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I definitely feel like having a QB who can squat the weight of roughly 2 defensive linemen might contribute to having success with a play that is basically just pushing the DLine 2 yards back
Also having a center like the great Jason
Kelce.
Ya they got a lot of things working for them
EDP 445 loves the touchy pushy
I think it’s because the whole o line is spearing the d lines knees. It is a legal play but the fact is it is a dirty play. Players are getting injured on it all the time so I personally am not a fan
As a Dallas fan I think it’s BS with them trying to ban it. I hate it’s unstoppable but good for Philly they got innovative. There is always something new and teams are smart and will eventually figure out a way. It’s just new version of the wildcat.
"It's not a Rugby play."
" We just brought in a Rugby coach to teach us a Rugby play"
It’s a legal play get used to it
@@Jspnj85guarentee you it’s banned next season. I’d be surprised if eagles even make it past the wildcard round this year. Get ready to CRY EAGLES CRY ON THE ROAD TO LOSINNGGG
@@Jspnj85pushing the runner from behind used to be illegal. that can happen again
@@Jspnj85 look up assisting the runner penalty. Also defense isn't allowed to do it.
It's also illegal on kickoffs
@@poisonpotato1 lol
It’s the o-line, it’s jalens legs, it’s coaching, it’s literally everything you listed. There’s a reason nobody else can do it. It’s not a cheat code, they just have everything it takes
Completely wrong
The eagles are the only team that knows how to scrum.... a rugby team will beat a NFL team 10/10 times when it comes 4th n inches lol
@@CodeYuna420womp womp
@@CodeYuna420how😂
It seems they lost what it takes, what happened to the eagles this season man
Mailata has said, it has nothing to do with Rugby.
Yea it's a Philly Jawn
Kelce said it best, "we just call it a QB sneak".
Sure looks like a rugby play.
@@Calmlysmoke420 Looks can be deceiving. It's just a QB sneak. Punting kinda looks like a rugby play too by that logic.
@@Calmlysmoke420have you ever played Rugby?
The secret is Jalen Hurts being the only QB that we know that can squat 600+ lbs
Never skip leg day ladies and gentlemen!!!
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Very true 😂
Also, Jason Kelce. And Mailata. And Lane Johnson. Pretty much our entire starting O-Line
Fck why are we all here then? Off to do leg squats at the gym 🏋️♀️
he has hurt knee
All the things you mentioned work perfectly together. Kelce said it best.. if he is moving forward and his pad level is lower.. it's successful
AKA try and break some knees
“I’m going to put a big circle ⭕️ in the thumbnail then state the obvious and pretend I solved a puzzle…”
He really didn't even say anything lol
All of those things combined make it successful!!!!
It’s clear as day the o line is moving fowards with momentum and people pushing from behind
The fact the offense knows the snap count combined with Hurts lower body strength and the best line in football are the top reasons it works. Knowing that snap count is crucial for the initial surge. It would be successful even if it wasn’t pushed from behind.
Precisely!!! Timing is the difference if everything else is equal
It's no secret, it's on film every week and nobody can stop it lol
How do you stop olinemen from diving at your legs wrapping up and tackling you? I’m curious. For the record I’m not salty. But that’s basically how the play works. Nothing in the rules against it so go ahead and keep doing it.
@smellzsf7628 if it was as simple as that other teams would have figured out how to use it by now
Because defense isn’t aloud to group together and push each other.
@@zacharyradford5552 excuses.
@@smellzsf7628it’s almost tripping techinally. But it’s legal play
Everyone fails to stop it because they think they’re going to run behind the center, hurts is peeling off to dickerson’s side most of the time
The Eagles players are hip to hip and they stay together, they're pushing to the center. Having huge powerful dudes might also make a difference.
Watch the eagle o-line, they get low and underneath the defenders shoulders and almost bear crawl the first step or two and then push forward while the center appears to generally pick one side to twist towards, allowing hurts to go behind him, guaranteeing a yard or two at the very worst. Combine that with the backs pushing forward on the line and hurts at times, allowing for a few extra seconds for the pile to move forward. It’s just great technique, plain and simple. It’s almost like watching Tom Brady do the QB sneak back in the day. He was a master at it and Hurts may be the new master at it now, maybe even better than Tom was in his prime. If Hurts stays healthy his career and he keeps improving as a passer ( not saying he is bad at all ) he could be one of the best we see for years to come. Hope he doesn’t plateau like we are seeing with some of the guys now, like Mahomes, Allen and Burrow, who all seem to be stuck at a point where they are not getting much better then they already are. But only time will tell. Could be coaching issues with those guys, could be defenses are getting better, could be the NFL wants something specific to happen this year and are making it happen ( Flacco farewell superbowl MVP tour ? ) 🤷♂️🤷♂️
Or maybe because Kelce pushes the ball a yard further before the snap 😅
then it would be offsides dummy 💀
Run the tape, boys. He's been moving the ball presnap all season. If you ain't cheatin, you ain't tryin, but still, he's cheatin.
Big facts 😂
Move the ball up or not, the QB is still the same distance from the line of scrimmage when he gets the ball so moving it up really doesn't do anything.
@trentbrubaker7301 Wrong. It's not about the QB. It allows Kelce to get lower, giving him more leverage and preventing the defense from standing him up. Hurts basically slides over the top of him, and the guards.
It’s the people who push from behind!
As a longtime Eagles fan I absolutely love our Brotherly Shove/Toosh Push play! That play works 99% of the time every time we call that play! Fly Eagles Fly🦅 Go Birds🦅🖤💚
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Loss to giants😂😂
I like to call it the Rump Pump, but that's just me.
@@justinramirez5059relax every good team losses to a bad one once in a while
It also helps when your center moves the ball forward an extra half yard forward pre-snap. He’s finally being penalized for it calling it a false start.
I've watch how Kelce snaps the ball he lines up well over the ball when it comes to the tush push, which might give him the advantage to snap the ball and get his hands up in time to push the man across from him, regular snaps he's got his arm out further ahead of him, I may be wrong but ive watched the play a lot really close to the line and its hard to say when the ball is snapped because of all the mayhem so I've also been looking at the line before the snap and I've seen Kelce's stance is well over the ball when it comes to this play
One of the guards for the eagles played pro rugby in Romania. And football was also designed of off rugby, so I can see why it works well, I also see a lot of things that could be brought over to rugby that would make the story better. It's cool to see the eagles thinking outside the box for this one
A Combination of all 3 Guys,makes it our Signature Play. Other teams fail when they try the Brotherly Shove and Fail. That's why it's called the Brotherly shove not the Cowgirls Shove. It fits Philly,so All will hate on the Play. Goddard once said to all who try to stop it,(Get Your Weight Up)!
🤣 love DG!
If the cowgirls did it, it would be the greatest thing since slices bread.😂
@@thephillyspecialshow please help change the name do a Poll ..The Philly Push ...let's go i don't like the current name
They played, you watched.
Just because a team has a very well-working play that other teams just can’t figure out, doesn’t mean that it should be banned. “Well we can’t stop this play so let’s just ban it.” That’s just ridiculous. And this is coming from a Ravens fan, I don’t even like Philly!
Buccaneers can stop it as long as Vita Via is healthy. Key to stop the monster D line man which used to be fairly common but is missing in NFL now as faster more agile D line men preferred.
In rugby the term Scrum is “rush push”, and having a professional rugby player teach it the proper way helps a whole lot in the grand scheme of things
Kelice had a rugby player on their show new heights And the rugby player said it has absolutely nothing to do with rugby
Having a quarterback, that's one son of a gun and it's not afraid to take a hit. And having coaches in the person now to perfect it.
Sounds like the keagles should have used that play more the last 6 weeks if it works so well.
Philadelphia Phalanx is probably the most appropriate name given how unstoppable it is but Brotherly shove/Tush Push is the most popular.
Shorten it to Philly phalanx and it might just catch on..
@@crappycrane7325lol my brain autocorrected it to that when I read it
Brotherly Shove! It's not anything else but... 💪🦅
Talk Headz just let it become familiar but it was always said Tush Push is blatant disregard to the topic of a sneak.
Bucs stop it with healthy Via.
If there is a secret, let's keep it!
Funny thing is, it is not a secret. Plenty of video out there and not one team has done it correctly.
@@edwardlangdon9256Bills do it the same if not better
It’s still crazy to me that people are literally trying to ban the “Tush Push”. I’m not a Eagles fan but it’s not their fault they got one of the best O-Line, a QB that can squat god who knows how much I can’t really remember it, and a rugby coach that taught them how to do it perfectly. It’s not their fault that the fans team Defenses suck at stopping the “Tush Push”. Like it’s just a good play and everybody knows that it’s going to happen at the 1-yard line in the red-zone.
Tampa Bay certainly figured out the Tush Push during these NFL playoffs!
Yep first get one of the old school monsters like Bucs Vita Via. Someone O line must block with two and they still get pushed back. These type of D line men used to be fairly common but they mostly gone away for lighter faster D line men.
For those who dont know when football was first established it was played by two colleges princton and rutgers back in the 1800s and was a combination of soccer and rugby rules
1. Ball shape inspired by rugby
2. Goal poasts inspired by rugby
3.Running with the ball and foward pass(introduced in later years) inspired by rugby
4.Tackling inspired by rugby
5. 11 man teams inspired by rugby
😅 football is technically just rugby with armor and a twist in the rules
It’s funny that some people think it’s because the center places the ball a little ahead doesn’t make sense to me tbh. Like I get ball placement is important but if everyone is already lined up on the original line or scrimmage why would it matter where the center holds the ball?
The comments that say "it's all of those" are basically right - it's just hard work and putting the puzzle together. However, I want to shout out an additional piece that hasn't been mentioned in the video and that is the freakishly fast snaps of Kelce. If you meassure the time from the ball first getting off the ground to Kelce already being in full tackle position after the ball has left his hand, I think he would top the league by a mile.
He is very humble about it and said on his podcast "oh? you mean the every QB I ever played with hates how I snap the ball snap?", but in my opinion it's an important detail.
That’s why I love the Eagles
It’s the most “football” football play ive ever seen in my life. Anyone that disagrees isn’t a true football fan
Nothing in this short had a fact to why it works... It works because of how low the line go and Hurts
The heart dedication and desire this team has
He would release this video hours before the game in KC.
Some birds fans have bird brains.
Like they’d see this lol. Either way they didn’t stop it.
Rugby player coach and play is crazy😂😂
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(We’re fucking dead against Dallas tho)
The secret is it’s ran to the left side and Jalen rides the wave of Dickerson and Mailata, and then the pushers help finish it off. Other teams fail because they run it directly behind the center who’s getting the brunt force of the entire defense.
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Luv this video man🙏🏆
Thanks!
You’re telling me that they brought in a new coach specifically to perfect one of their many plays in the playbook
To be fair they executed the tush push with the eagles backup. It worked more effectively than any other team that attempted it even with the backup for the Eagles in. I will note it didn’t seem to work as fluidly as it did with hurts but that doesn’t mean it didn’t work effectively because it still worked fairly well. Take what you want from that
if it was a regular qb sneak theyd still hate it
The whole tam works together on that play
I thought they were gonna point out that Jason Kelce puts the ball a foot further forward than it should be, to knock the whole defense back a foot off the true spot. 😂
I just watched Mailata on the New Heights podcast talk about the fact that it has nothing to do with Rugby and that he learned it here. I guarantee it will be tossed out by the rules committee because the Eagles are the only team to execute it perfectly. If it was any of the teams thought to be the darlings of the NFL, the play would be okay.
Didn't work when it mattered tonight 😂
It’s a well placed 👍🏽 that allows Jalen to get the first down every time 😂 Go Cowboys! ⭐️
Obviously what you said. A qb who squats 600, a legenday center and the best offensive coach in the game is the reason that works
Jalen squatting 600 and oline technique I see Josh Allen running there version called the bobsled ahahahahaha
I can't believe this hasn't been thought of before
The ultimate tush push
If you notice Hurts is actually patient on the play and slides left. Initially it sometimes looks like he dont have it then u see the serge after about a second or two
As nothing more than a fan with zero expertise at all, i can see one glaring difference between the way they do it versus how other teams do. The line just stays so much lower, they barely even pick their heads up and keep the shoulders super low. Other teams seem to try and stand more upright to get a push, but instead end up giving the defense more of their body to to get a hold of and penetrate the backfield.
As a person who hates the Eagles... it makes no sense to ban this play
want to stop it, get a proper nose tackle and you will need heavier guys to jamb the middle because it's a scrum, hence you need your linebackers to jam it.....they cannot come in high or they'll get blown
back
You could use the tush push every single play of the game and score 42 points.
Do it vs Bucs with healthy Via score zero points.
Fr fr it starts with kelce they talk about how fast he snaps it so jalen knows when it’s coming but nobody else does I feel like Jason and jalen get that better push because they snap the ball quicker then most center an qb duos
Bucs stopped the tush push and shut the vet down.
What makes it so unstoppable is the offensive linemen know the snap count so if you are a defensive lineman you are pretty much getting tackled by the entire eagles offense before you even know what is happening.
In my opinion the QB sneak is the purest example of what Football is at least when it comes to run plays.
To me it’s the center that makes the play. The whole defense has to react to the snap while the center knows when he is going to hike the ball. Slight advantage every time.
They dive at the defensive linemen’s knees and ankles. The defensive linemen have a choice. Either they jump up and lay down with not leverage to stop the pushing QB and RB’s to avoid a career ending injury, or they get their knee blown out and still probably don’t stop it because you can’t push too well without and ACL, MCL, PCL, or LCL
yes its the oline, hurts n the backs pushing him, but it comes down to timing. Eagles control when the ball is hiked and know what count to go on and practice moving as one unit. so they all move forward at the same time. The def doesn't know when the ball is gonna be hiked, so they'll be inconsistency in the d line. Some reacting later/softer to the o line moving together as one. A soft gap will open up either on left, right or forward and its jalen's job to see that and aim for it. then the te/rb behind him push him forward.
Counter with defense coached by Rugby coach on how to win a scrum. Lower leverage and churning legs instead of submarining.
The real secret to the tush push is that they put two running backs behind Hurts who push him to the left side of the o-line. That side is the strongest and biggest side having Landon Dickerson and Jordan Mailata. Interlocking body parts is illegal in the NFL but Dickerson, Mailata, and Kelce effectively bind their shoulders together and just churn their feet as hard as they can pushing the defense back. Then hurts just follows the push or gets pushed over the pile by the running backs and rolls off the other side.
Hope this helps!
Kelce has been caught moving the ball forward (or shown to be without penalty) more times than all other centers combined. Stealing half of the distance needed before the snap certainly doesn't hurt your chances.
My issue with it is that it was not allowed to push the ball carrier forward until recently. It's not a matter of making it illegal or not. It's about restoring the longstanding, original rule. The ball carrier must advance the ball. Same for all those open field scrums. You shouldn't be able to get help running the ball.
Most modern rule changes are about making the game either safer or shorter. This achieves the opposite of safety.
Yea you nailed it. A strong QB and a hall of fame center is the right answer. Id say Kelce has more to do with it more than anything else
The left tackle was a professional rugby player
Tush push most creative play in our playbook
I think what makes it unstoppable is that There lineman are strong so they can push them to make a path.
It technic with strength that makes it unstoppable. If you disregard any part you will find failure..
Man the tushpush makes me miss domata peko. Man was a monster in the middle. Or that guy from the patriots a few years back. I think it was like Terrance knighton or something like that? I wonder how they’d fair them or against a Troy polamalu.
Im glad im a philly native
Y’all notice how jalen’s rarely ever physically on the ground for these plays, right? He’s not doing anything. He’s the vehicle getting pushed along by his backs, not the guy doing the pushing.
Another thing players don't understand is when the defense jumps on top to try and pull them back, all they do is add another 200+ lbs to the forward momentum. By the time they can even use their strength to pull, they've already got 1-3 needed yds.
It’s unstoppable because they have a guy with rugby experience and the qb benches fucking 600 pounds despite him looking like a short stack, put just about any other qb in there and it likely won’t work
“What do you think makes it so unstoppable?”
Uhh, everything you just said 😅
It’s how they line up. Linemen’s feet are closer to one another’s and they are all lower in their stance than normal. This is essentially how they create a wall. They are also already heavily leaning forward, which allows them to move the D-line back much easier. It’s basic physics.
I've never really understood why the Eagles get recognition for this. I've always referred to it as the "QB lean" since that's what it tends to look like from the outside.
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You also forgot an ex-Rugby player in Mailata.
And even he says it has nothing to do with rugby lol
Jordan Mililata (a professional Rugby player) has even said these 2 plays are NOTHING alike so stop comparing the Brotherly Shove to a Rugby play
I think it’s assessed full, because the one mango for the knees, and they all fly backwards
Not only that yall remember Jordan mailata used to play rugby before the eagles signed him
The best offensive line coach. In the meantime, the Eagles oline are terrible at picking up the blitz. But, have fun perfecting a one to three yard play while you all are getting bounced in the 1st round.
Not to mention Kelce scuching the ball a half yard up every play 😂
Kelce is moving the ball forward every time until they finally get caught smh 🤦
If you look closely at one of the tush push or the brotherly shove, you can see Dallas Goedert assisting the runner which would be a flag.
They have learned to collectively push as 1 unit. The opposite of this is where the line collectively blocks for field goals. They lock together as a unit.
But there is a simple solution!
These teams are trying to match strength to strength; each trying to push each other out of the way.
The key is to prevent the leverage.
Instead of matching strength to strength,
the defensive line must just COLLAPSE.
The result is NOTHING TO PUSH.
The offensive line with COLLAPSE on top with NO WHERE to push or go.
The linebackers can then penetrate over the top to meet head on the QB.
With the safeties catching any side movement and closing in the edges.
It is just plain physics.
In the NFL, something is always unstoppable until a better thinking person figures out how to stop it and the rest of the league copies it.
Then it's just another, "remember when" play.
I think the secret is that the linemen get under the qb helping him stay up but then eventually the qb will fall because of it but it helps the qb make good yardage
The brotherly bump
That’s a rugby scrum down everyday of the week. Replace the props for guards and the hook for center. Just the names is different. Scheme wise they’re the same. Locks are your Personal protectors. And the 8 man mr RB. Only way to beat it is pull the first row down to stuff Jalen 1v1. Still a tuff way to win it prolly only works 2% of the time 😉.
It works so good because jalen hurts can squat 600 pounds
People are constantly saying this play needs to be banned but the truth is that if only one team can do it then there is no point in banning it. What is next we are going to ban passes over 15 yards because one team has a hall of fame QB Receiver combo? If every team becomes as good as the Eagles at it then we can talk but right now the other teams just need to spend time learning how to stop it rather than slam their heads into the wall.
Swole Batman in there
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Everyone is midline and above the mass. It’s called mass + force below the waist. Watch how high up opposing defensive lines are, they collapse on top of the pile, rather than rugby driving the opposite direction.
If you notice in the other videos the linemen don’t fall they try to block but with the eagles they all fall and make a pile