How Pieter Levels Makes $2.7M/Year With 0 Employees
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Shaan Puri (@ShaanVP - / shaanvp ) and Sam Parr (@TheSamParr - / thesamparr ) talk to Pieter Levels (@levelsio - / levelsio ) about being a solopreneur who makes nearly $3M a year with no employees while living a nomadic lifestyle.
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Show Notes:
(00:00) - Intro
(01:32) - How Sam gets in touch with people
(04:50) - How much Pieter makes
(12:20) - How to become a hit solopreneur
(17:55) - What Pieter uses to build
(21:23) - Building to earn vs. building to sell
(24:09) - How movements grow
(28:20) - Thinking big as a solopreneur/Indie Hacker
(31:55) - Businesses that could earn you $20k a month
(40:45) - How Pieter spends and invests his money
(46:40) - Why Pieter believes in Asia
(50:34) - What Pieter spends money on
(59:30) - Who Peter admires
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I'm seriously flabbergasted by the constant interruptions while the guest was in the midst of sharing insightful thoughts. The interviewers' tendency to interject and divert the conversation was not only frustrating but truly did a disservice to the guest, who clearly had so much more to offer. Interrupting is often considered one of the top rookie mistakes in podcast interviewing. Just some feedback I'd like to share; still wish you guys the best.
Same. The two hosts talk about themselves too much. I've already watched so many videos about them, so I wanted to hear about Pieter.
Idiot tech bros
THIS!!!
Yeah I couldn’t believe how they’d ask a question and immediately interrupt before the guest could even start speaking
Stop interrupting the guest. The channel would improve by letting the guest speak more.
Shaan speaks too much with little substance
@@cwaddlekm😢 LLL like on kol I think it's a great idea I was
Leh
Most of these guys don’t know how to interview
I completely agree. Though I love these guys, let the interviewer connect his sentences .
Pieter Levels is like from another planet for these guys.
- Interviewer: ...Money.... Revenue... Growth.
- Pieter: Truth... lifestyle... friends... family.
He's on another level, if you will.
Well... this podcast is all about money, revenue and growth. Did you even notice the name of the podcast is My First Million?
you just not smart enough to understand, he doesnt try to be "honest", he wants to brag about his salary, and he use "honestly" as the reason to brag, otherwise it would look bad. He is addicted to attention, otherwise he wouldn't brag all day about his salary and servers expenses. Basically this is a guy who build really nothing+nothing, running after current fashions, and never get really deep into anything. Yea he makes money because he did one digital nomad project that brought him so much hype in which he uses to get more people to other useless projects, but as you know this effect will not keep forever.
yeah, revolutionary
@@rantg imagine not having anything to brag about
Love Pieter but the interviewers interrupted him so many times. So annoying.
The interviewers need to spend a year in nature
Thats what we do here.
worst interviewers ever seen
You have to remember that there are possible delays in the video feeds that cause people to start talking at awkward moments. It happens..
Great interview. Just didn't like it when Pieter was cut short while he was fleshing out his thoughts.
I feel same way
Yea he has a lot of stories
Same. Made it worse.
Same. The interviewers seem nice, but I legitimately could not finish watching this
can’t agree more
Success is not built on success. It's built on failure, It's built on fraustration. it's built on fear that you have to overcome. I pray that anyone who reads this will be successful in life
You are right.!
That is why I had to start forex trading 2months ago and l now am making benefits from it.!
My first investment with Victoria Alejandro gave me profit of over $80,000 Us dollar....
And I can even say she is the sincere broker I know....
@@luckywealth8639O' Yes I'm a living testimony of Mrs Victoria Alejandro.!
The presenters are really quite annoying with their constant interrupting! Pieter sounds like he has some really interesting and inspiring stuff to say but you barely let him finish his sentences before you interrupt him to talk about your own off-topic tangent. Be less self-centered and focus more on letting your guest spread their thoughts.
literally
Yep! They are so annoying. Pieter is fascinating though.
100% I like that they get done great guests but they need to be more like Joe Rogan and be quiet. Let the guests share. We’re interested in the guests not the interviewer
Been following Pieter for years! Happy you were able to get him on the pod. As a software developer - he is 100% correct with people not understanding the complexities behind websites. Great episode!
The interviewers interrupted way too much, or just tried to belittle Pieter, instead of allowing the audience to learn more about how his games work.
It’s a waste of having such an amazing guest with such questions/interview structure
100% agree. They don't let the guy answer the questions. They ask the question, he answers a little and then they interrupt and end up answering their own questions. It was hyper annoying to listen to.
Agree, they make it about themselves, and how successful they have been. They need to let the super interesting guest talk.
Yeah, unfortunately these guys never learn and must never read the comment section. They do it all the time, every time.
This! Just wanted to comment the same thing...it's so frustrating to listen to Pieter outline something interesting from his process, only for the interviewers to interrupt him with yet another question that he won't be able to answer in full. Please let this podcast guest speak!!
@@groob33 Ego problem.
Let this guy talk. Yes you got high and had some analysis that you tried to tie in with matrix and it made sense…for you when you were high. Just saying, let him talk and help flesh out into interesting topics as subtle as possible. Best interviewers are background noise. Be background noise. More is less. Keep up hard work.
Haha that's a great take, "it made sense while you were high"
Who cares
I don’t want to be a billion dollar company. I just want to make a couple million chill, you know… F…ing golden. Love this guy.
Billion dollar company = Billion dollar obsession. Freedom is the main thing (and business class) when u feel like it.
He never spoke on how he markets and brings users to his work. So many people build things that go nowhere. That would’ve been great to hear more about.
So true! doesn't matter what you build, if you can't market it, you're going nowhere
that's because only a tiny fraction of the people making things can ever be successful, that's statistics and common sense, only a few can be rich in a Capitalistic system.
Gentlemen… I have to echo what a lot of people here are mentioning regarding the interruptions. Mainly because we didn’t get to hear him wrap up some of his insights and that’s what we are here for, to get his perspective! This may seem nit-picky, hopefully you take it as constructions but I also found it very weird that one of the hosts jumped off abruptly and because of a phone call. Emergencies may pop up but it didn’t seem like it was one. Just felt awkward and like the guests time wasn’t carefully planned around. I mean all of this in the best way by the way.
That aside, glad the video was suggested. Officially going to be following up on the guest and his work.
Constructive*
Programmer Stack = ReactJS, Go, Site runs great - Site makes no money
Marketer Tech Stack = PHP, JQuery, maybe some Wordpress - Site makes 1.2M a year
Decide who you want to be.
Master programmer = go get a job
Entrepreneur = go get it done
I'm still trying hard to learn this lesson 🤣
My first listen to this pod an amazing inspiration. Excellent pod format, excellent content. Thanks to the three of you.
seriously a great episode. so glad you guys got him on the podcast
This was my favorite episode by far. Pieter Levels is inspirational in so many different ways - makes me want to step up my game!!
Suggestion: It would be nice to stream this layout with the main speaker in one large panel and Sam/Shaan in 2 smaller windows or something similar. It feels a bit awkward to have one person (active speaker) full screen and pretty zoomed in all the time for an interview style podcast and quick switching in between them.
I totally agree. Also, it would be nice if you would have a screenshot of some of Pieter Level's and other guests' content. I primarily listen to this as an audio podcast
yea agreed
interesting suggestion!
The format works as is for me. You probably would like a format like Tom Bilyeu's interview style when they are in-person both speakers can be seen in a single shot with less zoomed in and individual shots.
Never heard of any one on the show, this popped into my suggested videos and I loved listening.
I loved learning about Pieter and his story. Its very inspiring and I will definitely check out his projects.
Feedback for the podcast hosts: Its very important to give the interviewee time to speak. I know you guys love to talk and are very excited and want to chime in with comments or anecdotal stories, but that time is for the interviewee. It was really annoying to hear you cut-off the other person almost every 3 minutes that they were speaking just so you can add something to what they were saying. That kind of ruins the experience of listening for me. Allow them to finish their train of thought, then you can share something.
I agree. I wanted to hear more of this interviewees thoughts. I appreciate hosting the podcast but right before some important points, y'all interrupted.
This show popped up in my feed, too. I watched it, and got ZERO value from it. I kept watching just hoping to get something interesting from it.
Same, I wanna hear From Pieter, but too much noise from the hosts.
Pieter Levels is a great inspiration! Thanks for the podcast!!
Thank goodness you brought this up! Truly, investing has changed my perspective on how one can succeed in life; working multiple jobs isn't the optimal way to attain financial freedom and unfortunately, we discover this later in life. Currently earn as much as 10 grand weekly and this has improved my financial life. Great piece!..
Do you mind sharing info on the adviser who
assisted you? I'm 39 now and would love to
grow my portfolio and plan my retirement
She's OLIVIA SULLIVAN FINANCIALS
she's a known advisor. I actually did look her up curiously and went through her credentials on her webbsite... Top-notch! I wrote her an email, hopefully she's accepting new intakes.
I'm definitely gonna check her out. Do yo have any idea if she manages family fund?
i'm amazed by this, it has rekindled the fire to my goal.
First-time viewer, immediate subscriber. Thanks for the great content.
The interviewers were doing too much of the talking for my liking, especially near the beginning, and were interrupting too much.
This is the best interview for the season of life I find myself in; I have always had ideas having worked in Financial services that I have brought in house that should be brought into the consumer market..but self doubt and no one to share the approach with has caused me to walk away; but this interview woke me up.
Following him for the last 8 years! Missing his website / blog with all the projects on it! He would write down and blog about his whole journey of building websites and monetizing it. 12 startups in 12 months! So awesome.
Success doesn't happen overnight.
It's a marathon, not a sprint. You have to pace yourself, put in the work, and be consistent day in and day out if you want to achieve your goals.
You are right, to be a successful person in life require him or her of hard work and time
The thing about been successful is working toward it and not going the other way round
Invest in one of these!
Real estate
Crypt0currency
Stock
Gold
When you invest you are buying a day you don't have to work
Talking about been successful. I know I am blessed if not I wouldn't have met someone is as spectacular as Anna S Wilson
Inspirational! Thanks
For me the ideal number of employees is zero. I use freelancers/contractors but never hire anyone on perm and done well but I'd love to grow further without needing to hire
What work you do?
I love this podcast, such an incredible place to learn how entrepreneurs are growing their businesses
I love Piet. One of my biggest inspirations. Don't underestimate how hard this guy works.
Do you know how hard this guy works at grifting?
@@DAL201107 what do you mean
@@DAL201107 In what way? Seems quiite transparent in what he does
From what he said, he barely works. He said his money makers are automated and he doesn't have to do much...
@@PLoGro24 imho barely working can mean a lot of things
(9:57) Contractors Peter Using for his Business (17:55) - What Pieter uses to build (40:45) - How Pieter spends and invests his money 1:08:00 One can steal your ideas but not your execution
You work for 40yrs to have $1M in your
retirement, meanwhile some people are putting just $10K in a meme coin from just few months ago and now they are multimillionaires......
1:09:00 yes you can automate higher ticket selling. Sam does Airbnb, he can create online sales funnels that target people on social media and get them to buy over time.
I agree about the Chinese Economy. Thanks for another informative video.
Btw, I love how you’re filming while your House Keeper is cleaning in the background. You guys are the real deal.
That’s a 100% match, looking forward to watching this episode. Cheers
php, js, jquery lol. If something is working, why change it!? Love it!
Love this guy. Taking notes!
Pieter Levels is the kind of friends I want to have around, just an honest truthful person.
Great interview! Peter is a badass. I've missed some more detail on how he gets work done.. What his planning strategy is, when he knows what to tackle next, any daily software he uses to stay organized with all these projects he runs.. etc.. Maybe next time? :)
Remarkable and Outstanding work.
Very interesting episode!
Love this show 💓
Thing about renting furniture is; if you have pet allergies, or what if the other people have bed bugs (some people don't react to the bites).
Wow, enjoying this so much.
I can totally relate to Pieter Levels and lived like he did, but a wife and child did change the lifestyle. Loved this interview!
Top interview Pieter! groeten uit Curacao :-)
I wish you could have let him talk more and interrupted less.
Let Pieter talk guys!
Pieter has a bit of an ego from time to time, but overall solid guy doing solid work. Quite unbelievable that there are SaaS companies doing less ARR in a year with teams of 30/40/50 people.
Well, his ego is to BE him self..🤷♀️ Why being somebody else ❓🤔🤷♀️
Pieter's a great guy - super-high integrity.
I made my first “0” means payoff my debts
And now preparing my first million
Great podcast
The most awaited podcast.
My top 5 episode for sure
Roof top storage 🙂 and other roof top “real estate” use would be amazing businesses
thank you for this
Has anyone heard about the new meme project AINEMO? They are at the launch stage, the project looks interesting. I would like to know your professional opinion as an expert))). May I ask you to make a video review of this project?
Oh yes, I also heard about this project. I'm interested in their game and NFT. It must be great
I join the request for a video review!
And what can the author review? Is it real?😮
I FRIGGIN LOVE JUNGLE AND DRUM AND BASS ....AND I ALWAYS TALK ABOUT THE WAVE OF FORTUNE💞💞💞💞💞
at these sorts of earning I'd be doing my travelling on a yacht, you have a proper "home" (even with live-in staff to clean) but can see a new city every day if you want. Well done Pieter.
Awesome episode! But could have been better if Sam let Pieter speak more lol
okay. this was long time coming. about to wach it, should be a great episode!
on a separate note, man - shaan's lost a lot of weight. is it sleepless nights due to milk road or your trainer levelled you up again?
What a nice guy :-) Hats off to him.
this was a great interview, I feel very inspired.
In the right communities the Buy Nothing groups are super awesome. Keeps landfills from added junk and money for family's going to the things that matter
love drumnbass!remembering the days
Let the guy talk.
FYI, Sonder is not an aparthotel. "Apartment hotels" or aparthotels are popular in some countries outside the USA; they're hotels with rooms that are more like apartments. They have all the benefits of a hotel, but are designed for longer stays. You can stay as little as 1 night, though. Not the same as renting many rooms in an apartment and "Airbnbing" them or short-term leasing them, which is what Sonder type businesses do.
Sam you stopped pieter while talking, what are the bots he has used?
yep, that exact time period was excellent until he was cut off randomly
It’s great that you’re trying to introduce This Guy However more from the guest would be appreciated
As a nomad Im glad to have found this guy and his stuff
19:30 - If only more businesses used stacks that could fix problems more quickly. Even sites with relatively small communities with EVERYONE requesting the same feature upgrades can take month, years, or just NEVER happen lol. Thumbs up to levels
Cool interview ................ LOL @45:50 the person cleaning in the back
Pieter has a great video on CZcams from 4 years ago called "How to build a startup without finding"
great one
Several thoughts
1. This guy looks exactly like NBA player Domantas Sabonis.
2. This interview was not informative since it did not explain how he monitizes his websites. For example, how does his job board make money. Companies like ZipRecruiter had to build out a massive sales team to start generating revenue from companies.
3. There were no hard questions asked, just people sharing mindset. Where was the useful information?
Have oyu gone to his sites to see how it makes money?
Love this guy Piet. The interviewers interrupt too much!
The fact that this channel does not have at least 500 k subs still baffles me and yet there are a lot of nonsensical channels that have a huge fan following.
Was waiting for this episode from the day you guys invited him
Residence Inn was sold to Marriott years ago. A great success story.
Amazing podcast. Pieter is my hero. All these CEOs of these amazing startups are missing to share the real thing: how to find people to fill the content before you launch the app. Because if I have a great idea, but I don't have the content to put in it, how do I find it? where do I find it? Sharing on social media is not enough anymore, it's not 2014 anymore. I'm talking about this because I'm building my first startup after many failures, so this is a key point: content.
Congratulations and best of luck for your startup.
Finally!!!! Been waiting for this episode from the time Steph Smith mentioned him!🤩🤩
How does he do taxes being nomad and running so many web apps?
Cory furniture rental does $1Billion+ in revenue and was founded in 1971
These guys maybe were too young but CORT, has been a nationwide furniture rental company for decades. They´re actually global now. There are other ones too but they have always marketed more lower end since in the US the idea is you have to own everything.
You are not letting him talk! Gosh
Totally agree ask guest questions and get out of his way.
I think he should build a digital-business-building-site that’s a mashup of Canva and Kindle Direct Publishing. Here are some tools and formats and integrations to play with to then create your own software that can be marketed to the entire world and you don’t have to learn to code etc.
I move around Europe with 4 dogs, driving. EU Pet Passport needed for each one, with optional photo. Rescued - strays.
Curious wonder if he had not studied business admin if he would have the same outlook.
33:00 thanks for saying this
How do I reach out to Pieter Levels? I want to know how to move to Portugal as a US citizen and what kind of job I can do?
Sam is really fanboying in this episode :D
What a legend
Such a humble and nice guy, would love to travel with guys like him or with him 😅🙈
You wishhhh ahaha
Rebase sounds like a great idea
Will one day be on this show. Have loved the show since I started following …. Giving myself 2 years tops 😊
Shaan speaks as though he knows more about the guest's buisness more than the person himself
This is so cool
Sam you mentioned writing is a talent - any tips you've used to find talented writers for the Hustle?
Also mentioned a few times it's really hard to have journalist writers as employees 😂
1:18:00 - on not wanting to commit to a platform because of the implied work:
Business Idea: Being in a shadow CZcamsr. By this I mean, bring in a person who you like, who has your values, and being then in on every meeting/conference.
- The intent is to 'make' someone (like raising a child on fast forward) so you do not necessarily want someone who thinks they are already a big deal.
In return they create videos for CZcams with your help until they don't need it anymore about your content, plus their own.
Like an apprenticeship.
You both go up faster than you would alone
I've been trying to invent this position for myself.