitude on this from the spiritual community. Yeah, you can say I'm triggered and I can go within to work on that but clearly others who get triggered by others who challenge charging for "spiritual services" can do the same. We've all been trying to navigate our way through the 3D matrix and finding ways to survive in it because money is still the control mechanism used to do mostly anything or go anywhere. People can just say that though - I charge for spiritual services because I need the money. I have more respect for that, moreso then getting on some soapbox and looking their noses down on people who don't charge or don't believe in it and pass it off like they're "spiritually" superior for putting these people in their place.
Example, this channel has resonated for me less and less compared to how it used to, so I listen in on occasion if I feel moved to. Of course, I appreciated the "free" video content but I don't have to just accept something because it's free either. And don't worry, I don't need to know your real YT channel because I wouldn't even go searching you out if I didn't feel aligned.
@@heathergraham2581 I recommend A studying Course in Miracles with Tina. It will help you greatly and change your life. I promise.
@@YT-Viewer Thanks but no thanks. . Not looking to be programmed; I take all dogma with a grain of salt and follow my own inner guidance. Can't afford the luxury of being "enlightened" in this way anyway, even if I wanted to. 😆 And according to the "message," I wouldn't even be in a place to "value" it enough because I can't "pay" remember? 🙄 I'll stick to what aligns for me and what I resonate with, which is what any higher vibe message would advise because higher consciousness honors our paths. And I'll pass, especially if what is coming out of it is what I heard and read above. But, hey, you continue to do you. ✌️
@@heathergraham2581 There is a lot of free stuff out there. I think you will love William Forbes, all free, and on Fridays he answers questions for free. @williammichaelforbes
William Michael Forbes - Toranto Medium
There is no way Jesus would ask anyone to pay! Never
Miserliness is a negative, low vibe emotion. Giving is a high vibe virtue causing abundance. Cause and effect. You attract what you give out. It's your choice.
Jesus had to eat too...money is the currency. You pay for what you get so maybe you think you are not worth it...just musing
@@tmcnwm Is there something you know about Jesus that I don't? Like, are you telling me the reason he had just 12 disciples was because he was only interested in teaching spiritual truth to the ones who could pay? And, oh well, to the rest who would have listened but were poor? Yet, according to other information Tina has channeled, he actually had way more than 12 and something tells me he wasn't taking "payments" at the door.
He had alot more than 12 disciples, and many of them women. Please don't confuse the manipulated (time and time again during its long history) Bible texts with what really happened then. You can read Jesus, my autobiography channeled book.
@@LyoN003x Yes, I know, I was being facetious with that example. Jesus had many disciples, including women, because I highly doubt he was asking for payment at the door,.and if they didn't have it, turning them away while telling them "if I give you this enlightenment information for free, you won't value it as much." That is my point.