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Bruce Lee has incredible muscle tone....built for speed and power.
When Bruce does it it’s with “intent” as in he’s going to use it. When other people do it it’s just a show, like a party trick.
Agreed 👍
Well said
Speed it up, slow it down, it doesn't matter it's still the best martial arts film ever.
It is 100% 👍
It most certainly is not
@@shootmckay2270 Fist of Fury?
@@StripeyR Way of Dragon and Eagle's Shadow.
@@possessorofmineAw here's me thinking Big trouble in little China was gonna get an honorable mention
Great video Mr stripey. Lee is still as enigmatic and as watchable as ever. And all these years later enter is still up there towering over all those pound,shop contenders and pretenders. One truly genuine masterpiece that still manages to show others how it should be done. IF ONLY THEY WOULD LISTEN.
Always amazes me how skinny little Bruce is transformed into this shredded monster when he's in action.
Interesting to hear what good old Bey Logans opinion is on this.
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This was really cool. I didn't know they used 2 different camera angles. I think the underground cavern fight is his best fight scene in all of his films.
Another possibility here is that the slower shot camera was running slightly fast which slows it down during playback at 24 frames per second. The faster shot was perhaps running at exactly 24 FPS which appears accurate and faster. They always talk about (since the Green Hornet days) over cranking the cameras to better capture his movements. Hard to know really.
Great Video, I wanted to add. In a Enter the Dragon blu ray, in a audio commentary by Paul Heller. When this scene came up, he said it was his real speed. Thanks for posting this.
I always knew this. Camera 2 was running ever so slower than camera 1, giving it an ever so faster speed when played back.
Been a huge Bruce fan since 73, I taught Nunchacku years back, but these two clips for me were both speeded up, just camera 2 will have been set at a different speed as it won’t have been done in the past editing room, but in camera. The cameras will have been under run which when played back at 24 FPS will give a faster image.
Isn't that what they used to do for a Car Chase!
He was a master showman.
He was indeed 👍
I don't think he was a showman.
I think he was a Master of the Martial Art, and his whole message was that if you can master the orient's eastern thinking of the Martial Art, you can master the psychology of not just your opponents but the psychology of your friends and the public where you know what get's a effect and psychologically stimulates people via actual truth and reality, and you'll also know what parts of truth and reality DON'T get an effect or even have general value. So he wasn't a showman, that indicates he's a "con man", no no he was just a genius of the human condition via Martial Arts. He understood deeply the human condition so much that he knew it PHYSCIALLY, meaning the art of the body's anatomy and it's expression and he knew the human condition mentally, meaning our fears, our hopes, instincts, habits, desires and strengths. And both these deep perception of the Physical + the Mental for being human he had directly, according to him, from Martial Arts. So, sure I guess we can say he was a "showman" but only as a direct result of being a Martial Art master.
"As a writer, as a poet, as a penciller artists, as an actor....alllllllll these I have learned...FROM Martial Arts". - Bruce Lee
Most explosive kick and hand speed ever of Bruce not faked or cranked. To name a few.
1."Way Of The Dragon" The kick to Bob Walls hand, then the fake low then to the head. (Mind boggling)
2.The "Big Boss" Ice factory scene: back/hook kick following that zoom in on Bruce's face, just after he stabs that guy on the ground with the knife. (Unreal!!)
3. "Fist Of Fury"...The fight with Bob Baker, the part of the scene where Bruce shows that insane closing speed kick to the knee, while returning to the starting position without any telegraphing movement. (Unbelievable athleticism! and power!)
4. "Fist Of Fury" part of the scene where Bruce circles around Baker to his right while delivering the side/front kick to his head. He starts of the movement with the hand feint, then the kick to head follows. It's totally seamless and very realistic. This follows the kick to the knee I'm referring to in the same scene. Could be the best fight scene on film (My Favorite). (Mind - blowing kick speed, puts Super Foot Wallce to shame, and he's great.)
Thanks for another great video Mr stripey. Lees presence and influence is still casting it's shadow and makeing it's presence felt.. and enter still remains one truly timeless masterpiece and shows just about everyone how it should really be done as lee pops and cracks and kicks his way into cinema immortality in a way that only he could.
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Enter along with the enigmatic Bruce lee must surely even after all these years stand head and shoulders above all those other pretenders and lol pretenders.
my answer to this is .. Its only a movie , its only a movie , its only a movie :)
they actually had to slow down a lot as well ! Bruce was fast :)
Exactly mate 🤙 as I said to Stripey did he consider that 1 camera was slowed down and the other one was at normal speed which agrees with what Brandon Lee said in his 1992 interview on Australian TV I quote " my dad was ridiculousy fast so much that on Green hornet they had to slow down the cameras or everything would of been a blur" just a thought it's 50/50 either a camera was slowed down or 1 was speeded up
I wish someone would upload to CZcams his rare stuff, i.e. his July 5th 1973 TV interview, the blondie episode, the Dominican republic footage (1970), North Carolina footage (1969)
Yes, I agree. BTW, John Saxon's son said he found footage his father shot on the set of ETD, he says he's going to put in a documentary, we'll see what happens.
@@Rico-ow3ys thought we would have heard about that project by now. I did my video on that breaking news 7 months ago. Still not heard anything. Looks like Steve is focusing on his ‘TWOTD’ book at the moment.
Let's hope he gets it together soon.
@@Rico-ow3ys 🤞
The slight increase in speed was almost certainly done in camera not during the edit. It was pre-planned, in other words.
Was aware of the two camera angle shot of the same scene it was pretty much understandable .. good observation on the speed up bit.. I think it was a conscious decision during editing to show the speed progression from level A to B. Quite likely they didn’t have the time to reshoot this sequence again and to be honest it never looked bad on screen compared to silly speed up action scenes on other Kung Fu movies made in Hong Kong or Hollywood /rest of the world. The editing of ETD was pretty good and kudos to Warner Brothers for presenting us a timeless classic that has stood the test of time and will continue to do so till the end of time. Of course without Lee, the movie would have been pointless. Rewatched ETD last night on Blu-ray and it’s incredible. ❤
Let me educate you about filmmaking. The Chucks were made out of polyester and very very delicate and they kept falling apart so they had to film it slow. That’s why his eyes kept blinking and it is sped up. Jim Kelly took a pair home and they fell apart in a couple of days .
Bruce Lee LIVES!!!!!!!!!
It's so odd for someone to notice something like that lol.
But in all honesty, that's why rehearsals are sharply practiced. When you compare the two different angles, you Stripey had observed that every little facial expression or slight facial tick, and then every movement of the nunchuck maneuver and handling are both the "same". But Stripey THAT can easily be from SHARP repetitive rehearsal. If you practice a thing over and over and over and over again and again, and you have the dedication to detail that Lee has for a scene and moreover the vision that he wants to get across deeply on his human expression from every snarl to every lip curl...multiple angles of different takes WILL look identical.
At the least: it's not impossible.
For example, in Way of the Dragon after Bruce gets up from being defeated in the colosseum and he does that whole slo mo dance, feeling + gauging Chuck out, at the very end of the slo mo dance you see him do that iconic little Bruce Lee move. He does like a shake or twist.
Now to you and me that seems so original and unique that it can't be repeated...but if he's exacting and meticulous as we know him to be you might not be able to tell the difference between 5-10 takes of that little move, the shake/twist thing. I'm just sayin that needs to be taken into account, is all I'm sayin.
Now let's say I'm right, he can just duplicate the whole scene to a "T", then that would mean he had more energy in the other take where he was much faster, probably because it was the earlier take, where you're fresh and full in the tank. And that the slower take was actually afterwards where he's lost some energy.
So that's the reality that should be considered as well, but Stripey YOU could also be right here and someone indeed saw it was better to speed up the other footage, but the OTHER side of the coin here my friend is that the first angle was actually SLOWED down, because the frenzy of speed is too fast for viewers to appreciate and grasp what was happening (as you said Nunchucks was completely new to the world, people would already be mesmerized by the new thing let alone too high of a speed).
So one OTHER possibility we should consider is that both angles had the super high speed that is Lee's own human power, but to open up the introduction of this foreign weird nunchuck item, perhaps it needed to be slowed down enough in the initial seconds for viewers to grasp the scene.
And as we all know, slowing down Lee's footage is not a new thing for The Dragon. His footage frequently had to be slowed down for the camera frames to show it. Anyways, that's my rant here, sorry to talk your ear off, but all in all another great video Stripey. Hope you enjoyed that Bruce Lee convention you went to.
Fair play Stripey, some work went into this video. Great observations.All these years watching ETD, it was edited so well , never really noticed, although I always thought the 2nd half looked quicker, but put it down to Bruce just got faster as it went on...No one will ever look as aesthetically good as Bruce with the Nunchuks. Thanks Stripey...
Cool breakdown. I never noticed this stuff! I cant get enough the bruce lee content
I would guess the 2nd footage was sped up to help disguise the fact that it is reused footage. I have done the exact thing in editing.
It really doesn't matter to me that the Editors/ Producers, Director decided to enhance the scene or scenes a little bit because we all know Bruce Lee was one of the fastest most Powerful Martial Arts athletes ever !!! His Reflexes and fast twitch muscle fibers were extraordinary !!! Plus he Trained more Diligently and more dedicated than anyone else back then. So it really doesn't matter. All Motion pictures are enhanced, especially today with CGI and now AI. Interesting information if accurate. Cheers
Agreed totally!
ITS NOT SPED UP STOP SPREADING LIES
@@kyleday5026 Who's spreading lies ? It wasn't anything Posted by myself personally. I don't Post Videos, it doesn't interest me at all . While the Video posted by the CZcams channel was interesting, I don't agree because everyone who worked on ETD from the producers to the Film Crew said the same thing the Network Television series said about Bruce Lee's Speed in The Green Hornet TV series 1966 .they had to ask him to slow down his movements and they had to slow down the filming by increasing the frames per second. People today in their Digital world don't know anything about the Technology used back in the 1960's and the 1970"s . So your asking the wrong person to "stop spreading lies" .
@@paulroberts1961 because u was saying it like they speeded up bruces movements
@@kyleday5026 learn how to read . I didn't say anything that would indicate that I believed the theory !!! I said it wouldn't matter to me if they decided to enhance the scenes. The word "if" means whether they did or didn't. You sound like your looking for attention or a childish argument. I won't respond to you again. Bruce Lee didn't need his movements or scenes Speeded up , he was always Super fast and extremely agile .his reflexes were extraordinary and he was very Powerful. Bruce Lee was the Greatest Martial Artists of the Twentieth Century !!!
Hi Stripey, they used the Arriflex 35 IIC camera on Enter, My thoery is one camera was shooting at 24fps indestery standard and the other camera for what ever reason was under cranked. Meaning it was filming at a lower speed maybe 18fps. I think Bruce would have known this when he watched it in post. He knew a lot about cameras and cinematography and for all these years I have never noticed. Bruce probably said "well every little bit helps. Great episode.
I doubt it was 18 FPS more 22. Donnie Yen sometimes shots at 18 and it looks ridiculous. Check out his ‘Fist Of Fury’ tv show. It’s like watching the keystone cops 🤣
Thanks for this perspective and all the hard work, Stripey. Bruce was the innovator and is still the master and the benchmark that can only be seen in the distance with a telescope. I absolutely don't go in for all that twiddly, spinny, cheerleader nunchaku stuff you see these days. It's apples and oranges, and they'd never even have the exposure if it wasn't for what Bruce did more than 50 years ago.
As I told you before Stripey, I always knew from years of watching this it was the same scene from different angles, just like many of the shots in the Lee Vs Ohara fight, where almost all the kicks and punches were repeated from different angles. I was shocked when I put these side by side to find out they were not the same speed.
I think the way of the dragon fight with Bob wall was speeded up a bit watch bobs head movements when he’s hit they’re too fast like the old keystone cops movies
.dont know if that had anything to do with Bruce.Bruce s fights didn’t need speeded up he’s a blur in the green hornet series.
Bloody hell , I never noticed that it was the same scene , spliced . Every day's a school day . Cheers Stripey
My pleasure, bud. Cheers 👍
😮Stripey that's exactly what I'm talking about, i never thought of that, an enter the dragon is to me, The Greatest martial arts movie ever made, and inspired me to take up taekondo and kenpo, bruce could have used those nunchucku all night, and that scene is my favourite of the whole movie, and back in the 80s i had fist of fury uncut and enter the dragon, out of the UK, thank you so much for sharing Darren i appreciate that so much, we'd all love to know everything about our hero, THE LITTLE DRAGON THE LEGENDARY BRUCE LEE, take care mate 💯✌️🇮🇪✌️🤜🤛👊🙏
You are spot on. But we all love Bruce.
Wouldn't have believed it if you hadn't have put the two screens beside each other...
Food for thought mate
And the shadow of the light and stand can be seen on screen right next to the guard!
When Bruce climbs down the knotted rope in two separate scenes it's the same descent from two different camera angles!
News flash! Enter the Dragon is not a documentary. It was never designed to be. It's a film edited and manipulated to entertain. All films utilize frame rate manipulation and editing tricks to create entertainment.
Great research Stripey.
Amazing what modern technogy can uncover.
Amazing video Stripey! I think Vic19644 has the answer to the speed issue. I certainly don't think they were sped up in the editing room. And the two identical camera angles -wow! Well observed Stripey. There is an incredible technique he does that is very hard to see. Check how Bruce is holding the chuck on the left side and has reversed his grip ( thumb up instead of thumb down) on the chuck. He still manages to flip the chuck over his left shoulder! Very hard to do.
Yo Mr Rambles!! Another great vid & no, never even thought of this? been practicing nunchaku 45+ years myself, always been obsessed with all that is Bruce Lee, but sadly never noticed this? well done for spotting it. It in no way takes anything away from the great man himself, but simply highlights the tweakery involved in many of our best loved films. An important thing to note though, is Bruce died at 32, just imagine how much more gifted he would have become wielding nunchaku, if he'd have had the opportunity to live till old age? Imagine that? Fab content as ever, keep em coming 🙏
At that time, people were not doing the tricks that you see now, what Bruce is doing and how he's handling the chucks was actually pretty standard, but was good technique, and some of it is actually more innovative than people realize, like his use of flipping and switching into the reverse hold and the shoulders and hips to bounce the chucks off. I know he also practiced striking and hitting things with the chucks, using them as an actual weapon, and it shows in his handling of them when he strikes. Many people today practice the hand rolls and flipping, but lack the coordination and feel to actually strike and retrieve again correctly.
Thanks Stripey great information. For me the cavern fight is Bruce Lee's best fight scene.
I'm mind-blown. Thank you for such interesting content, Mr. Stripey! 🙏
Hi Stripey. Same age as you, first saw ETD on a bootleg VHS when I was around 12. Thought I knew ETD like the back of my hand. Obviously not, as I never knew that about that famous scene. Great piece, well put together, agree your conclusions 100%. 👍
nice comparison.You'll find examples of the two-camera work throughout the fight scenes. e.g when Lee does a spinning hook kick on O' Hara, the shot is repeated in close up with slightly diff angle. Also during final battle when Roper backfists a guy. Same sequence used a few moments later, closeup & from slightly different angle. Never knew about the speeding up though. Nice find. Maybe done during actual filming though rather than post?
I studied the scene mate so here we go...They actually had to slow down camera 1 and then for camera 2 that was Bruce's real speed!!! That might be a hard maybe, But you never know mate.👍💯
Excellent video again Stripey. A couple of points to add for you. They only had two cameras for filming Enter the Dragon. Gil Hubbs mentioned this in some interviews. While editing, many shots were repeated from the 2nd angle to pad out the action. Examples of this are the opening moves in the fight between Williams and Parsons. Bruce doing a same spin kick on O'hara and Ropers backfist in the big battle. One possible answer for the different speeds is the 2nd camera was cranked lower than 24 frames per second. Also Bruce Thomas noted that the nunchuks twirling in Fist of Fury was sped up slightly because Bruce appears to be blinking quickly. Whatever the answer, Bruce was simply brilliant.👍
Hi stripey
Never noticed that before
It's amazing what things you can pick up these days from old classic films.
Just a thought wonder what would have happened if James ferman had been the film editor on enter the dragon
Cheers mate
Cameras on the day could have been recording at different speeds say standard 24 FPS and possibly 20 FPS. Doing it in post, pre digital age would have ment dropping frames and it wouldn't look smooth. It may have been played around on later releases digitally. But always felt it looked slightly speed up even though I'm a huge fan of Lee.
Either way it's still a remarkable action sequence.
Ive always had suspicion or two that some of Bruces scenes may have involved some sped up footage. Again this is film making afterall so it wouldnt bother me. One that comes to mind is in Big Boss at the Ice factory when Bruce first starts fighting. He tells everyone to stop then challenges them thugs to fight him, at which point one walks in with a knife. Within a split second Bruce has kicked the knife out his hand then nailed him with another kick so fast and smooth that it looks almost inhuman to me 😂
AWESOME!
Thank you Pal.
Thanks bud 👍
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Hi Stripey .Another thought sprang to mind. James Coburn mentioned in a KFM interview that Bruce would have the camera speed over cranked and then played back at normal speed in projection. Because if he didnt, and I qoute Mr Coburn, "it would look sorta Mickey Mouse" Bruce was simply to fast for normal camera speed.
Those with a sharp eye can see that there is speed editing in this part of the scene.
There is no need to investigate, you see it clearly! There are scenes that Bruce had to give up in his movies, for example he jumps over the fence in the Big Boss movie and all kinds of unnecessary scenes that you see in low-budget movies.
Wow! That's mindblowing Stripey! 🤯 I never noticed that before. I wonder who's idea that was 🤔 Is it possible that the first part was slowed down and the second part was kept at original speed?
How about the scene when Bruce hops up onto a tree branch backwards. Looks like he jumped down & it was played in reverse.
Bloody Hell Stripey! Never noticed till you showed this! It's probably something called undercranking. Which has been used in lots of movies, especially car chases to make them look faster.
There is an "art" of how to control human being supranaturally ...
I don’t know HOW I didn’t know this!
Great movie reveal, now have a cuppa tea and a biscuit and don't mind the haters 🍀💚🇮🇪👌
Hi Stripey, another great video ☺️
Incredible you noticed this I didn't and do you know what, this just shows even more how amazing Bruce was with his Nunchaku!
Nobody but nobody is as cool as Bruce Lee ☺️✌️👍
I learned something new today thanks Stripey !
I imagine someone did a slight timing change and sped up the clip from the forward angle to help it feel like it wasn't the exact same clip from a different angle. It does look sped up but doesn't change the charisma or talent of Bruce Lee in my opinion.
Hello Stripey ! Now as a fellow Bruce Lee lover I admire the respect show his legacy unlike some geezers around with beards but just a thought for you there is a flip side to that coin ,did you stop to think that maby one of the cameras were allowed down and the other one was normal speed which would agree with what Brandon said in the 1992 interview in Australia that his Dad was so fast they had to slow the cameras down or otherwise it would be a blur I know if beardy said the word s we call out BS. but without being a total fan boy and considering they were Brandon's words I realisticly believe it's 50/50 it could be 1camera was slowed down or speeded up but 1 thing I'm sure we can both agree on is nobody is as fast and just simply natural looking with them than Bruce it's almost as he was born with them attached to him 💯👍 ps class act love your channel mate
Told you so. 😉
Indeed you did, pal. You we're bang on 👍
@@StripeyR I always knew for years these two scenes were the same as I saw they did the same thing in the Ohara fight with multiple cameras for that fight too. Wanted to do a side by side situation with the Nunchuck scene and was shocked when I saw they did not match. It was at that point I decided not to dig any further. However, if you look at the final fight as well, Bruce can be seek kicking the Ref that gave him crap about not wearing a uniform twice. Same shot, different angles. 🤣🤣
I noticed this donkeys years that it was same scene used it's very noticeable mate I never the noticed that the 2nd was sped up a bit .another cool video as usual stripey.all the best Pete
Cheers, bud. I've only recently learned this stuff. Thought it'd be an interesting topic. Thanks again, mate 👍
Stripey have you seen the joey Chen videos about Bruce Lee and his death watch this a great watch there’s more insight
Thanks Stripey, Great vid, love the information and details you garner from Bruce's movies.
Haters are gonna hate mate, I mean its just a movie at the end of the day, & they want to make it as good as possible for the audience. Camera trickery, is just par for the course, its not like there actually was a tournament on an island by a mysterious warlord in 1973, which was foiled by a super-spy.
Hahaha
Fitting to see you used two camera angles for this video Stripey
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interesting, well spot on Stripey.
I always thought that there was only one camera, as seen in the archives and making of ETD due to the low budget.
it might also be the technical speed of the angle side camera...or just an artistic editing choice.
OR maybe the face camera was slowed down 😬.
But the truth is that Bruce can do exactly the same two Nunchuk routines in one, with different speed...because he's simply the best ! 😌
P.S.. Just reading down through the comments on camera angles, in the big courtyard fight near the end, they use the same bit of film twice , but from different angles of Bruce taking down the guards! one is a tighter shot, the other pulled back a bit! ..but still magic!
I have read through all the comment's here, and again no one has mentioned this. The very first DVD's released, had a little box in the left hand bottom corner on the back. In the box was the Image of a Movie camera on a stand. Over the top of this, Is a Number. These are the camera angles that you could change to In real time, as You watched the movie. Or You could watch the entire Movie with one angel only. This got scrapped after a year or so. So not many know about It now. It was why Phillips/Sony got the money to develop and master DVD's In the first place. As It was the Porn Industry that loved this new Image changing In real time. So put all the money Into It. Nice reveal Stripey. I knew about the two Cameras thing Years ago. They even showed the entire Movie from one Camera angle In the cinemas, and no one noticed Genius. Keep Looking, They are out there.
Stripey,
We'd like your opinion on the the Bob Wall fight in the WOTD in the new territories scene.
The scene where Bruce does a fient front kick to Bob's hand and then hook kicks him to the head.
Do you think it's slightly speeded?
As for the Enter scene, i picked those chucks up at the Norman Borine World Of Bruce Lee Museum visit in Birmingham in 92 or 93.
I couldn't believe how light they was.
A few ounces.
Now, considering the arm power Lee had, moving them at full speed like he was known for, would have made them look super fast due the power when he was moving them.
As regards the Suzuki nunchaku fight, part of it definitely looks jumpy.
As regards Bruce's speed, one has to only look at the Charlie Chan screen test and that was filmed at normal speed and his flowing movement speed is totally out of this planet.
Also, look at the way of the intercepting fist episode from Longstreet.
That double kick he demonstrates to Fransiscus looks like his legs were made of rubber.
Mind boggling.
It's a question worth putting to Andy Staton at this years event in Leeds.
He knows everything, or nearly everything on Bruce.
Very knowledgeable man.
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Hey stripey hope you are well pal, definitely not a bruce 6hater or faker, i still have some of the fabulous pics of Bruce Lee, from befriending you via Facebook, bruce lee Movie's, so no need to explain yourself, I'm an avid bruce lee fan like yourself, and we're intitled to our options, support always stripey, keep well mate 💯🇮🇪✌️🇮🇪🤜🤛👊🙏
i think it was slowed down so it can be seen clearly , camera just got smoked out
Hi stripey. Great video 👍 I really enjoy your videos it make my day. Thanks you my friend and enjoy your day.
Y’know Stripey, slightly sped up a couple seconds or so, it doesn’t matter to me because this is the real Bruce Lee, doing what he choreographed. Robert Clouse most likely sped it a bit. It takes nothing away from what for me is my favorite fight scene of all time. The way the nunchaku is used in the context of the entire scene is brilliant, even what Bruce does with them once his is trapped after the fight. Yes there are a lot of fast flashy routines martial artists perform in demonstrations and on screen with the nunchaku. Bruce in Dragon, Fist of Fury, Way of the Dragon, the existing Game of Death footage, made it an art with style and intensity, even a touch of humor I don’t think anyone has come close to since
Good spot Stripey! The second half is clearly cranked up. The next question is: did / would Bruce approve? My thoughts are he wouldn’t: in the only movie in which Bruce had complete control, nothing’s speeded up. True, the darts are a bit hokey, but I think that Bruce used these as a necessary mechanism to get rid of the guns…
Unless I missed it, would you please let us know, where the second camera footage came from? I have never seen nor heard about until now. Thank you. Also, we should all agree on our terminology. When something appears "sped-up" on screen, it is "Under-cranked" shooting say 20-22 FPS (normal speed is 24 FPS) when action appears in slow motion it is "over-cranked" an increase in FPS typically 48 FPS or faster. Manipulated "speed" onscreen, is never actually "sped-up." The camera is really, "slowed down" during the actual filming. Therefore it is filmed with the pre-mediated intent of the particular sequence appearing FAST. Multiple uses of "Under-cranking" are present in every single Lee film. All of them.
Well one of the producers of ETD Paul Heller, said this scene was filmed in real time, nothing spead up.
I can’t tell
Interesting. Question, though: how would they have "sped it up"? Many of us know about the practice of "undercranking" the camera in Hong Kong action movies, filming at 21 or 22 frames per second rather than the standard 24 frames per second so that when the film is played back at 24 frames per second the action looks a bit faster ... but if they did that in this case & we're able to compare the same action from the two angles would we be able to see, upon frame by frame examination, where a few frames were missing from the "sped up" bit? I'm not saying Bruce was above undercranking/wouldn't resort to "speeding up" (I kind of think he did it in The Game Of Death nunchaku sequence, at least), I'm just wondering by what method (wouldn't it have to be either through undercranking or removing frames in the editing process?) it would have been done here. Anyway, interesting observation, Stripey ... up until now I thought I had examined every frame of Enter The Dragon closely! :)
I always thought the second part looked speeded up. I know many people are suggesting the first part is slowed down, but it looks totally natural to me.
Dam, that's some great observation there! 😜👌
Is it possible that the speed has something to do with like NTSC and that is where some scenes look speeded up? ie transfered to PAL etc.
We have all heard that Bruce was filmed he was to fast for the camera to pick him up so they slowed it down so maybe they speeded it up afterwards?
I have no idea Stripey 😂 I have seen some of his films and some scenes do look speeded up and sometimes not.
Hi Stripey it's always great, to have you covering another Bruce Lee subject, I see you have on A SuperDry All-stars T-shirt on I have one too but it's different. Keep on representing The Little Dragon 🐉🐲
Much appreciated dude.
Thanks, pal. The shirt is a Ringspun All-stars. I've had it for years (quite expensive now on eBay) 😉
Cheers bud 👍
@@StripeyR it's all good Stripey, stay blessed Dude.🐲🐉
Who cares, its a great scene.
Good work stripey. I knew it was two takes of the same routine but thought the second angle looked faster because it was facing Bruce.
Watch the Suzuki fight in FOF, a part of that looks sped up to me. When Bruce and his opponent are facing each other, they then attack each other with Bruce spinning the chucks in circles before tucking it under his arm. Suzuki seems very quick and slightly jerky in his movements.
Hi Stripey! Great critical analysis of that peace of film! Having watched E.T.D so many times over the last 40 odd years ..Betamax Video anyone!!! I have no doubt some shots were made to look better for that time ..who knew we would be able to analyse frame by frame in years to come? maybe in years to come with A.I we will be able to walkaround the "Tennis Court" in the height of the battle? ..I just hope I'm still kicking, and able to experience it ! lol As to the speed up ..I always remember reading that it had to be slowed down?.. maybe Cam-1 was running a bit slow?? .but at the end of the day, I'm so glad we can do this and have a "Yarn" about it ..Great Video to get the thinking caps on! ..Shane.
Hey stripey, you could do a video of which dvd release is the best
Well blow me down! Make sense stripey, but I have never given it a thought just accepted it for what it was, impressive 😁
Thanks bud 👍
Hi Stripey
It’s possible the first part runs slightly slow I suppose
However the camera does cut to a different angle halfway through
Could it be two different takes of the same routine spliced together.They probably did several takes of the routine before Bruce was happy.Happiest with the first part we see and happiest with the second part but another take of the same routine which Bruce did slightly faster
.Or even in the editing they cut out a few frames so that the timing is slightly ahead? Don’t think our brains would register 3 frames or so being removed in one set of 24 frames
I don’t know..still brilliant though 🙂
Great video, loved it.
I noticed this the third or fourth time I saw the scene
Good stuff very interesting thank you .
I never knew that.
I didn't until recently, mate. Cheers 👍
Nice work again Stripey...the later part did look a bit fast. But we are talking about Bruce here. In the words of Raymond Chow when he initally signed up Bruce. " how could i doubt this man!"
Btw....i hope your still practising this scene... we are all looking forward to it 😎
So I have a theory, and as a filmmaker may be able to shed some light on this. As someone has rightly mentioned, when working on Western productions Bruce was subjected to having sequences shot at a higher frame rate so they could slow it down. The way this two shot setup is filmed, you have the MASTER SHOT (MS) which is the wide shot off to the side, and the MEDIUM CLOSE UP (MCU) direct to camera. My instinct as a director is that the MCU would have literally just been for the nunchaku swing. There is an MCU insert of him deflecting and taking the nunchaku with the kali sticks, but this is a different shot as it's also angled to the side.
Now the theory comes in with the Master Shot. This is exactly the same shot that carries over from the last two guards he takes out with the kali sticks -- including the INSANELY fast kali attack with multiple blows. Now somewhere in this shot, there may have been a moment that got lost to Bruce's speed resulting in them cranking frame rate to on the camera to 36fps to slow the MS down to 24fps in post production if they needed to. I've tested this on Final Cut Pro and although it's not COMPLETELY accurate due to fps settings, the MS is between 8%-10% slower than the MCU.
I then sped up the MS by 10% and what you've got is an almost IDENTICAL level of speed to Bruce's nunchaku work on GAME OF DEATH.
I don't think the ENTIRE MS is slowed down, but it feels like the nunchaku swing definitely is, rather than the MCU being sped up.
Thanks for sharing this, mate. Interesting theory.
I'll read your thoughts on my "Saturday Comments" video.
Cheers, pal. I appreciate your input 👍
Just to add, if they did JUST slow down the Master Shot of the nunchaku swing, my only thinking as to the reasoning for this is that they wanted the moment to last longer. And considering the sequence was relatively short, the only way they could make it look like one long sequence was to slow down the master and seamlessly hide it in the edits back and forth to the MCU. It would have been a lot more noticeable to slow down the MCU as it's directly to camera. It's also the MCU that REALLY demonstrates Bruce's speed in this scene.
@@StripeyR Always, mate. Hope all is well.
The more I think about it, my reply above is probably your answer, and as shady as studios can be, I wouldn't be surprised if they made this tweak AFTER Bruce passed so that he couldn't argue against it.
@@UKRetroReels I'm good, bud, cheers. I hope all is well with you 👌
So.... do you think there might be other scenes in the movie that were sped up..???
What I would say is who cares if it has been speed up slightly, but what I would point out in the stills from this scene as with all stills forms Bruces movies everything is just a blur so there's no doubt the guy was lighting fast no mater what, as always stripey great post fantastic job keep up the great work 😊
Hello Stripey
No matter what they did in the editing room....Bruce 's way of using the nunchakus is exceptional 👌 and way more impressive than those guys using them like cheerleaders!
Thanks anyway for your demo.
Cheers mate 🍻
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It's news to me. But, can you even speed up film during editing? You have to double-expose the footage, ie. Speed up the reel and film the sped up film causing loss of quality... correct me if I'm wrong. So the decision would have been made whilst filming; to "overcrank" the camera.
Wow. New one to me! But I'm not the sharpest wooden spoon in the drawer anymore. Anyway, help your friend out with something. Is there anything to the camera skipping a frame, in GOD, when closing the distance to Kareem? I'd thought that it was a poor edit within that cinematic monstrosity. After learning this, now I'n not sure what I saw.