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This is why I love Sky sports, it's professional and on point.
I hate that in India we do not have such broadcasters, both Stars and Sony are pathetic and about jingoism. The panels and commentators are very unprofessional and they instead of having a proper cricketing discussion most of the time boast about themselves and jokes around
Exactly they don't have the quality for debates like these. They just know how to sell. I like cricbuzz with joy and harsha. They also have quality discussions
The worst part about most so called cricket experts apart from some of cricbuzz panelist is that they don't recognise the opposition's play
If india loses they go around bashing everything around Indian cricket and never there is a admittance of the fact that the opposition played well
There are intelligent people but broadcasters don't have the balls to stand up to players. It doesn't help that certain players are made gods and no one can criticize them.
There are many professional commentators who strive to join but they don't have USP.
Known cricketers bring audience with cringe and self obsessed jokes. Kaif is the worst of them. Sehwag is nowhere a commentator.
@@informally7895 yes there are many professionals in India, I remember growing up listening Charu Sharma, Harsha Bhogle who were very professional in their job. Even now we have Ravi Shashtri, Sunil Gavaskar, Zahir Khan who are good in this job. Sanjay Bangar is very good among all weird Hindi commentators. But the problem is with the broadcasters, their demand is not about serious cricketing discussion but all loud and weird, that's why they have hired all non professional ones
Instead of bilateral ODI series there should be more multi country tournaments like Asia Cup or any continental series. It will bring more competion and interest in the game.
This is a good idea but some of the rules of ODI cricket need to change as well. Having 2 new balls doesn't help the bowlers at all. An older ball would aid the spinners and reverse swing more. This will make ODIs much more interesting. Also, I think we could try reducing the format to 40 overs. Just give it a go.
@@rahulsrinivas3224 quality of balls have gone down nowadays, I would recommend the option of taking second new ball at the end of 35-40 overs
we can play one day with pink ball every problem will be solved then
@@rahulsrinivas3224 i totally agree with u on reducing the overs in an ODI game. Maybe 30 overs per inning also work out. I also think a baseball like approach could also be tried with multiple short innings per side.
What would be the point of a European Cup?
Forgive me if I’m mistaken as I’m a fairly new cricket fan but for being so new to punditry and the broadcasting side of the sport, Eoin Morgan has really impressed me. From being white ball captain to retiring and a week later being so honest and intelligent speaking in front of camera immediately. Really impressive.
Yes truly
Hes got one of the best cricketing brains of the recent times. I wouldnt expect any less. He should have been made the white ball coach. Its not long before he lands a big coaching job.
Most cricketers at that level are intelligent and very well spoken in their native languages
He's gonna be a great pundit, same goes for broad when he retires
I like him like this but I don't really like him as a commentator because he tries too hard to sound excited.
Mark Butcher and Atherton are real thinkers, their thoughts are inclusive, they are thinking about everybody for the betterment of the game.
No ! They matched your opinion that's why you liked it .
@@imviiku Yeah they might have matched his opinion, but them thinking about betterment of game is also true. Both of these things could be true. If cricket as a game expands it is better for IPL too as it would mean more audience more pool of players and more revenue.
@@imviiku no! You're wrong. They are a million times better than the atrocious, biased dumbasses like dasgupta, Karthik, agarkar who are our so called experts. These guys come up with logical points and no wonder their viewership is so damn high
Bilaterals are useless and nothing but glorified friendly. They should be tournamentify or completely ditch. Traditionalists would argue but this is the reality
Total agree
I miss the days when players were eager to play all 3 formats, I miss the days when odi was a popular game where we would sit and watch those juicy run chases, we had the era of all those bilateral, tri lateral and those indo pak odi tournaments what a golden era indeed, now we just have these league games where 90% is of poor quality what a sad situation we have ourselves in just for the sake of broadcast deals
And 99% of those league matches are fixed.
And we still exist who love ODI format like we used to do. Like you said, those were the days, infact the best days of cricket. Nowdays franchise cricket has ruined the beauty of cricket, its just money or nothing. 😅😅
Absolutely agree. League matches are killing the sport. On the other hand, yes it helps boards to earn money. But the quality of cricket is getting hampered by this money-making strategy. That is why I liked what Atherton said to conclude, "Focus on making the game better and not just on how to make money".
No need to shame league matches....if broadcasters are pouring money in it then it's not the boards problem
I'm not an apologist for T20, but they are hardly "poor quality"? While the skills used are of lesser quality, the actual games are typically very exciting and draw viewer interest. There are few blowouts and most teams can come close to their target. The same cannot be said of ODI or Test cricket these days.
I have to give Shaun Pollock credit here because in Ireland, we practically only have T20s and ODIs so to scrap ODI would be effectively gutting the game here as we speak where it has seen some growth over the last few years. Heinrich Malan has said that he hopes to see more tests come to Ireland over the next few years but I'd say we'd need more ODIs to get a solid grounding and if we lose ODIs, I don't see how we're going to improve and continue. It's just a sorry state of affairs that I feel might end up killing the game for all but the core group of countries.
@@Nik-sv1yw In the past two years Ireland have won an ODI vs England, drawn a series with South Africa, beaten the West Indies in a series away from home and come within a whisker of beating New Zealand twice. Ireland have played 4 ODIs against Bangladesh in the last decade.
ODIs are by far our best format, and we perform at a good level in them, but that doesn't make big teams want to play us more.
@@Nik-sv1yw well it got India and New Zealand in T20 and ODI as part of each team taking on England so there is that. I wouldn't want Ireland to focus on T20 exclusively - that would be a waste for all concerned.
@@jamesarthurbelfast1491 How are ODIs helping The Irish in getting better at test matches? You need Test matches to get better at them not ODIs. Test cricket is so far removed from ODIs there's no bridge there.
@@aono335 That's true but it's a better thing to have than just T20s.
@@aono335 Not the point I was making. I obviously want Ireland to have more tests, but it's unlikely we'll ever get more than one or two a year. My point was that good performances on the field don't translate into a lot more opportunities.
This is a fascinating conversation. Great input from Ravi Shastri. Fabulous analysis from Michael Atherton, Mark Butcher and Eoin Morgan and great summary from Shaun Pollock. This is top stuff from Sky Cricket. It really explains the state of the game and where it is headed.
Ravi Shastri is basically telling to kill test cricket to keep money for India. You play 6 country test cricket then that's it. No other country is going to survive.
@@alexanderalwis8871 That is your interpretation of what he said. My interpretation is that you focus on the best sides to play Test cricket. It is a reduction and at some point a country will fall out of the Elite group and will not compete. Just like the Premier League, Division 1, 2 and 3 in football
It is a great conversation to have. But ICC should first hold such a conversation. Right now there is a great imbalance of the game across formats. Due to the way franchise cricket has evolved and the ability of some cricket boards able to make better money while the others are craving for some earnings, it is making cricket as a money centric sport than for the sake of game itself. I agree with some of the suggestions made by the experts especially Mark Butcher made a comment on each format being relevant varies from country to country. Some countries who cannot compete with top teams doesn't have to play test cricket. Some countries having more franchise cricket can cut down bilateral series. And some countries can play specific formats more than the other format. Each cricket boards have to make wise decision on what is best for their players and the people of their country. ICC doesn't have to dictate everything. ICC tournaments also should be pick and choose for some countries. If a country cannot participate in an ICC tournament for some reason, they should be able to opt out but participate next time.
It is just an excuse, its typical of english cricket. If their players cannot play all formats there is an issue with the game. Look at India, Australia, pakistan amd SA they have been having similar schedules but they have big bench strenght so they can rotate players. ECB on the other hand dont so they can just moan.
I think Ravi Shastri contradicted himself. He said bilateral series should be reduced but at the same time said white ball cricket should be used to spread/grow the game outside the top 6 test teams. I don’t think anyone really has a solution yet which means something will give which is unfortunate.
@12:30 and, of course, the greed of the ECB means they have now introduced a reduced version of T20, as a franchise model, to further reduce the availability of players to play international cricket AND increase the demands on playing time. Ben Stokes has also opted out of the Hundred, and I hope many more players do too, so we can get rid of this 5 ball over irrelevance.
Greed of the ECB...hmm...tell us how else the ECB is meant to make money in order to fund the game at every level and expand it, rather than watch it shrink and die? Sponsored car wash?
1. Conduct Test Championship finals once in every 4 years, not 2 years. Make teams face each other in home & away conditions. At least 3 matches should be played in each series. The finals must also be a 3 match test series.
2. Conduct ODI WC the year next to the test championship finals, then T20 WC the next year and ICC Champions Trophy the next year.
3. Increase the number of teams in WCs. At least 21 teams must play. 3 groups, top 4 in each group qualify to the next round and play in 2 groups, Top 3 in each group qualify to Super6s, then Semis and finals.
4. Bring back the Tri series, quadragular series concept. Make rival teams face off each other. Create new rivalries like SA-NZ, WI-Ban, Ire-Afg, WI-SL, Aus-NZ, Ban-SL, Aus-SA, Eng-Ire by making these teams play more tri and quadrangular apart from the existing Ind-Pak, Ind-Aus, Aus-Eng, Ind-Eng.
5. Conduct more ODIs than T20s in every bilateral series. But focus more on the tri and quad series than bilateral series.
6.Start conducting ICC events even outside of the Indian subcontinent, England and Australia. At first it'll be financially not very feasible but the market would gradually pick up. It is good for cricket.
7. Try making most tour schedules like, 3-5 match test series + Tri/ quad ODI series + bilateral 3 match t20 series. But also conduct bilateral ODI series sometimes, but with 5-7 matches and keep the number of T20 matches lesser than ODI matches in bilaterals.
8. Just do something and grant permanent membership to Scotland, Nederlands, Kenya, UAE and Nepal. These teams have been there for quite some time and are fairly better in comparison to most other associate teams.
9. Do something and prevent the destruction of cricket in Zimbabwe. If possible try intervening into WICB and solve the West Indies cricket problems.
Make sure that cricket doesn't get destroyed in countries like India, SA, Australia, England and West Indies.
This is the only possible way that cricket can be saved.
You are my friend bro. We are not just indian cricket fan but also cricket fan and love every team to do better.
Yaa your idea is great
We need every country in this world to play cricket 😁
Still i want IPL during summer without ipl my summer is ruined
Someone show this to whoever controls cricket. Best thing ive heard. And id like to add, if there are so many t20 franchise tournaments around, then there is less need to play international t20 cricket and use that time to play more odi. Or see what tournament is in that year and play more of that format in the year
Test Model and T20s Model
3-4 Leagues at Int'l Level
League 1: Top 6 test playing nations
League 2: Rank 7 to 12
League 3: Rank 13 to 18
League 4: Rank 19 to 24
With Relegation and Promotion every year with 1 or 2 teams getting relegated or promoted every year (who knows one day Iceland will be playing against India)
Similiar for T20s
Bilateral Series:
3 T20s
3 Test Matches
Winning these matches will give a team points per match alongwith winning the series
Hence even though a team can win both the matches but winning 3rd match might give them some points which can be helpful to win the league. Hence excitement for each match
Each team will play 5 series with teams in their league:
For T20s: 3 playing days with 2 days of rest-> 7 days
For Tests: 15 playing days with 3 days of rest-> 21-23 days
Total days per series: 30 days
Total playing days per nation: 150 days
1 week rest between series
Total International Days: 6 months (July-Dec)
Franchise Cricket with Premier league model: 3-4 months months(Feb-May)
Resting phase/Auction/Transfer window: 1 month(June) + 1 month(January)
T20 World Cup year: January-February
Do give your suggestions.
Thanks for reading
At the moment it's all about the economics of the game. And it's good to see so many franchise cricket taking place, money has become very essential in today's world. So it's only fair players who work so hard getting into the sides gets recognition...moreover everyone is happy watching favourite players in franchise cricket..also more and more players getting opportunity to earn a decent living from the game...change with the changes...that's how it should be. I think it's all Great!
I worry about cricket. I don't know how long 20/20 will last. I can see the public getting tired of it in the next 20 years. ODIs seem to be dying out. Maybe test cricket will revitalize but pitches need to be equal help for batters and bowlers. No more roads.
England pitches are the best for test
By all accounts, 20/20 is the most likely format to spread the game across the world, it shows no signs of dying, and is far more likely to last than any other format, the data and viewership proves this
You say no more roads but for the past few years test batting has been very poor with low scores.
20/20 is dying? Whatever gave you that impression.
20/20 will not die as long as the money is right
As a kid I started watching cricket with 50 over. It was and still is perfect for me. Back in those days we used to watch around 40 odi matches per year. It is sad to hear ODI has to go. While everybody talk about Ben Stokes, look at Butler and Roy for an example. They have to compete for a spot in test cricket but they are automatic choices for whiteball and they are perfect for it. Take Sri Lanka, WI : naturally the test team and whiteball team is totally different except for rare one/two players who make it to both. So anybody else who would like to believe two different teams for tests and odis will be a solution for the problem?
Yes we all used to watch odis as a kid but the question is now do we watch Odis except the first 10 and last 10 overs.
@@crazyshit1985 idk about others, but I do. Anyway I believe 10-20 odis per year per team won't be a problem (without using test players). That will allow odi format to grow like other formats. ODI deserves an opportunity to grow, It's never an useless format. Completely stopping ODIs will remove the bridge from t20 to test for new fans.
The other boards want to push their leagues .so they are pusing the agenda to shut down odis..
@@vinayb5746 Yeah it is great if franchise leagues can be limited to certain phase of the year otherwise It will be too hard to maintain cricket schedules.
Four teams for every format will make a heckload more youngsters HELLA excited at the increased possibility of themselves getting selected for their countries one day. More would want to watch too.. The specializations will stand out more too
2 points in addition to the insightful observations made in this discussion. First, T20 cricket (both franchise and bilateral) is bound to reach a saturation point sooner than later. With the CSA's new league, the 10 team IPL, the CPL, the PSL, the LPL, the BBL, the Hundred, the UAE league, the Smash and the Blast, the T20 franchise calendar is pretty much packed throughout the year. This is going to lead to increased frustration and a decreasing interest in the T20 game within the next few years. Looking at it on the outset, there is a clear prioritisation of quantity over quality, even though I understand the financial circumstances of national boards. Secondly, there will be an increased focus on product differentiation of franchise leagues - that is to say, if a viewer is to garner enthusiasm towards one league over the other, it is going to be because of what that league offers (which is going to become more focused on structures and rule tweaks than anything else). We see the Big Bash and the Hundred already having different rules to increase excitement for the game, but this is a slippery slope too. To what extent are we, as viewers, okay with these tweaks? Is cricket more focused towards what it shows to new viewers than what it doesn't show to old ones? We need answers to these questions more urgently than ever. The way we treat the shortest format will have the most lasting impact on our game for the years to come.
I can see where you are coming from .. but hear me out too .. I don't think T20 will reach a saturation point in the near future at all .. it is in fact the future of the sport for a couple of years at least. The advantage of T20 cricket is the time frame. It takes around 4-5 hours to complete. Like any other sport, it's easy to spend that amount of time for anyone across the world. The amount of cricket is not a problem in any way. People only follow what they like. If you've observed sports across the world, in USA, or Australia for example, it's a part of their culture (the way they watch sport) .. they sip on their beers, get the stadium experience, have fun, and enjoy the game. This, I believe, will definitely catch up with more countries. Similarly, the biggest leagues will definitely be celebrated (IPL, BBL, etc.) as with football (EPL, Champions League, etc) None of them have died out. There will come a day where people will enjoy all kinds of cricket, wherever it is played. In the US, for example, people even go to their children's schools to watch them play (leave aside it being financially viable). The point I am making is that T20s will just keep getting bigger and bigger and make Cricket part of culture. Survival of the fittest. Money talks. End of story.
Indian cricketers will be sitting idle all year around and become job less
@@sforsud completely disagree, in future people will choose other sports over IPL because they will be far more entertaining than ipl. The reason for IPL success was quality international players like ABD, Gayle, Dhoni, Kohli, Rohit, Warner, Buttler, Macculum, Malinga and many others. There was high quality cricket that'why people got attached with IPL. They were performing every year. Without international cricket there will be no quality and consistency. Secondly too much dose of medicore cricket can destroy IPL.
See the IPL 2022 viewership, it is going down inspite increasing number of teams from 8 to 10.
@@amankashyap6796 we can all speculate that’s fine, but should not give concluding statements because nobody is a source of truth for anything.
1. You are comparing IPL to other sports. IPL is not a sport my friend, cricket is the sport, IPL is a type of sport.
2. Never give conclusive statements about anything. Specifically here, you cannot conclude about IPL with just one season. IPL keeps getting bigger and bigger always (as history suggests)
3. No player is greater than the game itself. I love Kohli, Dhoni, AB, Gayle etc., doesn’t mean it’s the end of the world. I am also a cricket romantic, but history will always produce more players. World keeps evolving
4. It takes time for new teams to generate interest and rivalry, so the promoters will only try to keep making the trend go up as people can start going back to stadiums and connect more with the new teams.
5. If you read the conversation properly, the discussion is not only about IPL, but the future of cricket as a whole.
@@sforsud i agree with your point. IPL is not a sport.
But here you contradicts yourself, earlier you said ultimately cricket will become only T20 ( That is IPL) for Indians like us.
Hence in future, cricket= T20 ( IPL), we all know cricket is a sport, hence IPL = Sport.
But this was not my point
My point is without proper international cricket. Cricket will not going to survive in any form.
IPL become famous in india because cricket has rich memories in our country.
Let's see what happens with cricket leagues happening in countries like USA and UAE.
One major point you cannot compare football with cricket. Football is played all over the world. They have huge pool of talent. They can choose players from 150 countries. Inspite of all these even in football only 2,3 leagues are commercially successful. ( Your point money matters)
I am not saying any player is greater than the game.
My point- Without proper international cricket we won't have supply line of great players.
They were great because they played in different part of world in different conditions. It helped them to develop various skills.
If you are saying quality of cricket is not going down. Then sorry bro, you are not watching cricket properly...
After 2015-16 from any country in the world, we hadn't found any great talent.
Only medicore level players.
Perform good in one season flop in next season.
Atherton kills it as always. IDK why but he always has the most appeal and impact.
It's the style
Great video! Really impressed with Mike Atherton and Mark Butcher with their analysis. Brilliant stuff from sky sports cricket! 👏👏
It will be a very sad day for cricket if odis are scrapped. Odis carry so much glory and history with them, as the odi world cup is the biggest prize in all of cricket. The t20 world cup is nowhere near the same value as the odi world cup. We must bring odi tri series back and 5 match odi series
The ODI WC is reduced to 10 , it will increase to 14 in 2027 but that's it . ODI Cricket failed to the one thing it was supposed to do aka Spreading the game . T20 Cricket in just 15 years has done more for the sport than ODI did in 50 years . No sport should go on for 8-9 hours ! No one has so much idle time these dats .
@@imviiku but many people want to watch test today
@@anuragjain5822 Those people are long time cricket fans not new ones. Nobody outside of the traditional fans wants to sit and watch test cricket these days. You can't get broadcasters at decent rates for test matches in most countries because it is not viable. T20s are faast and palatable to most people in the world including non-cricket fans.
Just to put my chips in. As a younger guy, I used to mostly watch ODIs & T20s. I would find test cricket boring but as I grew older in my 30s, I find I like Test Cricket the most and as a next option I watch T20s because in terms of skillset, I feel ODIs is comparatively simpler and less challenging compared to T20s & Test so I find it boring
I just love these conversations around the game by professionals and experts. Thanks Sky Sports!!!
Freakin awesome these converstions are!!!
For me odi is the best form of the game. It has features of both - test and T20 depending on the situation. You can 'hang in there' in a one day game and have to play fast because of constraints of number balls. 50 over game should be priority for international cricket.
I don't like limited overs cricket, o I'm happy at least one format is dying
I also like ODI cricket the most. Virat is 43 ODI 100s. T20 cricket has completely taken away the sheen from this great game. ICC should prioritise ODI and Test Matches.
@@amjbrm not everything is about Kohli mate.
Yeah T20 is actually a Lucky game to be honest. England won 2 T20 world cups. So they want to scrap it because Australia, India has more record in it. To be honest who is watching a 5 day cricket match these days. Other than jobless ones. Why do we need test cricket. Especially Tests in England depends on cloud conditions. That's an unfair game afterall.
@@heretichello8253 this guy is definitely indian lol
Test cricket cycle should have level 1 & level 2 to seperate good teams from below par. At the end of every test championship, bottom level 1 team can be relegated to level 2 and top level 2 team should be promoted to level 1. This will create more balance between the teams and incentive to compete.
this is such a great idea. i would never understand how come no one at icc has still not recognised that the big 3 are bullies at the test level. teams have a hard time to win or even force a draw against them at their home venues.
New Zealand entered the final by winning maximum home series. They won the final as the final match was held at England where conditions are similar to New Zealand. Just look where they stand in current WTC cycle..
@Jordan Reynolds the point is NZ wouldn't have even qualified for the final had it not been ICC changing the rules altogether in the middle of the competition. They brought in the percentile rule and then the rule to deduct points due to slow over rates. Had it been not for these changes it was Australia in the finals. So imo NZ just got lucky that such circumstances arose, they didn't get into the final solely on merit.
And I'm in no way meaning to disrespect NZ just stating my views. They are an excellent team in all formats!!
As an Australian can I just say that Michael Atherton is the best cricket pundit / commentator in the world, bar none.
The football model cannot work for cricket. In football, Premier League, La Liga, Serie A, Ligue 1 and Bundesliga all happen simultaneously and all these leagues stop for international matches. Most of the players play for one club for the entire season. In cricket, leagues happen worldwide at different times of the year. One player can play in 3-4 different T20 leagues in one year. All international matches stop for one league (i.e. IPL), and for the rest of the leagues, their games just run in parallel to the international fixtures. The football league system is not as imbalanced as the cricket world.
Exactly.. moreover club football has had an organic growth with only money coming as a factor only recently..i mean look at famous clubs like Manchester United or Liverpool that boast a rich 100+ year history with so much emotion attached to it with fans (local or worldwide) relate to, to which cricket as a franchise moving forward would pale in comparison...
Clubs have anthems ffs which intrinsically means something..
Cricket will move forward as a franchise with money the overriding factor at all face value.. football is football the beautiful game
Football calender is beautifully designed!
Club matches on Saturday and Sunday. International friendly midweek.
Exactly I think only way franchise models can be made successful are to make them run simultaneously and give same breaks for intl plus transfers like football.
Test Model and T20s Model
3-4 Leagues at Int'l Level
League 1: Top 6 test playing nations
League 2: Rank 7 to 12
League 3: Rank 13 to 18
League 4: Rank 19 to 24
With Relegation and Promotion every year with 1 or 2 teams getting relegated or promoted every year (who knows one day Iceland will be playing against India)
Similiar for T20s
Bilateral Series:
3 T20s
3 Test Matches
Winning these matches will give a team points per match alongwith winning the series
Hence even though a team can win both the matches but winning 3rd match might give them some points which can be helpful to win the league. Hence excitement for each match
Each team will play 5 series with teams in their league:
For T20s: 3 playing days with 2 days of rest-> 7 days
For Tests: 15 playing days with 3 days of rest-> 21-23 days
Total days per series: 30 days
Total playing days per nation: 150 days
1 week rest between series
Total International Days: 6 months (July-Dec)
Franchise Cricket with Premier league model: 3-4 months months(Feb-May)
Resting phase/Auction/Transfer window: 1 month(June) + 1 month(January)
T20 World Cup year: January-February
Do give your suggestions.
Thanks for reading
You’re missing one thing.. IPL franchises are buying teams in other leagues as well. In Dubai league all 6 teams are owned by ipl franchises. So may be in future a player will play for same franchise all round the year in different leagues.
More of these chats would be greatly appreciated, even off air.
This specialization of players in a specific format could potentially be very beneficial actually as it invites more professionals to get selected for their countries.
Cricket should have gone the Football way 50 years back . It would have been a far bigger sport right now than what it is . In just 15 years T20 Cricket has spread the game to more countries than Test n ODIs could even dream of , 121 countries playing cricket was a Dream . Cricket is back in Commonwealth n Asian games due to T20 Cricket & Olympics will soon follow . ODI Cricket needs to be scrapped for the good of game .
ODI will go unfortunately...
Yes. Who in the 21st century watches a game for a whole day!
@@ANOOPBAL Have you not seen the English crowds for Test Cricket. The word test cricket is there for a reason, it is the ultimate test for a cricketer, period.
@@georgedavid2577 ultimate snoozefest
@@nazmulfahad3044 Maybe check with cricketers like Virat, Root, Warner, Kane, Bairstow whether they agree with you. It is a snooze fest for those who don't have a deep understanding and appreciation of the game.
Ravi Shastri talking about 6 teams in Test matches if there’s know West Indies in test cricket it won’t feel the same.Greed is the reason for this situation like it is for everything in the world.
Funny how he doesn't mention how the bottom teams would get into the top 6 if they never play said top teams. There will come a point where cricket wont be the dominant sport in India and they could be right back to where they were in the 70s and 80s
Funny how its called greed. The money earned from IPL gives livelihood to Ranji players cant make it to the highest level..also retired national and ranji crickets
He is sounding extremely greedy lol
He had a point about quality though. If West Indies are crap why watch them get drubbed? These poor countries can still get money as he said but just for odi or twenty20.
Shastri sir blows with his awareness happening around
Totally agree with Ravi Shahstri. Test and T20. And quality test match is a treat to watch. Top 6 teams to it can be expanded to 10. if all the 10 teams are quite capable.
I like Atherton's suggestion to divide cricket formats into different windows in a year. Let's say, for example, 4 months of franchise cricket, 1 month of t20 cricket, 1 month of ODI cricket, and 6 months of test cricket in a year.
The issue is which franchise cricket will big players focus on? It'll be oike basketball where if you're good enough you play in IPL but if not stay in BBL or 100s or something. But why would bbl play same time as ipl for that to happen ?
I can see test and t20 staying over odi
And it would be a good contrast too, one fast game that finishes under 4hrs (idk exact average time) and test for a multi day event
I think it would be really hard to host a cricket World Cup without t20 or odi formats
This thing is interesting to watch. Waiting for a similar discussion during a India - Australia series.
ODIs
The world cup needs to be a priority. Make it once every 3-4 years and during those periods host qualifier games (similar to qualifiers for the football world cup). These games should be scheduled during breaks between franchisee cricket (call it an international break similar to football). Same can be done for t20 world cup. These competitions should be once every 3 years. We can add other competitions as well like Asia cup , Africa cup etc similar to euros and coppa america
Enlightened point of view by Mike Atherton.
The narrative should not be T20/ODI/test but about health of cricket holistically across the world.
Bigger boards need to ensure all countries are competitive for the good of the game as an overall, rather than for self interest/domination by having only 6 test playing nations.
Athers spoke of W Indies not getting a test tour by England and the impact that could have.
We need to keep cricket relevant to the the masses, and not elitist, with only a few people in a handful of countries playing.
Imo all franchise cricket should be brought into a time frame like march to september or november. In the remaining 5/6 months there should be tri series, quadrople series & test series. Also big tournaments WC, t20wc & WTC with every four years interval. Also icc should increase the number of teams in World Cup. Less billiteral series.
The most engrossing discussion and very very valid points are being made..
As an American new to the game who enjoys all three formats for different reasons I look at it and can think it reminds me of the problem of college sports in the US rn.
Football is the money maker and it drives everything, almost everything else doesn’t make money but schools are pressured to keep them around.
And the big similarities I see between the two is there is no one running the show. I think if the ICC was being smart they’d embrace franchise T20 however say SA has a league any ODI playing nation in Africa can buy into the league for a slightly reduced price and that nations players enter that eco system. Australia has a few Teams in NZ, Bangladesh and SL can share a league. The European countries can have teams in the hundred. Then the ICC has set international windows like soccer/football does but longer of course. T20I and Test matches are the only two year round formats with ODI warmup mini tournaments held the year before a WC along with associates qualifications. A few nations also probably elect to get rid of their test teams but I think no matter how stuff goes that’s gonna happen in the next decade ish anyways sadly.
Again I don’t know a whole lot about the situation and how any of it but that’s what I would do my best to do.
I'm so glad Ravi Shastri is back in the commentary box. I feel like a kid again.
Transition in English cricket, this guy used to be captain of England cricket a month ago..Eoin Morgan ❤️
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This why the champions trophy was such a good tournament. Brought together the 2 best teams from each domestic T20 comp from the participating nations & there was money at the end of it. Perhaps the ICC should force the domestic competitions to share the same window, & have it rotating through different countries OR the ICC creates a World T20 team which goes & plays in a different domestic competition every year, with certain number of best players from previous domestic comp playing in the next version with the best players in the world. Will only make those domestic players better & possibly help them gain international selection for their country.
Perhaps it's just a bias from the era I grew up in and my formative Cricket watching, but I find ODI's the best format, having elements of both the shorter and longer formats of the game. With a little love and attention, I think we'll be able to keep the format around for a while longer... though yes, if things become unsustainable, it'll be the one to go.
India, Australia and England need to come forward and make two specialist teams so that they can support other financially weaker boards by playing white ball format. The multination tournaments can generate a bit off interest for white ball format and also reduce the volume of cricket.
There should be more TRI series and 4 nations tournament it will make every match interesting
Really sad to see Ben has to retire from ODI who is put pilar he was just forced to quit 😢 😔 😞 😕
One change in t20 cricket can bring competition between bat and ball - instead of 5 bowlers bowling 4 overs each let 4 bowlers bowl 5 overs each
Michael Atherton spoke like someone who deeply cares about the game and wants to preserve the game as we know it with a way to get the cash in. Ravi spoke like a business that doesn't care about anything but money.
If we are to discuss the future of cricket and it's formats, the same conundrum happened a few years back with Test Cricket as well, where many were beginning (even now at certain parts of the world) to slowly write off and insisted that players root for the longest format of the game. Thanks to the WTC and the amount of quality test cricket that's being played across in the last 3-4 years (albeit very limited countries); and to the celebrity cricketers who voiced for the longest format of the game, that now it's the 50-over game that's finding it hard to place itself. as an alternative for the bilateral series, multi-national tournaments could be an option to keep things relevant to the ODIs.
To be fair to the players, they're not machines either and their body can take only that much. Ben Stokes is only the start of such stories and there will be many more to come.
In comparison with any other sport, Cricket is still to penetrate into lot of countries and we are still discussing just the top 15 across the world. T20 is the name bearer of the game and that's the way to expand the game across the globe. No one would've given a chance for a country like Afghanistan to be in the cricketing map, if not for the T20 format finding the gems from the country and now it has earned itself a Test status. Expand, increase the standards of the game across so you have many more countries playing quality cricket. As Ravi mentioned, you need the best quality of test cricket on showcase for the Test format to be relevant and economical. End of the day, the sport, as a passion for all is also a profession for the players, staff, broadcasters and the entire ecosystem revolving around the game. You need the game to live longer for anything to be a possibility.
It's hard for to avoid odi but we have to do that for future of cricket
Cricket will be driven by what the players want. As Shastri stated that players want to play Test cricket and I’m so glad that Test cricket still holds it value despite the fears back in 2008 when the IPL started. Test Cricket will be the most memorable format because it simply produces those moments; and viewers enjoy it as well as the players. ODI cricket will take a hit in terms of bilateral series as we’re seeing. However I think if the 50 over world cups are valued highly, everyone will look forward to to that including players and people everywhere because it will become more hard to get and hence the value would go up. I think it will be cherished more as it will be rare and a huge occasion in the World Cup. Overall I would much rather see the bilateral series take a hit rather than test cricket. And of course that would happen parallel to the players interest also as t20 leagues brings in a lot of money for them so you have to make space somewhere.
Cricket is driven by by what spectators want. T20 is the best example of this! CRicket basically saved by T20!
@@ANOOPBAL cricket is driven by money firstly. Then by players because automatically players will go where the money is and crowd will follow. And I see your point, however I would argue if there was as much promotion and advertisement about let’s say a 30 over competition. Then today you would have been saying that 30 over cricket saved cricket. My point is, test cricket still holds its value even with t20 cricket around. Cricket never got saved by T20 I’m sorry! It only brought more money in.
@@Bilalm11 n who drives money? it's the spectators. the businessmen will do wt'll fetch them the most money from the spectators
Franchise cricket is also changing rapidly with Indian franchises buying teams everywhere. Very soon the Indian franchises will be calling the shots. They may also buy players for the year and they will play in various leagues for the same franchise owner. Will make it easy to have coaching staff handling a group of 50 players all year round.
Absolutely, indian franchises are hugh in terms of financial power, they are taking teams everywhere, time will come apart from Pakistan every players of each team will have interest to play in some teams being owned by ipl owners bcz they need the platform to play in the ipl which is the biggest league in the world and it's a cash rich league, ipl is the biggest elephant 🐘in the room and no player or team can deny that and it will eventually grow in future, it's already become 9 billion dollars brand and with more teams in future and with more cash influx it will become 15 billion dollars brand in coming 5-6 years which is hugh
I’m an eyeing on the cross franchise super tournaments in the future. Just as they have been doing in the game of football.
But how will it work when players can simultaneously play in different leagues. Big players will chose IPL teams over teams from other leagues, that was the reason champions league failed in the past
Muchael atherton is spot on, just purely fabulous.. he analyzed the current cricket situation perfectly by keeping in mind the money the franchises earn, the interest of the people and fans worldwide. 0erfect analyzation by all, but loved the way ,michael atherton explained the situation keeping in mind the sole survival of international cricket and the concerns of true lovers of international cricket.
Domestic matches in India, England and Australia should be taken as a scope for developing of sustainability for teams like ireland, Afganistan, Zimbabwe just to help them in finding there feet in test Cricket. For helping them in finding more test players.
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No it is just organizing competitive cricket between domestic teams and other associate nations with proper official broadcasting.
Which in return will increase no. Of cricket lovers in associate nations
The quality of domestic cricket isn't close enough. Those int'l teams will end up playing uncompetitive test cricket.
Noo one watches test cricket anymore. If test cricket is the standard, cricket will surely die in all countries except India. No kid follows cricket in australia and england these days . Only the rich and old people watch it . T20 is the only way to go and more leagues are the way to go and less international cricket
There's no simple solution to this. It has been and will remain to be a tough job to balance two aspects of this game, aesthetics and popularity. The main difference between cricket and other sports is its very complexity. For other sports the main metric is money and popularity. But in cricket there are lot of different schools. There are people who think test cricket is only the real and most authentic form of cricket, some people think 50 over game maintains a good balance between cricketing flavour, entertainment, pragmatism in terms of time, money and Popularity. Now, in this decade with the advent of shortest format of the game, some people believe it is the only way forward as it is brief, insanely entertaining, innovative and money making. Though it lacks the very flavour of authentic cricketing grandeur, it enchants Billions around the globe. As a cricket lover I see every format as a different flavour. I devour everything with same keenness. Loss of any format will do nothing but hurt me.
Have all formats Infact have ...special declared squads for each format..with limited players who can play all 3 formats.
More players can come in and play...especially in nation's like India etc UK Can buy players from SA Nz etc.
Mike is great man. He is forecasting properly what is going to happen in future.
I loved the discussion here. I think, for all the formats to survive, ICC needs to adopt the Women's Ashes model for bilateral cricket. We have 5-6 games on every tour, 2 tests, 2 ODIs and 2 t20s, and we have an overall series winner at the end of that. This cuts down unnecessary bilateral ODI series', and each format within a series will have a significance, since you need to win games in each format to win the tour.
Agree but 2 tests a bit low 3 would be better tho
Agree. For big series such as the Ashes, India vs England or India vs Australia, there should definitely be more Tests and an overall figure of 9 to 10 matches in a tour.
And we should cut away with only white ball tours or only Test Match tours. For example, West Indies touring India for only 3 ODIs and 3 T20s. Just schedule full tours.
@@akshayabhatia2384 indeed a pointless bilateral doesn't even exite us cricket fans anymore, a big 3 tournament, Asia Cup etc needed righ now to sustain relevance
@@akshayabhatia2384 and I think franchise cricket is good as it generates revenue and expands cricket to non cricket playing nations but there is too much franchise cricket going on right now, too much cricket also destroys interest
I'm only interested in test cricket. But T20 is most exciting for the casual, more accessible, less demanding on the body and time of the cricketer. ODI seems to be the one to go.
Need to Need to have Tri-Series,Quad-Series if you want ODIs to stay relevant. Asia Cup is more or less an example of that. Great discussion all the way!
And also cricket boards can give them separate contracts for each format and look after them make sure whoever sign the contract has to participate in every tournament that organised by the board no matter what. More importantly we have to sustain the game of cricket
That was a valid point by Michael Atherton about boards paying ICC for an exclusive window in the FTP for your leagues. That money can be used to filter down to the other boards.
The bottom line is that the BCCI controls cricket and anything that ICC does. If a certain arrangement won't make them more money than they currently make, it's not worth the effort and they'll lobby against it
No reduction to the county championship. Spread across the entire season. Two in April (start mid-Apri); two in May, two in June, three in July, three in August and two in September (finish mid-September) with the games on Sunday to Wednesday. Put the T20 games on Friday evening. Put the fifty over games in August.
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ODI cricket is more interesting in Pacer friendly condition when batsman fight it out and even singles brings good amount of joy when condition are tough
Excellent discussion as always from Sky Sports Team. I feel the talk of doom is overdone a bit. Ultimately, there will be specialist sides for each of the three formats. Possibly a couple of players playing 2 formats at best. The cricket boards will find a way to squeeze as much juice as possible. Thus, there will be more cricket without taxing players a lot.
Is anybody ancient and grey enough to remember the old John Player Sunday League? I always felt personally that 40 overs was the perfect balance in a one day game. Totally enjoyable and never a dull moment. It certainly was competitive and not like 20/20, which (as a format) is far too fast and almost baseball now. Whereas 50 over ODI's are a little tedious at times to say the least. I even think it would be interesting to have 20/20, but over 4 innings. The most that woudl take is 6 hours. That would then have some Test Match flavour to it and strategies like follow-ons could then happen. What I do think is that even if ODI's do go, The Hundred should go to. It does nothing, it's a gimmick, I absolutely hate it
Great suggestion, I was thinking myself that returning to 40over one day games could a good balance.
Yep remember Sunday league, 50 & 60 over games!
The 2 innings of 20 overs.... 80 over day now that would be interesting!
@@SpeedfourLee and for extra spice, you could make it so that if each team has two innings of 20 overs ...the team batting order in 1st Innings has to be reversed in the 2nd innings. Meaning tail enders and bowlers like James Anderson would have to open and bat instead of openers. Which would be interesting? Where do you put your best players?
Increase the distance to boundary as in older days 85, 90 m . Remove powerplay. Make the bat thickness to standard levels .remove unnecessary advantages given to batsmen
Top class discussion
Should scrap that Hundred. It’s stupid
The hundred, in this country at least, has exasperated the clogging up of fixtures. Scrap it.
Get rid of T-20 games once and for all.
The hundred was created to shove womens cricket in our faces
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Needs to be some amount of gap between the series..
Eng side had a gap of 2 days between India and Sa series..
Odi cricket needs to survive as there are ebbs and flows..that's what we enjoy.. not smacking everywhere is called cricket
I agree with you Ravi Shastri sir in terms of what he says about trst cricket ie . 6 test teams
I feel the ECB are destroying cricket !! To many games like football .. it seems its run by accountants!!! The players are just going to get more injuries 😪
I agree, I would day ECB along with the BCCI are destroying cricket, in terms of the quantity. I think the Australian Cricket Board is doing a fabulous job. They always have that busy November - January period, but they don't have many tours throughout the year, they are looking after their players well throughout the year, and therefore, most of the times, they have their best players playing in all the international tours. Their tour of Sri Lanka ended in early July, and before that they toured Pakistan in April, and their next series is in late August. Whereas India and England are playing every 10 to 15 days.
T20 franchise cricket has ruined cricket. The quality of batsmans going to dip massively over the coming years, there'll be a big ratio of batsman just going out to slog. Technique or temperament not being tested whatsoever. With the amount of t20s being played nowadays, international t20Is should only be played when there's a world Cup as theres enough of the format being played in the form of franchise cricket. ODIs and Tests should predominantly dominate international cricket. Sad times for the game, can understand why a lot of my pals have distance themselves from watching the cricket.
I agree Ravi Bhai 👍
Its a very difficult time when you know the most prioritized tournament of cricketing world is the 50 over world cup..and now that format is declining and its saddening and people should vow for it
*ODIs is obviously there to survive with several improvements*
Think of it like a 4 years circle.
1 wc
1 champions trophy
2 Asia Cups
Several tri-nation series
Some 4 nation series
Never miss Big Bilaterals : ind Aus eng etc
To curb the bore in the middle, have a powerplay option of 5 overs, between like 20-30 overs !
Bilaterals to be 3-match series more unless it's eng-ind-aus.
Others to be 3 matches only mostly.
So there's enough tournaments to look for in a 4 years circle: be it wc, and build up to the WC, same for champions trophy. Then big bilaterals are there anyway. 3 nation and 4 nation series give more context to matches. Asia Cups will be better, every 2 years. So there's a lot to look for in just 1 format only which isn't there in other formats.
That's all, not more ODIs, no use of long bilaterals between top and bottom teams.
3 or occasionally 5 game t20 series, I don't mind. That is good.
Tests are going well recently.
Top teams , longer series
Weak team, shorter series.
1 t20 wc and 1 test championship in 3 years. Then stop test championship for a year or so, then restart again after the gap. So basically give 3 years to test-championship out of 4 or a little more.
Then leagues there.
There's a lot of variety, it's not much odi cricket, there's enough variation to keep viewers excited.
That's it . That's cricket!
Odi is the main format!
It's normal It's best!
Especially for Test Cricket- you need Mental, Physical and Technical strong players.....so it's always be quality over quantity
This kind of discussion must happen. India, England & Australia are at secure place, but sad part is test matchs beauty is getting obsolete from the world cricket and as Ravi Shastri said just focus on what is in treding right now. You have to tap on the opportunity and players of different countries are going for franchise as they are getting those bread & butter from it. I am watching Ashes series from my childhood and that flavour of cricket we are loosing day by day. Don't let it die.
Well i love watching test cricket
Test cricket should continue
The best thing we should do is to make more tournament like asia cup . With more teams in it. Like africa cup , Europe cup , America cup. That too with atleast 7-10 teams in each cup. So that we can have atleast 3-4 team from every continent for world cup. We should also start touring to smaller nation regularly like Netherlands, Ireland Afghanistan and many more. And provide them continuous quality cricket.
Am a great fan of ODI and used to hate T20 , but offlate even I have started to realise the age of bilateral ODI and T20 is over .
Bilateral for T20 should stop & like football players play in these leagues & only come together for world cup matches making it more sustainable & interesting. Same goes for ODI cricket but instead of leagues you can have the odd 3 nation tournaments spread across now & then finally culminating in world cup. Though I am sad to say ODI is running out of time in present age. I just wish NZ and SA manage to win one ODI world cup before the endgame.
Test cricket & T20 is the future now.
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I feel T20 Bilateral series can be scrapped off and only leagues go on.
ODI’s to be played as bilateral series but cut to 40 over a side or 2 innings of 25 over (as SRT had said i guess 💯 years ago ☺️😉)
as ODI is bridge between T20 and tests which MUST exist.
Do we need T20 between international teams? We have so much of it in the leagues. Let it be there.
Only have ODIs and Test cricket. Have some cricketing pitches that support bowlers. ODIs get boring f if they are just playing on conditions like T20s. It’s been a while we have seen a good bowling spell in ODIs, hence it’s dying.
As per scheduling, none of these players have the audacity to criticise how busy IPL is. It drains them and it takes them almost half a year to get out of it. Yes you don’t bite the hand that feeds you but that is what it is.
This talk which is started by sky sports team about future of cricket is being terrific ICC should listen to these talk & act wisely
As someone who played a lot of cricket as a junior... But rarely watches now.... I think they need to create much more focus on which Prizes are important.... There is just way too many competitions and formats.... You need a calendar that has Pinnacle competitions.... Like tennis with the grand slams... Or football with the Champions league..... You need the fans and players understanding what is the pinnacle prizes to win... The legacy prizes that create legends...
The football system is a great example of how franchise and international game can coexist, i think icc should adopt the football model, club games can go as expected, they could even have a continental tournament for clubs like champions league. In case of internationals , 6 match series 2 t 20s 2 odis 2 tests, can be done within a month, 4 series per year, 1 club donestic tournament and 1 club continanetal. 4 months of internationals and 4 months of franchise cricket. 4 months left, do what you want with it.
ODI cricket should be given more importance. As of 2023, 105 countries are associated with ICC, cricket gaining popularity in the Europe as well. With popularity, competition happens. The fact is viewers should understand that " yes, T20 is great entertainment as it's the shortest format, but every player expresses themselves through ODI and test matches. ODI is must. Please save ODI and Test. Tri series and four nation series should happen and happen more.
Other option you should see is that triangular or quad triangular series for the survival of 50 over game instead of bilateral games so that way you can save lot of time and money as well and then earn broadcasting rights through 3 or 4 different countries and distribute equally.
For example india southafrica and srilanka . Then Australia nz and West indies. Then England Bangladesh Pakistan. So imagine if we play like that one tournament like this it's probably much t20 series we can make a whole lot of money to support the financially poor countries.
Having a 25 *4 innins would surely be helpful
Franchise cricket should focus on the t20 game. International series should remain test matches. You can play 50 over cricket for tournaments like a world cup. Save International ODI's and t20 for special occasions. Not the best solution maybe but a bit more in line with other world sports (just with different styles of games played)
the problem is the cricket boards make money with the T20
You would just get players choosing to not play internationally at all and only play t20s.
Totally agree. Way too much cricket being played all over!
that'll kill the smaller boards. the smaller boards make money through bilaterals
@@kushal4956 It will but the people who run the game don't care like us fans do they are there for the $$$$$
Bring back those tri-series, Asia vs Africa matches, let's make ODI great again
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Planning for managing international cricket with leagues.
International cricket
For Test cricket
There should be 3 divisions.(A, B, C)
Each division should have 5 teams.
Division A Team will play against their division team 2 home and 2 away series of 3 matches. (process same for division B and division C as well)
Then after this, division A teams will play 4 series two home and two away with division B and C teams according to standing. (team standing no 1 in division A will get to play series with team standing at 2 and 3 of division B and series with team standing at 4 and 5 of division C. Same process for everyone.
So this way accordingly after completing this whole cycle, division A : 5 th rank standing team will directly be eliminated into division B.And division B: 1st rank standing team will directly qualify into division A. Team of Division A standing at no. 04 will play a match against team of Division B standing at no. 02 and which ever team win this match will qualify as division A team. This one match will be at neutral venue to decide their future. The winner of this one match will be promoted to division A and loser will be relegated to division B. Same procedure between division B and C for promotion and relegation.
(I know it is little bit complicated but I am also seeing commercial angle because there will be some intensity among B and C division teams to be in top of the is table so that they get to play series with big teams which will help them to find sponser.)
According to this. Every team will play total 8 series of 3 matches each. (4 among there division and 2 in both divisions each). This should be done in 3 yrs time
After this top two teams of division A should play a match at neutral venue for world test championship and winner will be crowned as champion.
For odi cricket
There should be divisions.
Every Division should have 13 teams each.
Each team should play 3 match series with every team in their respective division.
So every team will play total 12 series.
6 home and 6 away series.
This can be helpful in direct qualification of ICC wc (50 overs)
After the cycle is completed in 3 year span,
Top 9 teams will directly qualified for the wc and host team will get automatic qualification.
The bottom 3 teams of division A will play against top 3 teams of division B in single round Robin format and top 2 teams will then qualify for wc.
To make ODI cricket interesting they can add a rule like there should be 4 points for one Odi match 3 points will be given to winning team of the match but 1 points will be given to the team that scores more runs in half stage for example suppose team A has scored 140 runs in first inning of first 25 overs then team B has to score more that 140 runs within their first 25 over so that they can get 1 point. This can really make the points table interesting.
For t20.
There should be divisions
Every Division should have 25 teams in it.
Every team will play 24 series of 1matches 12 home and 12 away for span of 3 years.
Top 4 teams from division 2 will get promoted and last 4 teams will be demoted.
After completion of this cycle,the team standing top 20 should directly be qualified and host nation will also get the entry. And teams standing top 3 in division B will get entry into division A for next cycle. And top 2 teams of division B will qualify for wct20. So the wc will be of 24 teams divided into 8 groups and then top teams in each group will play quarter final and then semis and final.
Domestic season of major cricketing nations
India
IPL (Feb to May)
Free(June to Aug),
Vijay Hazare (50 overs) (Sep)
Ranji Trophy (Test) (Oct to Dec)
Syed mustaq Ali (T20) (Jan)
Pakistan
PSL (Feb to April)
Free (May to Aug)
Pakistan cup (50 over) (Sep)
Quide Azam (Test) (Oct to Dec)
National t20 (Jan)
England
County Championship (April to June)
The Hundred (July to August)
Royal one day cup (September)
T20 Vitality blast (October)
Free (November to March)
Australia
Free (Febuarary to August)
Ond day cup (50 overs) (September)
Sheffield shield (Test)(October to November)
Big bash (Dec to Jan)
South africa
Free (Febuary to August)
One day cup (September)
Super sport series (October to November)
Mzansi super league (December to January)
Westindies
Free (January to May)
Carribian premier league (June to August)
Regional super 50 (September)
Four day competetion(October to November)
Franchise cricket league.
There should be no international cricket when south asian leagues take place because of the commercial and fan market basis.
So if we observe the domestic season of every major cricketing country than
South Asian leagues can be played in Feb - May.
Westindies, American, england etc leagues can be played in June - August.
Australian, Newzealand, south africa etc leagues can be played in Dec - Jan.
There should be rule that every player can play only in one league. This will create good opportunity for other people to opt cricket as carrier.
The franchise should follow the man city model where they buy more franchise in different leagues for example say knight riders have franchise in many leagues so they can put young player in Australia,Newzealand .south african league and when the player is mature he can play in any south asian league and at time of player later stage he can be moved in carribian or america or england league. It will help all the boards financially. All leagues will create it's own identity and will flourish accordingly.
South asian region should be made as a powerhouse of cricket where all talented player will come to play just like how europe is for footballers.
There should be uefa champions league type tournment for south asian leagues it will make things more exciting.
For south asian league cricket model.(UEFA type) This tournament should take place in November every year.
The format will include qualifier. The tournment will consist of total 30 matches in one season. 12 teams will participate in qualifier which will have 4 groups of 3 teams Top team from each group will have to play the semifinal and then final of the the qualifier because the winner will compete in main leg of the tournment.
7 teams from IPL (4 directly qualify and rest 3 have to play qualifier), PSL (6 teams ; 3 directly qualify and 3 will play eliminator) and 5 teams BPL (2 will directly qualify and rest 3 have to play the qualifier) 4 teams from LPL (2 will directly qualify and rest 2 have to play qualifier) .1 team will come from league winner of Afghanistan or Nepal respectively. 11 teams will directly qualify for the main leg of the tournament because of their performance in their respective league and another 1 teams will qualify by playing in qualifier.
Winning teams of American continent league, african continent league, European and Australia continent will play in single round robin format and then the table topper will face the champion of south Asian league team in final for franchise cricket world cup.
Though the subject of discussion was really appreciable, I would have even more admired to get people outside the big 3 power houses ; india, england and the aussies
People like pommy m bangwa, ian bishop, michael holding and others need to be taken into. Their opinion is far more important than the big 3
As a fan, I am finally happy to see the world test championship happen, making a big chance and a fascinating competetion
Irrespective of the preferences, please don't allow international t20's in non t20 world cup years. Its killing odi's, if not tests. Go beyond the money only madness
I agree with ravi in the 2 level test championship, with the serious test contenders and participators competing against each other, while zimbabwe, bangladesh, west indies, afghanistan and others competing against each other. This will give test cricket its much needed meaning and significance to them, rather than participating in this 2 year cycle, and irrespective of how they play and perform, them getting kicked out or taken to the exit gate roughly mid way into the cycle
Before expecting every team to make a competetive test team, first get their domestic test structure in order. Otherwise, stop expecting
A lot needs to happen behind the camera icc doesn't even care to think about
At home Bangladesh srilanka West Indies is strong! What’s your point?
@@HinduPAGANcowpissdrinkerRAKESH they are not strong against india australia at home, unlike india and australia themselves. Australia almost defeating everyone for fun, and india literally doing it for fun
I want to say include commentators from every nation in this discussion
@@orkoprobhobhaduri7344 tbh test should be scrapped! And odi should be 40 overs
@@orkoprobhobhaduri7344 but its not financially feasible in long term
@@HinduPAGANcowpissdrinkerRAKESH lets see
As much 'close fought' of a game last night is (WI v IND), there's only one future of ODI bilaterals. They will make way for other two formats. Yes, ODI WC still the pinnacle of success in cricket, and it significantly higher valued than WTC & WT20 both, so it will remain forever.
Ashes is considered pinnacle in cricket. Far above cricket World Cup. Ask the English and Australian cricketers and fans.
@@aranyaismbecause of the history and tradition. Same woth ODI WC and its history
Amazing discussion. On point.
Great Great discussion
Ravi Shastri is brutal.