I read a lot of reviews on this carbine, many were 5,6,7 years old and there seemed to be a lot of issues. Some of the more recent reviews 3,2 years ago showed less problems. I decided to buy one about a year ago. It has been my experiance so far that this is a great little shooter. I had zero break in period on mine. It ran without a FTF right out of the box, probably just dumb luck. The sights, with a bit of adjustment, are dead on at 50 yards. I put a sling on it, a stock ammo pouch, replaced the plastic bayonet lug with a metal one and added a US surplus bayonet to it...look friggin cool. As for the issue with the last round bolt open, that was a really easy fix. I simply bought Beretta FS2 magazines with the high profile follower that holds the bolt open after the last shot. I love shooting this gun and the best part is that it eat any ammo that I feed it, cheep, expensive, ball, HP and even Tulammo steel...zero issues.
I have had mine for a few years now. Zero issues. Functioned perfect out of the box. Reliable and accurate AND mine DOES have a manual bolt hold open catch. My son has one as well and his does not have the catch. Both of ours have been awesome guns and they both love my cast bullet reloads. 124 grain alox lubed round nose with 6 grains of HS-6 powder. Most accurate ammunition I have fired ao far actually. Love your review by the way. No time wasted. Precise and to the point. Well done.
Great review on a great gun. I love mine. I got it used at a pawn shop cheap. As soon as it was in my hands and I looked down the sights, I had to have it. Mine needed a good 400 rounds to break in. It loves brass casings, hates aluminum. Safe shooting!
Brief and to the point. Thank you. There's too much complaining about the rough start on this rifle, IMO. Keep shooting, or break it down and start polishing. That's what you get for the money these days. Just take it in stride unless you want to fork over $1600 for a genuine article or one of those .22 copies. To match your 9mm pistol, I don't really see downside. I'm gettin' one ASAP.
@@xhairs6123 That would be cool. I was discouraged about these cheap Chiappas but after seeing the review I may pick one up. $379.99 - can't beat the price for a 9mm rifle if it's actually half decent.
just got mine a few days ago, great little gun. Mine worked right out of the box no feeding issues, only thing i dont like about it is that the bolt dosent lock back.
Just got one like this. today at the range was great. 50 rounds, no problems at all. I saw the bad reviews and was nervous...but carbine did good with the federal 154 grain ammo.
Nice.....I have some Beretta 92 mags from my PAK9 I bought and upgraded to Glock Mags.....makes me want to buy this just to put those to use. Great no nonsense review brother! Your going to be big on youtube very quickly. Remember us little guys when you do!
The only problem I have experienced with this firearm is the magazine catch keeps dropping the mag probably as the magazine follower acts as the feed ramp.
I handled one in my local gun shop today, but wanted to read and view some reviews before buying it. I can't imagine getting the synthetic stock version instead of the walnut stock. Nothing against plastic - I love my Beretta CX4 carbine, which can share magazines with this one. I'm a little disappointed at the amount of malfunctions everyone seems to report, but I'm not taking the thing into combat or relying on it for home defense, so I think I can compromise on the reliability for a range plinker, and for the price.
Put a red dot in place of the rear sight, buy a GI style sling/oiler for $30, and mount an LED light with a barrel clamp picatinny just short of the muzzle. Perfect nighttime WTF gun. Mine's worked perfectly from first round with Remington 115 gr. FMJ bulk ammo.
Well, I wouldn't do such things to a GI carbine, but this thing is simply a pistol caliber copy. Might as well make it modern. With the red dot, mine will group the Remington ammo into about 1" @ 25 metres, which means it's accurate enough for small game hunting.
Mine still needs to be broken in. I only put about 100 rounds through so far. Stay away from US GI M9 mags and the extended mags (although they work fine with my M9). This gun doesn’t like them at all. Chiappa factory mags work the best. I heard the Beretta factory mag works too but I haven’t tried it yet.
I think it's funny that people are so obsessed with last shot hold open when the ak doesn't have one either true it be nice but 1022 doesn't have one and that's ok too but yah it be nice if it had one good review also a tip the recoil spring is what makes this so stiff and often what causes the jams I just ran some oil on mine and sat and ran the bolt back for an hour or two while watching a movie it made it wear in with no cost except for a mad wife lol
These are a nice idea, but the one I had was junk. The front sight was not straight out of the box, it was also loose. I got to about 125 rounds and the bolt broke in half. That's right the bolt broke in half. Had to send it back to Chiappa for replacement. When I got it back I sold it quick.
Wow! I was just thinking that if the slide doesn't function that great for the first 200 rounds, then maybe some +P ammo would make it chamber better. Then I read your comment. Dang.
I was very disappointed, I thought the rifle was a great idea and wanted it to work. I shot all factory Winchester ammo. Which ran great up until that point. This was two years ago, maybe the new ones are better??
I have the wood stocked version of this rifle. Mine didn't need any break in and shot reliably out of the box. The lack of a manual bolt hold open is a bit in a pain. Also, the original M1 carbine didn't lock open on an empty mag, so I didn't expect this replica to do it.
The fact the the bolt doesn't lock back is the only deal breaker for me. How are you supposed to clean it? and plastic bayonet lug? take that shit off and include bolt open function. C'mon CHiappa, how much extra would it be to add that functionality?
Could some of the jams be caused by the beretta magazines? Original beretta mags don’t have anti tilt followers. I’m interested in the rifle and already have 5 beretta mags but the reliability and it not having a bolt catch is giving me second thoughts, my other option is ruger pc carbine, but it’s more expensive and I’d have to buy a bunch of mags for it.
I'm guessing running it dry. A little weapon's lube goes a long way to prevent malfunction. I have military experience to know what I'm talking about. I'd take an AR-15 and 45 Auto side arm any day of the week over this weapon.
Initial jamming problem indicates poor machining and further problems down the road. Five hundred plus dollars says No F ing Way. I'm looking for a 9mm carbine, but don't think this one fits the bill.
The left side of my receiver just broke after 4 years of use. Very Disappointing to say the least. Hoping Chiappa will step up as that is pretty pathetic. I will let you know what happens.
I wrote a Canadian centric review that you can find on the /r/canadaguns subreddit. look up M1-9 the Poor mans PCC. 2 issues that should be considered/known before you buy, 1. Failure to Feed's are common due to the angle of the handgun magazine. (trying to maintain the straight magazine look makes the feeding angle from magazine to chamber very steep some magazines work some just don't) 2. The rear sight has a tendency to loosen and wander off since its not very well secured. @P.woods says either loctite the rear sight set screw on the rear sight base or drill a small hole for the set screw to screw into so it doesn't back out. Other than that its a sweet NR PCC woodstocked carbine that is pretty affordable.
I’m glad you decided against this for your first. Imo, a first gun should be utterly reliable as you familiarize yourself with working mechanics, techniques, and ballistics. A first gun should not give you a dozen problems to fix at the range without experience. What did you end up deciding on? My first gun was a 10-22 that failed to feed 2-3 times among over 10000 rounds and since then, I’ve gained experience with kitchen table “gunsmithing” and assembling of 7 other platforms all after i gained expertise one component at a time.
@@Chillyrabbit1 I have the .22 version, there is a 200 to 300 round break in period after that, no problems, I use mini mag rond nose solids, and federal hollow points exclusively
Five rounds for semi-auto rifle magazines. A magazine designed for a pistol can legally hold up to 10 rounds of the ammunition it was initially designed for. If that pistol magazine so fits in the rifle, or the rifle is designed to take pistol magazines then that is 100% legal. Welcome to the confusion of Canadian Gun Laws >
sounded pretty cool at first..... looks like it was made by a company that doesn't care..... factory should break it in , and mags ? whatta joke.... I live in a free state so I gotta have 30 rnd mags....sounds like it is poorly made and not well thought out . I would not recommend a gun unless I would trust it with my life..... don't trust this design / engineering.... pretty weak
The M1-9 is actually a fun gun to shoot. If you own a Beretta 92 model pistol you will have a nice carbine pistol combination. Using 124 grain ammunition from the first shot not one malfunction. The local gun store hasn’t had any customers come back to complain, they wouldn’t sell a poorly made firearm . Chiappa is a solid company. The real M1 .30 Carbine wasn’t known for reliable functionality. It was an easy gun to clear a jam and worked. Buy good ammo and stick with the factory magazines.
Now THAT'S how people should do a gun review. No wasting time, no BS, straight to the F#$@n point... well done.
7-1-24. Shot my today. All four mags I have had no jams. Worked like a champ. Fun gun. Great review.
Good review, to the point.
Thanks!
I like the review, all the info came quick and on point. Wish all gun reviews were like this.
Man I like your reviews mostly, just straight up and solid as usual
I read a lot of reviews on this carbine, many were 5,6,7 years old and there seemed to be a lot of issues. Some of the more recent reviews 3,2 years ago showed less problems. I decided to buy one about a year ago. It has been my experiance so far that this is a great little shooter. I had zero break in period on mine. It ran without a FTF right out of the box, probably just dumb luck. The sights, with a bit of adjustment, are dead on at 50 yards. I put a sling on it, a stock ammo pouch, replaced the plastic bayonet lug with a metal one and added a US surplus bayonet to it...look friggin cool. As for the issue with the last round bolt open, that was a really easy fix. I simply bought Beretta FS2 magazines with the high profile follower that holds the bolt open after the last shot. I love shooting this gun and the best part is that it eat any ammo that I feed it, cheep, expensive, ball, HP and even Tulammo steel...zero issues.
Great to hear! And I didn't know that different mags would solve that problem
Hey where can I find the magazine that holds It open
@@iChrisppyy any place that sells FS2 mags...try GunMagWarehouse.com...be sure to look at the pictures to confirm that they have the follower
@@phillyboy1813 how’s the gun to this day?
@@iChrisppyy still runnin great...just keep it clean and oiled...still eating Tulammo like it was free
I have had mine for a few years now. Zero issues. Functioned perfect out of the box. Reliable and accurate AND mine DOES have a manual bolt hold open catch. My son has one as well and his does not have the catch. Both of ours have been awesome guns and they both love my cast bullet reloads. 124 grain alox lubed round nose with 6 grains of HS-6 powder. Most accurate ammunition I have fired ao far actually. Love your review by the way. No time wasted. Precise and to the point. Well done.
Recommend for first time owner?
Does yours still have the wooden stock? I want the classic look but still want the last round bolt lock feature.
Great review on a great gun. I love mine. I got it used at a pawn shop cheap. As soon as it was in my hands and I looked down the sights, I had to have it. Mine needed a good 400 rounds to break in. It loves brass casings, hates aluminum. Safe shooting!
Brief and to the point. Thank you. There's too much complaining about the rough start on this rifle, IMO. Keep shooting, or break it down and start polishing. That's what you get for the money these days. Just take it in stride unless you want to fork over $1600 for a genuine article or one of those .22 copies. To match your 9mm pistol, I don't really see downside. I'm gettin' one ASAP.
Probably the best review I've seen
Would be good to see some more firearm reviews if you have a moment. Zero time wasting but enough info - like the style!
Some coming real soon!
@@xhairs6123 That would be cool. I was discouraged about these cheap Chiappas but after seeing the review I may pick one up. $379.99 - can't beat the price for a 9mm rifle if it's actually half decent.
Love the bio man, great review!
That's a sweet rig! I have the wood stock M1-22 version and it's a fun gun as well!
just got mine a few days ago, great little gun. Mine worked right out of the box no feeding issues, only thing i dont like about it is that the bolt dosent lock back.
Just got one like this. today at the range was great. 50 rounds, no problems at all. I saw the bad reviews and was nervous...but carbine did good with the federal 154 grain ammo.
just bought one thanks for the tips i think ill like it
Excellent review 👍
thanks !
Nice.....I have some Beretta 92 mags from my PAK9 I bought and upgraded to Glock Mags.....makes me want to buy this just to put those to use. Great no nonsense review brother! Your going to be big on youtube very quickly. Remember us little guys when you do!
Thank you for your kind words!
@@xhairs6123 No prob! Truth.
Bought the exact same thing with a plastic stock couldnt find a wood one removed stock camoed in 3 colors plus matt clear looks awsome
147 grain solves all your problems. US version comes in Beechwood or polymer. You can add a metal stock ring from m1 carbine 30mm.
The only problem I have experienced with this firearm is the magazine catch keeps dropping the mag probably as the magazine follower acts as the feed ramp.
I handled one in my local gun shop today, but wanted to read and view some reviews before buying it. I can't imagine getting the synthetic stock version instead of the walnut stock. Nothing against plastic - I love my Beretta CX4 carbine, which can share magazines with this one. I'm a little disappointed at the amount of malfunctions everyone seems to report, but I'm not taking the thing into combat or relying on it for home defense, so I think I can compromise on the reliability for a range plinker, and for the price.
Took my plastic stock off cammoed it 3 colors plus matt clear looks awsome
Is that a brown or black stock? Also Nice review! to the point without any dogs barking or wind blowing in the mic. Thanks!
I just purchased one and mine does lock out with empty magazines
Will this thing run 96 mags reliably?
Put a red dot in place of the rear sight, buy a GI style sling/oiler for $30, and mount an LED light with a barrel clamp picatinny just short of the muzzle. Perfect nighttime WTF gun. Mine's worked perfectly from first round with Remington 115 gr. FMJ bulk ammo.
That's a good idea. was thinking about modding it a bit
Well, I wouldn't do such things to a GI carbine, but this thing is simply a pistol caliber copy. Might as well make it modern. With the red dot, mine will group the Remington ammo into about 1" @ 25 metres, which means it's accurate enough for small game hunting.
Exactly. I think it will look pretty cool with some modern touches. Might do a video on that.
That's exactly what I was think Bro.
Sense they take Beretta mags you can get a extended mag for it
Mine still needs to be broken in. I only put about 100 rounds through so far. Stay away from US GI M9 mags and the extended mags (although they work fine with my M9). This gun doesn’t like them at all. Chiappa factory mags work the best. I heard the Beretta factory mag works too but I haven’t tried it yet.
92fs mags work great. The military spec mags are a hit or miss.
Piston grip version just went on sale at Cabela's. $799 with two mags. I wonder if they added a bolt catch to it.
The new Chiappa magazines hold the bolt open when empty, until you drop the mag that is.
Update ?
I think it's funny that people are so obsessed with last shot hold open when the ak doesn't have one either true it be nice but 1022 doesn't have one and that's ok too but yah it be nice if it had one good review also a tip the recoil spring is what makes this so stiff and often what causes the jams I just ran some oil on mine and sat and ran the bolt back for an hour or two while watching a movie it made it wear in with no cost except for a mad wife lol
a true shooter always keeps a mental note of how many shots he's fired.
Please let's know authurised dealer?
Who is the distributor in Canada ?
These are a nice idea, but the one I had was junk. The front sight was not straight out of the box, it was also loose. I got to about 125 rounds and the bolt broke in half. That's right the bolt broke in half. Had to send it back to Chiappa for replacement. When I got it back I sold it quick.
Wow! I was just thinking that if the slide doesn't function that great for the first 200 rounds, then maybe some +P ammo would make it chamber better. Then I read your comment. Dang.
I was very disappointed, I thought the rifle was a great idea and wanted it to work. I shot all factory Winchester ammo. Which ran great up until that point. This was two years ago, maybe the new ones are better??
The rear sight on mine did eventually come loose, but other than that it's functioned normally.
I have the wood stocked version of this rifle. Mine didn't need any break in and shot reliably out of the box. The lack of a manual bolt hold open is a bit in a pain. Also, the original M1 carbine didn't lock open on an empty mag, so I didn't expect this replica to do it.
@@Euro_Nymphing_NZ ... use a beretta FS2 MAG :-)
Where is this cheapest?
Seems like the 22 version is better. Looks more like the real one
Bit confused about getting mags for it. Can someone tell me if it's 92s/fs or both?
Fs for the cutout at the top of the mag
Edit: I know it's late just letting others know
The fact the the bolt doesn't lock back is the only deal breaker for me. How are you supposed to clean it? and plastic bayonet lug? take that shit off and include bolt open function. C'mon CHiappa, how much extra would it be to add that functionality?
Thats the reason why i decided not to get it
Its a drawback but not a deal breaker. The mags that come with it will keep your bolt open.
Could some of the jams be caused by the beretta magazines? Original beretta mags don’t have anti tilt followers. I’m interested in the rifle and already have 5 beretta mags but the reliability and it not having a bolt catch is giving me second thoughts, my other option is ruger pc carbine, but it’s more expensive and I’d have to buy a bunch of mags for it.
I'm guessing running it dry. A little weapon's lube goes a long way to prevent malfunction. I have military experience to know what I'm talking about. I'd take an AR-15 and 45 Auto side arm any day of the week over this weapon.
Initial jamming problem indicates poor machining and further problems down the road. Five hundred plus dollars says No F ing Way. I'm looking for a 9mm carbine, but don't think this one fits the bill.
Don't use 115 gr bullets or lighter .
Is there high capacity magazine?or drum type?
Yes. You can get high capacity baretta magazines.
The left side of my receiver just broke after 4 years of use. Very Disappointing to say the least. Hoping Chiappa will step up as that is pretty pathetic. I will let you know what happens.
For that 500 bugs, just give me a few then ... send it to Holland europe please? With some ammo...
update on the gun? any problems? I plan on buying one for my first gun.
I wrote a Canadian centric review that you can find on the /r/canadaguns subreddit. look up M1-9 the Poor mans PCC.
2 issues that should be considered/known before you buy, 1. Failure to Feed's are common due to the angle of the handgun magazine. (trying to maintain the straight magazine look makes the feeding angle from magazine to chamber very steep some magazines work some just don't) 2. The rear sight has a tendency to loosen and wander off since its not very well secured. @P.woods says either loctite the rear sight set screw on the rear sight base or drill a small hole for the set screw to screw into so it doesn't back out.
Other than that its a sweet NR PCC woodstocked carbine that is pretty affordable.
yeah after doing more research I don't think I will be buying this gun. thanks for the reply
I’m glad you decided against this for your first. Imo, a first gun should be utterly reliable as you familiarize yourself with working mechanics, techniques, and ballistics. A first gun should not give you a dozen problems to fix at the range without experience. What did you end up deciding on? My first gun was a 10-22 that failed to feed 2-3 times among over 10000 rounds and since then, I’ve gained experience with kitchen table “gunsmithing” and assembling of 7 other platforms all after i gained expertise one component at a time.
@@Chillyrabbit1 I have the .22 version, there is a 200 to 300 round break in period after that, no problems, I use mini mag rond nose solids, and federal hollow points exclusively
10 rounds? Thought you can only have 5?! Or was that for AR-15
Five rounds for semi-auto rifle magazines. A magazine designed for a pistol can legally hold up to 10 rounds of the ammunition it was initially designed for. If that pistol magazine so fits in the rifle, or the rifle is designed to take pistol magazines then that is 100% legal. Welcome to the confusion of Canadian Gun Laws >
Esti rifre 9m.m arrebento aí sim quero um também
Too bad they don't have one that takes Glock mags.
why plastic ?????? you should own in wood
Synthetic is a lot lighter and durable in moist weather.
@@IRONTOSS how you knock a head whive a synthetic stock
Took my plastic stock off cammoed in 3 colors plus matt clear looks itchen
Sad I sold mine 😢
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The word is aperture
Or... peep sight. It means the same thing. People on the internet sure are picky about their terminology.
sounded pretty cool at first..... looks like it was made by a company that doesn't care..... factory should break it in , and mags ? whatta joke.... I live in a free state so I gotta have 30 rnd mags....sounds like it is poorly made and not well thought out . I would not recommend a gun unless I would trust it with my life..... don't trust this design / engineering.... pretty weak
The M1-9 is actually a fun gun to shoot. If you own a Beretta 92 model pistol you will have a nice carbine pistol combination. Using 124 grain ammunition from the first shot not one malfunction. The local gun store hasn’t had any customers come back to complain, they wouldn’t sell a poorly made firearm . Chiappa is a solid company. The real M1 .30 Carbine wasn’t known for reliable functionality. It was an easy gun to clear a jam and worked. Buy good ammo and stick with the factory magazines.
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